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Re: Allan Rock sold you out. was: Illegal Guns

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From: Rosco
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <DK6pI2.5Cr@freenet.carleton.ca> Colin R. Leech 
(ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

> Rosco (Roger_Walker@CUEHere.bohica.net) writes:
> > Much evidence and reason has been
> > presented to prove that C-68 is unconstitutional, violates property 
> > rights,
> > violates the right to remain silent, violates the right to be secure from
> > unreasonable search and seizure, violates the privilege of the provinces 
> > to regulate property, etc.

> Then I'm sure we'll see it being taken to court for the ultimate test.

Since the precedents have been given to both the MPs and Senators, it is
very irresponsible of them to enact the legislation, knowing that such
precedents in court are against them. The fact that they did so anyway
indicates that they fully intend to make the exercise so expensive for
responsible people that they would simply give up. This has already happened
in the past, but responsible people are becoming more organized. With the
NFA's offer of legal help, there have already been a number of new
precedents, and a lot of cases simply dropped because the prosecutors knew
they'd lose with the NFA helping their intended victim.

> If it truly does all these things, your lobby group (whatever the NRA is
> called here in Canada) should have no difficulty in having it struck down
> on legal and/or constitutional grounds.

First of all, the NRA does not exist in Canada, and there is no affiliation
between firearms groups in Canada and the U.S.: They simply have different
concerns because of the differing legal atmospheres.

Secondly, the firearms community in Canada does not have a lobby group, like
the government sponsored Coalition for Gun Control that our opposition has.

Thirdly, I understand that there are negotiations underway to form an
umbrella organization whose mandate will be to look after the interests of
ALL firearms owners. But I am not a firearm owner, so I don't know for
sure.

Fourthly, the courts can be as fickle and stupid as our elected
representatives, at times. It is entirely possible that they will ignore the
fact that the regulations infringe on the consitituion, bill of rights,
common-law rights, etc.

I have already indicated the irresponsibility of our government for enacting
legislation that they already know doesn't meet proper legal requirements.
As I have also mentioned, if our government had any integrity, they wouldn't
have allowed things to get this far in the first place.

Roger Walker

roger_walker@cuehere.bohica.net


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From: Roger_Walker@CUEHere.bohica.net (Rosco)
Subject: Re: Allan Rock sold you out. was: Illegal Guns
Date: 1995/12/27
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