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Article #3015Re: Salaries of Scientists
From: Bob LeChevalier
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:46
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:46
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rrcolby@go.com wrote: >drocillo wrote: >> My late uncle, an MD surgeon (who was head of a large hospital), told >> me once: To become a good scientist, the aspirant has to resemble an >> isosceles triangle with its base side up. To become a doctor, one has >> to resemble an isosceles triangle with its base side down. In other >> words, it is not smartness which is required from the doctor wanna-be >> to succeed, it is the persistence of approach and diligence in learning >> the art. > >I've transitioned from engineering to medicine so I concur with your >insights. Much of the world, however, doesn't know this so they think >that a surgeon, by virtue of an MD degree plus a long residency and a >subsequent high salary equals a person of greater intelligence than a >scientist or engineer with equivalent levels of education and >experience. In one sense they have exhibited greater intelligence because they used their ability to enter a field where they can MAKE MONEY FASTER. Someone who is allegedly intelligent but does not abide by the standard of the popular culture which measures everything in dollar signs by using their intelligence to MAKE MONEY FAST thereby displays their lack of extreme intelligence. >I believe it also has to do with the MBA factor where MBAs have reduced >the corporate power of engineers to that of lackeys than co-creators of >intrinsic value. And when a profession is looked upon as corporate >serfs, it's hard to hold much respect for its adherents in the >mainstream mindset. Most of them ARE corporate serfs. Look at what has happened to the concept of a 40-hour work week for engineering "professionals" under the thumb of the corporate demons. The banner of "professionalism" and the nuances of labor law are used to manipulate them into extended hours of unpaid labor which are expected of them, with failure to participate turning into job and income loss, if not career destruction. If a doctor works extended hours to serve his patients, he generally bills them for that added time. So does a lawyer. Salespeople sell more, thereby earning higher commissions. Scientists and engineers get ... to keep their jobs. So who is the most intelligent? lojbab
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