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Re: ADVENTURES WITH BLACK CLIENTS

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From: Pastor Tom Ford
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:09
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If you are making all this money serving all these clients with their many
and varied needs, how in God's name do you even have time to sit down and
type out such a lengthy piece!  And for what purpose?


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> > URBAN LAW 101
> >
> > ADVENTURES WITH BLACK CLIENTS.
> >
> > by Donald Williamson, Attorney
> >
> > published in American Renaissance Vol. 14 No. 9 (September 2003)
> >
> > I grew up in a suburb of a large northern city, and had no real contact
with
> > blacks until I became a lawyer. After I got my law degree I naively
looked
> > forward to a rewarding legal career. Little did I realize that 25 years
> > later I would be a self-employed attorney doing domestic and civil
> > litigation for a clientele that is overwhelmingly black. I didn't plan
it
> > that way. I just wanted to do a lot of work in the courtroom, and the
best
> > offer I got out of law school was with a small firm that specialized in
> > bankruptcy. Most of its clients were black. Several years later, I set
up an
> > independent practice and many of my former clients came to me for
domestic
> > work.
> >
> > Most people do not realize this, but outside the world of corporate or
> > securities law, in any big city the legal profession is to a large
degree
> > fueled by the pathologies of blacks and other Third-World people. Of
course,
> > whites hire lawyers, but in any city, especially one with a good-sized
black
> > population, most of the people who need lawyers are black. In this
respect,
> > lawyers are like police officers or social workers - they rarely deal
with
> > ordinary white people. To a large degree, I became racially conscious
> > because of my black clients, who eventually destroyed all my
preconceived
> > notions about race. My awakening did not come from one or even a few
> > incidents, but from the accumulation of thousands upon thousands of
small
> > interactions.
> >
> > My black clients eventually destroyed all my preconceived notions about
> > race. Day after day my clients continue to amaze me. There is no racial
> > education quite so thorough and convincing as spending time with blacks,
and
> > my clients are far from being the poorest and least competent blacks.
They
> > are not indigent criminals for whom I am a court-appointed lawyer. They
are
> > people who can afford (or think they can afford) a lawyer to get a
divorce,
> > contest a custody judgment, beat a traffic ticket, etc. Some are
government
> > employees who make $60 to $70 thousand a year, yet even this group is
vastly
> > different from whites.
> >
> > THEY DON'T KNOW
> >
> > One of the most striking things about my black clients is the things
they do
> > not know. Many blacks, for example, do not know their own telephone
numbers.
> > They may think they do but they don't, and the problem has gotten worse
with
> > the proliferation of cell phones. At least a third of the numbers they
leave
> > with my receptionist or on my answering machine are wrong numbers.
Often, a
> > potential client will call several times, each time leaving a variation
of
> > the same phone number. I keep calling until they get it right. At first
I
> > thought I was taking down the numbers incorrectly, but now I know
better.
> > With caller ID, it is clear when what the client says does not match the
> > digital display. Some callers don't even leave a number. About a quarter
of
> > the messages blacks leave do not include either a name or a number.
Needless
> > to say, many calls are not returned.
> >
> > More than a handful of blacks who have come to my office do not even
know
> > their own home address (they move often). Many cannot tell me their own
> > spouse's names. Now I know to tell clients ahead of time that they will
need
> > this sort of information when they come in. Otherwise, if I ask for
> > someone's address he may look hurt and say, "If I'd known you were going
to
> > ask me that I would have come prepared."
> >
> > Many black men know their children's names but do not know how to spell
> > them. With the proliferation of unusual names among blacks, I can only
guess
> > at how they are spelled. One client who told me he couldn't spell his
> > children's names said I would need an encyclopedia to look them up. Many
men
> > have admitted to me they are not even sure how to pronounce their
children's
> > names. Black woman, on the other hand, often become incensed if you
> > mispronounce the very unusual names they have given their children.
