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In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug3182009@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>, eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug2.112925.22708@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mot.com (Mark) writes:
|> >   In article <EGGERTJ.92Jul30165655@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
|> >   >I don't understand what you mean when you say that Israel has been one
|> >   >of the USA's most steadfast allies.  Do you mean that the US has, in
|> >   >time of need, been able to go to Israel for help?  Do you mean that
|> >   >Israel has done its best to do what the US wants it to do?  Please
|> >   >explain.
|> >
|> >   Well, militarily, the US and Israel have a number of joint projects currently, as
|> >   well as having purchased each others technology. (Arrow missile, pilotless planes,
|> >   tank armor improvements, etc.)  Non-militarily, the US and Israel have a free
|> >   trade agreement. (furniture, clothing, etc.)  I believe the US and Israel have
|> >   common voting patterns in the UN.  During the Gulf war, Israel stayed out at
|> >   the request of the US.
|> 
|> Militarily, Israel has developed the atomic bomb, much to the chagrin
|> of the US.  They did so in part by stealing nuclear materials from the
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|> US.  They have also spied extensively on us (the Pollard case is just
|> what has been discovered and revealed).  They have been accused of
|> selling US military technology to China and South Africa.
|> Non-militarily US-Israeli trade couldn't make a fly sneeze.  The US
|> and Israel have common voting patterns in the UN, mostly because the
|> US is backing Israel on a lot of Mideast resolutions.  During the Gulf
|> war, Israel stayed out as the result of about 3 minutes of reflection
|> on the cost and benefits of bombing Iraq.
|> 
	Would you care to elaborate on what Israel "stole" from the US to
build its A-bomb?

	How do you know that Israel has "spied extensively on us"?  Are
you privy to some information that the rest of us mere mortals are not? 
Or do you simply have a neurosis?

	The charges of Israel selling American military technology to
China is a load of horse pucky, and everyone knows it.

	As for US-Israeli non-military trade, we import a good deal of
Israeli pharmaceutical products, and most major semiconductor
manufacturers have R&D plants in Israel (Intel, National Semiconductor,
Motorala, etc.) and I believe that either the 386 or the 486 chip was
partially developed in Israel.  Sounds like enough to make a fly sneeze.

	During the Gulf war, Israel stayed out under heavy US pressure. 
As for the nonsense someone posted earlier that Israel stayed out 
because its planes could have been shot down by Allied aircraft, the
solution was extremely simple--give Israel the electronic codes for
identifying friendly aircraft.

	In short, you posted a lot of nonsense.  So please go see a
psychiatrist near you for treatment of your neurosis, and then visit
the nearest grade school for a lesson on differentiating fact from 
gossip.

	Elya