🚀 go-pugleaf

Some of you people have been uppity, some of you people have been lazy. And
while we're talking about some of white folks I work with.... I'm getting
sick of it too.

signed,
some white guy---now some-body take me to the promised land.


"BlackNight" <me@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On 1 Dec 2003 07:10:12 -0800, ccleland2000@yahoo.com (charles) wrote:
>
> How many small negatives messages are required to change a man?  How
> many negatives messages reach the ears and eyes of my children each
> day?  Who pays for the damage?  I think that we all pay.
>
>
> >"Godzilla Pimp" <GodzillaPimp@notme.net> wrote in message
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> >> URBAN LAW 101
> >>
> >> ADVENTURES WITH BLACK CLIENTS.
> >>
> >> by Donald Williamson, Attorney
> >>
> >> published in American Renaissance Vol. 14 No. 9 (September 2003)
> >>
> >> I grew up in a suburb of a large northern city, and had no real contact
with
> >> blacks until I became a lawyer. After I got my law degree I naively
looked
> >> forward to a rewarding legal career. Little did I realize that 25 years
> >> later I would be a self-employed attorney doing domestic and civil
> >> litigation for a clientele that is overwhelmingly black. I didn't plan
it
> >> that way. I just wanted to do a lot of work in the courtroom, and the
best
> >> offer I got out of law school was with a small firm that specialized in
> >> bankruptcy. Most of its clients were black. Several years later, I set
up an
> >> independent practice and many of my former clients came to me for
domestic
> >> work.
> >>
> >> Most people do not realize this, but outside the world of corporate or
> >> securities law, in any big city the legal profession is to a large
degree
> >> fueled by the pathologies of blacks and other Third-World people. Of
course,
> >> whites hire lawyers, but in any city, especially one with a good-sized
black
> >> population, most of the people who need lawyers are black. In this
respect,
> >> lawyers are like police officers or social workers - they rarely deal
with
> >> ordinary white people. To a large degree, I became racially conscious
> >> because of my black clients, who eventually destroyed all my
preconceived
> >> notions about race. My awakening did not come from one or even a few
> >> incidents, but from the accumulation of thousands upon thousands of
small
> >> interactions.
> >>
> >> My black clients eventually destroyed all my preconceived notions about
> >> race. Day after day my clients continue to amaze me. There is no racial
> >> education quite so thorough and convincing as spending time with
blacks, and
> >> my clients are far from being the poorest and least competent blacks.
They
> >> are not indigent criminals for whom I am a court-appointed lawyer. They
are
> >> people who can afford (or think they can afford) a lawyer to get a
divorce,
> >> contest a custody judgment, beat a traffic ticket, etc. Some are
government
> >> employees who make $60 to $70 thousand a year, yet even this group is
vastly
> >> different from whites.
> >>
> >> THEY DON'T KNOW
> >>
> >> One of the most striking things about my black clients is the things
they do
> >> not know. Many blacks, for example, do not know their own telephone
numbers.
> >> They may think they do but they don't, and the problem has gotten worse
with
> >> the proliferation of cell phones. At least a third of the numbers they
leave
> >> with my receptionist or on my answering machine are wrong numbers.
Often, a
> >> potential client will call several times, each time leaving a variation
of
> >> the same phone number. I keep calling until they get it right. At first
I
> >> thought I was taking down the numbers incorrectly, but now I know
better.
> >> With caller ID, it is clear when what the client says does not match
the
> >> digital display. Some callers don't even leave a number. About a
quarter of
> >> the messages blacks leave do not include either a name or a number.
Needless
> >> to say, many calls are not returned.
> >>
> >> More than a handful of blacks who have come to my office do not even
know
> >> their own home address (they move often). Many cannot tell me their own
> >> spouse's names. Now I know to tell clients ahead of time that they will
need
> >> this sort of information when they come in. Otherwise, if I ask for
> >> someone's address he may look hurt and say, "If I'd known you were
going to
> >> ask me that I would have come prepared."
> >>
> >> Many black men know their children's names but do not know how to spell
> >> them. With the proliferation of unusual names among blacks, I can only
guess
> >> at how they are spelled. One client who told me he couldn't spell his
> >> children's names said I would need an encyclopedia to look them up.