> >
> > The most unusual name I ever came across was Iisszzttadda. I have never
met
> > a person, white or black, who could pronounce it correctly. To my
surprise
> > the name is pronounced, "I seize the day." Iisszzttadda had siblings
named
> > Raheem, Utopian, Desiorme, Sid-Timothy, Kizzma, and Larilaril. I have
> > occasionally asked clients the reasons for such unusual names, but the
most
> > common answer is "I don't know. It just sounded good." This is the
answer I
> > got from a mother who named her child Latrine. (See sidebar for actual
names
> > of blacks I have encountered in my practice.) I once had a client in my
> > office who did not know his own name. He had been called by his nickname
for
> > so long he couldn't remember his given name. This is not as shocking as
it
> > sounds. Some black names, like Phe-anjoy or Quithreaun or JyesahJhnai,
are
> > so odd, it would be no surprise if they were never used and eventually
> > forgotten.
> >
> > Some Names of Blacks Encountered in My Practice
> >
> > Aaja (pronounced Asia), Acacia, Ajeenah, Akai, Aquanita, Aryan White,
> > Baleria, Barbertha, Callie (pronounced Kelly), CaAndi, Chetiqua,
Cloteal,
> > Curly Top, Darhies, Dayphine, Debrasharme, Derecio, Dertiteriesa,
Dikueria
> > and Dikuria (twins), Dildree, Dishon, Dovanna, Duanita, Dyiamond, Dwendo
lyn,
> > Effillyne, Elizabeth Taylor, Endrissa, Equandolyn, Esaw, Everage,
Floyce,
> > Franshawn, Ghia, Godzilla Pimp, Ivier, Jartavious, JyesahJhnai, Keithen,
> > Kentnilla, Lafondra, La,poo (yes, contains comma), Latronia, Lemonjello
and
> > Orangejello (twins), L'Tonya, Machoda, Nau-Quia, Mayima, Minute, Miquel,
> > Nethel, Omnipotence, Ondra (pronounced Andre, Ozro, Padraic, Pecola,
> > Phe-anjoy, Precious Unique, Queen Esther, Quithreaun, Rincesetta, Sanja,
> > Saranus, Shanieja, Sharicus, Shiquipa, SiJourna'i, Silquia, Sinetra,
Summer
> > Love, Termicka, Tequilla, Timphanie, Tryphenia, Tywana, Tzaddi and
Tzavvi
> > (twins), Ulheric, Undlia, Undrea (pronounced Andre), Wsam, Xiomara, XL,
Yaw,
> > Yuvodka Sharice, Wilida, Zaquan, Zufan, Zyneene.
> >
> > Since appointments mean so little to my clients, I decide each day when
I am
> > available, and tell everyone to show up at the same time. Names are not
the
> > only things blacks do not know. Once when I was filling out a form for a
> > female client I asked if she knew how old her husband was. She told me
she
> > didn't know. I asked her the next question on the form, which was her
> > husband's birth date. Amazingly, she knew it - and was genuinely
surprised
> > when I told her she could figure out her husband's age from his birth
date.
> >
> > When potential clients call for the first time, often the hardest part
is to
> > figure out why they are calling. Usually they begin in the middle of the
> > story. If you let them, they will go on and on, and say nothing. Clients
may
> > call about papers they got in the mail, but never have the papers in
front
> > of them. They may call for information, but never have a pen or pencil
ready
> > to take it down. I have learned to ask direct questions: "What is your
> > name?" "What is the problem?" If a client cannot tell me in three
minutes or
> > less what the problem is, I tell him to come to my office and bring a
small
> > retainer fee. That way at least I will have to listen to their ramblings
> > only if they are prepared to pay.
> >
> > Blacks with whom I have already spoken seem to think I should know
instantly
> > who they are when they telephone. After I get on the line, a typical
> > conversation may go like this:
> >
> > "Who am I speaking to?"
> > "I am your client."
> > "I have many clients, can you tell me which one?"
> > "I am your divorce client."
> > "Can you tell me your name?"
> > "Rufus."
> > "Rufus, can you tell me your last name?"
> >
> > The conversation may go on for some time before I finally figure out who
is
> > calling.
