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Rich, powerful occult behind many, many unsolved murders
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I was speaking today with a colleague, trying to get myself inside the head of a blood-drinker, and that of a rich and powerful blood-drinker at that. What strains the credulity of the average person is that they cannot believe that 'respectable', 'intelligent', 'prominent' people would engage in such things. Is it possible? But to better understand , research the life of Benjamin Franklin for some insight into the type of people I am referring to. Benjamin Franklin was both ingenious and satanic. In my research, the conclusion that I came to is that this belief system is also prevalent among some of the most prominent, prolific, and brilliant minds in the world. Hence, the rich and powerful involved, and very willing both to provide eachother victims and to help conceal the crimes. Some of these people are worshipped for their genious. Their genious is fed by evil, but their genious also produces immeasurable wealth and knowledge to mankind. The rich and powerful are heavily into hedonism. They recognize no boundaries. Their quest is to achieve complete omnipotence, and these people feel that they are performing A SERVICE TO HUMANITY each time they ritualistically take a life. Each time they give a life surge to the stronger among us. That is why the ritual murder is termed a 'sacrifice'. They are willing that humanity , (and the victim's loved ones) lose these people in order that the stronger among us, the smartest, perhaps even the ingenious, will gain , at any cost, greater fortitude, greater life force, to perform their great works in the service of mankind. This is also why the victims of this network tend to be the weaker underlings, society's discarded, such as poor and uneducated people/hitchhikers/ prostitutes. These are deemed to be the expendable sector of society, the equivalent of beef cattle, in service to the greater good of humanity. warning: graphic video of kosher slaughter process at kosher meat packing plant. (similar to satanic ritual torture of animals and people. Ancient practice of drinking blood of tortured victims/animals in occult rituals. Why? The blood of the tortured is the most ancient narcotic , going back to man's most primitive beginnings. The blood of the tortured is full of natural opiates (endorphin pain-killers) secreted by the brain into the blood stream. The blood of the tortured (animal or human) is also full of adrenaline, the natural stimulant that is secreted into the blood by the adrenal glands for the 'fight or flight' response . Thus pain and fear produce a harvest of opiates and stimulants from the glands of a mammal. graphic video of kosher slaughter: http://tinyurl.com/y8zfu8 (note how this death chamber is crafted to generate maximum terror in the animals.) Standard north american plants immediately kill the animal with a bolt through the head, far different from the kosher meat processing depicted here. In this video, notice how the slaughter chamber is crafted to provoke maximum terror among the animals, with the deafening sound of several hellish machines operating simultaneosly and the simultaneous death throes of several animals. Note how the machine immobilizes the head of the animals while its voice box is ripped from the throat with a hook after the throat is slit, to silence the animal, then the machine squeezes the torso of the animal, its blood draining into a grate and the legs then mechanically crushed to prevent it from standing while it dies slowly, . This is conducted to produce maximum pain and terror. (notice that part of the ritual is that if the animal makes eye contact with anyone else other than the appointed throat cutter, they are to kick blood into it's eyes.) In occult rituals, the victim is tortured and their blood drained into goblets. This blood is immediately drinken because it provides an incredible narcotic high. Just like many popular narcotics are actually a mixture of opiates and stimulants together (morphine and amphetamines) (codeine and caffeine). This ancient practice created an addiction among it's proponents. It became habitual, and also imbued with spiritual meaning among the ignorant. Ancient man did not understand why the blood of the tortured contained opiates and stimulants, or why drinking this blood made him feel like a god. He thought that this was his mystical connection with dark spirits, and the narcotic high a reward by spirits for his cruelty toward his I wonder how blood drinkers deal with these modern scourges of AIDS, hepc etc. ARe people known to be uninfected chosen? Maybe children or babies in cases that they wish to use actual human blood? Do they have access to the medical records of victims? Access to blood lab records or testing facilities? Somehow they are obtaining victims with clean blood. In case that blood safety is in question , I would guess that, as mentioned earlier, we can now synthesize same or even more powerful endorphin and adrenaline , in the form of narcotic mixtures,through plant-based opiates (endorphins) and stimulants (adrenaline) . If the blood cannot be used in the ritual, then the cult will use drugs. I am willing to bet that there is still a higher than average incidence of HIV among satanists, due to these factors. Especially back in the early 1980's before public awareness and the attendant precautions. My guess is that these rituals are often designed equally around ministering to the hormonal/bestial needs of these people. It is probable that those performing these acts feel that they reach a physically satiated state from participating. The act of committing the violence alone, under the proscribed ritual, does things to their blood and brain chemistry from which they derive strength, both spiritual and physical. A good analogy I can think of is sport hunters and sport fishermen, and especially sport fisherman, who unlike hunters, often release or discard their catch. There is no logical reason to lure fish and inflict pain on them, and then release them into the water. These are not particularly sadistic people either. There is something primordial and ancient about the life and death struggle of having a fish on the line. It is struggling for its life, fighting, and one must in turn resist its fight, in effect fight for one's life. Fight or flight hormones are released into the blood. Many people are addicted to the thrill of hooking a big fish, even if they throw it back. This is the adrenaline rush of the predator, of the hunter. Some people watch horror films for the same reason. They get an adrenaline rush from being frightened, and find that their sedentary and secure life dulls them into not hormonally experiencing life's daily struggle for survival. This is the adrenaline rush of the hunted. These are both fight or flight hormonal rushes that people are experiencing/achieving. That of the hunter and that of the hunted. There may be a crucial difference here. Satanists may be achieving a blood chemistry conducive to physical stamina, even genius, through ritualistic violence (adrenaline rush of the predator) followed by blood drinking, or perhaps the consumption of powerful narcotics containing both opiates and stimulants. (Mick Jagger, a knighted Freemason of the highest order, put out a record called 'Goats Head Soup', with a picture of a goats head in a pot. He was also a notorious user of heroine, and one of the Rolling Stones biggest hits is a song called 'Sympathy for the Devil'. Mick Jagger fits the exact profile of the satanic persona that I make reference to . Extremely wealthy, and revered, gifted and talented, at one point the subject of mass adoration at its absurd extreme. He achieved cult-status popularity. People worshipped him, and so he accepted their offerings......a very good candidate for satanism, to be recruited by the cult, to be made to drink human blood. He too would be sacrificing something in participation, sacrificing his morality as part of the process, likely in the hopes of attaining greater strength with which to reward his supporters, and earn their adulation. Jagger would be just a tiny cog, one of thousands and tens of thousands of prominent people who are 'dabbled' in the occult, dipped in the blood. I mention him here only because his occult past is fairly widely known. What was not known until recently is the extent of occultism, and the seriousness of it practitioners: their extremism. Bohemian Grove: satanic rituals of rich and powerful DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE WHAT IS BOHEMIAN GROVE? SEE THE TRUTH AS DOCUMENTED IN ALEX'S FILM, DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE Since 1873, the global elite has held secret meetings in the ancient redwood forest of Northern California. Members of the Bohemian Club, headquartered in San Francisco, CA, include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush family maintains a strong involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of this all-male organization don red, black and silver robes and conduct an occult ritual Wherein they Worship a giant stone owl, sacrificing a human being in effigy to What they call the "Great Owl of Bohemia." Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE watch the video online here: http://tinyurl.com/j29x9 (bear in mind that the ritual depicted here is for the 'outer circle', the largest and most mainstream gathering of the year. This is where each member is allowed to bring a guest. This is recruitment time. The real satanic stuff at the Grove goes on not in the summer time, when this video was shot, but in the autumn , and the autumn rituals are ultra secretive, include only insiders in tiny, concealed groups. The grove itself is a massive, thickly forested rural installation protected by the united states Secret Service. If ritual human sacrifice (murder) were to take place securely and secretly anywhere in America, it would have to be at a place like this, for it to remain a secret for so long, and it would likely be somewhere here, on this forested land, at some dark and obscure time of year.) Child abductee and child prostitute Paul Bonacci has written a book in which he describes taking part as a child in pedophile/murder rituals at Bohemian Grove) Skull and Bones: Secret Satanic Society of the political elite I. http://tinyurl.com/f9bme II. http://tinyurl.com/qrg9p Burned bodies are sometimes connected with rituals involving child sacrifice. The parents should be thoroughly investigated in any case in which a body is found burned, especially that of a youth. Burning the body is of course also a good means of destroying forensic evidence thoroughly. You burn up any finger prints or fibres, and/or conceal the type of injuries inflicted during the killing. I suspect the fire department therefore plays a very large role in secret societies. As far as media/police/establishment complicity in this: the mind boggles. A fish rots from the head down. If you have the allegiance of key offices of power, key to the power structures of society, that may be all that is required. Everyone in authority is with you, or they are out. 'You are with us, or you are against us.' From there follows mysterious hirings and firings, transfers , promotions, demotions. Recruitment. Blacklisting, blackballing, blackmailing, setups, defamations/character assassinations. Bribes. Payouts. Honors. Election financing/voter fraud. Murders. You name it, there are ways to achieve what we are discussing here. The system can be manipulated from within. What comes to mind is that virtually unlimited resources are expended. As in the Jack the Ripper murders (see the film >From Hell, featuring actor Johnny Depp), some of the killings appear to be 'silencings' or people being 'being disappeared' because they know something. Canada's justice system is really something too. How many of these apparently random 'first offence' killers are actually hired to silence people. If they are caught, they know that it means a maximum of about five to eight years inside. Not bad, if you are secretly paid a large sum of money. You do five years inside, but you are making fifty thousand a year to be there , and there is a good chance that you will not even be caught to begin with. Hollywood Films about secret societies to watch: >From Hell Skulls Skulls II Skulls III AS far as a network or a brotherhood, we already have words for some of those: gangs, mafia, etc. How deeply are the bikers, the rappers. or the mafioso tied up in this? Some these pimp 'street gangs' like the Crips and bloods in L.A. or the Canadian street gangs are heavily into child prostitution/procurement. In Halifax it was the Glasgow Guys , a black gang that had a nationwide network of pimps and recruited teenaged girls, transporting them from city to city. and murdering them if they tried to escape or threatened to tell anyone. It emerged that the leaders of many of these rap/pimp/rasta gangs have been heavily into voodoo, paganism, and attending wiccan events/occult parties and gatherings. Larry King was a black politician who ran a child pimping ring in Washington, D.C watch this film: http://tinyurl.com/ykdd9o It is a made-for television documentary that, mysteriously, never made it to air, its broadcast cancelled at the last minute by 'the powers that be'. If you want to know how deep and how high the corruption goes, watch 'The Clinton Chronicles' on Google video. one of the ancient Babylonian human sacrifice rituals involved parents burning their children alive as a sacrifice to 'Molech' Christine Van Hees was ritually sacrificed and burned by Dutroux and his cult. According to people in the area on the night of the murder, who heard a young woman screaming, one of the last utterances Van Hees is said to have issued: "No, not that! Stop! Mum!" Van Hees was murdered not far from her parents home, in the basement of an abandoned farm house, and as part of her torture was doused in kerosine and lit on fire. also of interest: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1024319,00.html Dutroux reveals that police helped in teens' kidnap BY AGENCIES IN ARLON, BELGIUM Marc Dutroux, whose face in court cannot be shown under Belgian law Marc Dutroux, the Belgian paedophile, revealed today that police officers helped him to abduct two young women whose bodies were later discovered buried in his garden. Testifying for the first time at his trial, Dutroux said that he abducted An Marchal, 17, and Eefje Lambrecks, 19, with the help of a heroin-addicted friend, who is also on trial, and two other men. "I later found out they were members of the police force," he told the court, without identifying them. Dutroux, 47, a convicted paedophile, is testifying on the third day of his trial in the small town of Arlon. He is accused of kidnapping, imprisoning and repeatedly raping six girls in the 1990s, and killing four of them. His defence team says that he was part of a large paedophile network that reached into the legal establishment. Dutroux told the court: "It is regrettable that four people can never come back. I cannot repair that. If I hadn't agreed to do what I did they would probably be alive. "I cannot accept all responsibility, but take responsibility for the role I played." Dutroux told the court that one of the police officers and his alleged drug-addict accomplice, Michel Lelièvre, raped Ms Marchal after the teenagers were kidnapped while on holiday near the Belgian coastal town of Ostende. But Dutroux denied murdering the two young women, who according to a post-mortem examination, were most likely to have been drugged until they were unconscious and then buried alive. Dutroux said that he left the two young women with Mr Lelièvre and a French accomplice, Bernard Weinstein, whom Dutroux has today denied killing, after previously admitting to murder while in custody. The two men planned to force the women into prostitution. Dutroux told the court: "I never thought that they were going to kill them. I find it a great shame that these girls died. It's a disaster." Their bodies were discovered by the police in September 1996, buried in the garden of a property belonging to Dutroux. A month before, the brutally abused bodies of Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo, two eight-year-old girls, were unearthed from another Dutroux property, along with that of Mr Weinstein. Post-mortem examination reports showed that the children had starved to death after being raped and beaten. ********** transcript of BBC television show broadcast throughout Europe: Correspondent: Belgium's X-Files Tx Date 5th May 2002 This script was made from audio tape - any inaccuracies are due to voices being unclear or inaudible Olenka Frenkiel says: In 1996 this woman came forward to tell the Belgian authorities she'd spent her childhood years as the victim of a paedophile network. She described a world of organised sexual abuse, torture and even murder. It was terrible, you didn't believe your eyes and I didn't believe that humans could do that. She talked of violent child sex orgies with politicians, judges and influential businessmen; a Belgian underworld in which the establishment has refused to believe. Claude Eerdekens says Voice over Regina Louf is a pathological liar; she's a woman who's invented a series of scenarios, which just don't stand up. Olenka Frenkiel says: A campaign followed to discredit her evidence. But now, in an exclusive interview, the policeman assigned to investigate her claims has broken his silence. He says the enquiry was blocked because it threatened to reveal too much. Rudy Hoskens says I'm convinced that she has been a victim - that's for sure. Olenka Frenkiel says: In June 1996 this Belgian slum revealed a bitter secret that would come to haunt the nation. The eyes of the world watched in horror. Into the light emerged two young girls. Laetitia, aged fourteen and Sabine just twelve were the latest in a long line of girls who'd gone missing. Marc Dutroux, a convicted rapist and kidnapper, had led the police to where he'd imprisoned them. Relief swept Belgium as their tearful homecoming was caught on camera. But it soon turned to horror when police revealed the secret cage hidden in the cellar of Dutroux's house. The girls had been kept here, drugged and repeatedly raped. But what of Belgium's other missing children. Eight year olds Julie and Melissa who were missing for more than a year and twelve others who'd vanished mysteriously. Was this a new lead in the hunt for them? The hopes of their parents were soon dashed. Within days Marc Dutroux led police to the site where the bodies of Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo were buried. The parents were informed but when the Russos asked to see their daughter, Melissa, for the last time, they were refused. Mother of Melissa Voice over We begged, we were crying to see her. Really we insisted with our lawyer, we really cried. They said no, it's not possible, that's the law. But we said what's the point of the law. And they said it's for your own psychological good. Carine Russo Voice over It's not up to them to know what's good for our psychological well-being. What would have been good for us was to be certain. Olenka Frenkiel says: It's six years since the police unearthed the bodies of Julie and Melissa buried in the garden of this house. What's extraordinary to me is that though Dutroux's in jail, he's never been tried for these crimes. It's as though the judicial system froze when faced with having to bring him to trial. Officially Dutroux lived on benefits yet this house, now derelict, was one of five that he owned. The bodies of two more missing girls were found at another of his houses- Efje Ambrecks and An Marchal. Aston PAUL MARCHAL Father of Victim I didn't believe that it was possible that children were kept in, in a cellar and were raped and, and kept there, until that Dutroux was, taken to prison and that he, that he could see the cellar. At the moment I had to believe. Olenka Frenkiel Before the murders Marc Dutroux had already been convicted of five charges of rape and kidnapping. Yet somehow he'd served only six years in jail before he was released back into the Charleroi underworld. This was once Belgium's industrial heartland but today its most famous industry is crime. Dutroux melted back into this realm of prostitution, drug traffic and stolen cars and began to plan his next project - the kidnap of children. For the parents now burying their murdered daughters after more than a year of fruitless searching, this was not the end of their nightmare. They would soon find out that Dutroux had been a prime suspect from the start, yet nothing had been done to save their girls. Melissa's father is still asking why his daughter was allowed to die. Aston GINO RUSSO Father of Melissa Voice over "Ten days after the kidnapping of Julie and Melissa in '95, three witnesses said it was Dutroux who was kidnapping children. But they don't go looking for Julie and Melissa at his house straight after the kidnapping. It's inexplicable. And he continues to kidnap other children. They put a special surveillance unit to watch Dutroux and he continues to kidnap children. It's inexplicable; the whole thing is inexplicable from start to finish." Frenkiel says: What is known is that Dutroux was finally caught when his white van was identified. It had been used to snatch a sixth girl, miles away from his home patch. The man who arrested Dutroux was Jean Marc Conerotte, an investigating magistrate. He became a national hero, uniquely respected by the parents of the murdered children. Paul Marchal "He is someone who want to know the truth. You can feel it when you talk to him, you can feel that he want to investigate, the he want to have the truth. He is a very good magistrate." Conerotte arrested Dutroux's associates. Among the first was Jean Michel Nihoul. Nihoul and Dutroux had been seen at the site of the latest abduction the night before. They'd been in constant phone contact the day it happened. And the next day Nihoul gave ten thousand pounds worth of drugs to an accomplice of Dutroux. One witness claimed, Nihoul had ordered a girl. Conerotte knew Nihoul had influential friends, he suspected he was the brains behind a network supplying clients with children to abuse. It's a charge Nihoul denies. Conerotte appealed to the public for information. "When I saw him walking down the stairs, I thought that I knew everything about him. It was a shock; I thought finally they stopped him. Regina Louf was one of the first to come forward. She said that as a child she'd been abused for many years in a paedophile network involving Nihoul and Dutroux. I remember Jean Michel Nihoul as a very cruel man; he abused children in a very sadistic way. She says that at the age of twelve she was taken with other children to sex parties. And, she told investigators, Dutroux was there, working for Nihoul. REGINA LOUF "Dutroux was a boy who brought drugs, cocaine and something like that, to these parties, who brought some girls, watched girls at these parties. Nihoul, he, he was a sort of party beast. Dutroux was more on the side." Nihoul denies he's ever met Regina Louf. But her story's never changed. Nihoul, she said, was one of those who organised the parties and invited the cream of Belgian society - judges, politicians and influential businessmen in order to compromise them. "It was big business, yeah and it was very well organised too. There was a lot of money going on there and a lot of blackmail also. They had a lot of parties; they filmed it even. So, yes, yes, it exists. I know it sounds crazy and I know that there is a big taboo on everything like that but it exists." Regina Louf's story was horrific. But her account of a violent paedophile underworld was by now reinforced by new witnesses, some of whom also named influential people. The investigation began. The witnesses' identities were protected. Each was given a codename beginning with X. Regina was X-1. They went up to X-9. Their testimonies became known as Belgium's X-Files. The task of trying to verify them fell to a young police investigator. RUDY HOSKENS Team Leader, Police investigation "They were telling stories we hadn't heard before in our lives. Things we couldn't believe at first. So we told ourselves, is this true? Could this be true? And when it is true it's very, it's very, it's frightening that things like that could happen". Rudy Hoskens "We had a special room for the interviews. It was specially kept for people who had been victimised by such matters. There was a camera in the room. They were done mostly in the evening or the early hours. When the interviews were finished, they were written down by a few people of my team, all the way from the first word to the last, literally." Frenkiel But before the investigation could get under way there was a bombshell. Jean Marc Conerotte, the man who'd arrested Dutroux, who'd saved the imprisoned girls, was sacked from the case. His removal caused a public outcry. Belgians lost faith in their judicial system: Crowds descended on the Palace of Justice and accused the courts of colluding with the killers. Crowds shouting The father of one of the murdered girls spoke for all. Gino Russo Subtitles "This decision is like spitting on the graves of Julie and Melissa." Gino Russo Voice over "As an investigating magistrate, Conerotte, who arrests ten people and they sack him and they appoint another investigation magistrate, Langlois, who's never done the job before. It's his first appointment in the most important investigation, in the biggest file of the century. You're going to put in an investigating magistrate who's never done the job before - can you understand that?" Three hundred thousand outraged Belgians marched through Brussels in a demonstration of grief and solidarity. This White March was the largest protest the country had ever seen. Frenkiel Belgians felt that the dismissal of Conerotte was a betrayal of Dutroux's victims, that it signalled the end of any real search for a network. The two rescued girls were overwhelmed. Laetitia Subtitle "Thank you for coming in such large numbers." Sabine Subtitle "Thank you all for coming." Olenka Frenkiel The country's highest legal authorities had removed the only judge in which the public had any faith because he'd attended a fund raising dinner for the families of missing children. A conflict of interest they'd called it; a lack of judgement. The government feared a revolution. Aston VINCENT DECROLY MP "I think there were a kind of insurrection climate, a kind of pre-revolutionary climate here. You know, the big powers in Belgium so the magistrates and the political circus, the government, the parliament, everything was totally discredited, everything was totally discredited." No one knew what to believe anymore. Rumour and speculation spawned a variety of wild theories. Actor "You will instigate ultimate fear." A full length feature film suggested the whole affair was part of an extreme right wing plot to destabilise the country. Aston 'Blue Belgium' by Rob Van Eyck "I'm very pleased Victor. Three hundred thousand idiots marching in Brussels and an ocean of white balloons - magnificent! Pathetic and impressive at the same time. We really got them exactly where we want them." To appease the public's concern, parliament set up the Dutroux Nihoul Commission. subtitles I propose that the commission observe a moment's silence. 