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In ba.general Hugo S. Cunningham <checkwebsite@cyberussr.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 04:35:38 +0000 (UTC), Merlin Dorfman
> <dorfman@green.rahul.net> wrote:

>>In ba.general Disgruntled Customer <nowhere@nowhow.com> wrote:

> [...]

>>> When you think about it a little, the American support of Contras in Nicaragua or
>>> warlords in Afghanistan against the Taliban make America a state sponsor of
>>>  terrorism and insurgency against a foreign government. The exact same
>>> things the U.S. gets so upset with Syria and Iran over.
>>
>>     After the invasion of Iraq, Abu Ghraib, etc., the US has very
>>little moral authority in the world.

> If you insist that your rescuer be without sin, you will never find a
> human rescuer.

> FDR's sins in WW II were greater than G.W. Bush's in Iraq, but they
> were redeemed by FDR's competent achievement of worthwhile objectives,
> notably the destruction of Nazi Germany.

     First, I'm curious as to what you regard as FDR's sins in WW II.
I would include the evacuation of Japanese Americans, but they were
not tortured to the best of my knowledge.    What else did you have
in mind?
     However you are right that if w had been more successful in 
Iraq, things like Abu Ghraib would have been of less importance...
and might not have happened in the first place.  I believe a good case
can be made that Abu Ghraib is a symptom and result of policies that
were doomed to failure.

> If you were to rephrase your last sentence,
> "After the incompetence G.W. Bush has shown in Iraq and elsewhere, he
> holds appallingly little moral authority in the world."

> I would agree with you.

> --Hugo S. Cunningham