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Article #435Re: Gun Grabbers Are Gearing Up For Indiana Gun Grab
From: Amateur Cichlids
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 00:30
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 00:30
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C56231.F87ABCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Whizbang" <whizbang@correctopinions.com> wrote in message = news:429529F0.53B16823@correctopinions.com... Gun grabbers? C'mon.=20 Gun nuts all want all types of guns available all the time, with any = kind of ammo, even when it's of a brand that should rightfully (as even = Bush admitted before his balls shrivelled on him) be available to the = military only.=20 The term gun nuts already sets up a bias that really taints your entire = argument. From where I sit, it seems you are saying anyone that would = own a gun is a nut. Those like Michael Moore who speak against owning = guns but make sure their bodyguards have them, where do they fall? The paranoid nut jobs all think the U.N. or the feds or some "jack = booted thugs" are coming to kick the doors in and take your guns. Ain't = gonna happen.=20 Meanwhile, the rest of us who don't quake like a Frenchman in a wind = storm don't need a bunch of hillbillies running around with guns in = their waistbands. It's just asking for trouble. This is modern America, = not the old west.=20 There is a town in the modern west where everyone started carrying guns. = When you turn 18, you get your permit, or you sign a waiver saying the = town can not be held liable if you're robbed, mugged, etc. The crime = rate has dropped to nothing. The fact is, those you call paranoid nuts = are many of them realists with a few nuts mixed in. When the extremists = finally get their laws passed to outlaw all guns, you don't think the = government will find those who have registered their weapons and collect = them? Oh, and I love your example about the nutcase with the gun. If all the = paranoiacs, as well as the crooks who run the NRA, would allow = background check data to remain in place instead of getting flushed = immediately, we could far more easily weed out the nuts and the criminal = straw buyers, and keep guns OUT of the hands of people like that guy.=20 =20 Lastly, your argument about weapons that can blow up helicopters and = those that Bush says "Should only be in the hands of the military" show = your lack of understanding for the second amendment. If we lose our = power to rise up and overthrow the government, then we're back where we = started being oppressed by the British. Now you can go off on some = tangent about us nuts who want to overthrow the government, etc. But, = believe it or not, I have no intention of overthrowing the government or = turning from diplomacy. However I should have the ability if I had to.=20 Tim ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C56231.F87ABCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2627" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>"Whizbang" <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:whizbang@correctopinions.com">whizbang@correctopinions.com= </A>>=20 wrote in message <A=20 = href=3D"news:429529F0.53B16823@correctopinions.com">news:429529F0.53B1682= 3@correctopinions.com</A>...</DIV>Gun=20 grabbers? C'mon.=20 <P>Gun nuts all want all types of guns available all the time, with = any kind=20 of ammo, even when it's of a brand that should rightfully (as even = Bush=20 admitted before his balls shrivelled on him) be available to the = military=20 only. </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P dir=3Dltr>The term gun nuts already sets up a bias that really taints = your=20 entire argument. From where I sit, it seems you are saying anyone that = would own=20 a gun is a nut. Those like Michael Moore who speak against owning guns = but make=20 sure their bodyguards have them, where do they fall? <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P>The paranoid nut jobs all think the U.N. or the feds or some "jack = booted=20 thugs" are coming to kick the doors in and take your guns. Ain't gonna = happen.=20 <P>Meanwhile, the rest of us who don't quake like a Frenchman in a = wind storm=20 don't need a bunch of hillbillies running around with guns in their=20 waistbands. It's just asking for trouble. This is modern America, not = the old=20 west. </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>There is a town in the = modern west=20 where everyone started carrying guns. When you turn 18, you get your = permit, or=20 you sign a waiver saying the town can not be held liable if you're = robbed,=20 mugged, etc. The crime rate has dropped to nothing. The fact is, those = you call=20 paranoid nuts are many of them realists with a few nuts mixed in. When = the=20 extremists finally get their laws passed to outlaw all guns, you don't = think the=20 government will find those who have registered their weapons and collect = them?</STRONG></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <P>Oh, and I love your example about the nutcase with the gun. If all = the=20 paranoiacs, as well as the crooks who run the NRA, would allow = background=20 check data to remain in place instead of getting flushed immediately, = we could=20 far more easily weed out the nuts and the criminal straw buyers, and = keep guns=20 OUT of the hands of people like that guy. <BR> </P> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Lastly, your argument = about weapons=20 that can blow up helicopters and those that Bush says "Should only be in = the=20 hands of the military" show your lack of understanding for the second = amendment.=20 If we lose our power to rise up and overthrow the government, then we're = back=20 where we started being oppressed by the British. Now you can go off on = some=20 tangent about us nuts who want to overthrow the government, etc. But, = believe it=20 or not, I have no intention of overthrowing the government or turning = from=20 diplomacy. However I should have the ability if I had to. = </STRONG></FONT></P> <P dir=3Dltr><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tim</FONT></STRONG></P> <P dir=3Dltr> </P></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C56231.F87ABCC0--
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