🚀 go-pugleaf

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 05:11:58 -1000, Jan Pompe wrote
(in article <114vuuca9t59v15@news.supernews.com>):

> ward stewart wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:39:41 -1000, Tim Bruening wrote
>> (in article <424E301D.CDC56557@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>):
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Pat Winstanley wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> In article <t1qf41hma43uqljeetfu0vr75d43oqmm6t@4ax.com>,
>>>> sappywriter@poetic.com says...
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Mar 2005 02:55:29 -0800, "RepublicansAreWhiners"
>>>>> <republicansarewhiners@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> woulda, coulda, shoulda, the time to act on that -if- it were even true
>>>>>> was in 1990, not 15 years later. get over it already
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, I have a question - just a hypothetical one: If Mr. Shiavo at
>>>>> one time did beat Terri pior to her present situation, could that have
>>>>> any legal ramifications, if it were looked at that way? I mean, is
>>>>> this an avenue  tried but failed because of long lapse of time or was
>>>>> it never heard because it is a load of horseshit?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wasn't there a report somewhere that stated the injuries were
>>>> comensurate with the standard initial treatment for someone in Terri's
>>>> collapse/heart situation?
>>> 
>>> What, the paramedics beat her black and blue?
>> 
>> 
>> Attempts to start an IV, particularly with low blood pressure to maintain 
>> the 
>> patency of the veins, can result in extensive sub-cutaneous bleeding and 
>> bruising.  THEN, I myself have broken ribs several times in cardiac massage 
>> for patients in code.  LOUD snaps but part of the dramatic efforts. 
>> 
>> Ward RN
>> 
> You could try being a little gentler don't need the dramatic effects.
> 
> It's true though most people don't know just how violent rescusitation 
> methods can be.

CPR is often seen on TV and is there depicted as a gentle push push on the 
sternum -- a DEADLY mis-education of the viewing public -- it is necessary to 
actually compress the heart between the sternum and the spinal column -- a 
MAJOR push!

ward