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Re: French mythology - Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone -

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From: Bidou
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 02:29
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Fucking idiot! Majority of seats in Quebec belongs to the Bloc!

Those who voted for Chrétien thru Canada are ethnic people of big town

Concerned Canadian a écrit :

> The English should vote with one voice (like the French) for an English
> Prime Minister - the French liberals are controlling the English through
> Bilingualism and allowing the French a disproportionate number of votes,
> senators and unearned power!  Paul Martin like Mulroney is French and will
> cater to Quebec!
>
> As a former Québecois who is trilingual, I find your insensitive and naieve
> point of view very disturbing.  Deep Blue had you grown up in Quebec where
> English immersion is illegal, you would be unilingual French.  Are you
> presuming that because you have had French parents and lived in Ontario that
> you are superior to unilingual Quebecois, the English, the Chinese, Arabs,
> Hatiians , Spanish, Ukranian and other unilingual Canadians. As an educator
> who has taught French, the reality is that the vast majority of supposed
> Bilingual assimilated Franco-Ontarions cannot speak or Write French
> properly.  The poor quality of Joyal French  is quite honestly atrocious
> compared to true Quebecois or French from France. Franco-Ontarions Work in
> English speaking 4 words of French and 3 words of English (worse then
> Acadian French).  Many don't even speak French in their homes so what kind
> of nonsense is this 57 billion  (Canadian Tax payer statistics since
> conception) french bilingual mythology (6 billion a year or more)
> Franco-Ontarion french is similar to the English spoken by some Southern
> Americans. The French language is meant to show that the mastery of French
> can often only be achieved by the most skilled and well educated
> aristocrats. French is a melodious language designed to confuse. The French
> who know their language well, who are flawless find English to be more
> expedient, clear and faster to use. Very few French truly master their own
> language. French is an impractical language for modern times. French is an
> intolerant language and a beautiful luxury for those who have time to show
> it off.  Many Franco Ontarions can barely draft a French letter and most
> times send it to translators (at great cost to mostly English Canadians
> footing the bill for this atrocious illiteracy)! Jean Chretien himself can
> speak neither French nor English properly.  When traveling through France,
> the French have difficulty understanding Quebecers and an even worse time
> with Ontario Francophones! I challenge Deep blue to learn a language the
> hard way (not through his parents and local community but in a school) like
> most of us who understand what it actually takes to learn languages.  Deep
> Blue take a German course, then never get to practice German (as most
> English NEVER EVER get to practice French) and then see if you actually
> learn German!  Or take flying lessons but never fly a plane, would you be a
> pilot?   Shame on you for perpetuating a myth that the English are somehow
> NOT trying to learn French.  The 400,000 English etc. forced out of Quebec
> (National Geographic Nov 97) were the unwanted Bilingual forced out  with
> the abusive and illegal racist , ethnic cleansing Bill C 101 , a United
> Nations violation.  However since they don't have a French name in this
> Bilingualism  undemocratic French CLASS system, even if they pass the
> ridiculous Kurdish exam, and French exam, within the Government and
> military, they cannot get promoted!  English students competing against
> Franco-Ontarions who force their way into English High School French
> Immersion programs (where these French students are bored, increase class
> sizes to an unnecessary 36 or more) , then demand a Higher level of French
> rather then having these children in a French High school to begin with (the
> reason is the French child CANNOT master French i.e. their marks would be in
> the low 50's or 60's! Meanwhile the English child faces a French teacher
> that ignores them , focuses on the French children and refuses to help the
> English children in any way until the English quit so they can actually get
> an education.  I've tutored these High School students who've worked hard
> learning French which they NEVER get to REALLY use and spoken to these
> teachers who could care less about their English students because the
> English are the enemy! There is a shortage of French teachers and many are
> incompetent, speak Creole (a French haitian dialect) and could care less
> about teaching French for the love of the language.  French learning English
> in Quebec (when they are able to get private tutors) whether children or
> adults generally learn English in 6 to 12 months simply because ENGLISH IS
> EASIER PERIOD and they hear it on television and use it on the internet and
> in 9 other provinces + Florida!! Chinese learn English, Yugoslavians learn
> English, etc.  Some French who travel to Florida think the Americans even
> should learn French!  The French aren't getting married and aren't having
> children.  If you don't include Quebec (where English is illegal and the
> majority are unilingual) ONLY 3.2% outside Quebec are french.  The Montfort
> Hospital in Ottawa thinks it's in Quebec and DOESN't have to offer English