Many men
> >> have admitted to me they are not even sure how to pronounce their
children's
> >> names. Black woman, on the other hand, often become incensed if you
> >> mispronounce the very unusual names they have given their children.
> >>
> >> The most unusual name I ever came across was Iisszzttadda. I have never
met
> >> a person, white or black, who could pronounce it correctly. To my
surprise
> >> the name is pronounced, "I seize the day." Iisszzttadda had siblings
named
> >> Raheem, Utopian, Desiorme, Sid-Timothy, Kizzma, and Larilaril. I have
> >> occasionally asked clients the reasons for such unusual names, but the
most
> >> common answer is "I don't know. It just sounded good." This is the
answer I
> >> got from a mother who named her child Latrine. (See sidebar for actual
names
> >> of blacks I have encountered in my practice.) I once had a client in my
> >> office who did not know his own name. He had been called by his
nickname for
> >> so long he couldn't remember his given name. This is not as shocking as
it
> >> sounds. Some black names, like Phe-anjoy or Quithreaun or JyesahJhnai,
are
> >> so odd, it would be no surprise if they were never used and eventually
> >> forgotten.
> >>
> >> Some Names of Blacks Encountered in My Practice
> >>
> >> Aaja (pronounced Asia), Acacia, Ajeenah, Akai, Aquanita, Aryan White,
> >> Baleria, Barbertha, Callie (pronounced Kelly), CaAndi, Chetiqua,
Cloteal,
> >> Curly Top, Darhies, Dayphine, Debrasharme, Derecio, Dertiteriesa,
Dikueria
> >> and Dikuria (twins), Dildree, Dishon, Dovanna, Duanita, Dyiamond,
Dwendolyn,
> >> Effillyne, Elizabeth Taylor, Endrissa, Equandolyn, Esaw, Everage,
Floyce,
> >> Franshawn, Ghia, Godzilla Pimp, Ivier, Jartavious, JyesahJhnai,
Keithen,
> >> Kentnilla, Lafondra, La,poo (yes, contains comma), Latronia, Lemonjello
and
> >> Orangejello (twins), L'Tonya, Machoda, Nau-Quia, Mayima, Minute,
Miquel,
> >> Nethel, Omnipotence, Ondra (pronounced Andre, Ozro, Padraic, Pecola,
> >> Phe-anjoy, Precious Unique, Queen Esther, Quithreaun, Rincesetta,
Sanja,
> >> Saranus, Shanieja, Sharicus, Shiquipa, SiJourna'i, Silquia, Sinetra,
Summer
> >> Love, Termicka, Tequilla, Timphanie, Tryphenia, Tywana, Tzaddi and
Tzavvi
> >> (twins), Ulheric, Undlia, Undrea (pronounced Andre), Wsam, Xiomara, XL,
Yaw,
> >> Yuvodka Sharice, Wilida, Zaquan, Zufan, Zyneene.
> >>
> >> Since appointments mean so little to my clients, I decide each day when
I am
> >> available, and tell everyone to show up at the same time. Names are not
the
> >> only things blacks do not know. Once when I was filling out a form for
a
> >> female client I asked if she knew how old her husband was. She told me
she
> >> didn't know. I asked her the next question on the form, which was her
> >> husband's birth date. Amazingly, she knew it - and was genuinely
surprised
> >> when I told her she could figure out her husband's age from his birth
date.
> >>
> >> When potential clients call for the first time, often the hardest part
is to
> >> figure out why they are calling. Usually they begin in the middle of
the
> >> story. If you let them, they will go on and on, and say nothing.
Clients may
> >> call about papers they got in the mail, but never have the papers in
front
> >> of them. They may call for information, but never have a pen or pencil
ready
> >> to take it down. I have learned to ask direct questions: "What is your
> >> name?" "What is the problem?" If a client cannot tell me in three
minutes or
> >> less what the problem is, I tell him to come to my office and bring a
small
> >> retainer fee. That way at least I will have to listen to their
ramblings
> >> only if they are prepared to pay.
> >>
> >> Blacks with whom I have already spoken seem to think I should know
instantly
> >> who they are when they telephone. After I get on the line, a typical
> >> conversation may go like this:
> >>
> >> "Who am I speaking to?"
> >> "I am your client."
> >> "I have many clients, can you tell me which one?"
> >> "I am your divorce client."
> >> "Can you tell me your name?"
