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Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Garth
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New York Daily News Thursday, October 2nd, 2003 Rush Limbaugh in pill probe By TRACY CONNOR DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Talk-radio titan Rush Limbaugh is being investigated for allegedly buying thousands of addictive painkillers from a black-market drug ring. The moralizing motormouth was turned in by his former housekeeper - who says she was Limbaugh's pill supplier for four years. Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was hooked on the potent prescription drugs OxyContin, Lorcet and hydrocodone - and went through detox twice. "There were times when I worried," Cline told the National Enquirer, which broke the story in an edition being published today. "All these pills are enough to kill an elephant - never mind a man." Cline could not be reached for further comment yesterday, but her lawyer, Ed Shohat of Miami, said his client "stands behind the story." The Daily News independently confirmed that Limbaugh is under investigation. His lawyers, Jerry Fox and Dan Zachary, refused to comment on the accusations and said any "medical information" about him was private and not newsworthy. They said Limbaugh - who has a top-rated syndicated radio show but resigned early today from a weekly ESPN football segment amid criticism of racial comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb - was traveling and had no comment. The Palm Beach County state attorney's office, which is running the probe, said it could not confirm or deny the allegations. Scoring in parking lot Cline told the Enquirer she went to prosecutors with information about Limbaugh and others after four years of drug deals that included clandestine handoffs in a Denny's parking lot. She said she wore a wire during her last two deliveries to the conservative commentator and gave the tapes to authorities. She also gave the Enquirer a ledger documenting how many pills she claimed to have bought for him - 4,350 in one 47-day period - and E-mails she claimed Limbaugh sent her. In one missive, Limbaugh pushed Cline to get more "little blues" - code for OxyContin, the powerful narcotic nicknamed hillbilly heroin, she said. "You know how this stuff works ... the more you get used to, the more it takes," the May 2002 E-mail reads. "But I will try and cut down to help out." The account Cline gave the Enquirer is that she became Limbaugh's drug connection in 1998, nine months after taking a housekeeping job at his Palm Beach mansion. It started after her husband, David, hurt himself in a fall, and Limbaugh asked how he was. "He asked me casually, 'Is he getting any pain medication?' I said, 'Yes - he's had surgery, and the doctor gave him hydro-codone 750,'" Cline said. "To my astonishment, he said, 'Can you spare a couple of them?'" Husband's pills Cline said she gave Limbaugh 10 pills the next day and agreed to give him 30 of her husband's pills each month. When the doctor stopped renewing the prescription in early 1999, Limbaugh allegedly went ballistic. "His tone was nasty and bullying. He said, 'I don't care how or what you do, but you'd better - better! - get me some more,'" Cline said. The housekeeper said she found a new supplier and arranged to hide Limbaugh's stashes under his mattress so his wife, Marta, wouldn't find them. After several months, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox and didn't need any more pills, Cline said. But a month later, he said his left ear was hurting and asked her for hydrocodone, followed by an order for OxyContin. Limbaugh, 52, suffered from autoimmune ear disease, a condition that left him deaf and had to be corrected with cochlear implant surgery two years ago. Cline said she continued to make deliveries to Limbaugh even after she quit as his housekeeper in July 2001 - but he became increasingly paranoid, even patting her down for recording devices, she said. In June 2002, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox a second time. After he returned, "I went to talk to him, and he cried a little bit," she said. "He told me that if it ever got out, he would be ruined." She claimed that a lawyer for Limbaugh gave her a payoff - $80,000 he owed her, plus another $120,000 - and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the E-mail records. Soon after, Cline and her husband retained Shohat and contacted prosecutors. ---------------------------- Feeling no pain The drugs Rush Limbaugh is accused of abusing are legal only with a doctor's prescription. All are habit-forming. Hydrocodone Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness. Lorcet Brand name for the combination of Tylenol and hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching. OxyContin Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. A large dose can be fatal. ==========================================================
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Al Lewis
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 04:02
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:29:30 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> >JMartin wrote: >> >> When I was a meter reader, I had a truck that only got AM radio. I was >> stuck with either a fuzzy country station or KFI out of LA. I usually chose >> KFI. >> >> When Rush Limbaugh came on, I either turned it off or made do with the >> country station. >> >> It's a shame that I have to even see his name in misc.rural. >> >> Jena > >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. Why am I not surprised at this comment?
