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Started by Charles Packer
Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:57
More Sarajevo notes
Author: Charles Packer
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:57
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:57
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Still not much has been published in the way of pictures of the alleged destruction of Sarajevo. There are two possible reasons for this: 1. There is no destruction, after all; to some degree or other, it's a hoax. 2. There is destruction, but the media are waiting to release pictures to coincide with some event in the offing. Those familiar with my other postings will know that I've favored (1), but it's worth considering (2) in the light of all the talk about the expected UN resolution to use force to protect their relief effort. The deployment of troops, including Americans, to carry out this resolution could be the event for which they're waiting. In either case, such news management would be easy to bring off because the public, not able to imagine who could benefit from the ploy, would never recognize that it was happening. Speaking of American troops, I read that a general told Congress yesterday that "...it may be one of the prerequisites for that happening successfully [i.e. deployment of troops] is to build a permissive environment [in Bosnia] through political and diplomatic action." I can just hear him at his =next= meeting with Congress, when it's demanded of him that he explain what he was talking about: "Senator, I meant to say that we cannot risk the use of FORCE until PEACE comes to the area!
Re: More Sarajevo notes
Author: Steve Adams
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:39
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:39
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packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>Still not much has been published in the way of pictures
>of the alleged destruction of Sarajevo. There are two possible
>reasons for this:
>1. There is no destruction, after all; to some degree or other,
> it's a hoax.
>2. There is destruction, but the media are waiting to release
> pictures to coincide with some event in the offing.
3. It is %&$*(&%$*( dangerous to move around in Yugoslavia...ask Sam
Donaldson's (ex-)Producer...and they were travelling in a Govt. convoy...
-Steve
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Re: More Sarajevo notes
Author: Ray Davis
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:32
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:32
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packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes: >Still not much has been published in the way of pictures >of the alleged destruction of Sarajevo. Huh?!? I don't know what they've been showing on NBC, ABC and CBS, but on this side of the pond (Germany) there has been a LOT of coverage with plenty of pictures on ITN, BBC, ARD, ZDF and others. Yes - there is plenty of destruction. It is dangerous just to cross the street. Given that the UN backed troops during the crisis weren't about to bomb the hotels where journalists were staying in Baghdad, I'd say the journalists in Sarajevo are in much more danger.
Re: More Sarajevo notes
Author: Josip Loncaric
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:30
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:30
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In article <rdavis.713727159@connie.de.convex.com> rdavis@convex.com (Ray Davis) writes: >packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes: > >>Still not much has been published in the way of pictures >>of the alleged destruction of Sarajevo. > >Huh?!? I don't know what they've been showing on NBC, ABC >and CBS, but on this side of the pond (Germany) there has >been a LOT of coverage with plenty of pictures on ITN, BBC, >ARD, ZDF and others. No need to get upset. Not much has been published in the way of pictures of the alleged Charles Packer. Until clear evidence of his actual existence is found, we may safely assume that postings under this name are simply a plot by USENET to generate more traffic. :-)
Re: More Sarajevo notes
Author: Elizabeth G. Levy
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:47
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:47
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In article <1992Aug13.183009.2470@src.umd.edu> josip@src.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) writes: > >No need to get upset. Not much has been published in the way of >pictures of the alleged Charles Packer. Until clear evidence of >his actual existence is found, we may safely assume that postings >under this name are simply a plot by USENET to generate more traffic. Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries...Is Charles Packer an advanced AI project, one that could pass a Turing Test? -- This is not a .signature
Re: More Sarajevo notes
Author: Stupendous Man
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:13
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:13
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In article <12AUG199221570952@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes: > Still not much has been published in the way of pictures > of the alleged destruction of Sarajevo. There are two possible > reasons for this: > > 1. There is no destruction, after all; to some degree or other, > it's a hoax. > > 2. There is destruction, but the media are waiting to release > pictures to coincide with some event in the offing. You forgot 3) Your just not looking hard enough, or you are unwilling to accept evidence you do see. I see pics of Sarajevo every night on the news. They've been in the paper often. Today's paper carrier the headline: SERBS ROUT THOUSANDS: UN decires eviction of Muslims > Those familiar with my other postings will know that I've > favored (1), but it's worth considering (2) in the light of all > the talk about the expected UN resolution to use force to > protect their relief effort. The deployment of troops, including > Americans, to carry out this resolution could be the event for > which they're waiting. In either case, such news management > would be easy to bring off because the public, not able to > imagine who could benefit from the ploy, would never recognize > that it was happening. Reaching a bit, aren't we? There's no reason it even has to be the US that goes in. > Speaking of American troops, I read that a general told > Congress yesterday that > > "...it may be one of the prerequisites for that > happening successfully [i.e. deployment of troops] > is to build a permissive environment [in Bosnia] through > political and diplomatic action." > > I can just hear him at his =next= meeting with Congress, > when it's demanded of him that he explain what he was > talking about: "Senator, I meant to say that we cannot > risk the use of FORCE until PEACE comes to the area! He meant that he cannot insert troops until a zone of safety appears. Inserting troops into a hostile environment gets them killed very quickly. Brett _______________________________________________________________________________ Proconsul Computer Consulting CHA-CHING! Better, Cheaper, Faster (Pick any two :) Disclaimer: NOT!
Re: More Sarajevo notes
Author: Charles Packer
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:20
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:20
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In article <1992Aug13.141339.3437@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes... > I see pics of Sarajevo every night on the news. They've been in the > ... > He meant that he cannot insert troops until a zone of safety appears. >Inserting troops into a hostile environment gets them killed very quickly. There =are= pictures identified as being from Sarajevo, yes, but with only a couple of exceptions since April, they don't show destroyed buildings. They show people running, soldiers with rifles standing, old ladies in shawls and scarves. Anybody who knows when to "insert" troops should have been a general himself!
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