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In article <DJtuK6.3o4@freenet.carleton.ca> Colin R. Leech 
(ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

> it is stil
> *far* easier to break into somebody's house and steal their gun if you
> know that they have one.

And the easiest way to know that they do is by obtaining the information
from the new registration system. The fact remains that few homes are broken
into for their firearms. If they are found during the course of a B&E, they
are often taken, but they are seldom the object of a B&E.

> most robberies are not of the type where you could wake up in the
> middle of the night with the robber prowling through your bedroom.

But it does happen. Let us note that Britain, with its severe increase in
violence and crimes involving firearms (despite far greater restrictions
than we have now) has a higher proportion of breakins while the residents
are home. The reason is because the perps know they are less likely to be
met with opposition, and they are more daring because of it.

> Most
> residential breakings now occur during the daytime, since it is now
> unlikely that there is a family member home all day, or neighbours around
> as witnesses.

Quite true. I've had a recent burglary, and what was taken was the easy to
carry items with quick resale value (Money, CDs, jewelry). Other valuable
items were not taken because they were more difficult to carry or to dispose
of. If I still had firearms, they would have been locked in a safe, and
would have been even more difficult to carry off.

> It is ar easier to steal a private gun than to break into an
> armoury or police station.

If you want firearms in volume, it is far easier to get organized a bit and
steal them from one branch of the government or another. Do you remember
that the FLQ got many of the firearms from reserve armories. Many of these
are not even guarded.

> If people had to show a proper licence for the
> gun when buying ammunition, it would be far harder for these stolen guns
> to be used. Instead, I can walk into Canadina Tire and buy ammo to feed my
> stolen gun.

Of course, ammunition is even easier to steal than firearms, so it still
wouldn't make any difference.

> To repeat an overused expression: your right to throw a fist ends when it
> encounters my right not to have a bloody nose.

Quite correct. And until the instant that the fist connects (but more
appropriately, until I indicate that I am trying to connect with you), your
safety has not been infringed, and you have no right to infringe on me.

> My right
> to travel 200 km/hr on the left side of  a residential street is tempered
> by society's right not to have me endangering all the other users of the
> road.

You have no such right; you would have a right to travel, and to use the
roads. The regulations involved are intended to allow more people to use the
same facilities in safety. C-68/registration does not facilitate this at
all.

> Your right to build a 10 storey apartment building next door to me
> is tempered by my right not to have my solar panels living in your shadow
> (zoning laws).

Bad example, again: Commonlaw does not recognize rights to airspace. In many
cases, zoning laws will handle the situation, but it isn't likely to be
because of living in shadow.

> Your right to carry a gun is tempered by society's right to
> protect *all* of its members by minimizing the level of violence in society.

There is no relation. It would be more correct to say that the right to
carry/use a firearm ends when the individual doing so uses it to infringe on
the rights and safety of others. Until such time as you can demonstrate that
my responsible use of firearms is in any way related to violence in society
(which is impossible), any actions you take to restrict my activities
amounts to prior restraint without justification, which is wrong. Prior
restraint is only valid when applied to INDIVIDUALS who have previously
demonstrated irresponsible behavior related to the issue, in the past.

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