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Al Lewis
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 04:05
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 04:05
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 17:51:30 +0200, Eric Johnson <erj66@xs4all.nl> >On 04-10-2003 16:17, in article 8hltnvkg8t2sm5gptt0vb04urff3kpoac2@4ax.com, >"Lou Scannon" <scannon@lmountain.com> wrote: > >> On 3 Oct 2003 15:37:11 -0700, tallgrassprairie@earthlink.net >> (Tallgrass) wrote: >> >>> "JMartin" <antares1947@comwares.net> wrote in message >>> news:<blifni$dgi$0@12.166.20.62>... >>>> When I was a meter reader, I had a truck that only got AM radio. I was >>>> stuck with either a fuzzy country station or KFI out of LA. I usually chose >>>> KFI. >>>> >>>> When Rush Limbaugh came on, I either turned it off or made do with the >>>> country station. >>>> >>>> It's a shame that I have to even see his name in misc.rural. >>>> >>>> Jena >>> >>> Now, at least, we know what has fueled his vitriolic opinions all this >>> time....he was out of narcotics!! >>> >>> Linda H. >> >> >> Think he'll want to live by his own words? >> >> Rush Oct. 5, 1995, >> >> "if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be >> accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up." >> > >No. He or the situation will be different in some concrete way as to let him >slip out. >However, if the right loses rush as a force in their favor, things would >change in favor of democrats. > You're mistaken there, EJ. Rush only appeals to a small smegment of society who already has their minds made up already. Rush is a symptom of Repugnicanism, not a force behind it. >He will -never- accept, even if all is true which I sincerely doubt(4000+ >pills in a 10 day period), that he is anything like a common pot smoker. > >EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Jeffraham Prestonian
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:00
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:00
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"Al Lewis" <big@boss.man> wrote > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:29:30 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> > >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > Why am I not surprised at this comment? Al, I gotta tell ya... when I ran my dumbass meter past John Nada's comments above, the needle wrapped around the stop, and the glass shattered. Anyone know a good dumbass meter repair shop? -Touc
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:52
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:52
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Al Lewis wrote: > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:29:30 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> > > >JMartin wrote: > >> > >> When I was a meter reader, I had a truck that only got AM radio. I was > >> stuck with either a fuzzy country station or KFI out of LA. I usually chose > >> KFI. > >> > >> When Rush Limbaugh came on, I either turned it off or made do with the > >> country station. > >> > >> It's a shame that I have to even see his name in misc.rural. > >> > >> Jena > > > >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > > Why am I not surprised at this comment? Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Peter H. Proctor
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:54
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:54
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> wrote: >Al Lewis wrote: >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >> >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? > >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of gummit programs, the War on Drugs... PHP
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:04
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"Peter H. Proctor" wrote: > Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > gummit programs, the War on Drugs... Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Bill Mcdonald
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:11
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I think the most important thing he said was this comment: ""There may be more than you want to know about this, you can believe and trust me on that." I doubt he'll be hauled away in flexcuffs but when the smoke clears I believe he'll have been taken down several pegs. If his ratings take a hit and if his megamillion $ contract he recently signed contains a morals clause, he may be on thin ice indeed. You'll know he's in serious trouble when he quits dropping names like his good buddy "Mr. Justice Clarence Thomas" who I bet probably will stop taking his calls very soon. This is what happens when you get a little too big for your britches. Sorry no pun intended. Bill Mcdonald in Joshua Tree. Olympus E-10, Olympus IS-3 DLX. ICQ#138329143. http://community.webshots.com/user/morongobill
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Larry Smith
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:30
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:30
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"Peter H. Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message news:b0c0ovss9qd9gu05292ed2a6iel61k3c1o@4ax.com... > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> > wrote: > > >Al Lewis wrote: > > >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > >> > >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? > > > >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > > Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > > PHP > Right Wing, thy name is hypocrisy.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:33
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:33
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On 05-10-2003 16:54, in article b0c0ovss9qd9gu05292ed2a6iel61k3c1o@4ax.com, "Peter H. Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote: > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> > wrote: > >> Al Lewis wrote: > >>>> You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >>>> That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >>> >>> Why am I not surprised at this comment? >> >> Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > > Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > > PHP > This could be a turning point, either way, in the WOsD. EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:35
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:35
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On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: >> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > > Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. He hasn't surrendered. EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: The_right_wing
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:44
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:44
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:54:04 -0500, Peter H. Proctor <drp@drproctor.com> wrote: >On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> >wrote: > >>Al Lewis wrote: > >>> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >>> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >>> >>> Why am I not surprised at this comment? >> >>Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > >Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > >PHP His uses, or overuse, may have contributed to his loss of hearing.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Al Lewis
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:49
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:49
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> >Al Lewis wrote: >> >> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 20:29:30 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> >> >> >JMartin wrote: >> >> >> >> When I was a meter reader, I had a truck that only got AM radio. I was >> >> stuck with either a fuzzy country station or KFI out of LA. I usually chose >> >> KFI. >> >> >> >> When Rush Limbaugh came on, I either turned it off or made do with the >> >> country station. >> >> >> >> It's a shame that I have to even see his name in misc.rural. >> >> >> >> Jena >> > >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >> >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? > >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:57
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:57
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Al Lewis wrote: > >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > >> > >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? > > > >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > > Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. I would be surprised if you wrote anything vaguely intelligent or humorous. Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Jasbird
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:59
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:59
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:57:22 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> wrote: >Al Lewis wrote: > >> >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >> >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >> >> >> >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? >> > >> >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. >> >> Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. > >I would be surprised if you wrote anything >vaguely intelligent or humorous. >Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the >blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. I'd be surprised if you wrote something vaguely intelligent. Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults?
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 23:52
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 23:52
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Jasbird wrote: > >> >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >> >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > >> >> > >> >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? > >> > > >> >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > >> > >> Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. > > > >I would be surprised if you wrote anything > >vaguely intelligent or humorous. > >Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > >blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. > > I'd be surprised if you wrote something vaguely intelligent. How original, kornholer. Did you make that up? > Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults? You like them enough to use them, eh, kornholer. Now, try to post something original...Bhwaaaaaa!!!