00.15.22 Aston VINCENT DECROLY MP Commission member As the pressure grew more and more they decided, in a kind of panic climate, to create the commission because the political world had to try to find an answer. 00.15.35 Olenka Frenkiel But what the commission revealed was incompetence that beggared belief. Police had been told of Dutroux's plans to make money by kidnapping children. They had his house under surveillance throughout the abductions. They even searched inside and heard the sound of children but failed to find the dungeon. What it established beyond doubt was that the girls could have been saved. Aston CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP Commission member They had everything they needed to arrest Dutroux. That's the scandal of this affair. Dutroux was known; he had previous form. They had valid intelligence that he'd built the hiding place in the cellar for the little girls. There was information from Charleroi that the children could be at the house. But when the parliamentary commission began to ask why, was it incompetence or had someone in authority protected Dutroux, co-operation with their investigation stopped. Aston GINO RUSSO Father of Melissa Voice over "It was completely sabotaged to the point that all the work they did has been locked away in archives for thirty years. It was parliament that voted that on itself. Can you imagine?" If the commission's job had been to restore stability, to clear the air of insurrection, it worked. Olenka Frenkiel The danger to Belgium's establishment was over. But there was still no answer to the most important question - was the catalogue of failures pure incompetence or had Dutroux and his friends enjoyed protection? Were they protected? Aston CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP Commission member Voice over "On the question of protection we didn't discover much, unless you count the best protection that Dutroux could have had and that's the incompetence of Belgium's police and judicial system." Olenka Frenkiel But Jean Michel Nihoul, the man suspected of hiring Dutroux to kidnap children, was released from jail after just five months. It's still unclear if he'll ever come to trial and some members of the commission remain convinced he is protected. Vincent Decroly "We succeeded in demonstrating that Nihoul was really an artist in protection, really a specialised man in manipulating enquiries, policemen and judges. We had proof about that." Olenka Frenkiel Nihoul's release just left more unanswered questions for the families. The mother of Melissa, Carine Russo, has access to the legal evidence the court will bring against Dutroux. She's found no answers, nothing to clarify who stole, raped and killed her daughter. All charges Dutroux denies. Carine Russo Voice over "Five years on there's still no admission from Dutroux. There's no material evidence, no witness statements, which state that it was Dutroux who really kidnapped the children, who really raped them and who really killed them." 00.18.57 Gino Russo Voice over "It's a catastrophe because nothing is anymore clear today. Nothing is clear." Olenka Frenkiel The parents suspect Dutroux was not acting alone. That others were involved in abducting and hiding the girls. When he was briefly imprisoned for car theft in November 1995, Dutroux claims to have left the girls in his cellar, in this specially constructed cage with a little food and water. Olenka Frenkiel On his release, after nearly four months, Dutroux claims he'd found the children barely alive, that he tried to save them but they died in his arms. But for the Russos, this story can't be true. Carine Russo Voice over "Four months incarceration of two little girls of eight years old in a cellar in the middle of winter. But when I say cellar it's a little hide built inside the cellar, so it's tiny, three metres by two, even less. No windows, completely dark, they cut off the heating." Gino Russo Voice over They cut the electricity and heat. Carine Russo Voice over And no food - for four months. Then he says when he came out of prison four months later, they're still alive. Well then they're superhuman. It's unimaginable two children of eight holding out, alone, with nothing to sustain them - no food, no heat, no human, no psychological contact. Nothing. In a little cage like that for such a long time and survive. Olenka Frenkiel So how did they survive so long? Did someone else keep them alive? The Palace of Justice in Liege is the seat of one of Belgium's most powerful figures - Prosecutor General Anne Thily, who's in charge of the case. She says there's no evidence to contradict Dutroux's version of how the children died. So how did the children survive so long? Nearly four months, until Dutroux was released from prison. 00.21.12 Aston ANNE THILY Prosecutor General Voice over No, no, Julie was dead. Melissa was nearly dead and then she died. I think it was the next day. But Melissa, how could she have survived nearly four months? Anne Thily Voice over Survive in what condition? In a lamentable state, she was so weak she could not get up. That's according to Dutroux of course; no one else was there. Dutroux was acting alone. This is the mantra repeated again and again in Belgium with a certitude that for the victims' parents is inexplicable. They believe that investigators have blocked every lead, rejected every clue, which would reveal that Dutroux was kidnapping girls for someone else. Most painful perhaps is the autopsy report, which shows Melissa had been repeatedly raped about two weeks before her death, while Dutroux was in jail. So who raped this child? Dutroux denies he raped the girls. But isn't it simple to find out if Dutroux raped them or someone else - scientifically? Carine Russo Voice over "Normally yes, in principal, yes. But in fact the most elementary scientific tests, like DNA tests, the traces of the culprit on the body of the child, were just not done." Back in the Palace of Justice they say the DNA tests were done but the results were inconclusive. Can you explain why there was no DNA analysis done? Anne Thily Voice over DNA analysis was done Madame! Olenka Frenkiel And the results? Anne Thily Voice over Nothing. Frenkiel What does that mean? That there was no trace of sperm? Anne Thily Voice over They were in a very putrefied state. It did not allow us to make an analysis of that type, of sperm or anything. Olenka Frenkiel That's not what's written in the autopsy report. Again the story doesn't square. The bodies weren't severely decomposed. DNA can be identified from samples taken long after death. The question remains unanswered - why is there no DNA result, might it have shown that someone else had raped Melissa? Other forensic tests that should have been routine were just not done. Human hairs collected from Dutroux's dungeon weren't sent for analysis. The logic was strange. They claimed that as there was no evidence anyone else had entered the cage, there was no need to analyse the hair. In five years Conerotte's successor has shed no light on the abduction, imprisonment or death of the girls. Jacques Langlois refused to be interviewed. PAUL MARCHAL Father "Langlois don't believe in a sort of network. For Langlois, Dutroux is the only one who used the girls. For Langlois it's, it's simple; there's one raper, Dutroux, a closed case." Frenkiel By the Spring of 1997, evidence of a paedophile network linked to the Dutroux affair was emerging from the testimony of the X witnesses. Regina Louf had provided investigators with details of her childhood abuse, which they'd begun to check. RUDY HOSKENS Team Leader, Police investigation "In one of her testimonies she explained how a certain person had been murdered in a certain place. So, we went to look for that case, that old case, she described it, where it happened more or less." REGINA LOUF "I remember it like it's a film in my head. I can close my eyes and see every little detail of that house she was murdered." Olenka Frenkiel Regina Louf described a house where in 1984 she said she saw the torture and murder of a young girl. The house was connected to an underground mushroom farm. The building has since been demolished. But Rudy Hoskens' team identified it and matched Regina's story to an unsolved murder - that of fifteen year old Christine van Hees. Rudy Hoskens "She gave us some details that made us think it's impossible to give without having been there at that place, or without having, yeah, lived that in the way the body was found at that time and the way she described the person was, was killed. There were some things that were exact." Regina Louf "It was a sort of bondage, so her legs and her hands and her throat were connected with the same rope and when she moved she strangled herself, yeah." Frenkiel The credibility of Regina Louf's testimony hinged partly on whether she really knew the house where Christine Van Hees was killed. This man grew up there, though his family sold it before the murder. It was two houses knocked into one with a unique passage of stairs and corridors. No one, he says, could describe it unless they'd been there. Man Voice over "There was the corridor here between the two houses. And she drew a picture of the doors inside. They were antique doors and she drew the mouldings. She described the wallpaper and the front step. I don't know how she could have described it all so faithfully if she'd never entered the house." Man Voice over "I don't know Regina Louf; I've never even met her. All I know is from her description of the house, of the mushroom farm, my brother and I agreed, I'm sure, it's certain she entered the mushroom farm. It's certain. " Frenkiel The police were now convinced they were on to something. That Regina Louf's testimony was credible. What's more it gave them a new link between Marc Dutroux and the man accused of being his boss, Jean Michel Nihoul. In the year before her death, Christine Van Hees was a regular visitor to the Brussels ice-rink where Marc Dutroux also went. He'd already been banned from the rink in Charleroi where he was notorious for molesting girls. The manager remembers it well. Ice rink manager Voice over "And then I saw him with a young girl who was up against the lockers like this. And Dutroux, who was in front of her with his hands all over her like this." So I grabbed him and pulled him back and brought him over here. At that moment my father-in-law turned up and when he found out what was happening he wanted to hit him. So I grabbed his arm, otherwise he would have punched him." Frenkiel When she wasn't skating Christine Van Hees used to spend time in the building of a pirate radio station. It belonged to Jean Michel Nihoul. Both men, Dutroux and Nihoul, were at Christine Van Hees's murder, according to Regina Louf. And Dutroux was involved in the murder? Regina Louf "He watched it and he didn't do something, anything and also he abused her that night, so, yes, he was involved." How many people were there? Regina Louf "I still don't know for sure. But around eight." Nihoul, Dutroux? Regina Louf "And a lot of others. So. But everybody except Dutroux is free." Oenka Frenkiel Nihoul denied it. But her testimony was dynamite. If true, it meant Dutroux and Nihoul were linked with another murder. But then out of the blue the investigation was stopped. Rudy Hoskens "We received a message that we couldn't investigate anymore just like that. We were sent home. Just like that, without an explanation because our work hadn't been done all right. Very strange." Olenka Frenkiel Why were you taken off this case? Rudy Hoskens "I wish I knew. Perhaps we were touching something we, we couldn't touch. Some people say this, we didn't have the proof at that moment to say things like that but perhaps we were coming closer to some things, yeah, perhaps." Olenka Frenkiel Like what things? Rudy Hoskens I don't know, something Belgium or the world shouldn't know about. Olenka Frenkiel Patric De Baets, the head of Hoskens' team, had been one of Belgium's most respected police investigators. It was he who'd taken Regina's testimony. Now he too was sent home, accused of manipulating her evidence. Patric De Baets, who questioned her, was accused of planting some of the information so that she would reproduce it. You watched that investigation. Was that true? Rudy Hoskens No, no way. No way. We even had some magistrates, judges and superior gendarmerie officers watching how we interviewed and they watched it from the first to the last moment and if we did, hadn't done it right at that time, they should have said to us, don't work that way. But they didn't tell us anything. Olenka Frenkiel For De Baets and his colleagues, charged with manipulating an enquiry, a Kafkaesque battle now began to clear their names. They were suspended and Regina Louf got a call from a member of the new team assigned in their place. His motive was clear. Regina Louf "He said well, we have to search for mistakes you made now and you have to prove now that you were right. I said no, I don't have to prove that I'm right. You have to investigate if I'm right or not. I'm not a police officer, I can't do house search and I can't interrogate my abusers, you have to do that. I just can tell my story and, and make testimony, that's all I can do. He said wrong, you have to prove it." Olenka Frenkiel News about Regina's story began to leak out. When the media took it up, it was to destroy her. Voice over Subtitles "X-1 and her fantasies - an investigation beyond the real." Presenter Madame, Monsieur, bonsoir... Olenka Frenkiel The flagship programme of the government funded French language channel was unequivocal. De Baets was guilty they declared and Regain Louf, a sinister and deranged liar. Claude Eerdekens Voice over I think Regina Louf is a pathological liar. She's a woman who's invented scenarios that don't stand up to scrutiny. It's all been shown to be fiction. Olenka Frenkiel Well no, not according to the investigators who were sacked. They don't agree with you, they say they weren't even allowed to investigate. Claude Eerdekens Voice over No, that's not accurate. I continue to believe these men did not do their jobs properly and that they let the public think that what Regina Louf and the other anonymous witnesses said was partly true. That's all a tissue of lies, stories verging on the pornographic. They make no sense. Oenka Frenkiel Weren't you manipulated? I mean people have said she was completely mad; she invented the whole thing. Rudy Hoskens "Well some people fear, some people say this but they weren't there. We lived all the testimonies, we've seen them, we did the investigations. So, for ourselves, we know what should have been right or what could have been wrong. But when you don't, when you haven't lived it, when you haven't seen everything, you can't give an opinion on this, it's impossible. But we found some things that should have been investigated more." Regina Louf "I am married for thirteen years, I have four children, I live a normal life. I have a business of my own so I am not crazy. We are labelled as crazy, we have a stigma, we are stigmatised as crazy persons because we had the courage to talk about things that happened in our past. With person who played a role in the Belgian economy or politics or something like that. It was easier to make us crazy than to believe us." Olenka Frenkiel Despite its earlier investigating zeal, Belgium's parliament now stood by as Regina Louf's testimony was declared worthless. The judiciary announced it would not be used in any trial. Snf that might have been the end of it had the files of the entire Dutroux investigation not been leaked. Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck and two other investigative journalists had access to every witness statement, every police report in the Dutroux affair. Their book on Belgium's X-Files shook the country. Frenkiel How did you get the information for the book? Aston MARIE-JEANNE VAN HEESWYCK Journalist "We had the opportunity to see the whole police file on the, the affair and the problem is that we wanted to be sure that there was no manipulation between, behind that because it's, it's always possible. So, we decided to meet a lot of people who were named in the files, who were witnesses in the file. And we met those people, without saying that, what we knew already. And we listened to their story." Olenka Frenkiel They found the new team had rewritten Regina Louf's original statements. Testimony had been changed. Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck "We began to check it. And we began to read again all the questioning of Regina Louf to see how they did that, rewrite it. And one by one we discovered that the gendarmes, police of De Baets, had pretended that De Baets manipulate, had manipulated the investigation. So everybody was tricked." Olenka Frenkiel To this day no evidence has ever been produced to support the allegations against De Baets. Yet he continues to be accused. I met him and his colleague in a Brussels café. Their careers are in ruins and the investigation into Regina's story is dead. And yet two separate inquires, cleared them of every charge that they manipulated her testimony. Patric De Baets "I show you the final report of the internal inquiry of the gendarmerie. It was made twenty-sixth June 2000." Frenkiel So what does this mean? Patric De Baets "That I'm not a bad policeman." Olenka Frenkiel But now that's cleared you, you face new, new charges, new allegations, new accusations against you. Patric De Baets I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid of that because I know the conclusions will be the same. Olenka Frenkiel But why this constant barrage of accusations? Patric De Baets I don't know. I can imagination things but I can't explain them. Olenka Frenkiel For six years the parents of the murdered girls have grappled with the inexplicable. Why were their daughters left to die? Why has Dutroux never come to trial and why has every lead that might have revealed a network behind Dutroux been blocked or ignored? But Belgium's lost interest in their struggle. Today anyone who talks of a network, even the parents, is dismissed as deranged. Paul Marchal I talked in press about children who were raped and so on and they started again with saying that I'm a little bit foolish and that I'm fantasising. I'm sure that in several years everyone will believe that networks will exist then they have to accept. Olenka Frenkiel Since Marc Dutroux's arrest anyone who's questioned the official line has been attacked. Every lead that might have widened the net has hit the buffers. Dutroux meanwhile has sat in jail. But outside, in the shadowy circles in which he moved, potential witnesses in the Dutroux affair have died in strange ways. A police informer with links to the Charleroi underworld, Jose Steppe, told a journalist he had explosive information on Dutroux. Two days before they were due to meet he died. His family believes he was poisoned. Jean Paul Tamino was up to his neck in the Charleroi underworld of stolen cars and prostitution. He was summoned to see the Charleroi police and disappeared. The day of Dutroux's arrest his foot was fished out of the canal. Regina Louf "It's quite a coincidence that they die just before they want to testify, you know, that's strange." Olenka Frenkiel Social worker, Gina Pardaens worked with abused children. She'd identified the paedophile members of a pornography ring who'd threatened her. When she reported the threat to the police she was killed in an unexplained car crash. Francois Reyskens told a friend he'd seen one of the missing girls, Melissa, alive in Holland. Before he could tell the police his body was found crushed on the railway line. (sound of Train). Olenka Frenkiel Some twenty people, all potential witnesses in the Dutroux affair, have died in mysterious circumstances. Regina Louf "I survived it all, I don't know why. I survived my abusers, I survived my testimony just because I said it all. Why kill me now, you know, I'm mad." Olenka Frenkiel An uneasy peace has returned to Belgium. The streets are calm; the danger of insurrection has passed. The paedophile networks persist. Sometimes there are even arrests. Earlier this year nineteen men from one village were charged with child rape. But the Dutroux affair has paralysed Belgium's judiciary. After six years in jail, there is still no date for his trial. When it comes, it will satisfy no one. Paul Marchal The trial of Dutroux, it will be a theatre, circus and I don't want to be part of a circus. The truth is that there is a network and that they have to search for that network so that you can save other children in the future. Carine Russo Voice over "In this country we will never get to the truth. There is just too much truth that needs to be exposed. I am certain that the people want to understand; they are capable of understanding a lot more than the politicians and judiciary want to tell them. They treat the public like children." Regina Louf "I did what I could do. I testified, I spoke up to the police, to the judges, I spoke up to the press, you know, I yelled it out. What can I do anymore now, I can't." Olenka Frenkiel Children continue to go missing in Belgium. Dutroux's arrest has made no difference. Last year it was more than two thousand. Fifty-two of those cases remain unsolved. Voice over Olenka Frenkiel is live on-line now. Express your opinions and e-mail her your questions at: www.bbc.co.uk/correspondent Reporter OLENKA FRENKIEL **************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=203148388 Latest on Canadian Pig Farmer, Robert Pickton's Serial Murder Trial: Judge Steps Down Published on Thursday, June 02, 2005 | Author MORRIS, Nick. Justice Geoffrey Barrow of British Columbia Supreme Court, the judge that was scheduled to preside over Canada's most prolific murder case was replaced Wednesday just days into pre-trial proceedings. Justice Barrow is stepping down from the trial of Robert Pickton, who stands accused of at least 22 murders and is believed to be Canada's most prolific serial killer. Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm informed lawyers at a short hearing that Justice Barrow cannot hear the case due to "scheduling problems." Dohm said he'll be replaced by Justice James Williams, who normally sits in New Westminster's Supreme Court. Pickton watched the events unfold as he appeared via a video link from the pre-trial centre, where he is currently incarcerated. Dressed in a black and grey shirt, he passively observed the scene in the courtroom. Pickton viewed proceedings via video link. Pickton viewed proceedings via video link. (?AP) Justice Barrow had only heard two days worth of arguments for and against a strict publication ban on pre-trial proceedings, that has been imposed on the trial. The hearing is due to resume on Friday and lawyers have been informed that they will need to recap their views on the ban. Dohm has said "The court will not lose any real time in this change." Pickton, a pig farmer from Vancouver's Port Coquitlam district has been in custody since his arrest on 7 February 2002, following a lengthy search of his farm and other properties he has owned. The search revealed the remains of 15 bodies located on his farm. In January of 2004 the remains of a further 10 women were found. In total 31 separate traces of DNA have been found on Pickton's property. Most of the victims are believed to have been vulnerable women working in the sex-trade in Vancouver's seedy Downtown Eastside area. The first woman to go missing from the area was Rebecca Guno, a prostitute and drug addict, in June of 1983. Since her disappearance, 61 women have been reported as missing from the BC area. It was not until early 2002, 19 years after the first woman vanished, that police made any charges in connection with any of the disappearances. After a few months of searching Pickton's pig farm, police charged him with seven counts of murder. In September and October of 2002 he was charged with a further eight counts of murder, following the discovery of yet more remains on his property. DNA traces of another victim were discovered on 9 January 2003, just days before Pickton's 13 January pre-trial, but officers announced that they would not be adding any further charges until afterwards, fearing that it would cause lengthy delays to the case. Crown prosecutor Mike Petrie and Pickton's defence lawyer Peter Ritchie would not comment on the reasons behind the switch of judges and how they felt about it, but the public opinion is one of surprise. Many feel that problems such as scheduling should have been considered before the preliminary hearing began. The general consensus was that the trial would continue into next year. Justice James Williams will preside over the restarted preliminary hearing when it starts this Friday. ******************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://tinyurl.com/yxbp83 'On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been ground up and mixed with pork from the farm. This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to friends and visitors of the farm.' ************* the way this system operates is that key people are put in key places. For example Republican (so-called conservative) Congressman Mark Foley was revealed to be aggressively gay in pursuit of male teenagers and youth working as pages in the house. Then we find that he was placed in positions to influence policy in certain ways: http://tinyurl.com/yx269u 'Foley played a leadership role on AIDS issues, supported the Employment Not-Discrimination Act, opposed anti-gay provisions of faith-based legislation, and voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. He also co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus and helped to write much of the legislation regarding prosecution of pedophiles and child pornographers.' ****************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://xfilescanada.spaces.live.com/blog/ Pickton Murders The lawyer representing U.S. television stations said he does not believe the publication ban covers