> >> "Rufus."
> >> "Rufus, can you tell me your last name?"
> >>
> >> The conversation may go on for some time before I finally figure out
who is
> >> calling.
> >>
> >> I do not take personal injury or product liability cases, but blacks
are
> >> always asking about bringing suits of this kind: "My vacuum cleaner
broke.
> >> Can you help me?"
> >>
> >> Most of my clients who are not black either show up on time for
appointments
> >> or call if they must reschedule. Amazing as this may seem, only about
five
> >> percent of my black clients show up on time, and by that I mean within
an
> >> hour of the appointed time. Only one in five show up on the appointed
day. A
> >> few trickle in a day or two later. Most just never show up. Missing an
> >> appointment never embarrasses black people. They call repeatedly for
new
> >> appointments, making four, five or even six appointments and then miss
them
> >> all. I had one client who called more than 50 times before he finally
came
> >> to my office. Rarely do I ever get a call from a black client canceling
an
> >> appointment.
> >>
> >> When I first started out as a lawyer I would call clients in advance to
> >> remind them of their appointments. They thanked me, but it made them no
more
> >> likely to show up. Also, I used to call clients and potential clients
who
> >> missed appointments, and try to have them reschedule. This did very
little
> >> good. The most common response was, "Why are you calling me?" and it
was
> >> never their fault that they didn't show up. They had many different
excuses,
> >> but I never heard, "I forgot," or "I'm sorry I didn't make it."
> >>
> >> Since appointments mean so little to my clients, I decide each day when
I am
> >> available, and tell everyone to show up at the same time. On Saturday
> >> afternoons I can have as many as twenty appointments for the same time.
> >> Usually it is not a problem because few show up and even fewer show up
on
> >> time. Only once in the last 20 years did everyone show up.
> >>
> >> Many of my clients are unable to explain even the most basic facts.
Often
> >> they must take the witness stand, and no matter how many times we have
gone
> >> over the testimony in advance, I can be surprised by what they say.
Some are
> >> simply lying and get tangled up in their lies, but most have such low
IQs,
> >> they cannot describe even the simplest things. Often they seem to say
the
> >> first thing that pops into their heads. When they are questioned
further
> >> they cannot remember what they said previously.
> >>
> >> I once had a client whose wife was suing him for child support. In
> >> discussions before trial he told me he had two children from a previous
> >> marriage. This was favorable for him because it meant he would probably
owe
> >> his current wife less money. At trial, his wife testified that my
client had
> >> no children outside of their marriage. When I asked him on the stand
how
> >> many children he had before he married his current wife, he said he had
> >> none. Later I asked him why he had answered that way, when he told me
before
> >> that he had two other children. "Did I say that?" he asked. I never
found
> >> out which version was true.
> >>
> >> Many of my clients have a hard time following simple directions. Once I
> >> appeared in traffic court with a client. In lieu of a conviction he was
to
> >> see a traffic safety movie. The courtroom was on the second floor of
the
> >> courthouse, and the traffic safety movie was shown on the first floor.
The
> >> client was to come back to the courtroom with proof - which would be
given
> >> him on the firsfloor - that he watched the movie. Both the judge and I
> >> explained this to the client. At the designated hour my client did not
come
> >> back to the courtroom. Later that afternoon I got a call from the
judge, who
> >> told me my client had completely misunderstood the instructions. He
went to
> >> the nearest commercial movie house, saw a movie, and brought back his
movie
> >> ticket stub.
> >>
> >> Long ago I stopped asking my clients why they did something. It is not
worth
> >> the effort. Most don't know. The ones who know usually cannot give a
> >> coherent answer. Even if they can give a coherent answer, it usually
changes
> >> every time you ask.
> >>
> >> For example, one of my black divorce clients tried to hide assets from
his
> >> spouse - this is not uncommon. Through discovery it came to light that
he
> >> had secretly bought a piece of property after the divorce had begun. He
put
> >> his wife's name on the title, a very odd thing to do, since he was
trying to
> >> hide the property from her. I made the mistake of asking him why he did
> >> that. True to my previous experiences, he could not give an answer that
made
> >> sense.
> >>
> >> Clients sometimes tell me they knew they were being cheated, but signed
the
> >> papers anyway. I have given up asking why they signed, because I know I
will
> >> not get an intelligible answer.
