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jcwagner@uiuc.edu  writes:
> In article <3m3jqn$j84@mordred.gatech.edu>, ataman@prism.gatech.edu (Osman
> Ataman) wrote:
> 
> > Dave Klingler (klingler@mack.rt66.com) wrote:
> > : In article <aschwartz-0604950506280001@ppp-81-17.bu.edu>,
> > : Adam Schwartz <aschwartz@college.antioch.edu> wrote:
> > : >9Mos old PowerMacintosh 7100/66
> > : >
> > : >8/250/CD in perfect shape, in original box, with all original stuff 
> > : >Asking $2100 And shipping obo.
> > : >
> > : >I will leave the tons of native software on the HD, including photoshop
> > : >3.0, Pagemaker 5.0, Disktools and more...what you do with that software is
> > : >your deal!
> > 
> > : Pretty unethical, Adam.  Should we trust your other business practices?
> > : >
> > : >can swap the 250Mb HD for a new Q730s for $200
> > : >
> > : What's unethical is advertising that you will leave your "tons of native 
> > : software" on the hard drive.  Of course it's probably pirated software
> > : anyway; the kind of person that will sell a computer that way will usually 
> > : not pay for the software in the first place.
> > 
> > : I'm a software developer, and I cringe when I see someone blatantly 
> > : advertising that he will be glad to pirate software for anyone that will 
> > : buy his computer.
> > 
> > : Software piracy is a fact of life, but when it reaches the extent to which
> > : you are going, it's gone beyond petty theft to the point of just plain
> greedy
> > : criminality.  Advertising stolen goods on the net is easily as bad as any 
> > : other breach of netiquette.
> > 
> > : Do we really want the misc.forsale groups to become a "buyer beware" 
> > : proposition?  We're careful about letting people who are known internet 
> > : thieves advertise without at least some follow-up warnings.  We need to 
> > : classify ads like this in the same category. 
> > : >
> > : >Let me know!
> > : >
> > : >Adam Schwartz
> > : >aschwartz@college.antioch.edu
> > 
> > 
> > Dave: This is pretty "bull" and oportunistic message. Your point is
> > neither clear nor relevant. If you want to blame someone, go blame
> > computer stores who sell computers with tons of "installed software"
> > every day..But if you're trying to cover your incompetence, that's another
> > story..
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > O. Ataman
> > 
> > Doctoral Program
> > College of Architecture,
> > Georgia Institute of Technology
> > Atlanta, GA 30332
> > (404) 894-1686
> > (404) 894-1629 (Fax)
> 
> What?? Dave's argument was fine.  Adam is clearly breaking the law if he
> does what he says he will.  If I knowingly provide someone with the means
> to committ a crime, that is illegal.  You think computer stores put


i know this is *WAY* off topic, but I think you may be wrong
here.  If a store sells a gun to a fellow like Fergusson, for
example, it is Fergusson's decision what he does with it.  He
may hunt (which I'm personally against), put it on his wall, or
do like he did and shoot a number of people on a subway.  Is it
the stores fault?  No, not really, is it...Even though I'm
personally against them selling the guns in the first place,
but this is not exactly the forum for my political views.
Anyhow, I hope I got my point accross.

Cheers,
Dan

> whatever they want on hard drives of computers being sold?  No, they pick
> popular programs which will encourage users to buy those computers and
> then PAY the software companies for those programs.  I don't generally
> respond to these petty arguments, but I get pissed when someone
> illogically flames someone for no reason.
> 
> -- 
> Jon