the Internet. But the stations have said they will black out transmissions to Canada. RCMP Const. Katherine Galliford said "police will be watching for violations of the publication ban." She goes on to say "And if there are any concerns that come to light we'll certainly investigate that further," Mentioning nothing about possible connections to missing children, or other serial killers involved in satanic cults reaching at least from Mission to Vancouver. She makes no comment that the police have stood down their watch on the Vancouver East Side. In May 2005, Crown attorneys added 12 more first-degree murder charges against Pickton, bringing the grim total to 27. Rebecca Guno, a drug addict and prostitute, vanished from Vancouver's downtown eastside in June 1983. Her name was the first of 61 that would eventually be placed on the list of women to disappear mysteriously from the drug-infested area over the two decades that followed. It wasn't until 19 years later, early in 2002, that charges were laid in any of the cases. The charges came not long after police focused their efforts on a farm in Port Coquitlam, outside Vancouver. Dozens of officers scoured the farm in search of evidence. Within months, the owner of that farm, 53-year-old Robert William Pickton, would face seven murder charges. September 1998: - Vancouver police set up a team to review files of up to 40 women missing as far back as 1971. One tracked down, deaths of two others from illeness, overdose, confirmed but no trace of many others. In July 2002, police made a plea for the public's help in locating nine more missing women, and said that if they cannot be found, their names will be added to the list of 54 other women who are missing. In the spring of 1999, two Vancouver detectives teamed up with two RCMP detectives to review the file pertaining to the 31 missing women. In August of that year police began investigating an account by a woman, not a prostitute, who said that a man snatched her from the stairwell of a hotel in Vancouver's downtown eastside. The woman jumped from her captor's moving vehicle to escape. Accusations that police haven't done enough reached a fever pitch when former detective and geographic profiler Kim Rossmo claimed he told police that a serial killer was at work in the Vancouver area and was ignored. Rossmo said that disappearances from the neighborhood were normal, but that the number of incidents was abnormally high between 1995 and 1998. "If these activities go back to, say, 1995, seven years ago, some of (the victims) could be buried fairly deep," says former Vancouver police officer Kim Rossmo, an expert in serial killers. Contrary to his earlier statment for some unknown reason, he later says,"Now, one factor to the benefit of the police is criminals are lazy, so they're not going to be 40 feet below the surface," Rossmo, who sued the Vancouver department for wrongful dismissal when they failed to renew his contract, claimed that a single predator was responsible for killing prostitutes in downtown Vancouver. The Vancouver department dismissed his claims as sour grapes. In 1998 I was introduced to Willy Pickton by a local Freemason West Baker. "Be careful, not everyone that has gone down that road has come back" was the ominous warning he gave me, he also warned me to stay out of the pig barn after 11:00 pm, or I would be horrified at what I saw, as Willy liked to butcher all different kinds of animals, in all different ways, like a Nazi doctor experimenting on Jews might. At first it seemed there was very little out of the ordinary, except the saturday "cock fights", and the all night orgies and strange foods at "Piggies Palace" however, after the news broke in 2002, creepy things just outside of my awareness started to make a whole lot more sense, and I, having done business there, was publicly requested to give a statment to the police. So I attended a series of interviews with the police "Missing women's task force" regarding the matter and submitted my dna sample as requested, spent hours under the lights and camera, almost as if I was on the spot. I was assured my dna would only be used in this case, I found this to be untrue, much later. I noticed something strange about the whole thing though. Appathy. They didn't seem to care about the implications of what I said, they were more interested in what I knew, they didn't seem to have the humanity, they were strangly detached, so I tested them a little, and found them not interested in the victims, or the truth behind the implications. I suggested, perhapse they start a missing children's task force, they thought that was funny, their micro expressions gave that away, though they didn't laugh. All of a sudden, it dawned on me, their in on it, the vancouver police were rounding them up, and Willy Pickton who dealt with them on a weekly basis, (he had an inside track on abandoned vehicles), was getting another cleanup contract, all the girls who were robbing the other drug addicts, instead of normal citizens, and were unable to re-pay their dealers, and had deteriorated (look at their faces) to a point as to be useless as prostitutes, were flaged by the Hell's Angels. Delivered to the farm in abandoned vehicles, and proccessed by Willy who was a mechanic, and a butcher. I realised the taskforce was compromised some how, so I pretended to still be their friend, and conducted my own investigation. As my own investigations, and "interviews" later revieled, the victim's thyroid glands, adrenaline glands, and other "Delacacies" were extracted from the dead, or sometimes still living beings, before the rest was put through a wood chipper, and fed to the "Piggies" Willy called them. Before the Media Ban, the Mayor of Port Coquitlam admitted to dining at a farm also owned by the Picktons, just down the road from Dominion St, there is an ominous quancet, on Burns Road the infamous "Piggies Palace". There were blood rituals there, adrenaline glands as appatizers, next to the cocaine dishes, during an all night orgy, the girls not yet ready to be served were kept captive at another location, and brought out as they were needed, for what ever purpose...so... here I am, kind of the odd man out so to speak, surrounded by vampyres, from dusk till dawn, so to speak with no real idea what was going on until much later. Politicans connected to Hell's Angels, connected to free Masons, oddfellows, illuminati, witches, warlocks, satanists, police, my "friends". Judges that put the media ban on this are in league with them as well too, Conrad Black owns all of our media, is a buildiberger. It would seem that these secret societies run our whole world, and they eat us too. Well, I really didn't expect to find this but I did. After the horror I saw, it will be a release if they come to kill me, cause I havn't even got to the best part yet, the tunnels. More of the missing woman and children should be found in the old train tunnels of New Westminster, than run deep underground to vancouver and to coquitlam, where they are blood fed, and put to use as required, people often hear them under the city, in the sewers, and under the stores along Front St. women sobbing, children crying, they are believed to be ghosts when heard, so people back track real quick, and never made the true discovery yet, but I did. Take a walk in the old abandoned train tunnel at waterfront station in Vancouver if you want to meet them. Most of those people are no longer people anymore, they would kill a person who tryed to save them, like a cat raised in an apartment, they would run from an open door to freedom. The royal engineers from old Westminster in England, brought these tunneling practices from their country over here, as well as their secret societies, and did their merlin black magic rituals with them. Some of those people in the tunnels, have been born and raised there, and they eat their dead. I just don't think social services can handle that kind of rehabilitation, I don't know just what we should do, it would appear if you follow the traces, back through the Freemasons and such...I bet even the Queen is blood fed...no wonder heaven won't help us. Somehow Dave pickton got the contract to demolish and excavate Woodlands Insane Assylum, fitting, he has experience excavating mass unmarked graves, who else would the city of New Westmonster call. Did you ever wonder where all of those in-patients from RiverView and Woodlands went?? They did't just release 500 insane people... did they? P and B Used Building Supplies, and P and B Salvage are just two of the companies owned by Dave and family. I heard another recent little tid bit from the Pickton's self proclaimed "good friend" of 25 years, West Baker, who runs the surplus store 623 front street, New Westminster, who has 200 institutional meal trays in his back store-room (for some reason), and an access tunnel to the underground cattacombs of New West, who has strong connections (sells them explosives such as live grenades) with local Nazi activists, (Dale you know who you are) who also lives commonlaw with Kathy Arcand, Dave Pickton's Ex-Goulfriend. West claimes that Willy Pickton owns all the land that the Picktons still hold, they just switched around the titles and holdings, and the fun loving Willy is ripping us tax payers off for a team of lawyers that he doesn't pay for, so when they all help him get away with it too, like they did when he went to trial in 1994 for stabbing a prostitute in the back several times, she managed the knife away from him and slit his throat in self defence, so he got off... So i'ts business as usual, Dave wont even speak to Willy, because he doesn't want to blow their cover. Dave goes to Sturges, where they make their plans for September... As for this going on elseware, I think all the world should check very carefully for strange things in the cattacombs and tunnels of their cities, you never know, there could be someones loved one there, waiting for the light of day. **************** check out the blood-drinker headed down into what could be one of North Korea's tunnels: http://tinyurl.com/yldqb8 this brief segment of street-level surveillance video of street-goers was shot in one of North Korea's occult power centers, all shot within close proximity of oneanother (area dominated by massive masonic obelisk monument) over the course of one morning. a bureaucratic office complex area infested with military police and what appear to be bureaucrats. (the person is pale, with a red scarf, and a white shirt stained with blood) ************ for an idea of how crazy things can get watch The Clinton Chronicles: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3251077391435895140&q=clinton... ************ Hells Angels The Hells Angels actually have a direct connection & origin with Skull n' Bones. It might seem bizarre but here it is: The Hells Angels in the early days were made up in large part of Vietnam War veterans, who brought back with them their penchant for opium trafficking. There was a huge illicit drug trade component to the Korean and Vietnamese wars. A good Hollywood film about this is the film Air America starring Mel Gibson (1990) about the CIA's private airline, and their drug smuggling operations in Cambodia (CIA sold drugs and guns in Laos during the Vietnam War to finance its secret operations in SouthEast asia) Anyway, there are some who say the Vietnam War was exactly what JFK thought it was and tried to prevent: an unecessary war that turned out to be nothing more than a gigantic arms dealer / drug lord scam foisted on the American people. The war meant tens of billions to American gun, armaments, chemical weapons, and munitions dealers, not to mention drug lords, and when JFK threatened to disband the CIA and cease their plans for the war in Vietnam, it was one of the reasons that the CIA assassinated JFK. watch JFKII on Google video for an excellent recap of why JFK was killed and who did it. Anyway, the Hells Angels was composed largely of 'retired' and drug-addicted Vietnam-era CIA operatives and cocaine-snorting war veterans.(burnouts) who had lived their entire careers /lives outside/above the law during their varous oversees and domestic adventures. They were not a very pleasant group of people . George Bush Senior and his CIA skull n' Bones clan assassinated JFK & launched the Vietnam War under Lyndon B. Johnson. The Hells Angels have always been a distribution conduit/network for illegal drugs imported by the CIA into NA. (Guess they were sick of letting the Italian mafiosos make all the money! so they let their fellow Bonesmen's friends and CIA running dogs take over a lot of the street traffic. So, now you know why the Angels always seem to be connected with this occult stuff. They are called 'Hells'' Angels for a reason, you know! To get up to speed on the whole JFK thing watch the following film online here: http://tinyurl.com/yfja2y JFK II and also rent Oliver Stone's 1991 film 'JFK', starring Kevin Costner as chief prosecutor . I have little doubt now that many of these 'serial murders' throughout the christian world, are actually ritual rapes and blood-drinkings and burnings carried out by Skull n' Bones -type cults, involving essentially the most dangerous and brazen and deadly people in the world: the Secret Services and Intellegencia at the pinnacle of the world's political and economic elite.. It could be that these bodies are being discarded from flying planes in the same that these planes do regular drug drops. actually my background on the Hell's Angels was not quite accurate, in that it implied that the Hell's Angels formed only after the Vietnam War. The gang actually had its roots from the Korean war, because a big part of the CIA role in the wars in both Korea and Vietnam were about trading guns for drugs. Exporting guns to SouthEast asia, to BOTH sides, often in exchange for drugs to be brought back to the U.S. via Air America, the CIA's unofficial airforce. After all, how are you going to start a profitable war in Asia, selling guns to both sides, if a lot of people cannot even afford to buy your guns? The solution was to trade guns for drugs, to link up with the drug mafias in Asia. Fly tons of guns and ammunition into S.E. Asia, and on the same planes fly back tons of drugs , (cocaine and heroine and hashish you name it) into the United States. (usually the west coast, which is part of the reason LeftCoast Lotusland has its reputation as a druggie haven) The CIA needed a conduit for taking delivery of the drugs in the U.S. , and this is where the Hells Angels had their beginnings. Even the corpses of returning Vietnam War soldiers were packed with heroine and cocaine. When the Vietnam War ended, the CIA started up their adventures in South America, mainly because that was their business, and the end of the Vietnam War meant they needed a new gig. Their business was and is to start wars in drug-producing regions, and trade armaments for drugs to be imported into the U.S. and other countries. I am sure there were more than a few incidents of bikers and mafia harrassing or ordering hits on Vietnam War protesters and peace activists. Anyway, the same pattern has continued to this day. The opium production of Afghanistan has tripled since the U.S. invaded in 2001. My guess is that the heroine trade from Florida and New Orleans, north to New York is flourishing, as that is a likely conduit point for the drugs coming out of the Middle East. ***************** Ted Gunderson and the CIA's International Trafficking in Children Former head of FBI Ted Gunderson exposes a pedphile network run by the CIA for satanic purposes. watch online: http://tinyurl.com/ujghu **************** "The Ted Gunderson Files" http://educate-yourself.org/tg/ Haven't had time to go through all of them, but am linking directly to Gunderson's article on the abduction/disappearance of Johnny Gosch: http://educate-yourself.org/tg/goschcradiointerview19aug03.shtml and, still regarding Johnny Gosch with pics of the boys: from http://www.johnnygosch.com/ ********** am placing the Johnny Gosch abduction info here as a theory that relates to the sex industry and organized crime. The recent possibility/belief that journalist Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch, coincides with the suicide(??) of Hunter S. Thompson: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml Gonzo journalist, Hunter Thompson wrote a book called "The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs" which chronicled his living and riding with the HA in California. Paul Banacci (who admits to having originally abducted Johnny Gosch) maintains that Hunter Thompson was the camera man involved in a snuff movie made while Banacci was involved with the pedophile ring that Johnny Gosch was abducted into. am convinced that we have now found generally who is doing the majority of these things. Most of the prostitution surrounds 'procurement' activities. Sometimes it is young guys approached by older guys/richer guys "Get me some drugs. get me some girls."(the younger the pimp, the younger the girls he has access to , so some of the real young guys going missing are probably small time drug pushers and pimps who have done business with the wrong people and need to be shut up. Maybe somewhere along there someone decided that gang 'hits' on people should actually be profitable for the gang. Why just take someone out in a mob hit when that person can actually be sold and then killed.) These rich bastards get more sadistic. They are used to getting what they want, when they want, and doing whatever they lwant to whoever they want to do it to. So when they watch the porn, the VERY hard stuff, they want more, then they want it made to order, then they want the real thing. They ask around . They find a circle of people into it. Girls who will be hurt for money. From there, they find their way into the real monsters, the people who pay big money to kill the girl's babies, drink their blood. Some girls think its a good way to make drug money. Some have pimps or gangs push them into it, further and further and further along. They can get girsl who ran away from home at 13, spent a year in Jamaica, her pimps are moving her around. They go where the money is. If there is a Superbowl or an Olympics or a World Series or a big Stones gig, anything big and decadent that attracts money, they want to be there with the young young young girls. Thes eguys get connected. They collect girls like ranchers collect horses, keep small groups of fed and groomed women addicted to drugs working for them. The money in this is huge. These girls fry their brains on drugs, forget who they are, where they are, even which city or country they are in. They appear in porn flicks. They get tied and whipped, locked in boxes, hung from ropes . Then they go back to the hotel room.Then one night they get taken to someone who takes it all the way , and they get tortured to death or burned alive. And their owner gets a great big cash deposit into a new account that someone gave them a password for the previous week. $200,000. Welcome to the world of the ultra rich, the CIA , secret service, high society adventure boys. They believe in living life as though it is one big movie set. Someone real high up has a lot of power. Their group is expanding , they manipulate things to make sure their choice for mayor or police chief gets in, and competitors get destroyed. The money flows. The bottom line is , this stuff is the the ultimate luxury. It takes money. Rich criminals. Rich period, are into this. This is the anything goes world of the ultra rich, the Bushes, theCIA adv Then these groups get addicted to it. they grow. They need more girls. Rich gays and pedophiles get into it. More and more people start disappearing. Young men, children.The Hells angels are all ex- CIA drug addicts and sadists who have lost it . The rich have private security, private investigators, many of them ex police officers,ex marines, ex CIA or CSIS or MI6 agents. They build up little private armies of these people, and these people have friends. Soldiers, bikers, dealers, pimps, mob contacts. They help out. They have contacts in the govt.,police dept., coroner's office. Investigations are shut down, people reassigned, people have little 'accidents', people 'commit suicide' at surprising times. The police start to give up. The killings become more frequent, and the cults less selective about their victims. Less careful, less demanding. So then just about anyone will do as a victim, anyone who won't go missed , whose disappearance won't be notable, who will not be protected, and who is considered generally useless. You want to find your killers, follow the money. Most of this is about drugs and occult and pimping and total depravity. Well, basically we have it all figured out now. I think we now know what is generally happening to the majority of these missing people. They 'disappear ' for a few days, then their bodies are found. The people taking them often work for various CIA operations, CIA-connected biker gangs and organized crime networks. Listen to this excellent internet radio show the Alex Jones show: (you have to realize that what he is saying is true. Most will not believe it because it is so incredible, but once you start checking it all out, everything, absolutley EVERYTHING, he is saying on his daily radio show is true. He has grown so popular that this show is broadcast on over 100 public AM and FM radio stations across the United States.) click here to listen: http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls Here is one more of Alex Jones videos: Order of Death http://tinyurl.com/hy7t9 *********** Check out this information on the cult killings in Burgundy, France (a medievil village full of ancient castles, including some owned the Rothschild family) This case began with the 1991 discovery of imprisoned and tortured slaves, led to the discovery of several buried bodies, and involved emerging evidence of a network that had killed possibly hundreds of people. It also featured a massive coverup, a deluge of destroyed evidence, compromised judges, an investigator murdered. Sound familiar?) http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/auxerre/index.html Joanna On the morning of May 17, 1990, Patrice Bardot, an unemployed dustman, traveled from his home in the French village of Monteau to the nearby Yonne River for a day of fishing. Not long after he arrived he noticed something floating in the water. Initially, he believed it was a bobbing barrel, but as he drew nearer he was shocked to realize it was a nude human body. Bardot immediately flagged down a woman jogging on a nearby path and alerted her of the gruesome find. The jogger then ran toward a caf?, where the police were called. The authorities soon arrived and conducted what would later be considered a terribly bungled investigation. The police cornered off a small section of land close to where the body was found and began searching for clues. However, investigators ignored a large portion of the surrounding area, most of which had been trampled by police, emergency personnel, onlookers and vehicles. According to an Expatica.com article by Graham Tearse, the secured area was "released to the public just several hours later" and the following day it was further trampled by children on a field trip. Had there been any evidence, it was likely lost from the contamination of the crime scene. The body was withdrawn from the river and taken to a nearby hospital for identification and autopsy. The woman was identified as 20-year-old Joanna Parrish, who was from Gloucestershire, England. Joanna was enrolled in a modern languages work/study program at Leeds University and took a position as an assistant English teacher at a secondary school in the nearby town of Auxerre. She was working on a bachelor's degree in modern languages at Leeds University. At the time of her death she was only one week away from completing her posting. An autopsy revealed that Joanna had been drugged, tied up, raped, beaten and strangled before being dumped into the river. It was suspected that her body had been in the water only several hours prior to it being found. Even though the body was discarded in broad daylight, police were unable to find any witnesses. They believed that whoever murdered Joanna was probably familiar with the area and could have even resided in the immediate vicinity. Yet, police were unable to produce any suspects. According to Tearse, Joanna had a friend named Janet visiting from Canada around the time of her death. Janet claimed that Joanna placed an advertisement in a local newspaper offering English lessons. She planned to use the money to fund a holiday trip with her fianc?e. Investigators learned that a local man responded to Joanna's ad by phone and was interested in hiring her to teach his teenage son. They made arrangements to meet at 7 p.m. on May 16 at the town's square in Auxerre. Tearse suggested that on that day, Janet joined Joanna on her trip into town and they walked around for a while before they separated at about 6:30 pm. Joanna went to meet the man at the town square. It was the last time Janet ever saw her again. Tearse said that Joanna never told Janet the name of the man she was planning to meet. Several weeks after her body was discovered, Joanna was buried in Gloucestershire. Her parents, Roger and Pauline, went to Auxerre and hired a lawyer to assist them in their gaining access to information concerning the case from the magistrate and the police detectives. They wanted to closely follow the investigation, hoping that it would eventually lead to the apprehension of their daughter's murderer. Their expectations were quickly shattered when they realized how inadequately the case was being handled. At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that high-level officials were trying to cover-up the fact that Burgundy had an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was something that could not be hidden for long. Negligence The investigation into Joanna's death was bungled from the beginning. The crime scene was turned into a forensic disaster. Moreover, much of the information gathered during the investigation was kept from Joanna's family, who desperately tried to learn what advances were being made in the case. Tearse suggested that during a British inquest into Joanna's murder, critical evidence was discovered that was ignored or overlooked by French coroners. He claimed that a second autopsy, conducted by the British, revealed several bite marks on Joanna's body. From a forensic standpoint, bite marks are vital clues that can reveal information about the killer because teeth, bite and jaw formations are individually unique and can be easily matched. The revelation shocked Joanna's parents who couldn't comprehend