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Jon Wagner (jcwagner@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: In article <3m3jqn$j84@mordred.gatech.edu>, ataman@prism.gatech.edu (Osman
: Ataman) wrote:

: > Dave Klingler (klingler@mack.rt66.com) wrote:
: > : In article <aschwartz-0604950506280001@ppp-81-17.bu.edu>,
: > : Adam Schwartz <aschwartz@college.antioch.edu> wrote:
: > : >9Mos old PowerMacintosh 7100/66
: > : >
: > : >8/250/CD in perfect shape, in original box, with all original stuff 
: > : >Asking $2100 And shipping obo.
: > : >
: > : >I will leave the tons of native software on the HD, including photoshop
: > : >3.0, Pagemaker 5.0, Disktools and more...what you do with that software is
: > : >your deal!
: > 
: > : Pretty unethical, Adam.  Should we trust your other business practices?
: > : >
: > : >can swap the 250Mb HD for a new Q730s for $200
: > : >
: > : What's unethical is advertising that you will leave your "tons of native 
: > : software" on the hard drive.  Of course it's probably pirated software
: > : anyway; the kind of person that will sell a computer that way will usually 
: > : not pay for the software in the first place.
: > 
: > : I'm a software developer, and I cringe when I see someone blatantly 
: > : advertising that he will be glad to pirate software for anyone that will 
: > : buy his computer.
: > 
: > : Software piracy is a fact of life, but when it reaches the extent to which
: > : you are going, it's gone beyond petty theft to the point of just plain
: greedy
: > : criminality.  Advertising stolen goods on the net is easily as bad as any 
: > : other breach of netiquette.
: > 
: > : Do we really want the misc.forsale groups to become a "buyer beware" 
: > : proposition?  We're careful about letting people who are known internet 
: > : thieves advertise without at least some follow-up warnings.  We need to 
: > : classify ads like this in the same category. 
: > : >
: > : >Let me know!
: > : >
: > : >Adam Schwartz
: > : >aschwartz@college.antioch.edu
: > 
: > 
: > Dave: This is pretty "bull" and oportunistic message. Your point is
: > neither clear nor relevant. If you want to blame someone, go blame
: > computer stores who sell computers with tons of "installed software"
: > every day..But if you're trying to cover your incompetence, that's another
: > story..
: > 
: > -------------------------------------------------------
: > O. Ataman
: > 
: > Doctoral Program
: > College of Architecture,
: > Georgia Institute of Technology
: > Atlanta, GA 30332
: > (404) 894-1686
: > (404) 894-1629 (Fax)

: What?? Dave's argument was fine.  Adam is clearly breaking the law if he
: does what he says he will.  If I knowingly provide someone with the means
: to committ a crime, that is illegal.  You think computer stores put
: whatever they want on hard drives of computers being sold?  No, they pick
: popular programs which will encourage users to buy those computers and
: then PAY the software companies for those programs.  I don't generally
: respond to these petty arguments, but I get pissed when someone
: illogically flames someone for no reason.

: -- 
: Jon

What pisses me off is when people keep up a thread for no apparent reason.
I have this to say.  Pirating is bad, ok?  If you have a problem with
someone, please don't keep following up, take it to email.

Reese