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Article #1265Re: French mythology - Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone -
From: Bidou
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 02:30
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 02:30
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Fucking idiot! Paul Martin is anglo! He speaks french with an english accent and makes a lot of mistakes Concerned Canadian a écrit : > The English should vote with one voice (like the French) for an English > Prime Minister - the French liberals are controlling the English through > Bilingualism and allowing the French a disproportionate number of votes, > senators and unearned power! Paul Martin like Mulroney is French and will > cater to Quebec! > > As a former Québecois who is trilingual, I find your insensitive and naieve > point of view very disturbing. Deep Blue had you grown up in Quebec where > English immersion is illegal, you would be unilingual French. Are you > presuming that because you have had French parents and lived in Ontario that > you are superior to unilingual Quebecois, the English, the Chinese, Arabs, > Hatiians , Spanish, Ukranian and other unilingual Canadians. As an educator > who has taught French, the reality is that the vast majority of supposed > Bilingual assimilated Franco-Ontarions cannot speak or Write French > properly. The poor quality of Joyal French is quite honestly atrocious > compared to true Quebecois or French from France. Franco-Ontarions Work in > English speaking 4 words of French and 3 words of English (worse then > Acadian French). Many don't even speak French in their homes so what kind > of nonsense is this 57 billion (Canadian Tax payer statistics since > conception) french bilingual mythology (6 billion a year or more) > Franco-Ontarion french is similar to the English spoken by some Southern > Americans. The French language is meant to show that the mastery of French > can often only be achieved by the most skilled and well educated > aristocrats. French is a melodious language designed to confuse. The French > who know their language well, who are flawless find English to be more > expedient, clear and faster to use. Very few French truly master their own > language. French is an impractical language for modern times. French is an > intolerant language and a beautiful luxury for those who have time to show > it off. Many Franco Ontarions can barely draft a French letter and most > times send it to translators (at great cost to mostly English Canadians > footing the bill for this atrocious illiteracy)! Jean Chretien himself can > speak neither French nor English properly. When traveling through France, > the French have difficulty understanding Quebecers and an even worse time > with Ontario Francophones! I challenge Deep blue to learn a language the > hard way (not through his parents and local community but in a school) like > most of us who understand what it actually takes to learn languages. Deep > Blue take a German course, then never get to practice German (as most > English NEVER EVER get to practice French) and then see if you actually > learn German! Or take flying lessons but never fly a plane, would you be a > pilot? Shame on you for perpetuating a myth that the English are somehow > NOT trying to learn French. The 400,000 English etc. forced out of Quebec > (National Geographic Nov 97) were the unwanted Bilingual forced out with > the abusive and illegal racist , ethnic cleansing Bill C 101 , a United > Nations violation. However since they don't have a French name in this > Bilingualism undemocratic French CLASS system, even if they pass the > ridiculous Kurdish exam, and French exam, within the Government and > military, they cannot get promoted! English students competing against > Franco-Ontarions who force their way into English High School French > Immersion programs (where these French students are bored, increase class > sizes to an unnecessary 36 or more) , then demand a Higher level of French > rather then having these children in a French High school to begin with (the > reason is the French child CANNOT master French i.e. their marks would be in > the low 50's or 60's! Meanwhile the English child faces a French teacher > that ignores them , focuses on the French children and refuses to help the > English children in any way until the English quit so they can actually get > an education. I've tutored these High School students who've worked hard > learning French which they NEVER get to REALLY use and spoken to these > teachers who could care less about their English students because the > English are the enemy! There is a shortage of French teachers and many are > incompetent, speak Creole (a French haitian dialect) and could care less > about teaching French for the love of the language. French learning English > in Quebec (when they are able to get private tutors) whether children or > adults generally learn English in 6 to 12 months simply because ENGLISH IS > EASIER PERIOD and they hear it on television and use it on the internet and > in 9 other provinces + Florida!! Chinese learn English, Yugoslavians learn > English, etc. Some French who travel to Florida think the Americans even > should learn French! The French aren't getting married and aren't having > children. If you don't include Quebec (where English is illegal and the > majority are unilingual) ONLY 3.2% outside Quebec are french. The Montfort > Hospital in Ottawa thinks it's in Quebec and DOESN't have to offer English > including SARS signs or speak