how something so obvious and important could have gone unnoticed. During the autopsy, medical examiners were able to obtain sperm samples. It took two years for the samples to be analyzed, but the results led to a genetic print. The DNA evidence was one of the biggest clues in the investigation and Roger and Pauline hoped that it would lead investigators to the killer. However, they were not so fortunate. Tearse said, "investigators refused to call for voluntary DNA tests of the local male population and continued to refuse to make a media appeal for witnesses." It was another blow to the investigation and a major disappointment for Roger and Pauline. Frustrated at the incompetence of police, Joanna's family decided to take measures into their own hands. They family offered a reward for information into Joanna's death and handed out leaflets in and around Auxerre and Mon?teau. They even appealed to the British government for assistance. Even though they were unsuccessful in getting help from the British government they did manage to get some interesting responses to their leaflets. Several people called offering some information directly concerning Joanna's death. Roger and Pauline eagerly presented the new leads to the French authorities. However, for some unknown reason the investigators failed to pursue the tips. Isabelle Laville, victim Isabelle Laville, victim The family members of other murdered victims in Burgundy responded to the leaflets. Roger and Pauline learned that three other young women, Isabelle Laville, 17, Danielle Bernard, 39, Sylvie Baton, 24, were murdered near or in Auxerre between 1987 and 1990. Their families were angered because they also felt as if the investigators were mishandling the cases of their deceased loved ones. Eventually, Roger and Pauline discovered that there were approximately 13 more unsolved murders and disappearances of women in the Auxerre area over the last 30 years. Interestingly, investigators working on Joanna's case never told them about the spate of murders, two of which occurred within months of their daughter's death. Roger and Pauline tried to obtain Joanna's case files so they could bring in outside help to assist in the investigation. However, investigators continued to deny them access to the documents. Even though it seemed as if they were battling a lost cause, they refused to give up in their search for evidence. Among the 17 girls missing or found murdered were seven pupils from the Medical-Educational Institute, a special needs school for handicapped young women in Auxerre. The girls, 16 to 22 years old, were accounted for in December 2000, when a former bus driver of the school made a startling confession. Emile Louis, 68, admitted to police that he had sex with the seven pupils and then murdered them sometime between 1977 and 1979. When the girls first began to disappear, the police interviewed Louis because he was known to have a history of sex offenses. However, they did not pursue him for long and eventually he was disregarded as a potential suspect. Eventually, the cases were dropped and the girls were listed as runaways. Emile Louis, mugshot Emile Louis, mugshot Louis continued to drive female pupils to and from school. It is also believed that he continued to rape and kill them indiscriminately. He would not be looked at as a suspect for almost another two decades. Hugh Schofield's article Mystery of France's Missing Girls suggested that there were similarities between many of the cases. He quoted Corinne Herrmann, a French lawyer and author of the book The Disappeared of the Yonne, stating that the girls were either mentally handicapped, "or like Joanna far from home." Moreover, according to Stuart Jeffries 2000 article for The Observer, witnesses were able to place Louis near the spots where many of the victims were last seen. Scene where bodies found Scene where bodies found Louis was caught almost two decades later when his daughter found items in his house belonging to several of the victims. During his confession, Louis told authorities that he buried the girls near the Yonne River. Only the skeletal remains of two girls were ever recovered. Not long after his admission of guilt, Louis changed his story. He claimed that he was pressured into giving false testimony and that he actually didn't commit the murders. In a January 2002 article in The Guardian by Jon Henley, Louis insisted that "the girls were routinely abused and finally abducted and killed by a nebulous ring of men 'of some standing, locally and in the region." Not surprisingly, Louis' story was met with skepticism by local investigators. Louis could not be charged with the murders anyway because under French law it was considered unlawful to convict anyone of a murder 10 years after a crime was committed. According to Jeffries, Louis was instead "convicted for kidnapping, for which there is no statue of limitations." The authorities believed Louis could have been involved in some of the other murder cases, yet there was not enough evidence to convict him. One thing was for certain: Louis could not have been directly responsible for Joanna's death. At the time of her murder, he was serving a prison sentence for sexually assaulting a minor. Nevertheless, Schofield suggested that a private investigation conducted for 13 years by French police agent Christian Jambert, 56, "clearly established that Louis was linked to all the women." It was believed that he was affiliated with a sex ring operation that prostituted, abused and even murdered many girls in the region, possibly including Joanna. Christian Jambert, victim Christian Jambert, victim Initially the authorities ignored Jambert's theories, but an incident in 1984 led them to reconsider the idea that there was indeed a sex ring in the area. That January, a 19-year-old girl was found wandering the streets of Auxerre in a confused state. When the police picked her up and questioned her she claimed that she was held captive in the basement of a nearby house, where she was sexually abused and tortured. The girl's testimony led the police to the home of Claude and Monique Dunand, known friends of Emile Louis. Stuart said that when they searched the house, they found another girl in the cellar, "naked and suspended from a ladder by her wrists." He further claimed that for approximately 15 years, local handicapped girls were lured to the house, locked up, fed dog food and repeatedly raped and tortured by invited guests. However, there was no indication that any of the girls were murdered. Claude Dunand was eventually convicted of kidnapping and given a life sentence in 1991. His wife Monique received two years for accessory to the crimes. According to Andrew Alderson and Kim Willsher's article 'I Want Justice for Joanna,' Yonne crime reporter Ludovic Berger stated, "Claude Dunand has always said that politicians, industrialists and magistrates were involved but he has refused to name them." The article further suggested that a list of at least 50 clients "rumored to include several French 'notables' who paid to torture and abuse" captive girls was discovered by police and handed over to the Auxerre Courthouse. However, the list mysteriously disappeared from a courtroom and has never been found. It was not the only document that went missing. In fact, there were more than 100 murder and missing person case files from between 1958 and 1982 that vanished from the courthouse. Moreover, the court ledger documenting the investigations also vanished. It became increasingly clear that someone was either trying to cover up the crimes or the Auxerre Courthouse had a serious management problem. Christian Jambert was almost certain he knew who was behind Burgundy's rash of murders and missing person cases, and he was convinced that Louis was one of the primary culprits. However, he also believed that Louis was only one of many involved in the crimes. Jambert kept meticulous notes and diaries concerning the cases, along with the evidence he collected over the years. In 1997, he made preparations to present his findings during a new inquiry. Yet, he never got the chance to reveal what he worked so hard to acquire. In August of that year, just several days before the inquiries were scheduled to begin, Jambert was found dead in the basement of his Auxerre home. An autopsy revealed that he died from a single gunshot wound to the head. Medical investigators claimed that Jambert had a history of depression. It was believed that his poor mental state prompted him to end his life. His death was listed as a suicide. By the late 1990s, the mounting scandal in Auxerre gained international attention. People were shocked by the negligence exhibited in the investigations and the fact that more than 100 files, mostly of missing women, had gone missing from Auxerre's Courthouse. According to Harry de Quetteville's January 2002 article in The Telegraph, the scandal was "taken so seriously in Paris that Marylise Lebranchu, the French justice minister, ordered a series of internal investigations." Joanna's murder case was one of those selected for re-examination and it was further linked with the inquiry into the seven girls Louis once claimed to have murdered. Not surprisingly, Joanna's parents welcomed the decision of a new inquiry. They waited more than a decade for her investigation to be reopened. BBC News Online stated that Roger, "was hopeful there would be progress in the investigation and the potential capture of the killer." Investigators working on the case quickly realized that there was a possibility someone tampered with Joanna's murder file. Witness statements, which were obtained at the time of her murder, were missing from her dossier. Moreover, important DNA evidence taken during the autopsy also disappeared from the file for more than a decade before it was found again. During the investigation, it was suggested that Joanne and many of the other girls that were murdered or missing were likely the victims of an organized sex gang operating around Auxerre. Yet, because so many of the facts were missing, there was not enough evidence available to convict anyone. The only exception was the case of the seven missing girls Louis initially claimed to have murdered before retracting his confession. Investigators continued to believe he was involved in their disappearances and murders. A re-examination of his case was ordered, with the hope of uncovering more evidence linking Louis or anyone else to the girls. Seven missing girls, victims Many in the community believed that the murder cases were deliberately ignored and the files stolen or destroyed because they implicated high-level officials. Investigators re-examining the cases determined that it was more likely that gross negligence on behalf of local magistrates was to blame for the mishandling of the cases. In all likelihood, it was probably a combination of both theories that prevented anyone from being apprehended for the crimes. In March 2002, four magistrates from Burgundy faced accusations of gross negligence in the cases of missing and murdered women in their region. The judges included former chief prosecutors Rene Meyer and Jacques Cazals and former deputy prosecutors Daniel Stilinovic and Bertrand Daillie. The men were ordered to appear before a panel of six senior judges, who would review the cases over a three-day period. According to a 2002 article by Susan Bell in The Scotsman, accused magistrate Stilinovic admitted that "there were people who allowed information to be stifled." He was further quoted saying "magistrates tampered with procedures on behalf of people they wanted to protect. It is a conspiracy at the very top." However, he maintained his innocence, suggesting that he did not stifle any of the investigations. His peers thought otherwise. The panel returned a verdict in late March and found Stilinovic guilty of negligence. He received the severest penalty and was dismissed from his position. Cazals was also found guilty and transferred from his prestigious post in Paris. Meyer, who was retired at the time of the inquiry, was stripped of his honorary title after he too was found guilty. Daillie received no punishment. New Evidence In August 2002, investigators found new clues during their inquiry into Joanna's murder. They revealed that recently recovered DNA evidence pointed to two men being involved in the rape and murder of Joanna. The BBC News further stated in their article "Fresh Clues in Joanna Murder Hunt" that new documents were found which indicated that police arrested a suspect in connection with Joanna's murder early in the investigation. Yet, he was released because of lack of evidence. Investigators are continuing to follow up on the new leads, hoping that it might result in the arrest of her killers. However, a great deal of time has passed since her death and the chances of solving the crime have significantly decreased over the years. Regardless, Joanna's family and law enforcement officials re-examining the case have not given up hope. In April 2004, more new evidence arose concerning the suicide of Jambert. According to Alderson and Willsher's article, Corinne Herrmann received access to Jambert's files while she was conducting research into the case of the Burgundy's missing and murdered girls. She became suspicious of his death and believed he might have been murdered. She just had to prove her theory. Herrmann, author of Les Disparues D'Auxerre, convinced Jambert's children to exhume their father's body so that another autopsy could be conducted. After several days of examining the remains, the medical investigators made a startling discovery. Alderson and Willsher claimed that Jambert had been shot not once, but twice in the head making it almost impossible for him to have committed suicide. Herrmann's suspicions were proven correct and she persuaded area magistrates to begin a murder inquiry. It was believed that his murder was directly linked with the investigation on which he was working. Even though investigators interviewed several possible suspects, no one has yet been convicted for the crime. Jambert's case, like Joanna's, is being pursued with more vigor than ever before. Moreover, investigators continue to review the Louis case. They are hoping to put an end to the disappearances and murders that have plagued Burgundy for so many years. Moreover, they hope to restore the reputation of the beautiful, medieval town that has attracted visitors from around the world for centuries. Emile Louis Trial On November 2, 2004, Emile Louis' murder trial finally began in Auxerre, France despite repeated attempts to throw out the case. According to a November 3, 2004 AP Worldstream article, Louis' lawyers requested that the case be delayed until after the European Court of Human Rights ruled "on their bid to dismiss the case" because they believed "the crimes took place too long ago for the case to be legally valid." However, the court rejected the defense request and ordered the resumption of Louis' trial. The 70-year-old retired bus driver, convicted of the murders of seven mentally handicapped women, continued to deny he was responsible for the murders even though he confessed to them years earlier. It is hoped that the trial will finally reveal the truth as to how the girls died. The trial is expected to last four weeks. If convicted, Louis could face life imprisonment. The case is considered one of France's most controversial scandals because the investigation was bungled and many of the case files dealing with the girls' disappearances, as well as other cases of murdered and missing women went missing from the Auxerre Courthouse. It is believed that the files were destroyed in order to cover up a high-level sex ring, which allegedly involved some prominent French officials. Auxerre Courthouse AP Worldstream reported that, "more than 90 witnesses including magistrates, social workers, police officers and family members of the victims are to testify at the trial." Many other family members of the victims are expected to fill the courthouse, in the hopes of seeing Louis brought to justice after escaping prosecution for the murders for approximately twenty-five years. The father of British student Joanna Parrish, who was murdered in Auxerre in 1990, is also expected to be in attendance. Since the onset of the trial there has been an upsurge of media and public interest, which has led to security concerns. Moreover, there is concern for Louis' personal safety and the authorities want to prevent the possibility of someone taking justice into their own hands. In response, safety measures were taken to secure the perimeter around the courthouse, Mie Kohiyama reported for Agence France-Presse. There is no doubt that Louis is considered by many to be one of France's most reviled citizens. Rachael Bell Rachael Bell has completed master's degrees in clinical and health psychology and is currently working on her PhD in the field of psychology. On a part-time basis, she instructs bachelor and master's level courses in psychology. She lives in Europe with her husband and two children.
Cannibal Hells Angels cult?
Author: gornk
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:29
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People keep changing the subject from the original topic to
a discussion on something completely different, usually childish
name-calling.
They do not want the TOPIC discussed.
The information has to keep flowing , so read on:
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'I have been reading along, watching the videos, and it is very
interesting, especially, about informants being used, while they are on
a killing spree.There are indeed some nasty things being done in high
places.
I am uncertain, maybe because I grew up in Montreal, Angel Territory. I
know the gangs have had rival fights, etc, over turf, drugs.
It bothers me also, pedophiles, and the HA, getting along. So many are
married with kids, or have sisters, etc..
A lot is spoken of happenings in the USA, I wonder if you have any info
on the hub, or triangle, in the Province of BC,as this lady wrote, that
she worked with victims from there. Also, have you heard of the Process
Church cult? . I do believe in cults, and I fear this is widespread,
and may end up reaching into the states.
PS: Say there has been a long time cult going on, then they would
probably take something from the victim, to the people they obey., to
show it was done. It is very confusing to say the least
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'I have not had time to visit all these links and watch all the videos,
but I was googling cult activity and Satanism in BC. Came up with an
article about a 30+ year member of the VPD who used to investigate
child abuse cases ... Detective Constable Charles Ennis, aka Kerr
Cuhulain who is also head honcho of an organization called Officers of
Avalon (policeman, firefighters, EMTs, etc. of Wicca and the Pagan
religion). He notes that Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist who worked
out of Chilliwack General Hospital, had some patients who committed
suicide, and the article indicates that it was possibly related to
Gutowski's treatment received while undergoing therapy due to Satanic
cult involvement. I can't help but wonder if the suicides might just be
more related to the cult activity/involvement rather than Dr.
Gutowski's treatment??
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:1kctPz0ktxEJ:www.witchvox.com/va/...
I have read a couple of the Ennis/Cuhulain articles and note that he
appears as bigoted towards Christians as he claims Christians are
towards Wicca. He has authored The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca,
Wiccan Warrior and Full Contact Magick: A Book of Shadows for the
Wiccan Warrior, and Witch Hunts: Out of the Broom Closet (Spiral
Publishing).
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Fantastic Quigley. This is nearly THE most important find so far.
Kerr Cuhulain is based in Surrey, B.C. He has started an occult police
officers association called Officers of Avalon.
Piggy Palace (and Robert Pictons farm) is very near Surrey, B.C. , just
N.E.
of Surrey in Port Coquitlam. Ironically, Cuhulain was a child abuse
investigator
for the Vancouver Police Dept.
This also fits the pattern of the cult putting their own people in key
positions of authority re: police, child abuse, missing persons.
(remember disgraced teen fondler, Congressman Mark Foley was chairman
of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
Some info on the Picton pig farm cult:
Quote:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/robert_pickton/6...
Late in 1998, task force detectives got their best lead yet from
37-year-old Bill Hiscox. Widowed two years earlier, Hiscox had turned
to drugs and alcohol after his wife died, rescued from the downhill
slide when his foster sister found him a job at P&B Salvage in Surrey,
southeast of Vancouver. The proprietors were Robert William "Willie"
Pickton and his brother David, of Port Coquitlam. Hiscox's helpful
relative was Robert Pickton's "off-and-on" girlfriend in 1997, and
Hiscox picked up his paychecks at the brothers' Port Coquitlam pig
farm, described by Hiscox as "a creepy-looking place" patrolled by a
vicious 600-pound boar. "I never saw a pig like that, who would chase
you and bite at you," he told police. "It was running out with the dogs
around the property."
Robert William (Willie) Pickton
Hiscox had grown concerned about the Picktons after reading newspaper
reports on Vancouver's missing women. Robert Pickton was "a pretty
quiet guy, hard to strike up a conversation with, but I don't think he
had much use for men." Pickton drove a converted bus with deeply tinted
windows, Hiscox told authorities. "It was Willie's pride and joy," he
said, "and he wouldn't part with it for anything. Willie used it a
lot." The brothers also ran a supposed charity, the Piggy Palace Good
Times Society, registered with the Canadian government in 1996 as a
non-profit society intended to "organize, co-ordinate, manage and
operate special events, functions, dances, shows and exhibitions on
behalf of service organizations, sports organizations and other worthy
groups." According to Hiscox, the "special events" convened at Piggy
Palace--a converted building at the hog farm--were drunken raves that
featured "entertainment" by an ever-changing cast of Downtown Eastside
prostitutes.
David Francis Pickton
Police were already familiar with the Pickton brothers. David Francis
Pickton had been convicted of sexual assault in 1992, fined $1,000 and
given 30 days' probation. His victim in that case told police Pickton
had attacker her in his trailer, at the pig farm, but she managed to
escape when a third party came in and distracted him. Port Coquitlam
authorities sought an order to destroy one of David's dogs in April
1998, under the Livestock Protection Act, but the proceedings were
later dismissed without explanation. Pickton had also been sued three
times for damages, resulting from traffic accidents in 1988 and 1991,
settling all three claims out of court.
Soon after Piggy Palace opened, the Pickton brothers and their sister,
Linda Louise Wright, found themselves in court again, sued by Port
Coquitlam officials for allegedly violating city zoning ordinances.
According to the complaint, their property was zoned for agricultural
use, but they had "altered a large farm building on the land for the
purpose of holding dances, concerts and other recreations" that
sometimes drew as many as 1,800 persons. Following a New Year's Eve
party on December 31, 1998, the Picktons were slapped with an
injunction banning future parties, the court order noting that police
were henceforth "authorized to arrest and remove any person" attending
public events at the farm. The "society" finally lost its nonprofit
status in January 2000, for failure to provide mandatory financial
statements.
Other charges filed against Robert Pickton were more serious. In March
1997 he was charged with the attempted murder of a drug-addicted
prostitute, Wendy Lynn Eistetter, whom he stabbed several times in a
wild melee at the pig farm. Eistetter told police that Pickton
handcuffed and attacked her on March 23, but that she escaped after
disarming him and stabbing him with his own knife. A motorist found
Eistetter beside the highway at 1:45 a.m. and took her to the nearest
emergency room, while Pickton sought treatment for a single stab wound
at Eagle Ridge Hospital. He was released on $2,000 bond, but the charge
was later dismissed without explanation in January 1998.
The stabbing had crystallized Bill Hiscox's suspicion about Robert
Pickton, whom he called "quite a strange character." Aside from the
assault, Hiscox told police, there were "all the girls that are going
missing, and all the purses and Ids that are out there in his trailer
and stuff." Pickton, Hiscox told detectives, "frequents the downtown
area all the time, for girls."
Police recorded Hiscox's statement and a detective accompanied him to
the pig farm, afterward vowing "to push the higher-ups, all the way to
the top, to investigate." Subsequent press reports indicate that the
farm was searched three times, apparently without result. The brothers
would remain on file, "persons of interest" to the inquiry, but no
surveillance would be mounted on the farm.
Back in Vancouver, meanwhile, the list of missing women grew longer,
with no end in sight.
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I checked Google Maps for an aerial view of the general area where
Piggy Palace and the Picton pig farm is located:
It is in Port Coquitlam, which is just NorthEast of Surrey, B.C. where
our Officers of Avalon cult friends are headquartered.
Notice the big nearby rail yard. Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
inland river /rail port, from what I can tell the biggest such port in
the Vancouver area.
This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
disappearing onto ships.
If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
that might be useful.
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Check this out: the Hells Angels entire Vancouver chapter is also
located
in Port Coquitlam. So we have Officers of Avalon (police), the Pickton
pig cult,
and the Hells Angels all headquartered in the same area immediatelly
surrounding
this massive rail port:
http://tinyurl.com/srtaa
Quote:
Neal Hall, VANCOUVER SUN
Published: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
A high-profile member of the Vancouver Hells Angels says people have
been rude to him and he has experienced "fear and loathing" from the
public at supermarkets, restaurants and other places after an Ontario
court ruling last year that found the Hells Angels is a criminal
organization, a Vancouver judge was told Monday.
