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Dear D.Hu:� thank-you for educating me regarding the Canadian medical system for the
disabled and elderly.� I live in the United States (Nevada) and the system here is in
dire need of profound improvment and quickly (although it has improved to a small degree).� It was kind of you
to take the time to address� Eliezer's situation.� You are
far braver than I and I appreciate your modeling bravery.� I shall attempt to respond
to more posters in this discussion group.� Thanks again.

Sincerely, Cheryl Freeman

D.Hu wrote:

> Eliezer Dvir wrote:
> >
> > Do people bother with such matters on this NG?
>
> ������� Depends
>
> >� How is it possible to ignore the fact that 70% of the disabled have
> > far less access to anything approaching 'proper' or 'adequate'
> > housing,
>
> ������� It all depends on the government we collectively end up with. Visibility of the problem helps but
> that takes energy that the disabled probably don't have surplus of. If I remember correctly, the
> feds gave $50 extra a month for people with disabilities during Vander Zalm's time and he promptly
> cut welfare payment by that amount. There was an uproar but nothing was ever done about it.
>
> > medical treatment (due simply to a lack of training in their
> > various medical schools; average 'education' in patients with chronic
> > pain:� 1 1/2 hrs - 4 hrs [max.];
>
> ������� They are getting slightly better. UBC medical school just recognized Palliative Care as one of it
> core curriculum. Will be on board in 1999. There are more and more FPs specializing in pain and
> symptom management. If you need one of those, let me know in a private email.
>
> >�������� Justice for improper treatment by negligent physicians, or a
> > 'violation of professional ethics' by probable negligent treatment,
> > is impossible to obtain for one who is attempting to find a lawyer
> > who will assist in a contingency suit against certain of the
> > physicians and various of the governmental organizations who have
> > definitely mishandled my case, with what I believe to be deliberate
> > and malicious.
>
> ������� Instead of looking for a lawyer, you should start off by sending a detailed complaint with factual
> data to the College of Physicians. Their Discipline Committee will review your case, and decide
> whether it should move forwards. If so, there will be a hearing and you would be asked to give your
> version of what happened. If the judgement of the College is against the physician, then you can
> find a lawyer to get compensation. Often, if the case is solid, the physician would be disciplined
> with lisence suspensions between 1 month to 3 years, with or without a fine. The College can also
> elect to file criminal charges if there is grounds for them.
>
> >�������� In the past week alone, the representatives of the North
> > Health Unit, noting my increased disability (my condition is
> > degenerative - thanks a bunch, 'doctor' Rosner), somehow (without
> > bothering to refer to the reports relative to my situation from those
> > responsible for my homecare and general care, such as doctors) think
> > that my condition has "improved", and cut back the hours I was
> > receiving assistance (formerly 2x daily for 2 hours; necessary,
> > considering the deterioration problem) to 3x weekly for 2 hours:
> > from 14 hours (necessary) to 6 hours (impossible)!� Justice?
> > Human/humane compassion?� Not from the 'Ministry' of Health in B.C.,
> > apparently.
>
> ������� If you are under the care of the North Health Unit, then you are under the care of Vancouver Health
> Department. The Ministry of Health has nothing to do with that decision. You should tell your
> doctor, who can then deal with the health unit directly to get your home care hours back.
>
> >����� Being denied access to proper medical care, given the fact that
> > most doctors simply aren't interested in making home visits any more,
> > is more of a problem than can be imagined, and the "patient-dumping"
> > phenomenon is very common among the disabled.
>
> ������� This is NOT a fact. I personally know of at least six GPs with admitting privileges at the hospital
> I work at who make weekly visits to their disabled and elderly patients, regardless if they are paid
> for those visits. In the past 3 years, there has been more and more physicians who have given up
> having an office and just work from home using a global phone number. These GPs do nothing but house
> calls. Their incomes get much lower but they have not much overhead, either. The room they use at
> their home can be tax-deducted. Ditto with their car expenses.
>
> ������� There are a LOT of people who still give a damn. YOU may not see them, either. Perhaps you should
> vent at the federal government who started cutting their contribution to health care funding since
> 1991, and have by now reduced their share to BC healthcare by over 55%. You can also rant about
> making healthcare of the elderly a portable benefit from their province of origin. BC elderly [many
> came from the Prairies and "back east"] consumes an average of 4 times more hospital bed-days each
> compared to people between 19 and 50. They also require much more support services such as
> dietitians, physio, occupational therapists, home care or long term care facilities, and drugs.
> Federal healthcare funding should be based on demographics besides population. This faulty formula
> is how Saskatchewan ends up with facilities with no users and we have an average 13 months wait for
> vacancies in nursing homes in BC. For everyday an elderly person stays in an acute care bed waiting
> for nursing home vacancy, it costs BC taxpayers $600 to $900 a day. That's more than your monthly
> cheque, no?
>
> --
>
> Diana aka Bootsycat
> Vancouver, B.C.
> There is intelligent life all
> over the Universe. They are all owned by cats.

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