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Article #1593Re: We'll silence them one way or another
From: Gregory Gadow
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:50
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 20:50
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Rafael Block wrote: > Charles Packer wrote: > > "Robert McClelland" <robert.mcclelland@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<bVlka.3634$N94.299783@news20.bellglobal.com>... > > > >>OAKLAND, Calif. (Reuters) - Oakland police fired rubber bullets to > >>disperse about 750 anti-war demonstrators on Monday in what was > >>believed to be the first use of the projectiles against U.S. > >>protesters since the American-led war on Iraq began. > > > > > > > > Historical question: Have U.S. police _ever_ used projectiles against > > protest demonstrators before? The most likely recent instance would > > have been in Seattle against the anti-globalist demonstrators in 1999. > > Does anybody recall? What about Chicago, 1968? > > No rubber bullets to my recollection, but they did use [Geneva > convention banned] tear gas. The police did, indeed, use rubber bullets. There was a great hue and cry when those little "souveniers" began popping up on E-bay along with the spent tear gas canisters (the printing on which proved that they were military grade munitions that had come from a National Guard arsenal.) There was a great hue and cry, not reported by the mainstream media, when E-bay invoked their "no weapons" policy and forbade such "souveniers" from being sold on their system. As for the Geneva Conventions, there is a loophole. The Convention -- specifically, the First Convention (link below), prohibits the use of chemical weapons *as a weapon of war.* Subsequent treaties regarding chemical weapons limit the use of poison and noxious agents on the battlefield but explicitly permit their use by a government on its own people. Just as a recent example, the Chemical Weapons Convention (http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/nndi-agency/cwc_1-en.asp) states in Article II (Definitions and Criteria), Section 9 (Purposes Not Prohibited Under this Convention): "(d) Law enforcement including domestic riot control purposes." This treaty was signed although it apparently has not yet been ratified as US law by the Senate. * Geneva Convention 1(Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating Gas, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare 8 February 1928) http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/lawofwar/geneva01.htm -- Gregory Gadow techbear@serv.net http://www.serv.net/~techbear If it is the act of a traitor to speak out against the unConstitional acts of my government, to excercise my rights guaranteed by that Constitution -- the right to publish my opinions and speak my thoughts, the right to petition for a redress of grievances, the right to be secure in my person and property against search and seizure without due process of law -- then I am a traitor. And God grant us many, many more traitors, for we are in dire need of them.
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