In an affidavit filed in B.C. Supreme Court, Rickey Ciarniello, 61, the
president of the Vancouver chapter, who has been a member of the Hells
Angels since 1983, says he has always proudly worn his Hells Angels
insignia, known as colours, but since the Ontario ruling he has
experienced "harassment, stigma and ostracism that membership would now
seem to entail."
He was wearing a black jacket in court Monday that said in small
letters on the front: Vancouver Hells Angels.
His affidavit, obtained by The Vancouver Sun, claims he is a
law-abiding Hells Angels member who is "not responsible for the
criminal acts that have, at times, been committed by some of its
members."
His affidavit recalled that after the Ontario ruling, Ciarniello went
to a restaurant called Joey Tomatoes wearing his colours and overheard
a couple asking to be moved because they didn't want to sit next to a
criminal.
"Following that I was quite uncomfortable and decided to leave the
restaurant," said the affidavit.
"I have noticed a marked difference in the way that people respond to
me when I am wearing my colours," Ciarniello said in his affidavit.
"The mood has gone from friendly and casual curiosity to fear, loathing
and avoidance such that I am now made to feel uncomfortable wearing the
HAMC [Hells Angels Motorcycle Club] insignia."
Since the Ontario judgment, his affidavit says, staff members at the
local Safeway near his PORT COQUITLAM home -- where he has purchased
groceries for 20 years -- are not as friendly as they used to be, and
he's received similar treatment at a Shell gas station.
His affidavit also states that John Bryce, president of the East End
chapter of the Hells Angels, was refused as a customer of the Bank of
Nova Scotia, after two decades of business with it, after the Ontario
ruling.
And Ciarniello says while he regularly spoke to the media on behalf of
the Hells Angels in B.C. and nationally, he has generally refrained
from speaking out to the same extent after the ruling because he is
concerned that "I may be charged with participating in the activities
of a criminal organization...."
He said the effect of the Ontario ruling "is to declare me a member of
a criminal organization notwithstanding that I have never engaged in
the promotion of criminal conduct."
His affidavit was filed as part of his constitutional challenge of all
the sections of the Criminal Code making it illegal to participate,
direct or instruct people for the benefit of a criminal organization.
He claims the Ontario Superior Court ruling in the case known as
Lindsay and Bonner has caused a stigma to belonging to the Hells Angels
in B.C., which infringes his section seven rights of life, liberty and
security of person.
n...@png.canwest.com
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http://www.thenownews.com/issues05/112105/news/112105nn2.html
Quote:
Hells Angels members get four years
By Jennifer Saltman - Staff Reporter
Two senior members of the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels - which
is based in Coquitlam - were each sentenced in B.C. Supreme Court
Monday to four years in jail for drug trafficking.
Surrey resident Norman Edward Krogstad, 58, who police say is the
president of the Vancouver chapter, and 55-year-old Langley resident
Cedric Baxter Smith, a senior member of the chapter, had pleaded guilty
earlier to 11 counts of cocaine trafficking.
The two were sentenced by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm for
their role in trafficking almost 10 kilograms of cocaine bought by a
former biker who was working as an undercover police agent.
Smith was also fined $100,000 for his role in the trafficking
operation, during which the police agent bought nine kilograms and 24
ounces of cocaine between June 2003 and September 2004.
When police raided Smith's home, they seized $73,000 in cash - and Dohm
ordered Smith to pay $27,500 on top of that to satisfy payment of the
fine.
Krogstad and Smith were among 10 men arrested on the Lower Mainland and
in Prince George in January after a 20-month-long joint police
investigation.
The investigation resulted in firearm and drug-trafficking charges
against six members and associates of the Prince George Renegades
motorcycle club and four members and associates of the Hells Angels'
Vancouver chapter.
Undercover police officers bought large quantities of drugs, stolen
property and illegal guns were purchased from various members of
Vancouver- and Prince George-based Hells Angels, and their associates.
In Vancouver and Prince George, investigators seized more than
$100,000, 25 pounds of marijuana, 14 kilograms of cocaine and
restricted and prohibited weapons.
The Angels' COQUITLAM clubhouse was not searched during the operation.
The Vancouver chapter has approximately 16 members
.
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From:
Quote:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=16079
"A special team investigating the cases," reported the New York Times
on Saturday, November 23, 2002, "arrived and found body parts in a
freezer, as well as purses and other personal effects later linked to
the missing.... Not one body has been found intact, and a wood chipper
and Mr. Pickton's pigs are believed to have devoured much of the
evidence."
The Scene of the Crimes
"There are no whole bodies at the pig farm," says Elaine Allan, a
former coordinator for a DES drop-in center for sex workers. While
employed there in the late '90s, she worked with almost 20 of the women
who are believed to have been murdered by Robert Pickton, dismembered,
and fed to his pigs. In her late 30s with medium-length hair, an
intelligent air, and attentive eyes, Allan's voice expresses an almost
aching sensitivity for the victims.
"I can't tell you exactly what they have found on the farm because of
the ban on that information. You know about the ban?" I say that I do,
but the local papers have reported about the feet, teeth, and bones.
Everyone knows about the body parts, the pigs, the wood chipper, the
freezers. Indeed, the animal rights organization PETA had planned to
place a large ad in the Province describing the murders in horrifying
detail. ("They were drugged and dragged across the room," the PETA ad
began. "Their struggles and cries went unanswered.... [b]They were
slaughtered and their heads were sawed off.... Their body parts were
refrigerated.... And their bones discarded. [/b]It's Still Going On.
Please remember that this scenario is a reality for more than 640
million sensitive individuals who lose their lives every year in this
country for nothing more than the taste of their 'meat.'")
What detail could Allan possibly tell me that wasn't already known? Was
there more than dismembered women in the meat freezer, in the teeth of
the wood chipper, or the guts of the pigs? Were there worse details,
more horrifying details?
"Yes," she says. "It's worse than you can imagine."
Now for the truly sickening part, if this were not bad enough
I followed the street address provided in the above news article, the
street address for the pig farm: 953 Dominion Avenue (Dominion
Triangle)
on Google Maps, and I found that the swatch of farmland actually
borders the massive rail yard and inland sea port. The above article
also mentions that women from Seattle started disappearing at the same
time, and my guess is that this is not the only other city involved.
Now it starts to get truly strange:
I did a Google on the most famous Hells Angel in history
Sonny Barger
During the course of my search I came upon a biker-connected band
known as Spiralarms.
The bass player for Spiralarms, known as 'Spiralbass' (has a Myspace
page)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&frie...
and on his page I found this:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/MANTIS11/enemy/gutsyjm3io9.gif
(edited by Hazel, sorry TD just too graphic for me, and if too graphic
for me I am sure its too graphic for others. However, I left the link
intact, if anyone wants to see this image, cut and paste away. Thanx)
I got curious about this guy , and found that he is from Benicia,
California.
I did a Google Earth on Benicia, California.
Benicia is literally just across the river from Mount Diablo, on the
north side , and not far geographically from Bohemian Grove (approx. 70
miles SE). It is another port city, this time for Concord Naval Weapons
Base.
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove_maps.h...
Now back to our friend Kerr Kuhulain (detective constable Charles
Ennis):
Kuhulain and his books are prominent on this site:
http://spiralpublishinginc.com/osCommerce/
this is Kuhulain's publisher : Spiral Publishing.
Spiral Arms
Spiral Publishing
The goddess depicted above is Kali
>From http://tinyurl.com/yxjms2
"Cannibalism (more precisely, anthropophagy) is an age-old tradition
that, judging by a constant stream of flabbergasted news reports, is
far from extinct. Much-debated indications exist that our Neanderthal,
Proto-Neolithic, and Neolithic (Stone Age) predecessors were cannibals.
Similarly contested claims were made with regards to the 12th century
advanced Anasazi culture in the southwestern United States and the
Minoans in Crete (today's Greece)."
The Britannica Encyclopedia (2005 edition) recounts how the "Binderwurs
of central India ate their sick and aged in the belief that the act was
pleasing to their goddess, Kali." Cannibalism may also have been common
among followers of the Shaktism cults in India.
Now , are not many of the ships into Port Coquitlam from India?
Is Kerr Kuhulain himself not from India? Remember, if you look at
the Pickton farm on google earth, it right beside both an asian
shipping port and a massive rail yard . This is a colossal scale rail
yard. This is valuable land, and lots of it.
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http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/10/27/66369.html
Indian cannibal sect eats human corpses, believing it give them
supernatural powers
Quote:
16:42 2005-10-27
A new Indian documentary seeks to shed light on a secretive sect of
Hindu ascetics who allegedly eat human corpses, believing it will make
them ageless and give them supernatural powers.
The 10-minute movie "Feeding on the Dead" delves into the little-known
world of the 1,000-year-old Aghori sect, whose sadhus, or holy men,
purportedly pull bodies from Hinduism's holy river, the Ganges, in
northern India.
The sect has been written about, but rarely filmed performing its
rituals. Cannibalism is illegal in India.
Director Sandeep Singh, who shut down his transport business to pursue
film-making, said it took him more than three months to gain an Aghori
sadhu's trust and persuade him to be filmed while performing a
cannibalistic ritual.
"When we first met the sadhu, he said: 'Rubbish, we don't do this,"'
Singh told The Associated Press in an interview. "It took months before
he admitted to the rituals."
There are about 70 Aghori sadhus at a given time, Singh said. They
remain with the sect for 12 years, and can then return to their
families, he said.
Unlike other Hindu holy men, most of whom are vegetarians and
teetotalers, the Aghoris also drink alcohol.
But it is their consumption of human flesh, a practice whose origins
remain a mystery, which has earned them the condemnation of other
Hindus and relegated most of them to living around crematoriums in the
hills around the northern holy city of Varanasi, where the documentary
was made.
While filming, Singh and three cameramen waited with an Aghori holy
man, whose name is not mentioned in the film, for 10 days in June
before the sadhu found a corpse floating in the Ganges.
Hindus generally cremate the dead, but sometimes ceremonially dispose
of bodies in the Ganges.
"The body was decomposed and bluish in color, but the sadhu was not
afraid about falling sick," Singh said. "He sat on the corpse, prayed
to a goddess of crematoriums and offered some flesh to the goddess
before eating it."
Singh said the sadhu ate part of the corpse's elbow, believing the
flesh would stop him from aging and give him special powers, like the
ability to levitate or control the weather.
The filmmaker said he did not see any such powers displayed, and plans
to continue his research into the sect by filming ascetics at various
intervals during their 12 years as Aghoris, reports the AP.
I.L.
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http://tinyurl.com/vvrlq
Quote:
The cruel rites of Kali in no way belong to the past. As the Indian
press currently reports, in recent times more and more incidents of
human sacrifice to the goddess have accumulated, in which it is
primarily children who are offered up. The ancient and universal myth
of the Earth Mother, who consumes her own progeny and fattens herself
with their corpses, who greedily laps up the blood-seed of humans and
animals, who lures life into her abyss and dark hole in order to
destroy it, is actually celebrating a renaissance in contemporary India
(Neumann, 1989, pp. 148-149).
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Quote:
this was an operation on an industrial scale Now I am beginning to
understand why the media ban.
Trevor Greene mentions in his book Bad Date 2001, that there was a
Farmer Willie possibly involved, but rather than concentrating on that
aspect, he followed up a lot, on the fear of a lot of the ladies that
women were being taken aboard ships, used as "entertainment" and dumped
over board.
Until now, I did not realize the property bordered the port.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9024098%255...
Quote:
21mar04
CANADIANS horrified by the discovery of an alleged serial killer in
their midst have been confronted with even worse news -- they may have
eaten animals that ate the victims.
The farmer suspected of killing at least 22 women is feared to have
disposed of their bodies by feeding them to his pigs.
The pigs were then slaughtered on his farm, 30km east of Vancouver, and
the meat given to hundreds of locals.
Police this week confirmed samples of the pig meat probably contained
human DNA, raising the prospect that those living near the farm of
suspected killer Robert William Pickton "ate" his victims.
Pickton, 54, apparently had a habit of slaughtering pigs, wrapping up
the meat and distributing it to associates and friends.
Many of Pickton's victims were prostitutes. The killer regularly gave
pork from his farm to other sex workers.
"Those are my friends that he served up," said one prostitute this week
after learning she may eaten meat contaminated with her friends' DNA.
Families of the missing women expressed shock at the news, with one
telling a Vancouver radio station: "I'm not eating dinner tonight."
Police have asked anyone with frozen pork products from the farm to
turn them into authorities immediately.
Health officials are examining whether human pathogens and diseases
such as hepatitis and HIV could have been transferred through the meat
products.
Police arrested Pickton in February 2002, but only announced this week
they had found human remains and other DNA samples at the farm.
Pickton has been charged with 15 counts of first-degree murder in the
disappearances of women over the past 20 years.
Many of the victims vanished from Vancouver's drug-ridden areas. More
than 60 prostitutes went missing over the past decade and are feared to
have been murdered at the farm.
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So here we have a biker band Spiralarms, and the cover of their
CD contains Kali , the cannibalistic goddess of death, whom is
worshipped in cannibalistic rituals.
The drummer for Spiralarms is from the Mount Diablo/Bohemian Grove area
(where sacrifices are done to Mol-luk , Condor Man, eater of human
flesh) and the drummer also has the cartoon of a human flesh
slaughterhouse on his page.
Then further up the coast in B.C. we have Port Coquitlam, the central
headquarters of the Hells Angels for the entire region, and a gigantic
cannibal restaurant/hall called Piggy Palace, with a slaughterhouse
next to it, situated right next to what could be the most gigantic rail
yard in NA,
and a port servicing ships from Asia.
Finally, we have child-abuse squad occultist Kerr Kuhulain who lives
just SW of Port Coquitlam and publishes occult books
at a publisher by the name of Spiral Press. He has also formed an
occult police organization called The Officers of Avalon.
Now we wonder why the police did nothing for so long?
Quote:
http://www.twpt.com/cuhulain.htm
Kerr Cuhulain A former Air Force officer, Kerr Cuhulain (Vancouver) has
been a police officer for the past twenty years, and a Wiccan for
thirty. He's served on the SWAT team, Gang Crime Unit, and hostage
negotiation team. He travels throughout North America as a popular
speaker at writers' conferences and Pagan festivals, and he has been
the subject of many books, articles, and media interviews. He is the
author of The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca.
"As a child I was a seeker (though, at the time, I couldn't have told
you what I was looking for). I remember leaving libations from my lunch
box for various Greek Gods while I was in elementary school. I found a
book on Wicca in my high school library 31 years ago and realized that
there was a name for what I believed. There was no turning back after
that."
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Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/yg8oov
Vancouver Sun
16 September 1989,
Gutowski, who at that time claimed to have treated five "ritual abuse
survivors in the last four to five years,"(2 is quoted as follows:
"We, as psychiatrists, don't want to believe it at all. But the weight
of evidence about hypnotic regressions convinces us that these things
are actually true. And when you see the reality of the impact it has on
their minds and bodies and emotions, it becomes much more
believable."(29)
"According to Gutowski, at these [occult crime] conferences,
psychiatrists are hearing that survivor's disclosures are pointing to
the fact that prominent people are involved in cult activities.
`They're mayors, lawyers, police, church people- upstanding citizens.
These people are not from Skid Road,' he says."(30)
"Gutowski says evidence gathering is nearly impossible because cults
`go to extreme detail in covering up the remains of people that are
murdered, especially of babies. But I don't think anything is being
done because of the difficulty of getting evidence'".(31)
"Chilliwack's Gutowski estimates that up to half of the one in 3,000
people with multiple personality disorders in Canada have been ritually
abused. The other half have experienced extremely sadistic sexual,
physical, mental, or emotional violence. `The typical memories (of
those who have been ritually abused) are of being tied down,
mutilations in the secrecy of night in graveyards, bushes and forests.
Wounds are inflicted where they're not seen and they are not
deep.'"(32)
"Consistency in the way patients retell the details of their stories
while in trances, as well as cross-patient consistencies in the
recounting of typical cult activities, convinces Gutowski further."(33)
Gutowski's name appears again in the Ottawa Citizen, on March 3, 1990.
Gutowski is quoted as follows:
"Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist at the Chilliwack General Hospital
in British Columbia, has dealt with 20 cult survivors since 1985.
"Drugs are a frequent thing that happens, used to confuse (the victims)
so they don't really remember what's reality. That's a purposeful
technique so (memories of the event are) actually blocked out of the
conscious mind and this is where the development of the multiple
personality starts.
"The cult's activities, he says, 'are so gross, that most people who
aren't familiar with the field would say, 'that's not possible'.
Secrecy is one of their biggest weapons."(34)
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willow wrote:
At second Glance I realize Kerr Cuhulain is an alias as you already
mentioned. All I can tell is he is Canadian, doesn't seem to have an
Indian (as in the continent) name or appearance (to me).
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yes, his real name is Charles Ennis. He is not East-Indian.
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Kim Rossmo was treated completely infairly. Instead of getting a medal
for figuring out the geographic evidence suggesting a serial killer was
to blame for the growing number of missing women in the DTES, he was
let go! After being treated like an outcast for quite some time by his
own department and fellow officers.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2006/06/19/bc_child-porn20060619.html
Quote:
Earlier this year Vancouver police Sgt. John Dragani - who has since
retired - was charged with possession of child pornography after
allegations surfaced in 2005 that he had child porn on his home
computer.
http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/9-year-vetren-of-rcmp-fired...
Quote:
Tristan Johnson, 35, a nine-yearvetren of the force came under
suspiscion due to an annonymous tip he was accessing child porn from
his home computer. In another stunning display of interdepartmental
cooperation the tip was passed on to the Vancouver police (the suspects
jurisdiction, Surrey.) After 4 months of investigation, they determined
there was enough evidence supporting the tip to fire him, they
approached the suspect and let him know, he chose to resign in the face
of dismissal. The matter is before the Crown.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=65c84a7b-1efc-4...
Quote:
2nd ex-cop faces child-porn probe Prosecutors study report from
Vancouver police department on allegations involving nine-year
veteran's home computer
http://www.mindytran.com/rcmp_sanctioned_killers.htm
Quote:
The RCMP have been aiding a known group of killers to avoid justice for
many years in Canada. These killers were all later identified as
protected police informants. The Police have gone to great lengths to
protect their informants from prosecution and aggressively obstruct the
victims families from having any recourse to justice. These "special"
informants are functioning as Police agents, above the law and in
certain cases, virtually licensed to kill!
Little about the laws governing these "untouchables" is known and
little is ever willingly disclosed by the RCMP. In most cases, Canadian
laws will prohibit you from knowing, or the media from publishing, the
identities of police informants . see- justice department quiz
(question #1)
What is known is that the number of these "informants" is constantly
being increased and they are involved in criminal activity, while at
the same time, the RCMP is urging the public to inform them of any
criminal activity.
see- RCMP website- number of informants (final paragraph)
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So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
to take the fall and shut up?
http://www.mindytran.com/canadian_informants.htm
Quote:
Canadian informants
Examples of Canadian informants:
This man confessed to having committed 43 murders in 1986, supposedly
before turning police informant, and assuming a new identity under the
witness protection program.
quote from serial killer index:
hey there! love the sight but have you ever heard of Yves "Apache"
Trudeau? he is a Hells Angel, now under the protection of the Canadian
government due to his turning in his biker cronies. In return for
ratting his buddies out he recieved immunity for some 43 murders he
committed, mostly for revenge and / or money. A pretty prolific killer
I would say
What was Trudeau doing?
see- story
see- short version
full story- the complete story has now been removed from CBC website.
This information is rapidly disappearing from the public domain.
Cory Patterson, another admitted member of these informant/ killers,
claimed that there were others like him. He was never charged, just
relocated. Patterson was found dead after he informed on his police
handlers and disclosed his protected informant status to a journalist.
The CBC fifth Estate investigated and aired the program.
quote-Justice Paul Hermiston couldn't believe what he was hearing.
Never in his career had he heard of such a bizarre case. He was at a
loss to even speculate why the RCMP would hire such a wicked man.
see story
Clifford Robert Olson, Canada's most notorious serial killer, was an
informant and received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the police
following his arrest. He was a suspect when there was only one victim,
was heavily implicated when there were three, but went on to kill
eleven innocent children before the authorities finally decided to stop
his killing spree. Before any of these murders began, Olson was well
known to police as 'Bobo" the prison informant, a brutal serial rapist
of young male inmates.
see- Clifford Olson named as informant.
see- Bobo the prison rapist
Olson had also committed approximately eighty rapes around Vancouver
without ever being apprehended!
quote-This is a fellow that committed approximately eighty rapes in
Greater Vancouver. We know from undercover policewomen who were in his
home when he was identified as a suspect that he actually had a map up
on the wall of his apartment, his flat, and on the map he had marked up
the locations of his attacks.
see pg/4- Kim Rossmo
Quote: Since 1981, questions have been raised about the search for
Canada's first known serial killer. This account shows in meticulous
detail, how the investigation unfolded from the outset. It is possible
that Olson might have been stopped early in his rampage, when two
officers, each working separate cases, identified him as a suspect.
see- Olson's full story
To this day, an ex police member, Kettle is continuing to be vocal
about his attempts to have Olson investigated at the time. The RCMP
blocked all attempts. There never was a court case.
see- The best Olson story
The murder of Leo LaChance disclosed the complicity of the Crown and
the RCMP in a cover-up to benefit this killer, a known RCMP informant.
