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Re: Schmidling is simply wrong.

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From: Elya Kapelyan
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 22:39
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In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug3172857@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>, eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
|> In article <mykes.0b0g@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
|> >   In article <EGGERTJ.92Jul30165655@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
|> >   > Yemen is starting to be a democracy now.  Lebanon would be a democracy
|> >   > if it weren't for the constant invasion, occupation, and civil war.
|> >   > Shall we start supporting these two countries at the same rate we
|> >   > support Israel?  Or should we reduce Israel's support to the levels we
|> >   > give Lebanon and Yemen?
|> >
|> >   When Jimmy Carter got Egypt and Isreal to agree to peace, he promised
|> >   $2Billion in US foreign aid to each country, per year, as an incentive.
|> >   We should keep the promises we make, even if they are Jimmy Carter's.
|> 
|> Egypt and Israel also promised in the Camp David Accords to set up an
|> autonomous Palestinian state.  That has not happened, so I consider
|> the Camp David Accord unfulfilled.  Yet we still pay.

	You really have a fixation on a Palestinian state, don't you?  As I 
pointed out in a previous post, the Camp David Accords (CDA), were primarily
about the return of the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, and the "autonomy" section
was essentially a fig leaf for Sadat.  In any event, other Arabs immediately
rejected the CDA, and the provisions for any autonomy for the Palestinians.
So where does that leave you?
 
|> >...
|> >   > I don't understand what you mean when you say that Israel has been one
|> >   > of the USA's most steadfast allies.  Do you mean that the US has, in
|> >   > time of need, been able to go to Israel for help?  Do you mean that
|> >   > Israel has done its best to do what the US wants it to do?  Please
|> >   > explain.
|> >
|> >   First, let me say that I am Jewish, so don't accuse me of racism or
|> >   other ethnic slurs.  99.9% of the Jews I know are democrats.  ...
|> 
|> I have made no such accusation.  As for your running commentary on
|> Jewish Democrats, what does that have to do with Israel's status as a
|> "steadfast ally"?

	Do we really need to go into this again?  I believe that more than 
enough has been written about this subject, but to answer your question, yes
the US has been able to go to Israel for help when it needed/wanted it.  As 
for Israel doing "its best to do what the US wants it to do", that describes
a puppet and not an ally.

|> --
|> =Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)


	Elya
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