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Amateur Cichlids wrote:

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>      "Whizbang" <whizbang@correctopinions.com> wrote in message
>      news:429529F0.53B16823@correctopinions.com...Gun grabbers?
>      C'mon.
>
>      Gun nuts all want all types of guns available all the time,
>      with any kind of ammo, even when it's of a brand that should
>      rightfully (as even Bush admitted before his balls
>      shrivelled on him) be available to the military only.
>
> The term gun nuts already sets up a bias that really taints your
> entire argument. From where I sit, it seems you are saying anyone that
> would own a gun is a nut. Those like Michael Moore who speak against
> owning guns but make sure their bodyguards have them, where do they
> fall?
>
No, I don't believe that all guns have to disappear. When I say gun
nuts, I mean those who favor no reasonable limits whatsoever. Military
style weapons have no place in civilian life, no self-defense purposes,
and no sporting purpose.


>      The paranoid nut jobs all think the U.N. or the feds or some
>      "jack booted thugs" are coming to kick the doors in and take
>      your guns. Ain't gonna happen.
>
>      Meanwhile, the rest of us who don't quake like a Frenchman
>      in a wind storm don't need a bunch of hillbillies running
>      around with guns in their waistbands. It's just asking for
>      trouble. This is modern America, not the old west.
>
> There is a town in the modern west where everyone started carrying
> guns. When you turn 18, you get your permit, or you sign a waiver
> saying the town can not be held liable if you're robbed, mugged, etc.
> The crime rate has dropped to nothing. The fact is, those you call
> paranoid nuts are many of them realists with a few nuts mixed in. When
> the extremists finally get their laws passed to outlaw all guns, you
> don't think the government will find those who have registered their
> weapons and collect them?
>
The only true extremists these days are completely right wing. Guns will
never be outlawed in the USA. So that's a straw argument. Besides that,
it would be physicallyl impossible for the gummint to collect the
hundreds of millions of weapons out there. Not gonna happen. So that's
another straw argument, and yeah, it borders on paranoia.


> Lastly, your argument about weapons that can blow up helicopters and
> those that Bush says "Should only be in the hands of the military"
> show your lack of understanding for the second amendment. If we lose
> our power to rise up and overthrow the government, then we're back
> where we started being oppressed by the British. Now you can go off on
> some tangent about us nuts who want to overthrow the government, etc.
> But, believe it or not, I have no intention of overthrowing the
> government or turning from diplomacy. However I should have the
> ability if I had to.
>
Again, more paranoia. With or without your guns, you'll never have the
power to overthrow the US gummint. All you do with all those needless
guns is endanger cilivians. You want a gun for self-defense, great. A
gun to hunt, great. Military style weapons with no purpose at all except
to kill other humans in large numbers? Ridiculous.

BTW, thank you for a very reasonable response to my original post. I
might disagree completely, but reasonable debate is always a good thing
in our God-given republic.

http://www.correctopinions.com


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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">"Whizbang"
&lt;<a href="mailto:whizbang@correctopinions.com">whizbang@correctopinions.com</a>>
wrote in message <a href="news:429529F0.53B16823@correctopinions.com">news:429529F0.53B16823@correctopinions.com</a>...Gun
grabbers? C'mon.
<p>Gun nuts all want all types of guns available all the time, with any
kind of ammo, even when it's of a brand that should rightfully (as even
Bush admitted before his balls shrivelled on him) be available to the military
only.</blockquote>

<div dir="ltr">The term gun nuts already sets up a bias that really taints
your entire argument. From where I sit, it seems you are saying anyone
that would own a gun is a nut. Those like Michael Moore who speak against
owning guns but make sure their bodyguards have them, where do they fall?</div>
</blockquote>

<div dir="ltr">No, I don't believe that all guns have to disappear. When
I say gun nuts, I mean those who favor no reasonable limits whatsoever.
Military style weapons have no place in civilian life, no self-defense
purposes, and no sporting purpose.</div>

<div dir="ltr"></div>&nbsp;

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<blockquote dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">The
paranoid nut jobs all think the U.N. or the feds or some "jack booted thugs"
are coming to kick the doors in and take your guns. Ain't gonna happen.
<p>Meanwhile, the rest of us who don't quake like a Frenchman in a wind
storm don't need a bunch of hillbillies running around with guns in their
waistbands. It's just asking for trouble. This is modern America, not the
old west.</blockquote>

<div dir="ltr"><b><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>There is a town in the
modern west where everyone started carrying guns. When you turn 18, you
get your permit, or you sign a waiver saying the town can not be held liable
if you're robbed, mugged, etc. The crime rate has dropped to nothing. The
fact is, those you call paranoid nuts are many of them realists with a
few nuts mixed in. When the extremists finally get their laws passed to
outlaw all guns, you don't think the government will find those who have
registered their weapons and collect them?</font></font></b></div>
</blockquote>

<div dir="ltr">The only true extremists these days are completely right
wing. Guns will never be outlawed in the USA. So that's a straw argument.
Besides that, it would be physicallyl impossible for the gummint to collect
the hundreds of millions of weapons out there. Not gonna happen. So that's
another straw argument, and yeah, it borders on paranoia.</div>

<div dir="ltr"></div>&nbsp;

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<div dir="ltr"><b><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Lastly, your argument
about weapons that can blow up helicopters and those that Bush says "Should
only be in the hands of the military" show your lack of understanding for
the second amendment. If we lose our power to rise up and overthrow the
government, then we're back where we started being oppressed by the British.
Now you can go off on some tangent about us nuts who want to overthrow
the government, etc. But, believe it or not, I have no intention of overthrowing
the government or turning from diplomacy. However I should have the ability
if I had to.</font></font></b></div>
</blockquote>

<div dir="ltr">Again, more paranoia. With or without your guns, you'll
never have the power to overthrow the US gummint. All you do with all those
needless guns is endanger cilivians. You want a gun for self-defense, great.
A gun to hunt, great. Military style weapons with no purpose at all except
to kill other humans in large numbers? Ridiculous.</div>

<div dir="ltr"></div>

<p>BTW, thank you for a very reasonable response to my original post. I
might disagree completely, but reasonable debate is always a good thing
in our God-given republic.
<p><A HREF="http://www.correctopinions.com">http://www.correctopinions.com</A>
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