> >
> > I do not take personal injury or product liability cases, but blacks are
> > always asking about bringing suits of this kind: "My vacuum cleaner
broke.
> > Can you help me?"
> >
> > Most of my clients who are not black either show up on time for
appointments
> > or call if they must reschedule. Amazing as this may seem, only about
five
> > percent of my black clients show up on time, and by that I mean within
an
> > hour of the appointed time. Only one in five show up on the appointed
day. A
> > few trickle in a day or two later. Most just never show up. Missing an
> > appointment never embarrasses black people. They call repeatedly for new
> > appointments, making four, five or even six appointments and then miss
them
> > all. I had one client who called more than 50 times before he finally
came
> > to my office. Rarely do I ever get a call from a black client canceling
an
> > appointment.
> >
> > When I first started out as a lawyer I would call clients in advance to
> > remind them of their appointments. They thanked me, but it made them no
more
> > likely to show up. Also, I used to call clients and potential clients
who
> > missed appointments, and try to have them reschedule. This did very
little
> > good. The most common response was, "Why are you calling me?" and it was
> > never their fault that they didn't show up. They had many different
excuses,
> > but I never heard, "I forgot," or "I'm sorry I didn't make it."
> >
> > Since appointments mean so little to my clients, I decide each day when
I am
> > available, and tell everyone to show up at the same time. On Saturday
> > afternoons I can have as many as twenty appointments for the same time.
> > Usually it is not a problem because few show up and even fewer show up
on
> > time. Only once in the last 20 years did everyone show up.
> >
> > Many of my clients are unable to explain even the most basic facts.
Often
> > they must take the witness stand, and no matter how many times we have
gone
> > over the testimony in advance, I can be surprised by what they say. Some
are
> > simply lying and get tangled up in their lies, but most have such low
IQs,
> > they cannot describe even the simplest things. Often they seem to say
the
> > first thing that pops into their heads. When they are questioned further
> > they cannot remember what they said previously.
> >
> > I once had a client whose wife was suing him for child support. In
> > discussions before trial he told me he had two children from a previous
> > marriage. This was favorable for him because it meant he would probably
owe
> > his current wife less money. At trial, his wife testified that my client
had
> > no children outside of their marriage. When I asked him on the stand how
> > many children he had before he married his current wife, he said he had
> > none. Later I asked him why he had answered that way, when he told me
before
> > that he had two other children. "Did I say that?" he asked. I never
found
> > out which version was true.
> >
> > Many of my clients have a hard time following simple directions. Once I
> > appeared in traffic court with a client. In lieu of a conviction he was
to
> > see a traffic safety movie. The courtroom was on the second floor of the
> > courthouse, and the traffic safety movie was shown on the first floor.
The
> > client was to come back to the courtroom with proof - which would be
given
> > him on the firsfloor - that he watched the movie. Both the judge and I
> > explained this to the client. At the designated hour my client did not
come
> > back to the courtroom. Later that afternoon I got a call from the judge,
who
> > told me my client had completely misunderstood the instructions. He went
to
> > the nearest commercial movie house, saw a movie, and brought back his
movie
> > ticket stub.
> >
> > Long ago I stopped asking my clients why they did something. It is not
worth
> > the effort. Most don't know. The ones who know usually cannot give a
> > coherent answer. Even if they can give a coherent answer, it usually
changes
> > every time you ask.
> >
> > For example, one of my black divorce clients tried to hide assets from
his
> > spouse - this is not uncommon. Through discovery it came to light that
he
> > had secretly bought a piece of property after the divorce had begun. He
put
> > his wife's name on the title, a very odd thing to do, since he was
trying to
> > hide the property from her. I made the mistake of asking him why he did
> > that. True to my previous experiences, he could not give an answer that
made
> > sense.
> >
> > Clients sometimes tell me they knew they were being cheated, but signed
the
> > papers anyway. I have given up asking why they signed, because I know I
will
> > not get an intelligible answer.