> >>
> >> My clients make mistakes in written and spoken English that are often
> >> comical. One client in a criminal case told me he was telling the
truth, and
> >> was willing to take a "polyester test" to prove it. Another told me he
> >> desperately wanted to see me, and needed an appointment "between
Tuesday and
> >> Wednesday." One who bounced a check told me the problem was
"insignificant
> >> funds" in his account. I have had clients who have "profiteering" plans
at
> >> work, want an "uncontestable" divorce (or a "detested" divorce, or an
> >> "untested" divorce), had "insects" (incest) in the family, need an
> >> "annoyment" (annulment), want a free "flirtation" (consultation), ask
about
> >> my "container" (retainer), want to "consultate" about a divorce, or had
to
> >> meet with "media people" (mediation counselors). One man told me, "I
own a
> >> car but it is not mine," and one who was accused of indecent exposure
> >> insisted, "I didn't take my stuff out of my pants."
> >>
> >> It took me some time to understand certain kinds of black slang. Within
the
> >> first month of my independent practice a man called to ask if I could
"put a
> >> suitcase on a cat." After much inquiry I realized he wanted to know if
I
> >> could file a law suit against someone. Within the week I got another
call
> >> asking if I "did luggage." Since I now knew about suitcases, I said
yes, I
> >> do luggage. I pride myself on doing good work for my clients, but I
cannot
> >> remember even once being thanked or complimented by a black client.
They do
> >> not observe even the most common courtesies. Also, with rare
exceptions,
> >> blacks will never admit they made a mistake. When things go wrong, as
they
> >> inevitably do, it is always someone else's fault. The most common
excuse
> >> blacks give is, "They are putting me through the changes." I have yet
to
> >> figure out exactly what that means.
> >>
> >> Most people tell lies because they think a lie will help them. I have
come
> >> to the conclusion that most of my clients cannot distinguish between a
> >> plausible lie and a wild fairy tale. They are convinced people will
believe
> >> anything they say. Clients often tell me some fantastic story I cannot
> >> possibly defend in court. If I tell them what they are saying is
> >> unbelievable the usual reaction is anger and screaming. Typically, they
will
> >> add, "I'm paying you. You have to believe what I say."
> >>
> >> One client was willing to take a "polyester test" to prove he was
telling
> >> the truth. Sometimes, despite my warnings, clients will get on the
stand and
> >> tell obvious, outright lies. The judge may interrupt the testimony and
tell
> >> me to go outside with my client to "get your story straight." They are
not
> >> going to sit in court and listen to fairy tales. I take my client
outside
> >> and tell him he has got to tell the truth, or at least say something
> >> believable. My client then starts screaming. "Why are you talking to me
this
> >> way? You're supposed to be on my side."
> >>
> >> I once had a client testify about his assets in a divorce case, in
which the
> >> court was to determine whether he should pay his estranged wife
temporary
> >> support. My client was a store-front preacher, and testified that he
lived
> >> in the marital residence with his wife, though in separate quarters.
His
> >> wife testified that he was out living with his "ho." My client went on
and
> >> on about how this was impossible because he was a Man of God. I thought
he
> >> was lying. The judge ruled that if my client was living with his wife
he
> >> should share household expenses, which he was not currently paying. At
this
> >> point, my client realized there was a cost to pretending to be a Man of
God
> >> living with his lawful wife, and changed his tune. "Judge why are you
> >> believing me?" he said. "Believe my wife. I am nothing but an old lying
> >> nigger." No one in the courtroom could stop laughing.
> >>
> >> OUTSIDE KIDS
> >>
> >> "Outside kid" cases are one of my specialties. For those not in the
know,
> >> blacks call any child born out of wedlock an outside kid. Black men are
good
> >> at making children but not at supporting them, and this can be a
terrible
> >> burden under laws written with white people in mind.
> >>
> >> In my state, the parent who does not have custody - almost always the
> >> father - pays a percentage of net income to the parent with custody -
almost
> >> always the mother. The mother gets 20 percent of the father's net
income for
> >> the first child, 25 percent for two children, and up to 50 percent for
five
> >> or more children. What if a man has children by several women? Each
mother
> >> gets 20 percent for the first child, so a man with five children by
five
> >> different women is supposed to be paying 100 percent of his income in
child
> >> support. I once had a client who had 12 different children by 10
different
> >> women. Theoretically, he owed 250 percent of his income. These laws
simply
> >> don't make sense for blacks. Judges have to decide each case as best
they
> >> can.