English for its MOSTLY English patients. > Maybe the English should refuse to go there until it closes down. Air > Canada in ruins (maybe if we didn't spend so much on Bilingualism, we'd have > an air line, an Armed Forces that isn't a joke , Health Care that isn't in > crisis, a decent Education system (the bottom line is children should be > literate and bilingualism is a failure according to studies done on it! > There are many Anglophones who were forced out of Quebec with sentiments > like Vauten Chez Vous Maudit Anglais (go home stupid English) , Ferme ta > Yelle Tetu (shut your muzzle sucker) told constantly that they were 2nd > class citizens, Rheal Mathieu getting only 6 months as an FLQ terrorist who > bombed 2nd cup (oh yes Deep Blue) I forgot he's a Quebec hero! 400,000 > forced out of Quebec due to ethnic cleansing and racism (National > Geographic Nov 1997) The English losing their jobs in Quebec city for daring > to speak English to a family member. After all Quebec with it's illegal > United Nations violation Bill C101 (article 20) : any advocacy of national > , racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, > hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law. meanwhile our 35 years of > French politicians has allowed this hatred of the English, perpetuated it. > How about the King of France 1759 when he abandoned the French and created > fear (guess he like the others who got executed during the French revolution > was a saint), What about the French Catholic church (I am Catholic), I guess > they were innocent forcing the French to have 13 to 24 unwanted children and > NOT allowing them to get an education (they could be priests, doctors, > lawyers and very little else) Premier Duplesis from the 1930's to the 1960's > also CONTROLED the French. (including abusing Orphans falsely saying they > were mentally challenged or giving them labotomies along with the french > catholic church! With Bill C101 , language Police , the Government to this > day promotes Hatred of the English and CONTROLS the french by NOT allowing > them to learn English. Quebec is a Police State two new books called le > candien noir and l'americain noir (The ugly English canadian and the Ugly > American! So much for Pride in being of French decent or promoting > Bilingualism > > The English should vote with one voice (like the French) for an English > Prime Minister - the French liberals are controling the English through > Bilingualism and allowing the French a disproportionate number of votes, > senators and unearned power! Paul Martin like Mulroney is French and will > cater to Quebec! End the 36 year reign of French prime ministers! > > CC > > Deep Blue <nobody@igs.net> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deep Blue" <nobody@igs.net> > Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics,tor.general,van.general,calgary.general > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:11 AM > Subject: Re: Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone > > > Well, it's all your fault, english people! If only you were doing the same > > efforts to speak french that us french people do to speak english, those > > stats would be more fair for you. > > > > And we're all still Canadians (no i'm not a separatist). So who cares if > > there's more francophones than anglophones??? Just learn the french > language > > and be bilingual and get hired / promoted too ! > > > > And while I love english because it's a very practical and direct > language, > > french is so beautiful and poetic! It's worth to learn it just to read all > > those french books. > > > > > > "Deep Blue" <nobody@igs.net> wrote in message > news:f2643490a599d002feeeebc0106a8fac@news.teranews.com... > > Well, it's all your fault, english people! If only you were doing the same > > efforts to speak french that us french people do to speak english, those > > stats would be more fair for you. > > > > And we're all still Canadians (no i'm not a separatist). So who cares if > > there's more francophones than anglophones??? Just learn the french > language > > and be bilingual and get hired / promoted too ! > > > > And while I love english because it's a very practical and direct > language, > > french is so beautiful and poetic! It's worth to learn it just to read all > > those french books. > > > > > > > > ~Deep Blue~ > > > > "Andrew Bestfrenn" <Andrewbestfrenn@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:c499781f.0304050425.47fd67db@posting.google.com... > > > Global National News with Kevin Newman audio link > > > > > > Hear audio of Global Television News story confirming > > > that 71% of all new hirings in the massive federal > > > public service are going to Francophones, and that 68% of > > > all job promotions are going to Francophones. Due to official > > > bilingualism, while Quebec is allowed to remain officially unilingual > > > French. Francophones make up only a tiny fraction of the population > > > outside Quebec, yet we are allowing them to take over our federal > > > government. > > > > > > to hear the Global News audio > > > click here: > > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/global.mp3 > > > > > > to hear a tape of human rights expert Dr. Ritchie on this > > > topic go to: > > > > > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/CFRA-Part1.mp3 > > > > > > and > > > > > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/3minclipDrRitchie04.mp3 > > > > > > for further information: > > > > > > > > > www.languagefairness.org > > > >
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