> >
> > My clients make mistakes in written and spoken English that are often
> > comical. One client in a criminal case told me he was telling the truth,
and
> > was willing to take a "polyester test" to prove it. Another told me he
> > desperately wanted to see me, and needed an appointment "between Tuesday
and
> > Wednesday." One who bounced a check told me the problem was
"insignificant
> > funds" in his account. I have had clients who have "profiteering" plans
at
> > work, want an "uncontestable" divorce (or a "detested" divorce, or an
> > "untested" divorce), had "insects" (incest) in the family, need an
> > "annoyment" (annulment), want a free "flirtation" (consultation), ask
about
> > my "container" (retainer), want to "consultate" about a divorce, or had
to
> > meet with "media people" (mediation counselors). One man told me, "I own
a
> > car but it is not mine," and one who was accused of indecent exposure
> > insisted, "I didn't take my stuff out of my pants."
> >
> > It took me some time to understand certain kinds of black slang. Within
the
> > first month of my independent practice a man called to ask if I could
"put a
> > suitcase on a cat." After much inquiry I realized he wanted to know if I
> > could file a law suit against someone. Within the week I got another
call
> > asking if I "did luggage." Since I now knew about suitcases, I said yes,
I
> > do luggage. I pride myself on doing good work for my clients, but I
cannot
> > remember even once being thanked or complimented by a black client. They
do
> > not observe even the most common courtesies. Also, with rare exceptions,
> > blacks will never admit they made a mistake. When things go wrong, as
they
> > inevitably do, it is always someone else's fault. The most common excuse
> > blacks give is, "They are putting me through the changes." I have yet to
> > figure out exactly what that means.
> >
> > Most people tell lies because they think a lie will help them. I have
come
> > to the conclusion that most of my clients cannot distinguish between a
> > plausible lie and a wild fairy tale. They are convinced people will
believe
> > anything they say. Clients often tell me some fantastic story I cannot
> > possibly defend in court. If I tell them what they are saying is
> > unbelievable the usual reaction is anger and screaming. Typically, they
will
> > add, "I'm paying you. You have to believe what I say."
> >
> > One client was willing to take a "polyester test" to prove he was
telling
> > the truth. Sometimes, despite my warnings, clients will get on the stand
and
> > tell obvious, outright lies. The judge may interrupt the testimony and
tell
> > me to go outside with my client to "get your story straight." They are
not
> > going to sit in court and listen to fairy tales. I take my client
outside
> > and tell him he has got to tell the truth, or at least say something
> > believable. My client then starts screaming. "Why are you talking to me
this
> > way? You're supposed to be on my side."
> >
> > I once had a client testify about his assets in a divorce case, in which
the
> > court was to determine whether he should pay his estranged wife
temporary
> > support. My client was a store-front preacher, and testified that he
lived
> > in the marital residence with his wife, though in separate quarters. His
> > wife testified that he was out living with his "ho." My client went on
and
> > on about how this was impossible because he was a Man of God. I thought
he
> > was lying. The judge ruled that if my client was living with his wife he
> > should share household expenses, which he was not currently paying. At
this
> > point, my client realized there was a cost to pretending to be a Man of
God
> > living with his lawful wife, and changed his tune. "Judge why are you
> > believing me?" he said. "Believe my wife. I am nothing but an old lying
> > nigger." No one in the courtroom could stop laughing.
> >
> > OUTSIDE KIDS
> >
> > "Outside kid" cases are one of my specialties. For those not in the
know,
> > blacks call any child born out of wedlock an outside kid. Black men are
good
> > at making children but not at supporting them, and this can be a
terrible
> > burden under laws written with white people in mind.
> >
> > In my state, the parent who does not have custody - almost always the
> > father - pays a percentage of net income to the parent with custody -
almost
> > always the mother. The mother gets 20 percent of the father's net income
for
> > the first child, 25 percent for two children, and up to 50 percent for
five
> > or more children. What if a man has children by several women? Each
mother
> > gets 20 percent for the first child, so a man with five children by five
> > different women is supposed to be paying 100 percent of his income in
child
> > support. I once had a client who had 12 different children by 10
different
> > women. Theoretically, he owed 250 percent of his income. These laws
simply
> > don't make sense for blacks. Judges have to decide each case as best
they
> > can.
