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In ba.general Rich Corinthian Leather <inexplicable@mysterious.net> wrote:
> Merlin Dorfman wrote:
>> In ba.general Rich Corinthian Leather <inexplicable@mysterious.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>>> In 1948, the UN had developed a partition plan so that Israelis and 
>>> Palestinians would have their own nations. The Zionist Jews disregarded 
>>> this plan and occupied all of Palestine. Israel, therefore, is an 
>>> illegal state. On top of this, Israel won't declare its international 
>>> borders and seeks to ethnically-cleanse all lands it wants. It illegally 
>>> refuses the right of return for the original inhabitants in clear 
>>> violation of international law.
>> 
>>      Where do you get this crap?  The Jews were delighted to get a
>> UN-sanctioned country as the result of partition.  The surrounding
>> Arab nations did not accept it, and invaded with the intention of
>> killing every Jew and eliminating Israel.  The Israelis won that war
>> (plus wars in 1956, 1967, and 1973) and offered to return the small
>> amount of land outside the partition that they had occupied, in 
>> return for peace.  The Arabs wouldn't even talk about it.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel/History

     No, you didn't get "The Zionist Jews disregarded this plan and
occupied all of Palestine" from there," in fact it says just the
opposite:

"The partition plan was rejected out of hand by the leadership of the 
Palestinian Arabs and by most of the Arab population. Most of the Jews 
accepted the proposal, in particular the Jewish Agency, which was the 
Jewish state-in-formation. Numerous records indicate the joy of 
Palestine's Jewish inhabitants as they attended the U.N. session voting 
for the division proposal. Up to this day, Israeli history books 
mention 29 November, the date of this session, as the most important 
date leading to the creation of the Israeli state."

"The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, May 14, 
1948 stated:

    We appeal ... to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to 
preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the 
basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its 
provisional and permanent institutions."

"Immediately following the Declaration of Independence of the State of 
Israel, Egyptian, Syrian, Iraqi, Jordanian, and Lebanese forces invaded 
the newly formed state on all fronts. In a desperate and costly war, 
Israel's newly formed and largely makeshift army eventually repelled 
the attacking armies, and then advanced its forces to occupy some of 
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the territory set aside under the Partition Plan for the Arabs and for 
the City of Jerusalem."

     You also draw a lot of conclusions not supported by the
articles you reference, such as that the State of Isreal is illegal,
that it wants to ethnically cleanse the occupied territories, and
that denial of the right of return for "refugees" is illegal.  So
I ask again: where do you get this crap?