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:38
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Jasbird wrote: > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:57:22 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> > wrote: > > >>Al Lewis wrote: >> >> >>>>>>You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >>>>>>That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >>>>> >>>>>Why am I not surprised at this comment? >>>> >>>>Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. >>> >>>Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. >> >>I would be surprised if you wrote anything >>vaguely intelligent or humorous. >>Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the >>blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. > > > I'd be surprised if you wrote something vaguely intelligent. > > Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults? It's a monologue, not a dialogue.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Peter H. Proctor
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:32
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:11:09 GMT, morongobill@excite.com (Bill Mcdonald) wrote: >You'll know he's in serious trouble when he quits dropping names like >his good buddy "Mr. Justice Clarence Thomas" who I bet probably will >stop taking his calls very soon. Justice Rhenquist had a similar drug problem. Dr P
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:01
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Eric Johnson wrote: > > On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: > >> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > >> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > > > > Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. > > He hasn't surrendered. You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which you have no empirical support. Big difference.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:02
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Larry Smith wrote: > > "Peter H. Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message > news:b0c0ovss9qd9gu05292ed2a6iel61k3c1o@4ax.com... > > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> > > wrote: > > > > >Al Lewis wrote: > > > > >> >You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > > >> >That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > > >> > > >> Why am I not surprised at this comment? > > > > > >Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > > > > Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > > gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > > > > PHP > > > > Right Wing, thy name is hypocrisy. It is interesting how the tide has turned in this group. Two years ago there were perhaps two or three people who were willing to take a stance against the right wing but these days the numbers appear much greater. I wonder what happened along the way?
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:05
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The_right_wing@truth.com wrote: > His uses, or overuse, may have contributed to his loss of hearing. Actually it probably happened the other way around. From some of the things I have read, the condition that caused his deafness were also associated with a fair amount of persistent pain. I am about to do a very rare thing though. I am going to raise a question of doubt on this issue. This guy is a millionaire - if he wanted the pills bad enough I would think he would have the resources to convince some doctor to write a script for whatever he wanted. Even "ethical" doctors can be bought for a price. That being the case, why would he resort to the illegal drug market? Is there something I'm missing here?
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:22
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Murky Pooper wrote: > >>>>>>You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >>>>>>That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > >>>>> > >>>>>Why am I not surprised at this comment? > >>>> > >>>>Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > >>> > >>>Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. > >> > >>I would be surprised if you wrote anything > >>vaguely intelligent or humorous. > >>Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > >>blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. > > > > > > I'd be surprised if you wrote something vaguely intelligent. > > > > Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults? > > It's a monologue, not a dialogue. You may have something there. You and your fellow kornholers bring nothing to the table. Keep plucking away though. It keeps you off the NAMBLA sites for a little bit.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:35
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On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > Eric Johnson wrote: >> >> On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: >>>> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >>>> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... >>> >>> Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. >> >> He hasn't surrendered. > > You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my > statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which > you have no empirical support. Big difference. If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be all over the news if it had taken place. And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:37
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:37
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On 06-10-2003 06:02, in article 3F80E949.42A7EEC2@yahoo.com, "KStahl" <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > Larry Smith wrote: >> >> "Peter H. Proctor" <drp@drproctor.com> wrote in message >> news:b0c0ovss9qd9gu05292ed2a6iel61k3c1o@4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:52:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Al Lewis wrote: >>> >>>>>> You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >>>>>> That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >>>>> >>>>> Why am I not surprised at this comment? >>>> >>>> Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. >>> >>> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >>> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... >>> >>> PHP >>> >> >> Right Wing, thy name is hypocrisy. > > It is interesting how the tide has turned in this group. Two years ago > there were perhaps two or three people who were willing to take a stance > against the right wing but these days the numbers appear much greater. I > wonder what happened along the way? We are tired of war. The Patriot act and the Victory act and John Ashcroft arresting paraplegics at gun point in California. EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:39
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 07:39
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On 06-10-2003 06:05, in article 3F80EA0D.817DBCB1@yahoo.com, "KStahl" <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > The_right_wing@truth.com wrote: >> His uses, or overuse, may have contributed to his loss of hearing. > > Actually it probably happened the other way around. From some of the > things I have read, the condition that caused his deafness were also > associated with a fair amount of persistent pain. > > I am about to do a very rare thing though. I am going to raise a > question of doubt on this issue. This guy is a millionaire - if he > wanted the pills bad enough I would think he would have the resources to > convince some doctor to write a script for whatever he wanted. Even > "ethical" doctors can be bought for a price. That being the case, why > would he resort to the illegal drug market? Is there something I'm > missing here? Yes, there is critical information missing. EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:53
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Eric Johnson wrote: > > On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Eric Johnson wrote: > >> > >> On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > >> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>> "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: > >>>> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > >>>> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > >>> > >>> Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. > >> > >> He hasn't surrendered. > > > > You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my > > statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which > > you have no empirical support. Big difference. > > If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be > all over the news if it had taken place. > > And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. > > EJ Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you will do the same.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:59