> including SARS signs or speak English for its MOSTLY English patients.
> Maybe the English should refuse to go there until it closes down.  Air
> Canada in ruins (maybe if we didn't spend so much on Bilingualism, we'd have
> an air line, an Armed Forces that isn't a joke , Health Care that isn't in
> crisis, a decent Education system (the bottom line is children should be
> literate and bilingualism is a failure according to studies done on it!
> There are many Anglophones who were forced out of Quebec with sentiments
> like Vauten Chez Vous Maudit Anglais (go home stupid English) , Ferme ta
> Yelle Tetu (shut your muzzle sucker)  told constantly that they were 2nd
> class citizens, Rheal Mathieu getting only 6 months as an FLQ terrorist who
> bombed 2nd cup (oh yes Deep Blue) I forgot he's a Quebec hero!  400,000
> forced out of Quebec due to ethnic cleansing  and racism (National
> Geographic Nov 1997) The English losing their jobs in Quebec city for daring
> to speak English to a family member.  After all Quebec with it's illegal
> United Nations violation Bill C101  (article 20) : any advocacy of national
> , racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination,
> hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law. meanwhile our 35 years of
> French politicians has allowed this hatred of the English, perpetuated it.
> How about the King of France 1759 when he abandoned the French and created
> fear (guess he like the others who got executed during the French revolution
> was a saint), What about the French Catholic church (I am Catholic), I guess
> they were innocent forcing the French to have 13 to 24 unwanted children and
> NOT allowing them to get an education (they could be priests, doctors,
> lawyers and very little else) Premier Duplesis from the 1930's to the 1960's
> also CONTROLED the French. (including abusing Orphans falsely saying they
> were mentally challenged or giving them labotomies along with the french
> catholic church!  With Bill C101 , language Police , the Government to this
> day promotes Hatred of the English and CONTROLS the french by NOT allowing
> them to learn English. Quebec is a Police State two new books called le
> candien noir and l'americain noir (The ugly English canadian and the Ugly
> American!  So much for Pride in being of French decent or promoting
> Bilingualism
>
> The English should vote with one voice (like the French) for an English
> Prime Minister - the French liberals are controling the English through
> Bilingualism and allowing the French a disproportionate number of votes,
> senators and unearned power!  Paul Martin like Mulroney is French and will
> cater to Quebec!  End the 36 year reign of French prime ministers!
>
> CC
>
> Deep Blue <nobody@igs.net>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deep Blue" <nobody@igs.net>
> Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics,tor.general,van.general,calgary.general
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone
>
> > Well, it's all your fault, english people! If only you were doing the same
> > efforts to speak french that us french people do to speak english, those
> > stats would be more fair for you.
> >
> > And we're all still Canadians (no i'm not a separatist). So who cares if
> > there's more francophones than anglophones??? Just learn the french
> language
> > and be bilingual and get hired / promoted too !
> >
> > And while I love english because it's a very practical and direct
> language,
> > french is so beautiful and poetic! It's worth to learn it just to read all
> > those french books.
> >
> >
>
> "Deep Blue" <nobody@igs.net> wrote in message
> news:f2643490a599d002feeeebc0106a8fac@news.teranews.com...
> > Well, it's all your fault, english people! If only you were doing the same
> > efforts to speak french that us french people do to speak english, those
> > stats would be more fair for you.
> >
> > And we're all still Canadians (no i'm not a separatist). So who cares if
> > there's more francophones than anglophones??? Just learn the french
> language
> > and be bilingual and get hired / promoted too !
> >
> > And while I love english because it's a very practical and direct
> language,
> > french is so beautiful and poetic! It's worth to learn it just to read all
> > those french books.
> >
> >
> >
> > ~Deep Blue~
> >
> > "Andrew Bestfrenn" <Andrewbestfrenn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:c499781f.0304050425.47fd67db@posting.google.com...
> > > Global National News with Kevin Newman audio link
> > >
> > > Hear audio of Global Television News story confirming
> > > that 71% of all new hirings in the massive federal
> > > public service are going to Francophones, and that 68% of
> > > all job promotions are going to Francophones. Due to official
> > > bilingualism, while Quebec is allowed to remain officially unilingual
> > > French.  Francophones make up only a tiny fraction of the population
> > > outside Quebec, yet we are allowing them to take over our federal
> > > government.
> > >
> > > to hear the Global News audio
> > > click here:
> > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/global.mp3
> > >
> > > to hear a tape of human rights expert Dr. Ritchie on this
> > > topic go to:
> > >
> > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/CFRA-Part1.mp3
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/3minclipDrRitchie04.mp3
> > >
> > > for further information:
> > >
> > >
> > > www.languagefairness.org
> >
> >
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