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Love-Hounds Digest			   Tuesday, February 25, 1986, 17:27

Today's Topics:

		    Re: Love-Hounds Digest (2 msgs)
		 Re: The Victims && Young Marble Giants
				 Trivia
				Kiss ...
		A quasi-Greg Earle anti-critic flame :-)
		    ((((((((((((($$$)))))))))))))))
				 Music!

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Date: 18 Feb 1986 18:51-PST
Sender: CDONALDSON@USC-ISIF.ARPA
Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest
From: CDONALDSON@USC-ISIF.ARPA


For the curious, what follows is the results of the Village Voice Annual
Pazz and Jop Critics Poll. 

                    **Albums**
1. Talking Heads: Little Creatures              1078(99)
2. The Replacements: Tim                         865(82)
3. John Cougar Mellancamp: Scarecrow             637(53)
4. Tom Waits: Rain Dogs                          607(59)
5. Artists United Against Apartheid: Sun City    569(43)
6. Husker Du: Flip Your Wig                      535(51)
7. R.E.M.: Rables of the Reconstruction          526(52)
8. Husker Du: New Day Rising                     457(43)
9. Aretha Franklin: Who's Zooming Who?           407(41)
10.John Fogerty: Centerfield                     392(37)
11.Sam Cooke: Live at the Harlem Sqare Club      391(34)
12.The Velevet Underground: VU                   370(31)
13.Richard Thompson:Across a Crowded             321(13)
14.Sade: Diamond Life                            283(30)
15.Go Go Crankin'                                264(29)
16.Bob Dylan: Biograph                           263(22)
17.Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Well     252(22)
18.Kate Bush: Hounds of Love                     236(24)
19.The Blasters: Hard Line                       235(25)
20.Dire Straits: Brothers In Arms                223(23)
21.Sting: The Dream of the Blue Turtles          223(22)
22.Jason and the Scorchers: Lost and Found       212(23)
23.Meat Puppets: Up the Sun                      186(20)
24.Lone Justice:Lone Justice                     186(17)
25.The Jesus and Mary Chain: Psychocandy         175(15)
26.The Mekons: Fear and Whiskey                  168(16)
27.The Golden Palominos: Visions of Excess       165(16)
28.Prefab Sprout: Two Wheels Good                162(17)
29.Don Henly: Building the Perfect Beat          161(13)
30.Luther Vandross: The Night I Fell in Love     161(14)
31.Bryan Ferry: Boys and Girls                   154(15)
32.Run-D.M.C.                                    151(15)
33.Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians: Fegmania   150(18)
34.Ruben Blades y Seis del Solar: Escenas        149(15)
35.Marshall Crenshaw: Downtown                   148(16)
36.Professor Longhair: Rock'n'Roll Gumbo         134(13)
37.L.L. Cool J: Radio                            132(12)
38.Marti Jones: Unsophisticated Time             131(15)
39.Suzanne Vega: Suzanne Vega                    130(14)
40 The Minutemen: 3-Way Tie (for Last)           130(11)

This poll compiles ballots from 238 critics, each of whom
divided 100 points among 10 1985 LPs. Maximum points per album: 30.
Minimum 5. Points determined placements, with the total mentions 
(indicated in parentheses) used to break ties.

   ... inter alia, "Running Up That Hill" placed 10th in the 
singles poll where "Sun City" was voted number one.



                                             Gerry

Additional Queries

Doug, what is KB's current hair style? Is it similar to the picture
on the imported 12'' "Cloudbusting" single? Apparently she is sporting
a rather short haircut these days.

Jordan, being that you are residing in the Bay Area, can you relate the recent 
history ( or the past demise) of The Victims, a band whose single 
"100% White Girl" amused me a few years back.

Anyone:
What has become of the Young Marble Giants? I have in my possession
"Colossal Youth" on Rough Trade records. What else did they record?



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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 86 19:18:47 PST
From: jordan@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu (Jordan Hayes)
Subject: Re: The Victims && Young Marble Giants

I don't know anything about the Victims ... never heard of the
weenies ... I only have Collosal Youth as well, although I usta have
a 7"er of looking for mr right b/w cakewalking ... if anyone else
knows the whereabouts of Young Marble Giants, send it along.

cluBLAND sf style ... saw blanc MANGe the other night at wolfgangs ...
too much hairspray at that one ... haven't seen this many trendies
since FLOck of haircuts ... opening band was definitely something
to YAWN home about ... bourgeois tagg ... with two g-eeze ... the
word dick-whACK comes to mind ... copacabana gone to its LOGICal
extREMITies ... too many dotz for me ... why do i even try ...?

/jordan

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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 86 17:01:19 pst
From: ia-sun2!smeagol!gorbag!earle@csvax.caltech.edu (Greg Earle)
Subject: Trivia


Wrigley's Fun Fact:
	If I'm not mistaken, the "Shel Talmy" who posted a request for
a CompuPro system (article <36@randvax.UUCP>) from Rand Corp. in Santa
Monica CA (posted to net.micro.*, net.wanted, na.forsale) is the same
"Shel Talmy" who produced the early Kinks ("You Really Got Me") and
Who ("I Can't Explain") records.  I vaguely recall seeing an article
in the NME or somewhere saying he'd pissed off to California and was
now into computers ...
You can look it up.

Hey hof ...
Wrigley's Fun Fact #2:
Get an L.A.-ite to send ya a copy of the latest Scratch Magazine 
(chronicles the lifes and times of the Hollywood/Melrose Ave. Elite)
Has two not-to-be-missed features: (1) Article/Pix of SAMHAIN (would
I lie to you?), and (2) the infamous 1986 Scratch Magazine Hollywood
Pin-Up Calendar (!!!!) - features Texacala Jones (tex & The Horseheads)
as Miss October, and Pleasant Gehman (Screamin' Sirens) as Miss May.
But forget them, check out Miss(es) January and Miss February ... YOWZA!!

	Greg Earle
	JPL Spacecraft Data Systems group
	sdcrdcf!smeagol!earle (UUCP)
	ia-sun2!smeagol!earle@csvax.caltech.edu (ARPA)


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From think!harvard!uwvax!astroatc!gtaylor Wed Feb 19 12:56:14 1986
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From: think!harvard!uwvax!astroatc!gtaylor (Greg Taylor)
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To: harvard!think!mit-eddie!gds
Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest
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>If anyone thinks they know
>how "aresh aresh tomp pare hairdo" should really read, or knows what a
>"Cop Boutique" is, please let me know: 

I'm surprised that a dedicated obscurantist such as yourself 
could miss where "aresh" comes from.....after all, the author's
name is right there in the song! Yep, good old Marcel Brust
-oops, that's Proust. The real title is "A la Recherche du
Temps Perdu", translated in English as "The Remembrance of Things
Past." It's a 3 volume set of 7 "books" in the most elliptical
Frogspeak you can imagine whose siren charms are known to all.
It is the novelistic equivalent of very good brandy. It will
either entirely captivate your or put you right to sleep, just
like you-know-who.

Je pense, donc j'essuie,
gtaylor

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Date:     Sat, 15 Feb 86 15:01:00 EST
From: Hofmann <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  Kiss ...

Picked up the new prince 45 yesterday entitled kisses - if you like
the erotic city minimalist funk, you might want to check it out, it's
even more minimal than that ... though you may want to wait for the
dance mix 12" ... this 45 is apparently the precursor to his next album
and includes a b-side not slated for that work...
				
				
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"you have arms/you have legs/you have freedom" - Robyn

hofmann

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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 86 14:23:27 EST
From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Subject: A quasi-Greg Earle anti-critic flame :-)



	In last week's Village Voice you will find a misinformed and
uninformative review of a concert given by everyone's favorite synth-
eccentrics, the Residents. Just who is this Mary Passantino who wrote
the article??? It's people like her who give critics a bad name :-) :-)

	(Oops, that should be Rosemary, not Mary. None of us is perfect :-)

	In her cursory overview of the Residents' work (in that self-righteous
all-knowing style typical of many critics, of course), she completely
neglects what is generally considered the Residents' technical masterpiece,
the concept album ESKIMO. She also mentions in passing the infamous
album cover with Dick Clark's head on Hitler's body, and makes the
incredible blunder of attributing it to NOT AVAILABLE, when in fact
it was on the cover of THIRD REICH AND ROLL. Then Rosemary condemns the
Residents' "dinosaur antics" (her exact words) after the COMMERCIAL ALBUM,
citing as examples the Mole Trilogy, VILENESS FATS and RESIDUE. Of course
self-respecting Residents fan knows that VILENESS FATS contains music
from a video the Residents made back in the early '70s, while RESIDUE
is a compilation of leftover tracks from many albums, so these two
albums are hardly representative of recent trends in the Resident's
work. AND of course she neglects to mention the hilarious GEORGE AND
JAMES, whose freshness and zaniness would dispell any fears that the
Residents are taking themselves too seriously.