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George Willer wrote: > > It's another sign of the general dumbing down. Some of us still "get it", > but in general the group is being taken over by pinko socialists. > > George Willer > > It is interesting how the tide has turned in this group. Two years ago > there were perhaps two or three people who were willing to take a stance > against the right wing but these days the numbers appear much greater. I > wonder what happened along the way? "Get it"? That's just it. The conservatives don't "get it" that the right wing path is one of isolation, belligerence, dissolution of civil rights, funding of wars rather than funding of education, large government, police state tactics and high unemployment. Neither side really knows how to compromise any more to come up with a reasonable way of serving the populace and both sides shroud everything in secrecy lest their smoke-filled-room sessions become common knowledge or their operatives are ham-strung by concepts such as honor and integrity.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: KStahl
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:05
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Eric Johnson wrote: > > On 06-10-2003 06:05, in article 3F80EA0D.817DBCB1@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The_right_wing@truth.com wrote: > >> His uses, or overuse, may have contributed to his loss of hearing. > > > > Actually it probably happened the other way around. From some of the > > things I have read, the condition that caused his deafness were also > > associated with a fair amount of persistent pain. > > > > I am about to do a very rare thing though. I am going to raise a > > question of doubt on this issue. This guy is a millionaire - if he > > wanted the pills bad enough I would think he would have the resources to > > convince some doctor to write a script for whatever he wanted. Even > > "ethical" doctors can be bought for a price. That being the case, why > > would he resort to the illegal drug market? Is there something I'm > > missing here? > > Yes, there is critical information missing. > > EJ If Limbaugh had any integrity and honor, he would simply come out and say that he screwed up or show that there is no substance to the charge. Even if it can be demonstrated that he knew Cline was dealing is drugs and did not turn her in, he is guilty of racketeering even if he never bought a single pill himself. Oh but the sweet beauty is that this gives him a whole new topic to talk about and hopefully he'll get so involved in it that he won't have time for liberal bashing. Even Kim Peterson said something on Friday to the effect that he was glad not to be in Rush's shoes and Peterson is one of the more mild ones and has at least a bit of decorum.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:30
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On 06-10-2003 11:53, in article 3F813BAB.28898869@yahoo.com, "KStahl" <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > Eric Johnson wrote: >> >> On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Eric Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>> On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >>>> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: >>>>>> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >>>>>> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... >>>>> >>>>> Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. >>>> >>>> He hasn't surrendered. >>> >>> You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my >>> statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which >>> you have no empirical support. Big difference. >> >> If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be >> all over the news if it had taken place. >> >> And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. >> >> EJ > > Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of > the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around > drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to > become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender > and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I > spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also > applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It > was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was > misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you > will do the same. I won't accept your tortured definition of surrendered, as it means that you believe you are better than other, "weaker," people because you have not "surrendered." The whole context of surrender in the discussion is about Rush telling the truth (which I believe won't show drug abuse). EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Elmo
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:21
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KStahl wrote: > George Willer wrote: > >>It's another sign of the general dumbing down. Some of us still "get it", >>but in general the group is being taken over by pinko socialists. >> >>George Willer >> >>It is interesting how the tide has turned in this group. Two years ago >>there were perhaps two or three people who were willing to take a stance >>against the right wing but these days the numbers appear much greater. I >>wonder what happened along the way? > > > "Get it"? That's just it. The conservatives don't "get it" that the > right wing path is one of isolation, belligerence, dissolution of civil > rights, funding of wars rather than funding of education, large > government, police state tactics and high unemployment. Neither side > really knows how to compromise any more to come up with a reasonable way > of serving the populace and both sides shroud everything in secrecy lest > their smoke-filled-room sessions become common knowledge or their > operatives are ham-strung by concepts such as honor and integrity. You left out: Running up huge deficits to force cutbacks of them damn librul programs like Social Security, Medicare, environmental protection, etc.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:29
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KStahl wrote: > > It is interesting how the tide has turned in this group. Two years ago > there were perhaps two or three people who were willing to take a stance > against the right wing but these days the numbers appear much greater. I > wonder what happened along the way? Your dementia got worse.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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KStahl wrote: > > The_right_wing@truth.com wrote: > > His uses, or overuse, may have contributed to his loss of hearing. > > Actually it probably happened the other way around. From some of the > things I have read, the condition that caused his deafness were also > associated with a fair amount of persistent pain. > > I am about to do a very rare thing though. I am going to raise a > question of doubt on this issue. This guy is a millionaire - if he > wanted the pills bad enough I would think he would have the resources to > convince some doctor to write a script for whatever he wanted. Even > "ethical" doctors can be bought for a price. That being the case, why > would he resort to the illegal drug market? Is there something I'm > missing here? Your brain, kornholer.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Al Lewis wrote: > >> > Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults? > >> > >> It's a monologue, not a dialogue. > > > >You may have something there. > >You and your fellow kornholers bring nothing to the table. > >Keep plucking away though. > >It keeps you off the NAMBLA sites for a little bit. > > What exactly have you brought to the table in this thread? > > "Eat shit, pussyboy." > > "You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush." > > "Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer." > > "I would be surprised if you wrote anything > vaguely intelligent or humorous. > Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes." > > "I would be surprised if you wrote anything > vaguely intelligent or humorous. > Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes." > > "Bhwaaaaaa!!!" > > "Kornholer. Cocksucker. Pussyboy." > > "Bullshit. > Liberal kornholers will believe anything." > You seem obsessed with hornholers, cocksuckers and pussyboys. I just reply to you and yours, kornholer. Hardly an obsession, but feel free to lie away. This is usenet: midnight basketball for socialist kornholers.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Murky Cooper wrote: > > George Willer wrote: > > > It's another sign of the general dumbing down. Some of us still "get it", > > but in general the group is being taken over by pinko socialists. > > > > George Willer > > > > It is interesting how the tide has turned in this group. Two years ago > > there were perhaps two or three people who were willing to take a stance > > against the right wing but these days the numbers appear much greater. I > > wonder what happened along the way? > > Who cares? All that matters is, more people took > stances against right wing maniacs. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, eh, kornholer? Stall writes a big lie and your dumbass believes it. Typical liberal dementia. They believe any lies that come out of their pie hole. > In case you're curious, I like it when people take > stances against extremist maniacs of any persuasion. I bet you think Hitlery is a moderate, eh, kornholer?
