🚀 go-pugleaf

ward stewart wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 05:11:58 -1000, Jan Pompe wrote
> (in article <114vuuca9t59v15@news.supernews.com>):
> 
> 
>>ward stewart wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:39:41 -1000, Tim Bruening wrote
>>>(in article <424E301D.CDC56557@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Pat Winstanley wrote:
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>>>>>In article <t1qf41hma43uqljeetfu0vr75d43oqmm6t@4ax.com>,
>>>>>sappywriter@poetic.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 28 Mar 2005 02:55:29 -0800, "RepublicansAreWhiners"
>>>>>><republicansarewhiners@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>woulda, coulda, shoulda, the time to act on that -if- it were even true
>>>>>>>was in 1990, not 15 years later. get over it already
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Okay, I have a question - just a hypothetical one: If Mr. Shiavo at
>>>>>>one time did beat Terri pior to her present situation, could that have
>>>>>>any legal ramifications, if it were looked at that way? I mean, is
>>>>>>this an avenue  tried but failed because of long lapse of time or was
>>>>>>it never heard because it is a load of horseshit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Wasn't there a report somewhere that stated the injuries were
>>>>>comensurate with the standard initial treatment for someone in Terri's
>>>>>collapse/heart situation?
>>>>
>>>>What, the paramedics beat her black and blue?
>>>
>>>
>>>Attempts to start an IV, particularly with low blood pressure to maintain 
>>>the 
>>>patency of the veins, can result in extensive sub-cutaneous bleeding and 
>>>bruising.  THEN, I myself have broken ribs several times in cardiac massage 
>>>for patients in code.  LOUD snaps but part of the dramatic efforts. 
>>>
>>>Ward RN
>>>
>>
>>You could try being a little gentler don't need the dramatic effects.
>>
>>It's true though most people don't know just how violent rescusitation 
>>methods can be.
> 
> 
> CPR is often seen on TV and is there depicted as a gentle push push on the 
> sternum -- a DEADLY mis-education of the viewing public -- it is necessary to 
> actually compress the heart between the sternum and the spinal column -- a 
> MAJOR push!
> 
> ward
> 
Yes it's why they only let us practise on dummies. Of course in the 
movies it the gave the push that is usually required instead of the 
stage veresion might cause a real injury if not trigger fibrilation itself.