Information regarding this killer's protected informant status was
prohibited from being made known during the court case and even
withheld from the subsequent inquiry.
see- story
This informant was on the RCMP payroll when he killed two people. He
confessed, yet no charges were ever laid. This story has now been
removed from news site- www.montrealgazettemay17_2002.pdf Contact them
for information as to why this has now been removed from their website.
Danny Kane was involved in many murders and was authorized to receive
two million dollars from the RCMP at the time of his death.
Quote:
Serious questions are being asked as to why the RCMP looked the other
way when they knew that their informant, Danny Kane, was personally
involved in almost a dozen different murders.
see- story
Recently, CTV W5 looked into another suspicious case in Kenora Ontario.
A suspect was arrested and charged with murder. Years later the charge
was stayed when another suspect surfaced. The other suspect, a police
informant, the police investigator, his uncle! The police refuse to
investigate further or to charge the cop.
see- W5 story
This dangerous RCMP agent was permitted to move right in with his next
victim. There were no warnings. It took years of enduring judicial
obstruction for the mother of the murder victim to find out that her
son's killer was an RCMP agent
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Quote:
Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
sea/rail port, from what I can tell the biggest port in the Vancouver
area.
This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
disappearing onto ships.
If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
that might be useful.
The boundaries of the Dominion Av and Burns Rd properties owned by the
Picktons are in fact north of the Lougheed Hwy and the massive rail
connections are to the south, but all in very close proximity to both
the farm and Piggy's Palace. There are certainly no major ports
adjacent to either of the Pickton properties, but it is interesting to
note that the Burns Rd property leads eastward to the Pitt River.
Doesn't take much stretch to visualize smaller logging or fishing
vessels being able to transport things from the Pitt River location
down river to the major ports around Surrey, New West and Richmond.
There is one major port on the Fraser River in Richmond where I was
involved in a private investigation/search (body ultimately recovered
from the Fraser). One of the things we talked about at the time was a
massive "chute" that goes about 100' up in the air and appears to have
something to do with the logging industry (massive wood chipping
operation??). The particular location we were in is called Mitchell
Island. It is a very industrial type area with a lot of transport
trucks, containers, auto parts places, reputed chop-shop locations,
etc. I'm pretty steely, and it was one of the blackest, scariest places
I've ever been with weird people in the shadows, watching what we were
doing and ducking out of sight. Long story ... another time.
Just mainly trying to point out where the water runs from and to in
relation to the Pickton boys.
BTW ... while you are looking at that same area west of the Pitt River
bridge, further west around the corner of Lougheed and Shaughnessy is a
hotel called "The Shaughnessy" (I think) ... I do know that it is
reputed to have heavy HA patronage.
Just to the east of the Pitt River bridge is a hotel that used to be
called "The Wild Duck Inn" and used to be referred to as "The
Gilnetter". Also known for lots of HA attendees.
Thunkerdrone, FWIW ... the Pitt River bridge is the dividing line
between POCO and Haney. There was previous mention of a HA clubhouse
across the road from the Pickton property in POCO. Don't know whether
it ever was determined if it was the Domion Av or Burns Rd property.
There is also a Haney chapter of the HA, so looks like there is a lot
of HA activity in that general area.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:32 am Post subject:
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I can't remember the name of the bike club in Edmonton, it used to be
the Rebels. The fortress was on 83 street and 115 ave if I remember
correctly, and was still there when the other one took over from the
Rebels. It moved after that, 1990's I think. I don't know where they
gather now. Is HA in Edmonton?
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:
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Hi Des, Yes, they're in Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ontario, Quebec, don't know
about Saskatchewan, but if they aren't there then that's probably the
only place they aren't. I am pretty sure they are in the maritime
provinces too.
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Quote:
So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
to take the fall and shut up?
Thunkerdrone you may be interested in this site as well
http://www.injusticebusters.com/06/RCMP2006.shtml
Also check out our Olson thread if you havn't already.
http://www.freeforum101.com/edmontonsk/viewtopic.php?t=981&highlight=...
There's some hair raising stuff here, and yes I think its related to
the death cult stuff you've been edumacating us on with your wonderful
links.
You may be able to help tie some of this together with your POV.
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Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
A few years ago there were definitely "prospecting" clubs (I think aka
"puppet" clubs) for HA in Saskatchewan. They are clubs that go by other
names, but supposedly do the dirty work for the HA.
I read an article on it recently about the heirarchy and the various
affiliations, but can't recall all of it. Will try to find the info
again and post it.
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Posts: 727
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:51 am Post subject:
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Re Vancouver Ports, and a post recently about Stan Hennessy being
linked to the HA:
Quote:
The Vancouver Sun published the picture last week prompting questions
about the link between the union and the Hells Angels - the most talked
about organized crime outfit in B.C. but the one with the least number
of members in jail.
Local 31 in Delta led by Hennessy represents more than 6,000 workers in
B.C. and the Yukon, including about 230 civilian employees of the
Vancouver police, 80 civilian employees of the Abbotsford force, about
350 inside workers at the Greater Vancouver Regional District, and
several hundred truckers who haul containers at the Port of Vancouver.
Vancouver civilian police employees have access to highly sensitive
information, ranging from the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC)
to criminal records. They liaise with Crown attorneys, deal with the
public at front counters, assist victims, and perform secretarial work
in all sections of the department.
Let's not even talk about the Vancouver Port which is internationally
renowned for being a gateway for contraband.
from:
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f4ad0a1...
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adrian
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 675
Location: ALBERTA
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: Thunker:::
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YIKES
It has also taken years and years for the murders here, to be looked
at, and the surrounding areas. BTW Saskatchewan, Alberta, and B.C.
there are a hell of a lot of missing and/or murdered. The task force,
is being quiet, but they have some great profilers, and investigators,
of the homicidal sexual sadist.
There could actually be a brotherhood of sorts, and that could contain,
many types of people.The way the gals are killed are not disclosed,
other than then, the obvious burning to some, and one with full body
trauma. Unless someone has learned more info., I wonder if any are
secretly held, and used, tortured, till deemed disposable.Twisted sick.
Plus with bodies splintering out all over, there are a lot of different
jurisdictions.I hope the police from each place is keeping in touch
with each other.There could even be a cop who has knowledge, who knows?
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quigley
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Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
Um ... I guess hellsangelssaskatoon.ca with www. in front of it might
give us a bit of a clue here
and from a Criminal Intelligence Service Canada 2001 report at
http://www.cfdp.ca/crint01.htm
Quote:
Trafficking in cocaine and marijuana continues to be the primary
activity of the HELLS ANGELS Saskatoon chapter. The gang manages
numerous marijuana grow operations and is also involved in strip clubs
and escort agencies
from Injusticebusters "Gangs of Saskatoon"
http://www.injusticebusters.com/04/Gangs_of_Saskatoon.htm
Quote:
The Hells Angels are using street gangs to deal illegal drugs such as
"crystal meth," a highly addictive stimulant popping up everywhere on
the streets of Saskatoon, say police.
"There is a tonne of crystal meth in town here. It's appeared in huge
quantities over the past year," Saskatoon Police Services Sgt. Gavin
Morgan told the Saskatchewan News Network.
"We do have intelligence that there are connections in the drug trade
between the Hells Angels and the Native street gangs."
quig
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The Hells Angels seem to be the missing link between the CIA drug lords
and the various street gangs, be they the black , Italian, or native
gangs
not to mention the fact that the CIA has been known to plant their own
in key positions at many police departments:
CIA importing cocaine into U.S.: Dateline NBC
video
http://tinyurl.com/yxs4wf
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I watched that and drew the conclusion that the CIA denies it,
So no, they did not admit dealing drugs.
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A Los Angelas Police narcotics detective
said it. I believe him. btw, he is not the only one to come
forward) He was recruited by the CIA , but turned them down
to work for the LAPD instead.
found another video on this:
video:
Former narcotics investigator Mike Ruppert was forced out of the LAPD
in 1977 when he exposed the evidence of drug trafficking by the CIA.
THis is one of his first appearances caught on video in 1997 at the
Granada Forum in California. Topic is CIA Drug Running.
http://tinyurl.com/yjugzk
Reply » .com/ya86ey
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gornk wrote:
> I was speaking today with a colleague, trying to
> get myself inside the head of a blood-drinker,
> and that of a rich and powerful blood-drinker at
> that.
>
>
> What strains the credulity of the average person is that they
> cannot believe that 'respectable', 'intelligent', 'prominent'
> people would engage in such things. Is it possible?
> But to better understand , research the life of Benjamin Franklin for
> some insight into the type of people I am referring to.
> Benjamin Franklin was both ingenious and satanic.
>
>
> In my research, the conclusion that I came to is that this belief
> system is also prevalent among some of the most prominent,
> prolific, and brilliant minds in the world.
>
>
> Hence, the rich and powerful involved, and very willing both to provide
>
>
>
> eachother victims and to help conceal the crimes.
>
>
> Some of these people are worshipped for their genious.
> Their genious is fed by evil, but their genious also produces
> immeasurable wealth and knowledge to mankind.
>
>
> The rich and powerful are heavily into hedonism. They recognize no
> boundaries. Their quest is to achieve complete omnipotence, and these
> people feel that they are performing A SERVICE TO HUMANITY each time
> they ritualistically take a life. Each time they give a life surge to
> the stronger among us.
>
>
> That is why the ritual murder is termed a 'sacrifice'. They are willing
>
>
>
> that humanity , (and the victim's loved ones) lose these people in
> order that the stronger among us, the smartest, perhaps even the
> ingenious, will gain , at any cost, greater fortitude, greater life
> force, to perform their great works in the service of mankind.
>
>
> This is also why the victims of this network tend to be the weaker
> underlings, society's discarded, such as poor and uneducated
> people/hitchhikers/ prostitutes. These are deemed to be the expendable
> sector of society, the equivalent of beef cattle, in service to the
> greater good of humanity.
>
>
> warning: graphic video of kosher slaughter process at
> kosher meat packing plant.
>
>
> (similar to satanic ritual torture of animals and people. Ancient
> practice of drinking blood of tortured victims/animals in occult
> rituals. Why?
> The blood of the tortured is the most ancient narcotic , going back to
> man's most primitive beginnings. The blood of the tortured is full of
> natural opiates (endorphin pain-killers) secreted by the brain
> into the blood stream. The blood of the tortured (animal or human) is
> also full of adrenaline, the natural stimulant that is secreted into
> the blood by the adrenal glands
> for the 'fight or flight' response . Thus pain and fear produce a
> harvest of opiates and stimulants from the glands of a mammal.
>
>
> graphic video of kosher slaughter: http://tinyurl.com/y8zfu8
>
>
> (note how this death chamber is crafted to generate maximum terror in
> the animals.)
> Standard north american plants immediately kill the animal with
> a bolt through the head, far different from the kosher meat processing
> depicted here. In this video, notice how the slaughter chamber is
> crafted to provoke maximum terror among the animals, with the deafening
>
>
>
> sound of several hellish machines operating simultaneosly and the
> simultaneous death throes of several animals. Note how the machine
> immobilizes the head of the animals while its voice box is ripped from
> the throat with a hook after the throat is slit, to silence the animal,
>
>
>
> then the machine squeezes the torso of the animal, its blood draining
> into a grate
> and the legs then mechanically crushed to prevent it from standing
> while it dies slowly, . This is
> conducted to produce maximum pain and terror. (notice that part
> of the ritual is that if the animal makes eye contact with anyone
> else other than the appointed throat cutter, they are to kick blood
> into it's eyes.)
>
>
> In occult rituals, the victim is tortured and their blood drained into
> goblets.
> This blood is immediately drinken because it provides an incredible
> narcotic high.
> Just like many popular narcotics are actually a mixture of opiates and
> stimulants together (morphine and amphetamines) (codeine and caffeine).
>
>
>
> This ancient practice created an addiction among it's proponents. It
> became habitual, and also
> imbued with spiritual meaning among the ignorant. Ancient man did not
> understand why the blood of the tortured contained opiates and
> stimulants, or why drinking this blood made him feel like a god. He
> thought that this was his mystical connection with dark spirits, and
> the narcotic high a reward by spirits for his cruelty toward his
>
>
> I wonder how blood drinkers deal with these modern scourges of AIDS,
> hepc etc.
> ARe people known to be uninfected chosen? Maybe children or
> babies in cases that they wish to use actual human blood? Do they have
> access to the medical
> records of victims? Access to blood lab records or testing facilities?
>
>
>
> Somehow they are obtaining victims with clean blood.
> In case that blood safety is in question , I would guess that, as
> mentioned earlier, we can now synthesize same or even more
> powerful endorphin and adrenaline , in the form of narcotic
> mixtures,through plant-based opiates (endorphins) and stimulants
> (adrenaline) . If the blood cannot be used in the ritual, then the cult
>
>
>
> will use drugs.
> I am willing to bet that there is still a higher than average incidence
>
>
>
> of HIV among satanists, due to these factors. Especially back in the
> early 1980's before public awareness and the attendant precautions.
>
>
> My guess is that these rituals are often designed equally around
> ministering to the hormonal/bestial needs of these people.
> It is probable that those performing these acts feel that they
> reach a physically satiated state from participating. The act of
> committing the violence alone, under the proscribed ritual, does things
>
>
>
> to their blood and brain chemistry from which they derive strength,
> both spiritual and physical.
>
>
> A good analogy I can think of is sport hunters and sport fishermen, and
>
>
>
> especially sport fisherman, who unlike hunters, often release or
> discard their catch. There is no logical reason to lure fish and
> inflict pain on them, and then release them into the water. These are
> not particularly sadistic people either. There is something primordial
> and ancient about the life and death struggle of having a fish on the
> line. It is struggling for its life, fighting, and one must in turn
> resist its fight, in effect fight for one's life. Fight or flight
> hormones are released into the blood.
> Many people are addicted to the thrill of hooking a big fish, even if
> they throw it back.
> This is the adrenaline rush of the predator, of the hunter.
> Some people watch horror films for the same reason. They get an
> adrenaline rush from being frightened, and find that their sedentary
> and secure life dulls them into not hormonally experiencing life's
> daily struggle for survival. This is the adrenaline rush of the hunted.
>
>
>
> These are both fight or flight hormonal rushes that people are
> experiencing/achieving.
> That of the hunter and that of the hunted. There may be a crucial
> difference here. Satanists may be achieving a blood chemistry
> conducive to physical stamina, even genius, through ritualistic
> violence
> (adrenaline rush of the predator) followed by blood drinking, or
> perhaps the consumption of powerful narcotics containing both opiates
> and stimulants. (Mick Jagger, a knighted Freemason of the highest
> order, put out a record called 'Goats Head Soup', with a picture of a
> goats head in a pot. He was also a notorious user of heroine, and one
> of the Rolling Stones biggest hits is a song called 'Sympathy for the
> Devil'.
> Mick Jagger fits the exact profile of the satanic persona that I make
> reference to .
> Extremely wealthy, and revered, gifted and talented, at one point the
> subject of mass adoration at its absurd extreme.
> He achieved cult-status popularity. People worshipped him, and so he
> accepted their offerings......a very good candidate for satanism,
> to be recruited by the cult, to be made to drink human blood. He too
> would be sacrificing something in participation, sacrificing his
> morality
> as part of the process, likely in the hopes of attaining greater
> strength with which to reward his supporters, and earn their adulation.
>
>
>
> Jagger would be just a tiny cog, one of thousands and tens of thousands
>
>
>
> of prominent people who are 'dabbled' in the occult, dipped in the
> blood.
> I mention him here only because his occult past is fairly widely known.
>
>
>
> What was not known until recently is the extent of occultism, and the
> seriousness
> of it practitioners: their extremism.
> Bohemian Grove: satanic rituals of rich and powerful
> DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE
> WHAT IS BOHEMIAN GROVE?
> SEE THE TRUTH AS DOCUMENTED IN ALEX'S FILM, DARK SECRETS: INSIDE
> BOHEMIAN GROVE
>
>
> Since 1873, the global elite has held secret meetings in the ancient
> redwood forest of Northern California. Members of the Bohemian Club,
> headquartered in San Francisco, CA, include Former Presidents
> Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush family maintains a strong
> involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of this all-male
> organization don red, black and silver robes and conduct an occult
> ritual Wherein they Worship a giant stone owl, sacrificing a human
> being in effigy to What they call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."
>
>
> Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated
> Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual
>
>
>
> on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just
> Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN
> GROVE
> watch the video online here:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/j29x9
>
>
> (bear in mind that the ritual depicted here is for the 'outer circle',
> the largest and most mainstream gathering of the year. This is where
> each member is allowed to bring a guest. This is recruitment time. The
> real satanic stuff at the Grove goes on not in the summer time,
> when this video was shot, but in the autumn , and the autumn rituals
> are ultra secretive, include only insiders in tiny, concealed groups.
>
>
> The grove itself is a massive, thickly forested rural installation
> protected by the united states Secret Service. If ritual human
> sacrifice (murder) were to take place securely and secretly anywhere in
>
>
>
> America, it would have to be at a place like this, for it to remain a
> secret for so long, and it would likely be somewhere here, on this
> forested land, at some dark and obscure time of year.)
> Child abductee and child prostitute Paul Bonacci has written a book in
> which he describes taking part as a child in pedophile/murder rituals
> at Bohemian Grove)
>
>
> Skull and Bones: Secret Satanic Society of the political elite
> I. http://tinyurl.com/f9bme
> II. http://tinyurl.com/qrg9p
>
>
> Burned bodies are sometimes connected with rituals involving child
> sacrifice. The parents should be thoroughly investigated in any case
> in which a body is found burned, especially that of a youth.
> Burning the body is of course also a good means of destroying forensic
> evidence thoroughly. You burn up any finger prints or fibres, and/or
> conceal the type of injuries inflicted during the killing. I suspect
> the fire department therefore plays a very large role in secret
> societies.
>
>
> As far as media/police/establishment complicity in this: the mind
> boggles.
> A fish rots from the head down. If you have the allegiance of key
> offices of power, key to the power structures of society, that may be
> all that is required.
> Everyone in authority is with you, or they are out.
> 'You are with us, or you are against us.' From there follows mysterious
>
>
>
> hirings and firings, transfers , promotions, demotions. Recruitment.
> Blacklisting, blackballing, blackmailing, setups, defamations/character
>
>
>
> assassinations. Bribes. Payouts. Honors. Election financing/voter
> fraud. Murders. You name it, there are ways to achieve what we are
> discussing here.
>
>
> The system can be manipulated from within.
> What comes to mind is that virtually unlimited resources are expended.
> As in the Jack the Ripper murders (see the film
>
>
>
> >From Hell, featuring actor Johnny Depp), some of the killings appear to
>
>
> be 'silencings' or people being 'being disappeared' because they know
> something. Canada's justice system is really something too. How many of
>
>
> these apparently random 'first offence' killers are actually hired to
> silence people. If they are caught, they know that it means a maximum
> of about five to eight years inside. Not bad, if you are secretly paid
> a large sum of money. You do five years inside, but you are making
> fifty
> thousand a year to be there , and there is a good chance that you
> will not even be caught to begin with.
>
>
> Hollywood Films about secret societies to watch:
>
>
>
> >From Hell
>
>
> Skulls
> Skulls II
> Skulls III
>
> AS far as a network or a brotherhood, we already have words for some of
>
>
>
> those: gangs, mafia, etc. How deeply are the bikers, the rappers. or
> the mafioso tied up in this? Some these pimp
> 'street gangs' like the Crips and bloods in L.A. or the Canadian street
>
>
>
> gangs are heavily into child prostitution/procurement.
> In Halifax it was the Glasgow Guys , a black gang that had a nationwide
>
>
>
> network of pimps and recruited teenaged girls, transporting them from
> city to city. and murdering them if they tried to escape or threatened
> to tell anyone. It emerged that the leaders of many of these
> rap/pimp/rasta
> gangs have been heavily into voodoo, paganism, and attending wiccan
> events/occult parties and gatherings. Larry King was a black politician
>
>
>
> who ran a child pimping ring in Washington, D.C
> watch this film: http://tinyurl.com/ykdd9o
> It is a made-for television documentary that, mysteriously, never made
> it to air, its broadcast cancelled at the last minute by 'the powers
> that be'.
> If you want to know how deep and how high the corruption goes, watch
> 'The Clinton Chronicles' on Google video.
>
>
> one of the ancient Babylonian human sacrifice rituals involved
> parents burning their children alive as a sacrifice to 'Molech'
> Christine Van Hees was ritually sacrificed and burned by Dutroux and
> his cult.
> According to people in the area on the night of the murder, who heard a
>
>
>
> young
> woman screaming, one of the last utterances Van Hees is said to have
> issued:
> "No, not that! Stop! Mum!"