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:22
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KStahl wrote: > Eric Johnson wrote: > >>On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >><ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Eric Johnson wrote: >>> >>>>On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >>>><ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Peter H. Proctor" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >>>>>>gummit programs, the War on Drugs... >>>>> >>>>>Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. >>>> >>>>He hasn't surrendered. >>> >>>You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my >>>statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which >>>you have no empirical support. Big difference. >> >>If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be >>all over the news if it had taken place. >> >>And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. >> >>EJ > > > Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of > the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around > drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to > become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender > and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I > spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also > applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It > was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was > misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you > will do the same. I don't accept your tortured definition of "surrender", either. In fact, it's nonsense. The "war on drugs" is not being waged primarily against drug users, although plenty of the are victims of the misguided, expensive, ineffectual pseudo-"war". The war is being waged primarily against drug producers, distributors and retailers, i.e., against the supply chain. The intent of the foolish "war on drugs" is to stop the distribution and consumption of "illicit" drugs. In that context, a surrender can mean one of two things: a) a supplier stops supplying; b) a user stops using. The tortured meaning you gave is exactly the opposite of b), and is a nonsense meaning. The involvement of the fascist loudmouth Limbaugh in illegal drugs is just another example of the hypocrisy of finger-wagging extremists. That there's something to this is beyond doubt, based on the fascist swine's statement to the "folks" about there being more to this than they'll want to know.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:58
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Lou Scannon wrote: > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:46:50 -0700, Al Lewis <big@boss.man> wrote: > > >>On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 23:22:16 -0500, "Nada, John" <shades@gotemon.com> >> >> >>>Murky Pooper wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. >>>>>>>>>>That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Why am I not surprised at this comment? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. >>>>>> >>>>>>I would be surprised if you wrote anything >>>>>>vaguely intelligent or humorous. >>>>>>Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the >>>>>>blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I'd be surprised if you wrote something vaguely intelligent. >>>>> >>>>>Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults? >>>> >>>>It's a monologue, not a dialogue. >>> >>>You may have something there. >>>You and your fellow kornholers bring nothing to the table. >>>Keep plucking away though. >>>It keeps you off the NAMBLA sites for a little bit. >> >>What exactly have you brought to the table in this thread? >> >>"Eat shit, pussyboy." >> >>"You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush." >> >>"Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer." >> >>"I would be surprised if you wrote anything >>vaguely intelligent or humorous. >>Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the >>blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes." >> >>"I would be surprised if you wrote anything >>vaguely intelligent or humorous. >>Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the >>blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes." >> >>"Bhwaaaaaa!!!" >> >>"Kornholer. Cocksucker. Pussyboy." >> >>"Bullshit. >>Liberal kornholers will believe anything." >> >>You seem obsessed with hornholers, cocksuckers and pussyboys. > > > That tells you where he's coming from, doesn't it? Tells you exactly what he is. Don't forget that J. Edgar Hoover, ostensibly a rigidly conservative moralizer, was boning young boys his whole adult life. John Nada is very aptly named.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Eric Johnson
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:34
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On 06-10-2003 17:22, in article aNfgb.159$dn6.46@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Murray Cooper" <chuck@up.chuck> wrote: > KStahl wrote: > >> Eric Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >>> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Eric Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >>>>> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >>>>>>> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... >>>>>> >>>>>> Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. >>>>> >>>>> He hasn't surrendered. >>>> >>>> You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my >>>> statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which >>>> you have no empirical support. Big difference. >>> >>> If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be >>> all over the news if it had taken place. >>> >>> And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. >>> >>> EJ >> >> >> Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of >> the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around >> drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to >> become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender >> and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I >> spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also >> applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It >> was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was >> misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you >> will do the same. > > I don't accept your tortured definition of "surrender", > either. In fact, it's nonsense. The "war on drugs" is > not being waged primarily against drug users, although > plenty of the are victims of the misguided, expensive, > ineffectual pseudo-"war". The war is being waged > primarily against drug producers, distributors and > retailers, i.e., against the supply chain. > > The intent of the foolish "war on drugs" is to stop the > distribution and consumption of "illicit" drugs. In > that context, a surrender can mean one of two things: > a) a supplier stops supplying; b) a user stops using. > The tortured meaning you gave is exactly the opposite > of b), and is a nonsense meaning. > > The involvement of the fascist loudmouth Limbaugh in > illegal drugs is just another example of the hypocrisy > of finger-wagging extremists. That there's something > to this is beyond doubt, based on the fascist swine's > statement to the "folks" about there being more to this > than they'll want to know. > I agree that statement was tailor-made to draw all kinds of sexy speculation, but I remain to be convinced. EJ