> >>
> >> Not surprisingly, the average black client will not pay child support
unless
> >> it is deducted from his paycheck. Many refuse to work, or leave a job
to
> >> avoid paying. Job turnover is very high among blacks, and the court
system
> >> has a hard time keeping up with them. Some blacks quit on purpose, and
move
> >> to another job so as to keep one step ahead of the collections.
> >>
> >> Whenever I ask a potential client whether he has paid court-ordered
child
> >> support he will almost invariably answer with one or more of the
following:
> >> "I always helps my kids." "I gives the mother money whenever she asks."
"I
> >> am always there for my kids." "I buys my kids whatever they needs." It
> >> almost always turns out they have paid no support, haven't seen their
> >> children in years, and at best may have paid for some basketball shoes.
> >>
> >> Children do not always seem to have the same importance for blacks that
they
> >> do for whites. I was in bankruptcy court once waiting for my client's
case
> >> to be called. A black debtor - not my client - was before the judge
trying
> >> to convince him to approve his bankruptcy repayment plan. The judge
told him
> >> he could not afford both his Cadillac and his children, and had to give
up
> >> one or the other. The debtor immediately said he could not give up his
car,
> >> and therefore the judge would have to take his kids. The judge threw up
his
> >> hands and walked off the bench. On another occasion, the same
bankruptcy
> >> judge told a black debtor he could not afford both his Cadillac and his
> >> house. The debtor replied, "You can live in your car but you can't
drive
> >> your house. Take my house." This was many years ago and tastes in cars
may
> >> have changed, but I learned how important Cadillacs were to blacks.
> >>
> >> In one respect my job is very different from that of a policeman or
social
> >> worker: I have to make sure I am paid. I try to get paid in full before
I
> >> agree to represent a client. If I am not paid in full before the case
is
> >> over I know I will never get any more money. Clients have a hard time
> >> understanding they are paying for an attorney's time. Invariably, if a
> >> client drops a case before it is over he asks for a full refund. Their
> >> reasoning goes something like this: "I paid for a divorce and I didn't
get
> >> one, so I should get all my money back."
> >>
> >> Once I sued a client who didn't pay me.I finally garnished his wages
and was
> >> paid in full. About six months later he called to ask me to take his
next
> >> case. I told him I didn't want a client that doesn't pay his bills. He
> >> became indignant. He said I got all my money, so what did I have to
complain
> >> about.
> >>
> >> To hear my clients tell it, banks are constantly "messing" with their
> >> checking accounts. At least that is what they tell me when their checks
> >> bounce. Most of my clients do not have checking accounts, and pay cash.
The
> >> ones who do have accounts have no idea how much money is in them. Many
> >> clients have written me checks on accounts that were closed.
> >>
> >> Black clients yell and scream at me every day; I have learned that this
is
> >> normal. They are like young children who don't get their way. I usually
> >> ignore these outbursts, though screaming back at them is usually more
> >> effective. I have been threatened with physical violence only twice,
and
> >> once I had to call the police to escort a client out of my office.
> >>
> >> My experience is hardly unique. Most of the lawyers I know have
practices
> >> similar to mine. Most lawyers therefore are racial realists even if
they do
> >> not admit it openly. Their actions and comments are no different from
mine.
> >> People who have daily contact with minorities, who know first-hand that
> >> there are racial differences, are likely to be the best prospects for
any
> >> movement that promotes racial consciousness. They don't like dealing
with
> >> blacks, but that is simply part of the business. If they can't take it
> >> anymore they get into some other line of work.
> >>
> >> One lawyer I know moved to the country so he would have white clients.
He
> >> had lived in the big city all his life, but was willing to pull up all
his
> >> roots to get a different clientele.
> >>
> >> Recently the supreme court in my state ruled that a lawyer can be
> >> disciplined for communications that racially denigrate litigants. For
that
> >> reason I cannot write this article under my own name, much as I would
like
> >> to. I must hide behind a pseudonym for fear of falling victim to our
> >> politically-correct supreme court.
> >>
> >> Donald Williamson practices law in the Midwest.
> >
> >But dey bees Gawds chillen.
> >
> >Charles
>