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In article <1656@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de>, p515dfi@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Daniel Fischer) writes:
> From ACTIV-L@UMCVMB.bitnet Mon Feb 18 16:02:50 1991 - it deserves more readers
> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 91 18:57:31 CST
> From: csime%cdp@labrea.Stanford.EDU
>      President George Bush has now dropped all pretense
> about attacking Iraq in order to "defend Saudi Arabia" or
> "liberate Kuwait."  Gone is the phony rhetoric about
> defending freedom and "our way of life."  His strategy is
> now to wage a war of annihilation against Iraq and protect
> the "way of life" of Exxon.

Wrong.  Exxon PREFERS higher prices.  George Bush is a HIGH
price oil man.  High oil prices give Exxon and Texas a huge
money lift.  You are an idiot.  Think man before you speak. 
You sound like a fool.

>      Bush has given new meaning to the word "overkill."

Apparently, this "overkill" is not adequate.  Also, according 
to the Iraqi's they have lost only 90 military casualties. So
apparently our bombing is not very effective.

>      According to numerous interviews with eyewitnesses from
> Europe and the U.S. who have toured Iraq and refugees
> flooding into Jordan, hospitals, schools, community centers,
> apartment buildings, parks, shops, and religious shrines
> have all been demolished.  Large areas of Iraq are now
> without water, power, fuel, medical care or food.  Hospitals
> that are still standing are overwhelmed by the number of
> wounded.  Pictures of the destruction show vast residential
> buildings that have been ripped apart by the bombing.

Why don't you ask Saddam to stop destroying his own buildings
by firing AAA at our aircraft.  If he did that he would save a
lot of his own civilians that he is killing and the surgical
strikes would be more effective and less likely to kill civilians
and no americans would need to die.  Please address your concerns
to Iraq.

>      Peace delegations from the U.S. and Europe in Baghdad
> have been horrified at the massive destruction all around
> them.  They reported that apartment buildings have
> collapsed, killing their inhabitants, that ambulances
> continually rush wounded civilians to hospitals, and that
> homes have been demolished.  Parts of the city now look like
> the surface of the moon.

Probably all from Iraqi AAA fire.  They should stop kiling
themselves.

>      The Pentagon scoffs at these eyewitness reports by
> stating that the air war consists of "surgical strikes" with
> super accurate laser weapons.  However:

The evidence of this is there.  Look at the C&C bunker hit by
American bombs.  The outside of the building except for a hole was
virtually undamaged.  The building was penetrated cleanly and the
contents destroyed.  The allies are correct.  Our bombs are
astoundingly precise.  The types of destruction shown to cameramen
looks like the kind of barrage that comes from Iraqi AAA.

>    *  The laser weapons cleverly hide the fact that much of
> the brutal air war is fought with gravity (dumb) bombs.  For
> example, the carpet bombing by the huge B-52s is
> indiscriminate; each B-52G can drop 40,000 pounds of high
> explosives, which destroy everything in a swath one mile
> long and half a mile wide.  Every day, almost 30 B-52s have
> been dropping about 450 tons of high explosives in the war.

You fail to mention that the b52s only drop on KTO operations
on the dug in positions of the republican guard.  Are you
suggesting there are civilians there?

>      But even that is not enough.  Ominously, Pres. Bush,
> Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, General Norman Schwarzkopf
> and Vice President Dan Quayle have now all publicly stated,
> on several occasions in different interviews, that nuclear
> weapons might be used on Iraq.  Gen. Schwarzkopf, even
> before the war began, formally asked Pres. Bush for
> permission to use tactical nuclear weapons for the war.

Tactical nuclear wepaons would set a precedent but would be
ideal for this situation.  If the Iraqis give us an excuse to
use them, i.e. there own use of nuclear weapons, chemical weapons
or biological weapons we should use tactical nuclear weapons and
end the whole farce in a few minutes.

>      Gen. Schwarzkopf asked that nuclear weapons:
> 
>   (a) be detonated over Baghdad to unleash an
> electromagnetic pulse (EMP) that would destroy all
> communications in Iraq,
> 
>   (b) be used against hardened bunker positions of dug-in
> Iraqi troops.  He asked that the neutron bomb would be used
> against these troops.  Without the Soviet Union to challenge
> the U.S., the Pentagon feels emboldened and believes that
> using tactical nuclear weapons against Iraq will not set off
> a nuclear war with the Soviet Union.

Norman has asked his president for the course which minimizes US
casualties.  In a purely military sense this is the ideal weapon
for this situation.  If put into a corner the US has the option
to use it.  This should make it clear to Iraq that it cannot win.
They will get out of Kuwait and then we can discuss the situation.