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Guido Marx
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:41
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Eric Johnson <erj66@xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:<BBA710EC.2E654%erj66@xs4all.nl>... > On 06-10-2003 11:53, in article 3F813BAB.28898869@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Eric Johnson wrote: > >> > >> On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > >> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Eric Johnson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" > >>>> <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> "Peter H. Proctor" wrote: > >>>>>> Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of > >>>>>> gummit programs, the War on Drugs... > >>>>> > >>>>> Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. > >>>> > >>>> He hasn't surrendered. > >>> > >>> You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my > >>> statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which > >>> you have no empirical support. Big difference. > >> > >> If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be > >> all over the news if it had taken place. > >> > >> And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. > >> > >> EJ > > > > Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of > > the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around > > drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to > > become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender > > and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I > > spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also > > applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It > > was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was > > misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you > > will do the same. > > > I won't accept your tortured definition of surrendered, as it means that you > believe you are better than other, "weaker," people because you have not > "surrendered." > > The whole context of surrender in the discussion is about Rush telling the > truth (which I believe won't show drug abuse). Eric - the man was doing drugs like Elvis. Guido
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 16:56
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Eric Johnson wrote: > On 06-10-2003 17:22, in article > aNfgb.159$dn6.46@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Murray Cooper" > <chuck@up.chuck> wrote: > > >>KStahl wrote: >> >> >>>Eric Johnson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On 06-10-2003 06:01, in article 3F80E902.E7974B3C@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >>>><ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Eric Johnson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On 05-10-2003 17:04, in article 3F803308.31AFD2D4@yahoo.com, "KStahl" >>>>>><ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>"Peter H. Proctor" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ironic, that Rush has been caught up in that most socialist of >>>>>>>>gummit programs, the War on Drugs... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Except that perhaps he didn't give up a fight - just surrendered. >>>>>> >>>>>>He hasn't surrendered. >>>>> >>>>>You know this from first hand, personal experience? I caveated my >>>>>statement with "perhaps", you are attempting to state a fact for which >>>>>you have no empirical support. Big difference. >>>> >>>>If he had "surrendered, " which would mean turning himself in. This would be >>>>all over the news if it had taken place. >>>> >>>>And as Dr. Proctor has said, lack of evidence is evidence in itself. >>>> >>>>EJ >>> >>> >>>Wrong use of the word surrendered. Context is everything. The topic of >>>the "war on drugs" was raised. The one in which the battle is around >>>drug use. In that war there are people who resist the temptation to >>>become a victim of the war and then there are those who just surrender >>>and join the millions of drug abusers. That was the "surrendered" I >>>spoke of. It is only by coincidence that the word "surrendered" also >>>applies to a person turning themselves in when accused of a crime. It >>>was a terse attempt at oblique humor. So oblique that the intent was >>>misunderstood. I'll take half the blame for the misunderstanding if you >>>will do the same. >> >>I don't accept your tortured definition of "surrender", >>either. In fact, it's nonsense. The "war on drugs" is >>not being waged primarily against drug users, although >>plenty of the are victims of the misguided, expensive, >>ineffectual pseudo-"war". The war is being waged >>primarily against drug producers, distributors and >>retailers, i.e., against the supply chain. >> >>The intent of the foolish "war on drugs" is to stop the >>distribution and consumption of "illicit" drugs. In >>that context, a surrender can mean one of two things: >>a) a supplier stops supplying; b) a user stops using. >>The tortured meaning you gave is exactly the opposite >>of b), and is a nonsense meaning. >> >>The involvement of the fascist loudmouth Limbaugh in >>illegal drugs is just another example of the hypocrisy >>of finger-wagging extremists. That there's something >>to this is beyond doubt, based on the fascist swine's >>statement to the "folks" about there being more to this >>than they'll want to know. >> > > I agree that statement was tailor-made to draw all kinds of sexy > speculation, but I remain to be convinced. The fat pompous windbag Limbaugh *loves* to be the center of speculation, and he also *loves* to pretend to have all kinds of juicy insider information that he "can't" share with the "folks", but I can't believe he'd say a thing like that when he has nothing at all. Recall that someone else has said (whined, if I remember correctly) that the announcement of Limbaugh's involvement in this was revealed publicly before telling Limbaugh himself (and his attorneys). It's anyone's guess what he knew by the time he made that comment, but he at least knew there's something to the investigation.
