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In article <JIME.92Apr14110058@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# In article <1992Apr14.052115.24889@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >   # >   # 2.  After the populace fled, any farmers etc returning to their lands
# >   # >  # were arrested or shot.

# >   # >	   At least you admit that many fled, and were not forced.  Almost
# >   # >   none were shot when they did not instigate, and when they were shot,
# >   # >   there was substantial reason to believe there was a threat.  I do not
# >   # >   know of any that were arrested, but some were deported (is that what
# >   # >   you mean by arrested?).

# >   # Many were forced to flee.

# >	   This was a small percentage of those that fled.
 
# This is nonsense.  People don't flee just on a whim.  They flee from
# something.  In this case, from the Jewish attacks.  Even an IDF report
# of the time estimated that about two-thirds of the Arab population
# that fled did so as a direct result of the attacks by the Jews.
 
	First of all, a lot of the Jewish establishment (which obviously
included the IDF) was involved in the lie smearing Irgun/LEHI for Deir
Yassin.  What they fled from, for the most part, was fear from wht
might happen, or because they were told to leave so they could come
back afterwards to take over Jewish property.  Some were forced out,
but that was a relatively small percentage.

# >   # Many were shot when they tried to harvest
# >   # the crops from their own land.  Does that count as instigation?

# >	   Nope (to both the question and the statement).  Some were
# >   deported, those that were shot either commited acts of violence, or
# >   else gave good reason to believe they were going to.
 
# This is a brutal form of justice, when those suspected of perhaps
# being violent in the future are shot in advance.  Some of the
# Holocaust was justified in this manner.
 
	I agree it is a brutal form of justice.  However, it is not what
happened.  Your claiming this big lie will not make it true.  Very few
were shot at all, and only when they initiaited violence.

# >   # Most [Arab] villages [that were demolished by the Jews in 1948] were
# >   # dynamited after they were abandoned by the Arabs, and thus presented
# >   # no more danger to the Israelis.

# >	   But they would have been a danger had they remained and the Arabs
# >   came back to them.
 
# Nonsense.  Some of these Arab villages lived in harmony with the Jews
# for decades.

	None of those villages were destroyed.

# Again, this was a brutal form of justice, the demolition
# of whole villages based on suspicion of future crimes, and delineated
# by racism.
 
	Villages were demolished because attacks had already taken place
from them.  There was no "anticipation" involved.

	The only thing brutal here is your attempted destruction of the
truth.
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David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu