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Love-Hounds Digest			   Tuesday, March 18, 1986, 04:09

Today's Topics:

			   Kate Bush on Stage
		       Japan, David Sylvian, Etc.
		 One Last Word (on this subject anyway)
			 recent digest contents
				  XTC
		Bill Nelson; more Cocteau fanzine drivel
		    Bizarro wierd stuff... (2 msgs)

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 86 21:35 PST
From: ROBB LEATHERWOOD <ROBB-LEATHERWOOD%LADC@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject: Kate Bush on Stage
Randomness: About the only thing on a farm that has an easy time is the dog.

I saw, at my local record store, a 12" Mini-Album by Kate Bush.  It's
called "Kate Bush on Stage" and it's on Harvest records.  The pictures
and the 4 songs listed on the back are the same as the 7" single of
the same name that I saw in Jim Lippard's boxed set of KB singles.  Now,
this would be fine and dandy, but there's a sticker on the front that
says that the EP contains 6 songs.  Either the sticker is lying or the
list on the back is.  Does anybody know the answer to this?  And what
is Kate doing on Harvest records? (Before you scream at me because all
of her other records that I don't have are on Harvest, let me tell you
that I only have HoL, The Dreaming, The Kick Inside on CD, and her
2 latest 12-inches.  I just don't remember seeing that Harvest label on
any of the other records I've seen by her.)

Another Kate question:  Now that I have what I have, what should I
get next?  Never For Ever?  Lionheart?  Or some singles or what?  I'd
appreciate a suggestion for my next Kate Bush record.  (If there are
truly 6 songs on that Mini-Album, I expect I'll get that next.  I mean,
it only costs $6.99)

So long,
  -Shoo

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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 86 21:56 PST
From: ROBB LEATHERWOOD <ROBB-LEATHERWOOD%LADC@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject: Japan, David Sylvian, Etc.
Randomness: There's got to be more to life than compile-and-go.

Can someone tell me a little something about Japan and off-shoot bands and
artists?  I have Japan's "Assemblage", "Oil on Canvas", and "Tin Drum".  I
also have Mick Karn's solo album and Dali's Car's album.  Can someone give
a discography of the band and it's representative artists, as well as some
history of them and personal opinions?

Thanks,
  -Shoo
  (or Fubb in ROT13, if you prefer...)

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Date:         Fri, 14 Mar 1986 10:27 EST
From: David M. Hardy <HAADAV@MITVMA>
Subject:      One Last Word (on this subject anyway)

I just went back and reread my original posting, and gosh, golly, and JHTC,
I can't find ANYTHING in it where I told ANYONE to STOP DOING ANYTHING!!!!
Perhaps those who think I did should go back and reread it themselves instead
of reading things into it that aren't there.  It was the person who said
"Please stop using obscenities" that triggered this whole thing who said to
stop.  Now I'm going to put my walkman back on and continue listening to
Stan Rogers' "White Squall," followed by Fred Small's "Heart of the
Appaloosa" and the Legendary Pink Dots' "The Lovers" among other things which
there just aren't words, profane or otherwise, to describe.  Saved by the
music....

                        "And I tell these kids 100 times
                         don't take the lakes for granted.
                         They go from calm to 100 knots
                         So fast they seem enchanted."
                                          >>> Dave


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Date: 14 Mar 86 16:56:00 PST
From: "ROSSI J.A." <rossi@nusc.ARPA>
Subject: recent digest contents
Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." <rossi@nusc.ARPA>


Doug et al.,

If you look at the recent contents of this digest you can't help but notice
that the obscenity issue has gotten the most air-play of any recent "hot" topic.
There may be a reason for this which transcends peoples feelings for ex-
pression of opinions on morality issues.  I have been reading this digest for
bo about 2 months now.  I am constantly amazed at how little I know about
what is happening in the current world of progressive music (I use the term
progressive loosly, till I am sure that we are bnot allways talking about
neo-bang-bang bands, whose collective musical ability could not be surpassed
easily by recordings of mating calls of various rodents in heat).  I have
obviously been sheltered from much of the music described here.  Worse, I
have absolutely no idea where I can go to hear these new groups abnd decide
whether or not I find them progressive.  Ergo, I have little to say about
any of these bands, although I enjoy reading comments about them.

This gets me to my point, I believe that the obscenty issue may reflect a
common focus upon which many persons can share opinions because we all have
some knowledge of obscenities.  As to stopping the discussions of this
sort because it does not involve 'progressive music' is as rediculous (this
terminal is typing funny) as the concept of dirty words (e.g., words which
have dirt on them).  

I am always open to hear new truely progressive music (remember about 10
years ago Pink Floyd were pretty progressive) and my opinion of the music
would not be altered by the name of a band. (The original name of my last
performing band was Coitus, which we changed to afterglow to avoid, much to
my dismay, public opinion -- We would have been better off as Coitus). Like
many of us oldetr types who read the digest, I wish we had a better way of
communicating the actual music as opposed to commentary abou the music.
At this point, we would all know what everybody was talking about.  Alas, 
(I read Jerry Pournell's BYTE art. too often) we may never reach this
technological capability, and I think that we all will suffer because of
this.

You people who live in Boston and have FNX (and people who live elsewhere
where there are stations that play 'oddo' music) are lucky.  Those of us
who use radios in SE Connecticut are pretty isolated.

One final comment,

Thje Berlin 'SEX' lyric is (to the best of my ability to discriminate using
filters, speed translation and quantization techniques is "F*ck ME, F*ck ME".
I wont get into thge reason I investigated ti (oops) it in the first place
but would be glad to explain in detail if anyone really cares.

John
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Date:     Fri, 14 Mar 86 17:12 EDT
From: Bob Page <page%ulowell.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
Subject:  XTC

Are recording as we speak.  Todd Rundgren (sp?) is producing.
No release date info.  It'll be good to hear from them again.

It isn't even winter/and I'm shivering/shivering...

..Bob
PS Shit. heh heh.

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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 86 22:56:53 EST
From: hsut@ed.purdue.edu (Bill Hsu)
Subject: Bill Nelson; more Cocteau fanzine drivel


(I'm typing this while listening to All the Love, one of my all-time favorite
Kate songs, so this may get somewhat incoherent...)

(BTW, it was hilarious to read one of Doug's postings to lovehounds show up
in mod.music, you know the one where he predicted confusion about a certain
F-word...)

Finally picked up a copy of Bill Nelson's The Love that Whirls (I also saw
a stack of rarer Bill Nelson stuff at Rose in Chicago, but they're way out
of my budget range). Neat to find out that a lot of the artists whom I
admire also like each other's work --- Bill Nelson seems to be really
into Cocteau (again!) and the Hungarian Gyorgy Ligeti, one of the most
interesting avant garde composers in the early '60s. Ligeti wrote neat
pieces for organ which are literally dense blocks of sounds and colors,
and interesting choral and orchestral pieces. One of his pieces is heard
in the movie 2001. If you're into Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast (was it
Shelli?) be sure to pick up Bill Nelson's soundtrack. It was written for
a stage production based on the movie, and Nelson acknowledges the
influence of the original soundtrack. I've seen lots of stills from the
movie, but have not had the chance to see the actual movie.


Bill Hsu

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Date:     Sat, 15 Mar 86  01:02:28 EST
From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU  (Local UMass address is
  Cutter@Mailer.CY175)
Subject:  Bizarro wierd stuff...

1 - Picked up "The Dreaming". Kate Bush is the most extremely wicked
pissah awesome artist I've ever heard.

2 - I quoted part of this in my first message, and someone re-quoted
them in the last issue. Here is the whole song, known as "Piece of
Mind", which seems to be an outtake from the "Sgt Pepper" album, and
it is an outtake for obvious reasons - too bleeping wierd. Almost
pushes the limits of "psychedelic". The copy I have sux rox so maybe
one or two words ain't right...

"I'm looking at the candle burns the flame to meet the sky
 I hear the candle laughing, I turn my face to cry
 The safety pin returns my smile, I nod a brief hello
 While you are building molecules with your garden hoe.
 White canvas laughs forever, these things repressed inside
 One feels it almost instantly, unless the novice died
 It's over, it's done, paper needed again,
 Just please please please, oh don't keep me from begin
 I need to hear the colors red and blue, with whispered words
 To fly all day and sing in tune and not hear what I heard
 To see you all around me and to take you by the hand
 And lead you to a brand new world that lately has been found
 We'll build things never built before and do things never done
 And just before it's over, it's really just begun.
 Hush..."

Pretty wierd, huh? Definately drug-induced, but even so it beats
Wham!...

Has anyone picked up the latest (new as of 1/27) Mike Oldfield single?
I was over in Amherst, MA, during the broadcast of an extremely fine
college radio show known as "Non Sequiter Theatre" which plays a lot of
cool sh*t, from XTC to Frank Chickens to The Jazz Butcher to The Cramps,
and the DJ played the single. Very reminiscent of things like "Tricks of
the Light", like Oldfield is still in "Discovery" mode. Pretty good,
don't remember what the b-side is.

Speaking of XTC, saw the video for "Mole of the Ministry"... ever seen
that promo film the Beatles did for "Strawberry Fields Forever"? Yeah,
well, it looks like Partridge et al overdosed on watching it... Less
silent-film-ish, but it suits the song well. Also caught the video for
PiL's new one, "Rise". Lydon looks reminiscent of Dr. Lizardo, replete with
red hair on end and bug eyes. Then again, Lydon USUALLY looks like that.
He's also the only one from the band in the video. Hmmm...

Enough drivel. Later.

               "I'll find a place somewhere in the corner
                I'm gonna waste the rest of my days
                Just playing solitaire by the window
                Just watching seasons change..."

                                                Joe

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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 86 02:15:51 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  Bizarro wierd stuff...

> From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU

> 1 - Picked up "The Dreaming". Kate Bush is the most extremely wicked
> pissah awesome artist I've ever heard.

Hey, it's great to see another convert to the One True Faith!

Some days I think to myself, "Is all this ridiculous Kate Bush
fanatacism really worth it?"  But on days like today, when I know that
I've created another fan, and I can think of those extra few bucks in
KB's pocket, which she can use to build a better security system
around her house to protect herself from bozos like me who send her
rediculously long unanswerable letters and who want nothing more in
the world than to sneak into her house and make off with all her demo
tapes (including that one with 50 (!!!) piano songs on it that she
sent to record comapnies when she was 14) and her twelve inch single
for "Sat In Your Lap" -- it's on days like these that I know it's all
worth it!

			"I want it all"

			 Doug

P.S.  "Hounds of Love" has risen back up the UK Billboard charts and
is back in the top 10 (at number 9)!  (And to think that I was worried
about what KB was going to do for money when "The Dreaming" flopped.)

P.P.S.  Where does one find that nifto bizarro "Sgt. Pepper's"
out-take?

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
gds@eddie.mit.edu