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Article #963Re: Illegal Guns (was: Re: The Montreal massacre - this date, 1989....)
From: Rosco
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <DJttsE.qn@freenet.carleton.ca> Colin R. Leech
(ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> Rosco (Roger_Walker@CUEHere.Edmonton.AB.CA) writes:
> > Being that it is far easier to obtain an illegal firearm than a legal one,
> > how do you come to such a conclusion. It is well known that you can obtain > > a black market firearm for less agravation and time (and possibly less
> > money), than participating in the system.
> The average person does *not* know how to do this.
Unfortunately, it appears that the average person knows nothing of the
issues they participate in discussions of, either. However, I will educate
them, then:
Go to any bar in the inner city, observe for a bit, and either make some
discrete enquiries, or wait for someone to ask you. Very easy. I'm sure the
reporters who did this (and got an illegal firearm within the hour) didn't
know how to either, but they managed.
> Because a victim is much more likely to survive a knife or fist attack
> than a bullet. Pretty obvious, isn't it?
This is only partly true. You leave out the fact that survivors often have
severe complications to live with for the rest of their lives. OTOH, I'm
sure you've already seen the statistics that total firearms deaths in the
same area as knife deaths. Aparently it isn't pretty obvious.
> If knives are just as dangerous as guns, you should go moose hunting with
> a knife. Pretty simple, huh?
Of course it is simple: It has nothing to do with how dangerous firearms are
versus how dangerous knives are. It has to do with how EFFECTIVE they are in
the hands of the person doing it. I can kill someone just as easily with a
knife as with a firearm, simply because they will not be expecting it. A
moose will fear any interaction with a human, so one cannot get close enough
(normally) to kill a moose with other than a firearm. For those keeping
track, I've also demonstrated "simplistic" versus "simple" :-)
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