	And I thought misinformation was only a symptom of the sickness
of net.music :-) :-)

				Bill Hsu

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Date:     Mon, 17 Feb 86 17:56:05 EST
From: Susanne E Trowbridge <umcp-cs!jhunix!ins_aset@seismo.CSS.GOV>
Subject:  ((((((((((((($$$)))))))))))))))

Well, I logged onto my account after three days away, expecting the usual
loads of Love-Hounds messages, and was appalled at how few there were.  Is
this what we can expect with Doug Alan taking on some (gasp) respectable
job?  Anyway, I got a laugh out of this column in Melody Maker.  But then
again, maybe I'm just strange.  Hee.

SOUND-ALIKES

1. PRINCE AND PHIL COLLINS
   Well, they're both tiny and we don't like either of them and...could
*you* tell the difference between "Sussudio" and "1999"?  Thought not.

2. PET SHOP BOYS AND AL STEWART
   We wondered what had happened to Al Stewart, former bard of the
bedsits (brit word for suburbs - st) and hey presto, he turns up as
the Pet Shop Boys.  "West End Girls" is "Year Of The Cat"...but shorter.
(has anyone actually heard "West End Girls"? -st)

[It's playing out here in the Bay Area.  --gregbo]

3. DAVID SYLVIAN AND BRYAN FERRY
   Suave, sophisticated, cultured and...wallies the pair of them.  The
only difference is that Ferry is a better dancer.  (them's fightin'
words - st)

4. FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS AND AL JOLSON
   It's only a matter of time.  The remarkably tonsilled and preposterously
named Roland Gift is already halfway there with "Suspicious Minds."  Next
single just has to be "Mamie."

5. MARILLION AND GENESIS
   The old ones are still the best.  Fish gets very upset if you even
*think* about Genesis in the same minute as Marillion.  So just for you,
Fish baby...MARILLION SOUND LIKE GENESIS!

6. ROD STEWART AND BONNIE TYLER
   They sound similar because they had their throats sandpapered at the
same voice clinic.  In fact there are many theories that they are one
and the same person.  Have *you* ever seen them together?

7. GREEN ON RED AND NEIL YOUNG
   If it wasn't bad enough having the real thing plaguing us for most of
last year, we also had to suffer imitations by the likes of Green On Red.
Hang 'em high.

8. ROBERT SMITH AND DEPUTY DAWG
   Sometimes it's just impossible to tell the difference.  Mad Bob squawking
and Deputy Dawg yapping...one and the same if you ask us.  But Deputy Dawg's
slimmer.  (R.S. is the Cure's lead singer by the way - st)

9. JULIAN LENNON AND JOHN LENNON
   If we didn't know better we'd think these two were related.

-sue

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Date:    Tue, 18 Feb 86 00:17 EST
From: S7YLF4%IRISHMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: Music!

Hello all,
  (Apologies to digesters who hate reading "I'm new on the block"
messages, you'll have to either sit through this one or skipped
the rest of the digest...I love that feeling of power!  :-)
  In any case -- I'm nj, and have been getting onto ARPAnet
mailing lists like crazy lately.  My music is, I'm afraid, a little
more mundane than what seems to be floating around here.  To keep
it short and simple, here are (some of) my musical likes/dislikes:

Likes:  Bach (the original J.S., must confess I haven't really
listened to P.D.Q.), Rush, Dire Straits, R.E.M., Talking Heads,
a little heavy metal (very little), some Alan Parsons (just heard
Stereotomy on CD), a little Peter Gabriel, some ZZ Top (depending
on my mood), a l...

Dislikes: Wham! (ugh!), Madonna (double ugh!), Prince & Boy George
& Duran Duran and all those make-up-wearing people (I know I'm
alienating quite a few people here), most heavy metal (I know I'm
alienating even more), practically all country (there go the rest
of them), in faquite a bit of Top 40 stuff (especially Bruce Springsteen;
there goes thBe whole female popoulation).., ...

In any case, I'm probably going to sit back and watch for awhile and
find out how many people hate me.  Until then, adieu...

nj <s7ylf4%irishmvs.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.EDU>

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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gds@eddie.mit.edu