> >
> > Not surprisingly, the average black client will not pay child support
unless
> > it is deducted from his paycheck. Many refuse to work, or leave a job to
> > avoid paying. Job turnover is very high among blacks, and the court
system
> > has a hard time keeping up with them. Some blacks quit on purpose, and
move
> > to another job so as to keep one step ahead of the collections.
> >
> > Whenever I ask a potential client whether he has paid court-ordered
child
> > support he will almost invariably answer with one or more of the
following:
> > "I always helps my kids." "I gives the mother money whenever she asks."
"I
> > am always there for my kids." "I buys my kids whatever they needs." It
> > almost always turns out they have paid no support, haven't seen their
> > children in years, and at best may have paid for some basketball shoes.
> >
> > Children do not always seem to have the same importance for blacks that
they
> > do for whites. I was in bankruptcy court once waiting for my client's
case
> > to be called. A black debtor - not my client - was before the judge
trying
> > to convince him to approve his bankruptcy repayment plan. The judge told
him
> > he could not afford both his Cadillac and his children, and had to give
up
> > one or the other. The debtor immediately said he could not give up his
car,
> > and therefore the judge would have to take his kids. The judge threw up
his
> > hands and walked off the bench. On another occasion, the same bankruptcy
> > judge told a black debtor he could not afford both his Cadillac and his
> > house. The debtor replied, "You can live in your car but you can't drive
> > your house. Take my house." This was many years ago and tastes in cars
may
> > have changed, but I learned how important Cadillacs were to blacks.
> >
> > In one respect my job is very different from that of a policeman or
social
> > worker: I have to make sure I am paid. I try to get paid in full before
I
> > agree to represent a client. If I am not paid in full before the case is
> > over I know I will never get any more money. Clients have a hard time
> > understanding they are paying for an attorney's time. Invariably, if a
> > client drops a case before it is over he asks for a full refund. Their
> > reasoning goes something like this: "I paid for a divorce and I didn't
get
> > one, so I should get all my money back."
> >
> > Once I sued a client who didn't pay me.I finally garnished his wages and
was
> > paid in full. About six months later he called to ask me to take his
next
> > case. I told him I didn't want a client that doesn't pay his bills. He
> > became indignant. He said I got all my money, so what did I have to
complain
> > about.
> >
> > To hear my clients tell it, banks are constantly "messing" with their
> > checking accounts. At least that is what they tell me when their checks
> > bounce. Most of my clients do not have checking accounts, and pay cash.
The
> > ones who do have accounts have no idea how much money is in them. Many
> > clients have written me checks on accounts that were closed.
> >
> > Black clients yell and scream at me every day; I have learned that this
is
> > normal. They are like young children who don't get their way. I usually
> > ignore these outbursts, though screaming back at them is usually more
> > effective. I have been threatened with physical violence only twice, and
> > once I had to call the police to escort a client out of my office.
> >
> > My experience is hardly unique. Most of the lawyers I know have
practices
> > similar to mine. Most lawyers therefore are racial realists even if they
do
> > not admit it openly. Their actions and comments are no different from
mine.
> > People who have daily contact with minorities, who know first-hand that
> > there are racial differences, are likely to be the best prospects for
any
> > movement that promotes racial consciousness. They don't like dealing
with
> > blacks, but that is simply part of the business. If they can't take it
> > anymore they get into some other line of work.
> >
> > One lawyer I know moved to the country so he would have white clients.
He
> > had lived in the big city all his life, but was willing to pull up all
his
> > roots to get a different clientele.
> >
> > Recently the supreme court in my state ruled that a lawyer can be
> > disciplined for communications that racially denigrate litigants. For
that
> > reason I cannot write this article under my own name, much as I would
like
> > to. I must hide behind a pseudonym for fear of falling victim to our
> > politically-correct supreme court.
> >
> > Donald Williamson practices law in the Midwest.
>
> But dey bees Gawds chillen.
>
> Charles
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