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Re: U.S. soldiers killed, mutilated by crowd of Iraqis

#1034
From: Jonathan Ball
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:51
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Eddie wrote:

>>>Not true.  Modern Urban legend
>>>see:
>>>http://www.nytimes.com/pages/world/worldspecial/index.html
>>
>>Not "urban legend".  It's what was reported earlier, 
>>and not all of it has been disavowed.  From the page 
>>you link:
>>
>>   The New York Times reported in its Monday issue that
>>   the throats of the two soldiers had been slashed,
>>   quoting the same military official.
>>
>>That the military official is now revising his story 
>>doesn't make the previous version "urban legend"; it 
>>just makes it wrong.  The official stands by the claim 
>>that the bodies were looted of the soldiers' personal 
>>belongings.
> 
> What military "official?"  I have been at the scene of hundreds of
> MVA's (that's motor vehicle accidents to you) and personally saw,
> secured, and investigate the scenes.  The next day the papers would
> print from "reliable official" sources of course, two died (only one
> died) 4 injured (only two injured) three cars involved (was only two)
> five witnesses stepped forward (I only saw three) it happened at the
> corner of A and B streets (it was on the corner of C and D streets) it
> happened around 3 pm (it happened at 2pm) etc etc etc etc 
> Two days later corrections in the 4th section, bottom of the 10th
> page, small print.
> 
>>One might question how the first version was released, 
>>BY THE MILITARY OFFICIAL, in the first place.  However, 
>>it wouldn't appear to be in order to stir up anger in 
>>the readership, as the story makes clear that the last 
>>time American soldiers' bodies were mutilated, it led 
>>to the withdrawal of our troops.
> 
> I'm confused here.

You sure are!

> You say that the "military official" purposely
> falsified his report

No, I didn't.

> in order that readers would get angry and
> eventually lead to withdrawal of troops out of Iraq?

No.  In fact, if you knew how to read, you'd see that's 
completely OPPOSITE to what I said.

> That military
> official (if he actually exists) must be hallucinating if he thinks
> the U.S. is going to withdraw over 100,000 fully armed and supplied
> soldiers because of the death of two soldiers, however tragic their
> deaths were.

U.S. forces were completely withdrawn from Somalia when 
the 18 soldiers were killed, mutilated and their bodies 
dragged through the streets.

> This ain't no way, no how, not even close to being a
> Somalia scenario!

At some point, it may well become very much like it. 
It could already be a lot closer to it than you think. 
  You're in no position to know.

< For one thing, it was Clinton in charge back then,
> remember?

Irrelevant.

> Bush is not going to run!

We'll see.  He sure looks like one scared doggy to me, 
right now.
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