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Re: University of Arizona Using Secret Cameras

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From: James
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:18
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"Frog" <FrogRemailer@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> University of Ar-izona is using secret close circuit cameras in the
> libraries to spy on patrons. A recent "Pol-ice Beat" report in the Daily
> Wildcat stated that tapes were surrendered to UA Police when a patron's
> actions became suspicious.

And why did the install the cameras? Was because of the theft of books?
That's why department stores have them. And I expect that the average UA
student is much more likely to steal something than the average deparment
store client. My friend's daughter just had her purse stolen from the UA
library, and now she is chasing down bad checks.

>
> University of Ari-z-ona has now also changed it's browsers such that
> patrons cannot clear memory cache any longer. Computers at the Medical
> Library have a custom browser that has a message stating that staff have
> the right to look over you shoulder at your surfing habits.

Then don't use them for anything that isn't related to medicine. Do imagine
that they were put there for you to surf porno pages, download music files
or something the like?
>
> The arrogance of this University is really hard to deal with at times. Now
> we are being subjected to undercover surveillance.

That's the problem you have when you hang out with riffraff.

The Wildcat never
> really reports about things like this; maybe they have cameras in their
> offices as well? This is a college that routinely bans people from campus
> under unconstitutional 'criminal trespass' laws where there is clearly no
> criminal intent, such as someone falling asleep in the library.
>
> They just finished a multi-million dollar building expansion, yet
> professors are leaving due to poor pay scales and the admins keep trying
> to hire more administrators at 100K+ a pop. Meanwhile they raise tuition
> such that many of the lower financial class students can no longer afford
> to go to school.

Az has one of the lowest tuition rates in the country. Morover, any AZ
highschool graduate with high grades can go there tuition-free. Seems like a
good deal to me. I suspect you weren't made aware of the program, however.

That's ok, they will just keep upping the enrollment of
> foreigners, so they can get that out of state tuition. It's beginning to
> look like a foreign country on campus. Forget about any obligation to
> Arizona kids for whom the University was originally intended. Don't
> register for the draft guys, cuz your gov. values you like Tyson's Food
> values the average chicken.

As I said, the state will send you tuition-free if you qualify. And if you
didn't, probably you're just wasting the taxpayer's money anyway. Drop out,
avoid the surveillance, and do all of us a favor.
>
> Oh yeah, they pay the basketball coach close to a mil a year; ditto the
> football coach. Then they let rich old fa-rts park their RVs on the grassy
> knoll during football games for their stupid tailgate parties. It's really
> quite clear who comes last here--the average Ariz-ona student.

The basketball coach brings in money, as does the football coach. One
solution (which I would support) would be to put a fence around the football
and basketball aarenas (and that grassy knoll) and separate them from the
University. Then you'd have no complaint. All of the other sports, and
athletic diversity, would go down the drain. But, who cares about women's
volleyball anyway.
>
> Thank goodness a few, lead by an attorney (he's a lying sleazeball, but
> that's another story) are suing the UA for the latest round of tuition
> hikes. Seems it may be unconstitutional. If the admins, including the
> sycophant Likens, who is continually kissing the rear ends of legislators,
> ever succeed in their latest spin of trying to raise the standards of
> students, they will soon find their collective asses on the curb once
> they've exchanged the average diploma seeking cow for a student who
> actually thinks and is aware of what's happening around them.

Are they only going to let in those qualified students? It would certainly
save a lot of money.Cut the size by 2/3rds and you could have free tuition
for all.  But what is your alternative? Jr. Cow college?

James
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