Re: Rush Limbaugh, closet pill-popper, in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 19:22
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Nada, John wrote: > Messy Pooper wrote: > > >>>>"Bullshit. >>>>Liberal kornholers will believe anything." > > >>>That tells you where he's coming from, doesn't it? >> >>Tells you exactly what he is. Don't forget that J. >>Edgar Hoover, ostensibly a rigidly conservative >>moralizer, was boning young boys his whole adult life. > > > More from the lefty bag of lies. Not "lefty", stupid fat fuck. Hoover and Clyde Tolson were as queer as three dollar bills. > > >> John Nada is very aptly named. > > > Yes. Yes: John Nothing.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
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Nothing, John wrote: [nothing, as usual] Fix your system clock, Nothing, you stupid fat fuck. It's an hour fast.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Messy Pooper wrote: > >>"Bullshit. > >>Liberal kornholers will believe anything." > > That tells you where he's coming from, doesn't it? > > Tells you exactly what he is. Don't forget that J. > Edgar Hoover, ostensibly a rigidly conservative > moralizer, was boning young boys his whole adult life. More from the lefty bag of lies. None of that is true. Try to prove it, kornholer. You can't. Are you really that stupid, Messy Pooper? > John Nada is very aptly named. Yes. My shade are on, kornholer.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Messy Pooper wrote: > The fat pompous windbag Limbaugh *loves* to be the > center of speculation, and he also *loves* to pretend > to have all kinds of juicy insider information that he > "can't" share with the "folks", but I can't believe > he'd say a thing like that when he has nothing at all. > Recall that someone else has said (whined, if I > remember correctly) that the announcement of Limbaugh's > involvement in this was revealed publicly before > telling Limbaugh himself (and his attorneys). It's > anyone's guess what he knew by the time he made that > comment, but he at least knew there's something to the > investigation. You mind is already made up, Messy Pooper. Not that it means anything. I'm sure you won't let facts get I the way of your hatred.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Lou Scannon wrote: > >>Murky Pooper wrote: > >> > >>> >>>>>>You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush. > >>> >>>>>>That's why you are a dumbass meter reader. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>>Why am I not surprised at this comment? > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer. > >>> >>> > >>> >>>Not surprisingly, this comment doesn't surprise me either. > >>> >> > >>> >>I would be surprised if you wrote anything > >>> >>vaguely intelligent or humorous. > >>> >>Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > >>> >>blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I'd be surprised if you wrote something vaguely intelligent. > >>> > > >>> > Does your dialog consist entirely of cliched insults? > >>> > >>> It's a monologue, not a dialogue. > >> > >>You may have something there. > >>You and your fellow kornholers bring nothing to the table. > >>Keep plucking away though. > >>It keeps you off the NAMBLA sites for a little bit. > > > >What exactly have you brought to the table in this thread? > > > >"Eat shit, pussyboy." > > > >"You're not smart enough to appreciate Rush." > > > >"Because you're a brain dead socialist kornholer." > > > >"I would be surprised if you wrote anything > >vaguely intelligent or humorous. > >Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > >blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes." > > > >"I would be surprised if you wrote anything > >vaguely intelligent or humorous. > >Keep plucking away, kornholer, even the > >blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes." > > > >"Bhwaaaaaa!!!" > > > >"Kornholer. Cocksucker. Pussyboy." > > > >"Bullshit. > >Liberal kornholers will believe anything." > > > >You seem obsessed with hornholers, cocksuckers and pussyboys. > > That tells you where he's coming from, doesn't it? It just tells you who I'm replying to, kornholer.
Re: Rush Limbaugh, closet pill-popper, in pill probe
Author: Murray Cooper
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Nothing, John wrote: > Murky Pooper wrote: > > >>>>Tells you exactly what he is. Don't forget that J. >>>>Edgar Hoover, ostensibly a rigidly conservative >>>>moralizer, was boning young boys his whole adult life. >>> >>> >>>More from the lefty bag of lies. >> >>Not "lefty", stupid fat fuck. > > > The people on the right are not spreading those lies, kornholer. 1. They aren't lies. 2. The numbskulls on the right spread their own lies. > > >>Hoover and Clyde Tolson >>were as queer as three dollar bills.
Re: Rush Limbaugh, closet pill-popper, in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Murky Pooper wrote: > >>Tells you exactly what he is. Don't forget that J. > >>Edgar Hoover, ostensibly a rigidly conservative > >>moralizer, was boning young boys his whole adult life. > > > > > > More from the lefty bag of lies. > > Not "lefty", stupid fat fuck. The people on the right are not spreading those lies, kornholer. > Hoover and Clyde Tolson > were as queer as three dollar bills. Prove it, pussyboy. You can't. It's not true. (cites from The Nation don't count)
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
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Murky Pooper wrote: > Fix your system clock, Nothing, you stupid fat fuck. > It's an hour fast. Tough luck, Murky Pooper, it doesn't bother me. I check my Rolex for the time, kornholer, you impotent little worm. Better you spend your time on something you can control, like, getting your sow all prettied up to meet your momma.
Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Peter H. Proctor
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:59
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 10:05:20 GMT, KStahl <ktsahl@yahoo.com> wrote:
>If Limbaugh had any integrity and honor, he would simply come out and
>say that he screwed up or show that there is no substance to the charge.
Interestingly, this is exactly what chief justice Rhenquist
did under very similar circumstances. He just announced that he had
developed a little "habit" under medical treament and was dealing with
it. End of story... Most people don't even know about this curious
episode of the chief justice as drug addict...
