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Article #863Re: Supreme Court halts Florida vote count: A black day for American democracy
From: David Jensen
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:29
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:29
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:44:38 -0600, in wi.general MWSmith <mws@wt.net> wrote in <3EF950B49BEB7C98.AA241107AB02C3ED.24F68721CAAA405C@lp.airnews.net>: >On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:37:26 GMT, David Jensen ><david@dajensen-family.com> wrote: > >>Well, I think that the law says all the votes that can be counted >>according to the criteria in the statute. >> >>Good ballot procedures should: >> >>(1) not allow ambiguous votes. >>(2) not allow multiple votes for the same seat. >>(3) not allow a seat to be forgotten. >>(4) leave a highly reliable audit trail. >> >>We cannot fix the past, but we can certainly avoid repeats. > >#3 is wrong. The "undervotes" were votes for "none of the above". >These people voted in other races, but not for President because there >is no space (or punch point) for "none of the above". I want to require that people explicitly not vote for those candidates. Then, if we are looking for real electoral reform, the next step is to disqualify the losing candidates in the revote when NOTA wins.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109097,b1da3fd7c2453373 X-Google-Attributes: gid109097,public X-Google-Thread: fa03c,b1da3fd7c2453373 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa03c,public X-Google-Thread: fd321,b1da3fd7c2453373 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd321,public X-Google-Thread: f8dda,13cdbfdc94512e1d X-Google-Attributes: gidf8dda,public X-Google-Thread: 10c449,b1da3fd7c2453373 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c449,public X-Google-Thread: f765b,b1da3fd7c2453373 X-Google-Attributes: gidf765b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-01-19 10:29:17 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone-sjo1.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed.online.be!ratbert.tds.net!not-for-mail From: David Jensen <david@dajensen-family.com> Newsgroups: mn.general,wi.general,alt.rush-limbaugh,pa.politics,dfw.politics,houston.general Subject: Re: Supreme Court halts Florida vote count: A black day for American democracy Organization: Jensen Family Reply-To: david@dajensen-family.com Message-ID: <ip1h6tgldmeqq2gsp577e4b4cqk2odcbac@4ax.com> References: <3A5B2F6A.6270AF42@windriver.com> <john-0901011015410001@24-216-78-46.hsacorp.net> <Pine.OSF.3.96.1010109160421.28248D-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> <6M_86.1537$KE.70317@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3a65a920$0$46005$272ea4a1@news.execpc.com> <945alf$l6u$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> <slrn96d4mo.jbp.jdege@jdege.visi.com> <3A679438.B418D256@earthlink.net> <hrgf6tgdphrmubgcf1e3ffcidq9qmrhpo4@4ax.com> <3EF950B49BEB7C98.AA241107AB02C3ED.24F68721CAAA405C@lp.airnews.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:29:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.49.219.111 X-Complaints-To: abuse@tds.net (TDS.NET help Desk 1-888-815-5992) X-Trace: ratbert.tds.net 979928946 207.49.219.111 (Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:29:06 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:29:06 CST