> Van Hees was murdered not far from her parents home, in the basement
> of an abandoned farm house, and as part of her torture was doused in
> kerosine and lit on fire.
>
>
> also of interest:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1024319,00.html
> Dutroux reveals that police helped in teens' kidnap
> BY AGENCIES IN ARLON, BELGIUM
>
>
> Marc Dutroux, whose face in court cannot be shown under Belgian law
>
>
> Marc Dutroux, the Belgian paedophile, revealed today that police
> officers helped him to abduct two young women whose bodies were later
> discovered buried in his garden.
>
>
> Testifying for the first time at his trial, Dutroux said that he
> abducted An Marchal, 17, and Eefje Lambrecks, 19, with the help of a
> heroin-addicted friend, who is also on trial, and two other men.
>
>
> "I later found out they were members of the police force," he told the
> court, without identifying them.
> Dutroux, 47, a convicted paedophile, is testifying on the third day of
> his trial in the small town of Arlon. He is accused of kidnapping,
> imprisoning and repeatedly raping six girls in the 1990s, and killing
> four of them.
>
>
> His defence team says that he was part of a large paedophile network
> that reached into the legal establishment.
>
>
> Dutroux told the court: "It is regrettable that four people can never
> come back. I cannot repair that. If I hadn't agreed to do what I did
> they would probably be alive.
>
>
> "I cannot accept all responsibility, but take responsibility for the
> role I played."
>
>
> Dutroux told the court that one of the police officers and his alleged
> drug-addict accomplice, Michel Lelièvre, raped Ms Marchal after the
> teenagers were kidnapped while on holiday near the Belgian coastal town
>
>
>
> of Ostende.
>
>
> But Dutroux denied murdering the two young women, who according to a
> post-mortem examination, were most likely to have been drugged until
> they were unconscious and then buried alive.
>
>
> Dutroux said that he left the two young women with Mr Lelièvre and a
> French accomplice, Bernard Weinstein, whom Dutroux has today denied
> killing, after previously admitting to murder while in custody. The two
>
>
>
> men planned to force the women into prostitution.
>
>
> Dutroux told the court: "I never thought that they were going to kill
> them. I find it a great shame that these girls died. It's a disaster."
>
>
> Their bodies were discovered by the police in September 1996, buried in
>
>
>
> the garden of a property belonging to Dutroux.
>
>
> A month before, the brutally abused bodies of Julie Lejeune and Melissa
>
>
>
> Russo, two eight-year-old girls, were unearthed from another Dutroux
> property, along with that of Mr Weinstein.
>
>
> Post-mortem examination reports showed that the children had starved to
>
>
>
> death after being raped and beaten.
> **********
> transcript of BBC television show broadcast throughout Europe:
> Correspondent: Belgium's X-Files
>
>
> Tx Date 5th May 2002
>
>
> This script was made from audio tape - any inaccuracies are due to
> voices being unclear or inaudible
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
>
>
> In 1996 this woman came forward to tell the Belgian
> authorities she'd spent her childhood years as the victim
> of a paedophile network.
> She described a world of organised sexual abuse, torture
> and even murder.
> It was terrible, you didn't believe your eyes and I didn't
> believe that humans could do that.
>
>
> She talked of violent child sex orgies with politicians,
> judges and influential businessmen; a Belgian
> underworld in which the establishment has refused to
> believe.
>
>
> Claude Eerdekens says
> Voice over
>
>
> Regina Louf is a pathological liar; she's a woman who's
> invented a series of scenarios, which just don't stand up.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
> A campaign followed to discredit her evidence. But now,
> in an exclusive interview, the policeman assigned to
> investigate her claims has broken his silence.
> He says the enquiry was blocked because it threatened to
> reveal too much.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens says
> I'm convinced that she has been a victim - that's for sure.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
> In June 1996 this Belgian slum revealed a bitter secret
> that would come to haunt the nation.
> The eyes of the world watched in horror. Into the light
> emerged two young girls.
> Laetitia, aged fourteen and Sabine just twelve were the
> latest in a long line of girls who'd gone missing.
>
>
> Marc Dutroux, a convicted rapist and kidnapper, had led
> the police to where he'd imprisoned them.
> Relief swept Belgium as their tearful homecoming was
> caught on camera.
> But it soon turned to horror when police revealed the
> secret cage hidden in the cellar of Dutroux's house.
>
>
> The girls had been kept here, drugged and repeatedly
> raped.
> But what of Belgium's other missing children. Eight year
> olds Julie and Melissa who were missing for more than a
> year and twelve others who'd vanished mysteriously.
>
>
> Was this a new lead in the hunt for them?
>
>
> The hopes of their parents were soon dashed. Within
> days Marc Dutroux led police to the site where the bodies
> of Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo were buried.
> The parents were informed but when the Russos asked to
> see their daughter, Melissa, for the last time, they were
> refused.
>
>
> Mother of Melissa
> Voice over
>
>
> We begged, we were crying to see her. Really we insisted
> with our lawyer, we really cried. They said no, it's not
> possible, that's the law. But we said what's the point of
> the law. And they said it's for your own psychological
> good.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> It's not up to them to know what's good for our
> psychological well-being. What would have been good
> for us was to be certain.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
> It's six years since the police unearthed the bodies of
> Julie and Melissa buried in the garden of this house.
>
>
> What's extraordinary to me is that though Dutroux's in
> jail, he's never been tried for these crimes. It's as though
> the judicial system froze when faced with having to bring
> him to trial.
>
>
> Officially Dutroux lived on benefits yet this house, now
> derelict, was one of five that he owned.
> The bodies of two more missing girls were found at
> another of his houses- Efje Ambrecks and An Marchal.
>
>
> Aston
> PAUL MARCHAL
> Father of Victim
>
>
> I didn't believe that it was possible that children were
> kept in, in a cellar and were raped and, and kept there,
> until that Dutroux was, taken to prison and that he, that
> he could see the cellar. At the moment I had to believe.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
>
>
> Before the murders Marc Dutroux had already been
> convicted of five charges of rape and kidnapping. Yet
> somehow he'd served only six years in jail before he was
> released back into the Charleroi underworld.
>
>
> This was once Belgium's industrial heartland but today
> its most famous industry is crime.
>
>
> Dutroux melted back into this realm of prostitution, drug
> traffic and stolen cars and began to plan his next project -
> the kidnap of children.
> For the parents now burying their murdered daughters
> after more than a year of fruitless searching, this was not
> the end of their nightmare. They would soon find out
> that Dutroux had been a prime suspect from the start, yet
> nothing had been done to save their girls.
>
>
> Melissa's father is still asking why his daughter was
> allowed to die.
>
>
> Aston
> GINO RUSSO
> Father of Melissa
> Voice over
>
>
> "Ten days after the kidnapping of Julie and Melissa in '95,
> three witnesses said it was Dutroux who was kidnapping
> children. But they don't go looking for Julie and Melissa
> at his house straight after the kidnapping. It's
> inexplicable. And he continues to kidnap other children.
> They put a special surveillance unit to watch Dutroux
> and he continues to kidnap children. It's inexplicable;
> the whole thing is inexplicable from start to finish."
>
>
> Frenkiel says:
>
>
> What is known is that Dutroux was finally caught when
> his white van was identified. It had been used to snatch a
> sixth girl, miles away from his home patch.
>
>
> The man who arrested Dutroux was Jean Marc Conerotte,
> an investigating magistrate. He became a national hero,
> uniquely respected by the parents of the murdered
> children.
>
>
> Paul Marchal
> "He is someone who want to know the truth. You can feel
> it when you talk to him, you can feel that he want to
> investigate, the he want to have the truth. He is a very
> good magistrate."
>
>
> Conerotte arrested Dutroux's associates. Among the first
> was Jean Michel Nihoul.
> Nihoul and Dutroux had been seen at the site of the latest
> abduction the night before. They'd been in constant
> phone contact the day it happened. And the next day
> Nihoul gave ten thousand pounds worth of drugs to an
> accomplice of Dutroux.
>
>
> One witness claimed, Nihoul had ordered a girl.
> Conerotte knew Nihoul had influential friends, he
> suspected he was the brains behind a network supplying
> clients with children to abuse. It's a charge Nihoul
> denies.
> Conerotte appealed to the public for information.
>
>
> "When I saw him walking down the stairs, I thought that I
> knew everything about him. It was a shock; I thought
> finally they stopped him.
> Regina Louf was one of the first to come forward. She
> said that as a child she'd been abused for many years in a
> paedophile network involving Nihoul and Dutroux.
> I remember Jean Michel Nihoul as a very cruel man; he
> abused children in a very sadistic way.
>
>
> She says that at the age of twelve she was taken with
> other children to sex parties. And, she told investigators,
> Dutroux was there, working for Nihoul.
>
>
> REGINA LOUF
> "Dutroux was a boy who brought drugs, cocaine and
> something like that, to these parties, who brought some
> girls, watched girls at these parties. Nihoul, he, he was a
> sort of party beast. Dutroux was more on the side."
>
>
> Nihoul denies he's ever met Regina Louf. But her story's
> never changed. Nihoul, she said, was one of those who
> organised the parties and invited the cream of Belgian
> society - judges, politicians and influential businessmen
> in order to compromise them.
>
>
> "It was big business, yeah and it was very well organised
> too. There was a lot of money going on there and a lot of
> blackmail also. They had a lot of parties; they filmed it
> even. So, yes, yes, it exists. I know it sounds crazy and I
> know that there is a big taboo on everything like that but
> it exists."
>
>
> Regina Louf's story was horrific. But her account of a
> violent paedophile underworld was by now reinforced by
> new witnesses, some of whom also named influential
> people.
>
>
> The investigation began. The witnesses' identities were
> protected. Each was given a codename beginning with X.
> Regina was X-1. They went up to X-9. Their testimonies
> became known as Belgium's X-Files.
>
>
> The task of trying to verify them fell to a young police
> investigator.
>
>
> RUDY HOSKENS
> Team Leader, Police
> investigation
>
>
> "They were telling stories we hadn't heard before in our
> lives. Things we couldn't believe at first. So we told
> ourselves, is this true? Could this be true? And when it
> is true it's very, it's very, it's frightening that things like
> that could happen".
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "We had a special room for the interviews. It was
> specially kept for people who had been victimised by
> such matters. There was a camera in the room. They
> were done mostly in the evening or the early hours.
> When the interviews were finished, they were written
> down by a few people of my team, all the way from the
> first word to the last, literally."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> But before the investigation could get under way there
> was a bombshell.
>
>
> Jean Marc Conerotte, the man who'd arrested Dutroux,
> who'd saved the imprisoned girls, was sacked from the
> case.
>
>
> His removal caused a public outcry. Belgians lost faith in
> their judicial system: Crowds descended on the Palace of
> Justice and accused the courts of colluding with the
> killers.
>
>
> Crowds shouting
>
>
> The father of one of the murdered girls spoke for all.
>
>
> Gino Russo
> Subtitles
>
>
> "This decision is like spitting on
> the graves of Julie and Melissa."
>
>
> Gino Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "As an investigating magistrate, Conerotte, who arrests
> ten people and they sack him and they appoint another
> investigation magistrate, Langlois, who's never done the
> job before. It's his first appointment in the most
> important investigation, in the biggest file of the century.
> You're going to put in an investigating magistrate who's
> never done the job before - can you understand that?"
>
>
> Three hundred thousand outraged Belgians marched
> through Brussels in a demonstration of grief and
> solidarity. This White March was the largest protest the
> country had ever seen.
>
>
> Frenkiel
> Belgians felt that the dismissal of Conerotte was a
> betrayal of Dutroux's victims, that it signalled the end of
> any real search for a network.
>
>
> The two rescued girls were overwhelmed.
>
>
> Laetitia
> Subtitle
>
>
> "Thank you for coming in such large numbers."
>
>
> Sabine
> Subtitle
>
>
> "Thank you all for coming."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The country's highest legal authorities had removed the
> only judge in which the public had any faith because he'd
> attended a fund raising dinner for the families of missing
> children. A conflict of interest they'd called it; a lack of
> judgement. The government feared a revolution.
>
>
> Aston
> VINCENT DECROLY MP
> "I think there were a kind of insurrection climate, a kind of
> pre-revolutionary climate here. You know, the big
> powers in Belgium so the magistrates and the political
> circus, the government, the parliament, everything was
> totally discredited, everything was totally discredited."
>
>
> No one knew what to believe anymore. Rumour and
> speculation spawned a variety of wild theories.
>
>
> Actor
> "You will instigate ultimate fear."
> A full length feature film suggested the whole affair was part of an
> extreme right wing plot to destabilise the country.
>
>
> Aston
> 'Blue Belgium'
> by Rob Van Eyck
>
>
> "I'm very pleased Victor. Three hundred thousand idiots
> marching in Brussels and an ocean of white balloons -
> magnificent! Pathetic and impressive at the same time.
> We really got them exactly where we want them."
>
>
> To appease the public's concern, parliament set up the
> Dutroux Nihoul Commission.
> subtitles
>
>
> I propose that the commission
> observe a moment's silence.
>
>
> 00.15.22
> Aston
> VINCENT DECROLY MP
> Commission member
> As the pressure grew more and more they decided, in a
> kind of panic climate, to create the commission because
> the political world had to try to find an answer.
>
>
> 00.15.35
> Olenka Frenkiel
> But what the commission revealed was incompetence that
> beggared belief.
>
>
> Police had been told of Dutroux's plans to make money
> by kidnapping children. They had his house under
> surveillance throughout the abductions.
>
>
> They even searched inside and heard the sound of
> children but failed to find the dungeon.
> What it established beyond doubt was that the girls could
> have been saved.
>
>
> Aston
> CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> Commission member
>
>
> They had everything they needed to arrest Dutroux.
> That's the scandal of this affair. Dutroux was known; he
> had previous form. They had valid intelligence that he'd
> built the hiding place in the cellar for the little girls.
> There was information from Charleroi that the children
> could be at the house.
> But when the parliamentary commission began to ask
> why, was it incompetence or had someone in authority
> protected Dutroux, co-operation with their investigation
> stopped.
>
>
> Aston
> GINO RUSSO
> Father of Melissa
> Voice over
>
>
> "It was completely sabotaged to the point that all the work
> they did has been locked away in archives for thirty
> years. It was parliament that voted that on itself. Can
> you imagine?"
>
>
> If the commission's job had been to restore stability, to
> clear the air of insurrection, it worked.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The danger to Belgium's establishment was over. But
> there was still no answer to the most important question -
> was the catalogue of failures pure incompetence or had
> Dutroux and his friends enjoyed protection?
>
>
> Were they protected?
>
>
> Aston
> CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> Commission member
> Voice over
>
>
> "On the question of protection we didn't discover much,
> unless you count the best protection that Dutroux could
> have had and that's the incompetence of Belgium's police
> and judicial system."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
>
>
> But Jean Michel Nihoul, the man suspected of hiring
> Dutroux to kidnap children, was released from jail after
> just five months. It's still unclear if he'll ever come to
> trial and some members of the commission remain
> convinced he is protected.
>
>
> Vincent Decroly
> "We succeeded in demonstrating that Nihoul was really an
> artist in protection, really a specialised man in
> manipulating enquiries, policemen and judges. We had
> proof about that."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Nihoul's release just left more unanswered questions for
> the families. The mother of Melissa, Carine Russo, has
> access to the legal evidence the court will bring against
> Dutroux.
> She's found no answers, nothing to clarify who stole,
> raped and killed her daughter. All charges Dutroux
> denies.
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "Five years on there's still no admission from Dutroux.
> There's no material evidence, no witness statements,
> which state that it was Dutroux who really kidnapped the
> children, who really raped them and who really killed
> them."
>
>
> 00.18.57
> Gino Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "It's a catastrophe because nothing is anymore clear
> today. Nothing is clear."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The parents suspect Dutroux was not acting alone. That
> others were involved in abducting and hiding the girls.
>
>
> When he was briefly imprisoned for car theft in
> November 1995, Dutroux claims to have left the girls in
> his cellar, in this specially constructed cage with a little
> food and water.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> On his release, after nearly four months, Dutroux claims
> he'd found the children barely alive, that he tried to save
> them but they died in his arms.
>
>
> But for the Russos, this story can't be true.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "Four months incarceration of two little girls of eight
> years old in a cellar in the middle of winter. But when I
> say cellar it's a little hide built inside the cellar, so it's
> tiny, three metres by two, even less. No windows,
> completely dark, they cut off the heating."
>
>
> Gino Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> They cut the electricity and heat.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> And no food - for four months. Then he says when he
> came out of prison four months later, they're still alive.
> Well then they're superhuman. It's unimaginable two
> children of eight holding out, alone, with nothing to
> sustain them - no food, no heat, no human, no
> psychological contact. Nothing. In a little cage like that
> for such a long time and survive.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> So how did they survive so long? Did someone else keep
> them alive?
>
>
> The Palace of Justice in Liege is the seat of one of
> Belgium's most powerful figures - Prosecutor General
> Anne Thily, who's in charge of the case.
>
>
> She says there's no evidence to contradict Dutroux's
> version of how the children died.
> So how did the children survive so long? Nearly four
> months, until Dutroux was released from prison.
> 00.21.12
> Aston
> ANNE THILY
> Prosecutor General
> Voice over
>
>
> No, no, Julie was dead. Melissa was nearly dead and
> then she died. I think it was the next day.
>
>
> But Melissa, how could she have survived nearly four
> months?
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> Survive in what condition? In a lamentable state, she
> was so weak she could not get up. That's according to
> Dutroux of course; no one else was there.
>
>
> Dutroux was acting alone. This is the mantra repeated
> again and again in Belgium with a certitude that for the
> victims' parents is inexplicable.
>
>
> They believe that investigators have blocked every lead,
> rejected every clue, which would reveal that Dutroux was
> kidnapping girls for someone else.
>
>
> Most painful perhaps is the autopsy report, which shows
> Melissa had been repeatedly raped about two weeks
> before her death, while Dutroux was in jail.
>
>
> So who raped this child? Dutroux denies he raped the
> girls.
>
>
> But isn't it simple to find out if Dutroux raped them or
> someone else - scientifically?
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "Normally yes, in principal, yes. But in fact the most
> elementary scientific tests, like DNA tests, the traces of
> the culprit on the body of the child, were just not done."
>
>
> Back in the Palace of Justice they say the DNA tests were
> done but the results were inconclusive.
>
>
> Can you explain why there was no DNA analysis done?
>
>
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> DNA analysis was done Madame!
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> And the results?
>
>
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> Nothing.
>
>
> Frenkiel
> What does that mean? That there was no trace of sperm?
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> They were in a very putrefied state. It did not allow us to
> make an analysis of that type, of sperm or anything.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> That's not what's written in the autopsy report. Again
> the story doesn't square.
>
>
> The bodies weren't severely decomposed. DNA can be
> identified from samples taken long after death. The
> question remains unanswered - why is there no DNA
> result, might it have shown that someone else had raped
> Melissa?
>
>
> Other forensic tests that should have been routine were
> just not done. Human hairs collected from Dutroux's
> dungeon weren't sent for analysis.
>
>
> The logic was strange. They claimed that as there was no
> evidence anyone else had entered the cage, there was no
> need to analyse the hair.
>
>
> In five years Conerotte's successor has shed no light on
> the abduction, imprisonment or death of the girls.
>
>
> Jacques Langlois refused to be interviewed.
>
>
> PAUL MARCHAL
> Father
> "Langlois don't believe in a sort of network. For Langlois,
> Dutroux is the only one who used the girls. For Langlois
> it's, it's simple; there's one raper, Dutroux, a closed case."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> By the Spring of 1997, evidence of a paedophile network
> linked to the Dutroux affair was emerging from the
> testimony of the X witnesses.
>
>
> Regina Louf had provided investigators with details of
> her childhood abuse, which they'd begun to check.
>
>
> RUDY HOSKENS
> Team Leader, Police
> investigation
> "In one of her testimonies she explained how a certain
> person had been murdered in a certain place. So, we
> went to look for that case, that old case, she described it,
> where it happened more or less."
>
>
> REGINA LOUF
> "I remember it like it's a film in my head. I can close my
> eyes and see every little detail of that house she was
> murdered."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Regina Louf described a house where in 1984 she said
> she saw the torture and murder of a young girl. The
> house was connected to an underground mushroom farm.
>
>
> The building has since been demolished. But Rudy
> Hoskens' team identified it and matched Regina's story
> to an unsolved murder - that of fifteen year old Christine
> van Hees.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "She gave us some details that made us think it's
> impossible to give without having been there at that
> place, or without having, yeah, lived that in the way the
> body was found at that time and the way she described
> the person was, was killed. There were some things that
> were exact."
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "It was a sort of bondage, so her legs and her hands and
> her throat were connected with the same rope and when
> she moved she strangled herself, yeah."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> The credibility of Regina Louf's testimony hinged partly
> on whether she really knew the house where Christine
> Van Hees was killed.
>
>
> This man grew up there, though his family sold it before
> the murder.
> It was two houses knocked into one with a unique
> passage of stairs and corridors. No one, he says, could
> describe it unless they'd been there.