Dr P
Drug-dependent Supremes ( was Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Peter H. Proctor
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:20
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:20
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"WHEN SUPREME COURT JUSTICES REFUSE TO RETIRE:".... JOHN DEAN http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20010720.html "Justices' mental problems are all too easily hidden. While on the bench, Justice Frank Murphy, who served from 1940-49, had a serious drug problem (Demerol addiction), and was seeing a psychoanalyst. One biographer reports that at one point, he was illegally purchasing drugs twice a day. Law clerks, and other justices, were deciding his votes. No one outside the Court knew. " "Long before Associate Justice William Rehnquist was nominated to be chief justice, he had a serious health issue that may have impaired his decisionmaking. For nine years, from 1972-81, the Capitol physician, Freeman H. Cary, had prescribed a powerful hypnotic medication, Placidyl, because of Rehnquist's chronic lower back pain. This powerful controlled substance is prescribed for relief from insomnia. Its known side effects include "confused thinking, impaired memory," and even "delirium." Rehnquist started at 500 milligrams a day, but the dose soon tripled, to 1500 milligrams a day. Ignoring Rehnquist's Prescription Drug Use By 1981, journalists covering the Supreme Court did notice that the highly articulate Rehnquist was having increasing difficulty asking questions from the bench. Reporters who engaged in private conversations with Rehnquist noted that he clearly had "significant difficulty talking." But none wrote about it. It was not until Justice Rehnquist ended up in the hospital in January 1982, and it was learned that the Justice had been "seeing things and hearing things that other people didn't see or hear," did reporters say anything. Even when he was elevated to chief justice, Rehnquist's health records remained sealed during his confirmation hearings. More than this, the Senate Judiciary Committee agreed in advance not to ask him any questions about his health. He did testify about the cloak of secrecy regarding the health of justices, but not about his own condition. "I think judges have much more of a tendency to 'pull the wagons around' or something like that � particularly on our Court, where there are only nine seats, the health of every individual Justice is an endless subject of speculation," Rehnquist told the Senate. As chief justice he has continued to keep his, and the other justices', health well hidden. We can only assume that Rehnquist is in better mental health than at the time of his 1982 hospitalization. " Dr P
Re: Rush Limbaugh, closet pill-popper, in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:29
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:29
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Murky Pooper wrote: > > > > > >>>>Tells you exactly what he is. Don't forget that J. > >>>>Edgar Hoover, ostensibly a rigidly conservative > >>>>moralizer, was boning young boys his whole adult life. > >>> > >>> > >>>More from the lefty bag of lies. > >> > >>Not "lefty", stupid fat fuck. > > > > > > The people on the right are not spreading those lies, kornholer. > > 1. They aren't lies. I knew you couldn't back up your claim. Liberal kornholers never can. Thanks for proving my point, kornholer. > 2. The numbskulls on the right spread their own lies. Whatever, kornholer. > >>Hoover and Clyde Tolson > >>were as queer as three dollar bills. Prove it, pussyboy. Cites from The Nation don't count.
Re: Drug-dependent Supremes ( was Re: Rush Limbaugh in pill probe
Author: Nada, John
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:23
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:23
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"Peter H. Proctor" wrote: > > "WHEN SUPREME COURT JUSTICES REFUSE TO RETIRE:".... JOHN DEAN > > http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20010720.html > > "Justices' mental problems are all too easily hidden. While on the > bench, Justice Frank Murphy, who served from 1940-49, had a serious > drug problem (Demerol addiction), and was seeing a psychoanalyst. One > biographer reports that at one point, he was illegally purchasing > drugs twice a day. Law clerks, and other justices, were deciding his > votes. No one outside the Court knew. " > > "Long before Associate Justice William Rehnquist was nominated to be > chief justice, he had a serious health issue that may have impaired > his decisionmaking. For nine years, from 1972-81, the Capitol > physician, Freeman H. Cary, had prescribed a powerful hypnotic > medication, Placidyl, because of Rehnquist's chronic lower back pain. > > This powerful controlled substance is prescribed for relief from > insomnia. Its known side effects include "confused thinking, impaired > memory," and even "delirium." Rehnquist started at 500 milligrams a > day, but the dose soon tripled, to 1500 milligrams a day. > > Ignoring Rehnquist's Prescription Drug Use > > By 1981, journalists covering the Supreme Court did notice that the > highly articulate Rehnquist was having increasing difficulty asking > questions from the bench. Reporters who engaged in private > conversations with Rehnquist noted that he clearly had "significant > difficulty talking." But none wrote about it. > > It was not until Justice Rehnquist ended up in the hospital in January > 1982, and it was learned that the Justice had been "seeing things and > hearing things that other people didn't see or hear," did reporters > say anything. > > Even when he was elevated to chief justice, Rehnquist's health records > remained sealed during his confirmation hearings. More than this, the > Senate Judiciary Committee agreed in advance not to ask him any > questions about his health. He did testify about the cloak of secrecy > regarding the health of justices, but not about his own condition. > > "I think judges have much more of a tendency to 'pull the wagons > around' or something like that � particularly on our Court, where > there are only nine seats, the health of every individual Justice is > an endless subject of speculation," Rehnquist told the Senate. As > chief justice he has continued to keep his, and the other justices', > health well hidden. We can only assume that Rehnquist is in better > mental health than at the time of his 1982 hospitalization. " > > Dr P Liberals need powerful drugs to combat their multitudinous psychological disorders. Rehnquist record says he's what they call 'a functioning psychopath'.
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