>
>
> Man
> Voice over
>
>
> "There was the corridor here between the two houses.
> And she drew a picture of the doors inside. They were
> antique doors and she drew the mouldings. She
> described the wallpaper and the front step. I don't know
> how she could have described it all so faithfully if she'd
> never entered the house."
>
>
> Man
> Voice over
>
>
> "I don't know Regina Louf; I've never even met her. All I
> know is from her description of the house, of the
> mushroom farm, my brother and I agreed, I'm sure, it's
> certain she entered the mushroom farm. It's certain. "
>
>
> Frenkiel
> The police were now convinced they were on to
> something. That Regina Louf's testimony was credible.
>
>
> What's more it gave them a new link between Marc
> Dutroux and the man accused of being his boss, Jean
> Michel Nihoul.
>
>
> In the year before her death, Christine Van Hees was a
> regular visitor to the Brussels ice-rink where Marc
> Dutroux also went.
>
>
> He'd already been banned from the rink in Charleroi
> where he was notorious for molesting girls. The manager
> remembers it well.
>
>
> Ice rink manager
> Voice over
>
>
> "And then I saw him with a young girl who was up against
> the lockers like this. And Dutroux, who was in front of
> her with his hands all over her like this."
>
>
> So I grabbed him and pulled him back and brought him
> over here. At that moment my father-in-law turned up
> and when he found out what was happening he wanted to
> hit him. So I grabbed his arm, otherwise he would have
> punched him."
>
>
> Frenkiel
>
>
> When she wasn't skating Christine Van Hees used to
> spend time in the building of a pirate radio station. It
> belonged to Jean Michel Nihoul.
>
>
> Both men, Dutroux and Nihoul, were at Christine Van
> Hees's murder, according to Regina Louf.
>
>
> And Dutroux was involved in the murder?
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "He watched it and he didn't do something, anything and
> also he abused her that night, so, yes, he was involved."
>
>
> How many people were there?
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "I still don't know for sure. But around eight."
>
>
> Nihoul, Dutroux?
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "And a lot of others. So. But everybody except Dutroux
> is free."
>
>
> Oenka Frenkiel
> Nihoul denied it. But her testimony was dynamite. If
> true, it meant Dutroux and Nihoul were linked with
> another murder. But then out of the blue the
> investigation was stopped.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "We received a message that we couldn't investigate
> anymore just like that. We were sent home. Just like
> that, without an explanation because our work hadn't
> been done all right. Very strange."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Why were you taken off this case?
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "I wish I knew. Perhaps we were touching something we,
> we couldn't touch. Some people say this, we didn't have
> the proof at that moment to say things like that but
> perhaps we were coming closer to some things, yeah,
> perhaps."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Like what things?
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> I don't know, something Belgium or the world shouldn't
> know about.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Patric De Baets, the head of Hoskens' team, had been one
> of Belgium's most respected police investigators. It was
> he who'd taken Regina's testimony. Now he too was sent
> home, accused of manipulating her evidence.
>
>
> Patric De Baets, who questioned her, was accused of
> planting some of the information so that she would
> reproduce it. You watched that investigation. Was that
> true?
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> No, no way. No way. We even had some magistrates,
> judges and superior gendarmerie officers watching how
> we interviewed and they watched it from the first to the
> last moment and if we did, hadn't done it right at that
> time, they should have said to us, don't work that way.
> But they didn't tell us anything.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> For De Baets and his colleagues, charged with
> manipulating an enquiry, a Kafkaesque battle now began
> to clear their names.
>
>
> They were suspended and Regina Louf got a call from a
> member of the new team assigned in their place. His
> motive was clear.
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "He said well, we have to search for mistakes you made
> now and you have to prove now that you were right. I
> said no, I don't have to prove that I'm right. You have to
> investigate if I'm right or not. I'm not a police officer, I
> can't do house search and I can't interrogate my abusers,
> you have to do that. I just can tell my story and, and
> make testimony, that's all I can do. He said wrong, you
> have to prove it."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> News about Regina's story began to leak out.
>
>
> When the media took it up, it was to destroy her.
>
>
> Voice over
> Subtitles
>
>
> "X-1 and her fantasies -
> an investigation beyond the real."
>
>
> Presenter
> Madame, Monsieur, bonsoir...
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The flagship programme of the government funded
> French language channel was unequivocal. De Baets was
> guilty they declared and Regain Louf, a sinister and
> deranged liar.
>
>
> Claude Eerdekens
> Voice over
>
>
> I think Regina Louf is a pathological liar. She's a
> woman who's invented scenarios that don't stand up to
> scrutiny. It's all been shown to be fiction.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Well no, not according to the investigators who were
> sacked. They don't agree with you, they say they weren't
> even allowed to investigate.
>
>
> Claude Eerdekens
> Voice over
>
>
> No, that's not accurate. I continue to believe these men
> did not do their jobs properly and that they let the public
> think that what Regina Louf and the other anonymous
> witnesses said was partly true. That's all a tissue of lies,
> stories verging on the pornographic. They make no
> sense.
>
>
> Oenka Frenkiel
> Weren't you manipulated? I mean people have said she
> was completely mad; she invented the whole thing.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "Well some people fear, some people say this but they
> weren't there. We lived all the testimonies, we've seen
> them, we did the investigations. So, for ourselves, we
> know what should have been right or what could have
> been wrong. But when you don't, when you haven't
> lived it, when you haven't seen everything, you can't give
> an opinion on this, it's impossible. But we found some
> things that should have been investigated more."
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "I am married for thirteen years, I have four children, I live
> a normal life. I have a business of my own so I am not
> crazy. We are labelled as crazy, we have a stigma, we are
> stigmatised as crazy persons because we had the courage
> to talk about things that happened in our past. With
> person who played a role in the Belgian economy or
> politics or something like that. It was easier to make us
> crazy than to believe us."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Despite its earlier investigating zeal, Belgium's
> parliament now stood by as Regina Louf's testimony was
> declared worthless. The judiciary announced it would
> not be used in any trial.
>
>
> Snf that might have been the end of it had the files of the
> entire Dutroux investigation not been leaked.
>
>
> Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck and two other investigative
> journalists had access to every witness statement, every
> police report in the Dutroux affair.
>
>
> Their book on Belgium's X-Files shook the country.
>
>
> Frenkiel
> How did you get the information for the book?
>
>
> Aston
> MARIE-JEANNE VAN
> HEESWYCK
> Journalist
> "We had the opportunity to see the whole police file on
> the, the affair and the problem is that we wanted to be
> sure that there was no manipulation between, behind that
> because it's, it's always possible. So, we decided to meet
> a lot of people who were named in the files, who were
> witnesses in the file. And we met those people, without
> saying that, what we knew already. And we listened to
> their story."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> They found the new team had rewritten Regina Louf's
> original statements. Testimony had been changed.
>
>
> Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck
> "We began to check it. And we began to read again all the
> questioning of Regina Louf to see how they did that,
> rewrite it. And one by one we discovered that the
> gendarmes, police of De Baets, had pretended that De
> Baets manipulate, had manipulated the investigation. So
> everybody was tricked."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> To this day no evidence has ever been produced to
> support the allegations against De Baets. Yet he
> continues to be accused.
>
>
> I met him and his colleague in a Brussels café.
>
>
> Their careers are in ruins and the investigation into
> Regina's story is dead. And yet two separate inquires,
> cleared them of every charge that they manipulated her
> testimony.
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> "I show you the final report of the internal inquiry of the
> gendarmerie. It was made twenty-sixth June 2000."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> So what does this mean?
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> "That I'm not a bad policeman."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> But now that's cleared you, you face new, new charges,
> new allegations, new accusations against you.
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid of that because I know the
> conclusions will be the same.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> But why this constant barrage of accusations?
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> I don't know. I can imagination things but I can't explain
> them.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> For six years the parents of the murdered girls have
> grappled with the inexplicable. Why were their
> daughters left to die? Why has Dutroux never come to
> trial and why has every lead that might have revealed a
> network behind Dutroux been blocked or ignored?
>
>
> But Belgium's lost interest in their struggle. Today
> anyone who talks of a network, even the parents, is
> dismissed as deranged.
>
>
> Paul Marchal
> I talked in press about children who were raped and so on
> and they started again with saying that I'm a little bit
> foolish and that I'm fantasising. I'm sure that in several
> years everyone will believe that networks will exist then
> they have to accept.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Since Marc Dutroux's arrest anyone who's questioned
> the official line has been attacked. Every lead that might
> have widened the net has hit the buffers.
>
>
> Dutroux meanwhile has sat in jail. But outside, in the
> shadowy circles in which he moved, potential witnesses
> in the Dutroux affair have died in strange ways.
>
>
> A police informer with links to the Charleroi underworld,
> Jose Steppe, told a journalist he had explosive
> information on Dutroux. Two days before they were due
> to meet he died. His family believes he was poisoned.
>
>
> Jean Paul Tamino was up to his neck in the Charleroi
> underworld of stolen cars and prostitution. He was
> summoned to see the Charleroi police and disappeared.
> The day of Dutroux's arrest his foot was fished out of the
> canal.
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "It's quite a coincidence that they die just before they want
> to testify, you know, that's strange."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Social worker, Gina Pardaens worked with abused
> children. She'd identified the paedophile members of a
> pornography ring who'd threatened her. When she
> reported the threat to the police she was killed in an
> unexplained car crash.
>
>
> Francois Reyskens told a friend he'd seen one of the
> missing girls, Melissa, alive in Holland. Before he could
> tell the police his body was found crushed on the railway
> line. (sound of Train).
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Some twenty people, all potential witnesses in the
> Dutroux affair, have died in mysterious circumstances.
> Regina Louf
> "I survived it all, I don't know why. I survived my
> abusers, I survived my testimony just because I said it all.
> Why kill me now, you know, I'm mad."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> An uneasy peace has returned to Belgium. The streets
> are calm; the danger of insurrection has passed.
> The paedophile networks persist. Sometimes there are
> even arrests. Earlier this year nineteen men from one
> village were charged with child rape.
>
>
> But the Dutroux affair has paralysed Belgium's judiciary.
> After six years in jail, there is still no date for his trial.
> When it comes, it will satisfy no one.
>
>
> Paul Marchal
> The trial of Dutroux, it will be a theatre, circus and I
> don't want to be part of a circus. The truth is that there is
> a network and that they have to search for that network so
> that you can save other children in the future.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "In this country we will never get to the truth. There is
> just too much truth that needs to be exposed. I am
> certain that the people want to understand; they are
> capable of understanding a lot more than the politicians
> and judiciary want to tell them. They treat the public like
> children."
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "I did what I could do. I testified, I spoke up to the police,
> to the judges, I spoke up to the press, you know, I yelled
> it out. What can I do anymore now, I can't."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Children continue to go missing in Belgium. Dutroux's
> arrest has made no difference. Last year it was more than
> two thousand.
> Fifty-two of those cases remain unsolved.
>
>
> Voice over
> Olenka Frenkiel is live on-line now. Express your
> opinions and e-mail her your questions at:
>
>
> www.bbc.co.uk/correspondent
>
>
> Reporter
> OLENKA FRENKIEL
> ****************
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=203148388
>
>
> Latest on Canadian Pig Farmer, Robert Pickton's Serial Murder Trial:
> Judge Steps Down
> Published on Thursday, June 02, 2005 | Author MORRIS, Nick.
>
>
> Justice Geoffrey Barrow of British Columbia Supreme Court, the judge
> that was scheduled to preside over Canada's most prolific murder case
> was replaced Wednesday just days into pre-trial proceedings.
>
>
> Justice Barrow is stepping down from the trial of Robert Pickton, who
> stands accused of at least 22 murders and is believed to be Canada's
> most prolific serial killer.
>
>
> Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm informed lawyers at a short
> hearing that Justice Barrow cannot hear the case due to "scheduling
> problems."
>
>
> Dohm said he'll be replaced by Justice James Williams, who normally
> sits in New Westminster's Supreme Court.
>
>
> Pickton watched the events unfold as he appeared via a video link from
> the pre-trial centre, where he is currently incarcerated. Dressed in a
> black and grey shirt, he passively observed the scene in the courtroom.
>
>
>
> Pickton viewed proceedings via video link.
> Pickton viewed proceedings via video link. (?AP)
>
>
> Justice Barrow had only heard two days worth of arguments for and
> against a strict publication ban on pre-trial proceedings, that has
> been imposed on the trial. The hearing is due to resume on Friday and
> lawyers have been informed that they will need to recap their views on
> the ban. Dohm has said "The court will not lose any real time in this
> change."
>
>
> Pickton, a pig farmer from Vancouver's Port Coquitlam district has been
>
>
>
> in custody since his arrest on 7 February 2002, following a lengthy
> search of his farm and other properties he has owned. The search
> revealed the remains of 15 bodies located on his farm.
>
>
> In January of 2004 the remains of a further 10 women were found. In
> total 31 separate traces of DNA have been found on Pickton's property.
>
>
> Most of the victims are believed to have been vulnerable women working
> in the sex-trade in Vancouver's seedy Downtown Eastside area. The first
>
>
>
> woman to go missing from the area was Rebecca Guno, a prostitute and
> drug addict, in June of 1983.
>
>
> Since her disappearance, 61 women have been reported as missing from
> the BC area. It was not until early 2002, 19 years after the first
> woman vanished, that police made any charges in connection with any of
> the disappearances.
>
>
> After a few months of searching Pickton's pig farm, police charged him
> with seven counts of murder. In September and October of 2002 he was
> charged with a further eight counts of murder, following the discovery
> of yet more remains on his property. DNA traces of another victim were
> discovered on 9 January 2003, just days before Pickton's 13 January
> pre-trial, but officers announced that they would not be adding any
> further charges until afterwards, fearing that it would cause lengthy
> delays to the case.
>
>
> Crown prosecutor Mike Petrie and Pickton's defence lawyer Peter Ritchie
>
>
>
> would not comment on the reasons behind the switch of judges and how
> they felt about it, but the public opinion is one of surprise. Many
> feel that problems such as scheduling should have been considered
> before the preliminary hearing began. The general consensus was that
> the trial would continue into next year.
>
>
> Justice James Williams will preside over the restarted preliminary
> hearing when it starts this Friday.
> ********************
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yxbp83
>
>
> 'On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been
> ground up and mixed with pork from the farm.
> This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to
> friends and visitors of the farm.'
> *************
> the way this system operates is that key people are put in key places.
> For example
>
>
> Republican (so-called conservative) Congressman Mark Foley was revealed
>
>
>
> to be aggressively gay in pursuit of male teenagers and youth working
> as pages in the house.
> Then we find that he was placed in positions to influence policy
> in certain ways:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yx269u
> 'Foley played a leadership role on AIDS issues, supported the
> Employment Not-Discrimination Act, opposed anti-gay provisions of
> faith-based legislation, and voted against the Federal Marriage
> Amendment.
> He also co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's
> Caucus and helped to write much of the legislation regarding
> prosecution of pedophiles and child pornographers.'
>
>
> ******************
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> http://xfilescanada.spaces.live.com/blog/
>
>
> Pickton Murders
>
>
> The lawyer representing U.S. television stations said he does
> not believe the publication ban covers the Internet.
> But the stations have said they will black out transmissions
> to Canada.
> RCMP Const. Katherine Galliford said "police will be watching
> for violations of the publication ban." She goes on to say
> "And if there are any concerns that come to light we'll
> certainly investigate that further," Mentioning nothing about
> possible connections to missing children, or other serial
> killers involved in satanic cults reaching at least from
> Mission to Vancouver. She makes no comment that the police
> have stood down their watch on the Vancouver East Side.
>
>
> In May 2005, Crown attorneys added 12 more first-degree murder
> charges against Pickton, bringing the grim total to 27.
> Rebecca Guno, a drug addict and prostitute, vanished from
> Vancouver's downtown eastside in June 1983. Her name was the
> first of 61 that would eventually be placed on the list of
> women to disappear mysteriously from the drug-infested area
> over the two decades that followed.
> It wasn't until 19 years later, early in 2002, that charges
> were laid in any of the cases. The charges came not long after
> police focused their efforts on a farm in Port Coquitlam,
> outside Vancouver. Dozens of officers scoured the farm in
> search of evidence.
> Within months, the owner of that farm, 53-year-old Robert
> William Pickton, would face seven murder charges.
> September 1998: - Vancouver police set up a team to review
> files of up to 40 women missing as far back as 1971. One
> tracked down, deaths of two others from illeness, overdose,
> confirmed but no trace of many others.
> In July 2002, police made a plea for the public's help in
> locating nine more missing women, and said that if they cannot
> be found, their names will be added to the list of 54 other
> women who are missing.
> In the spring of 1999, two Vancouver detectives teamed up with
> two RCMP detectives to review the file pertaining to the 31
> missing women. In August of that year police began
> investigating an account by a woman, not a prostitute, who
> said that a man snatched her from the stairwell of a hotel in
> Vancouver's downtown eastside. The woman jumped from her
> captor's moving vehicle to escape.
> Accusations that police haven't done enough reached a fever
> pitch when former detective and geographic profiler Kim Rossmo
> claimed he told police that a serial killer was at work in the
> Vancouver area and was ignored. Rossmo said that
> disappearances from the neighborhood were normal, but that the
> number of incidents was abnormally high between 1995 and 1998.
>
>
> "If these activities go back to, say, 1995, seven years ago,
> some of (the victims) could be buried fairly deep," says
> former Vancouver police officer Kim Rossmo, an expert in
> serial killers. Contrary to his earlier statment for some
> unknown reason, he later says,"Now, one factor to the benefit
> of the police is criminals are lazy, so they're not going to
> be 40 feet below the surface,"
> Rossmo, who sued the Vancouver department for wrongful
> dismissal when they failed to renew his contract, claimed that
> a single predator was responsible for killing prostitutes in
> downtown Vancouver. The Vancouver department dismissed his
> claims as sour grapes.
>
>
> In 1998 I was introduced to Willy Pickton by a local Freemason
>
>
> West Baker. "Be careful, not everyone that has gone down that
>
>
> road has come back" was the ominous warning he gave me, he
>
>
> also warned me to stay out of the pig barn after 11:00 pm, or
>
>
> I would be horrified at what I saw, as Willy liked to butcher
>
>
> all different kinds of animals, in all different ways, like a
>
>
> Nazi doctor experimenting on Jews might. At first it seemed
>
>
> there was very little out of the ordinary, except the saturday
>
>
> "cock fights", and the all night orgies and strange foods at
>
>
> "Piggies Palace" however, after the news broke in 2002, creepy
>
>
> things just outside of my awareness started to make a whole
>
>
> lot more sense, and I, having done business there, was
>
>
> publicly requested to give a statment to the police. So I
>
>
> attended a series of interviews with the police "Missing
>
>
> women's task force" regarding the matter and submitted my dna
>
>
> sample as requested, spent hours under the lights and camera,
>
>
> almost as if I was on the spot. I was assured my dna would
>
>
> only be used in this case, I found this to be untrue, much
>
>
> later. I noticed something strange about the whole thing
>
>
> though. Appathy. They didn't seem to care about the
>
>
> implications of what I said, they were more interested in what
>
>
> I knew, they didn't seem to have the humanity, they were
>
>
> strangly detached, so I tested them a little, and found them
>
>
> not interested in the victims, or the truth behind the
>
>
> implications. I suggested, perhapse they start a missing
>
>
> children's task force, they thought that was funny, their
>
>
> micro expressions gave that away, though they didn't laugh.
>
>
> All of a sudden, it dawned on me, their in on it, the
>
>
> vancouver police were rounding them up, and Willy Pickton who
>
>
> dealt with them on a weekly basis, (he had an inside track on
>
>
> abandoned vehicles), was getting another cleanup contract, all
>
>
> the girls who were robbing the other drug addicts, instead of
>
>
> normal citizens, and were unable to re-pay their dealers, and
>
>
> had deteriorated (look at their faces) to a point as to be
>
>
> useless as prostitutes, were flaged by the Hell's Angels.
>
>
> Delivered to the farm in abandoned vehicles, and proccessed by
>
>
> Willy who was a mechanic, and a butcher. I realised the
>
>
> taskforce was compromised some how, so I pretended to still be
>
>
> their friend, and conducted my own investigation. As my own
>
>
> investigations, and "interviews" later revieled, the victim's
>
>
> thyroid glands, adrenaline glands, and other "Delacacies" were
>
>
> extracted from the dead, or sometimes still living beings,
>
>
> before the rest was put through a wood chipper, and fed to the
>
>
> "Piggies" Willy called them. Before the Media Ban, the Mayor
>
>
> of Port Coquitlam admitted to dining at a farm also owned by
>
>
> the Picktons, just down the road from Dominion St, there is an
>
>
> ominous quancet, on Burns Road the infamous "Piggies Palace".
>
>
> There were blood rituals there, adrenaline glands as
>
>
> appatizers, next to the cocaine dishes, during an all night
>
>
> orgy, the girls not yet ready to be served were kept captive
>
>
> at another location, and brought out as they were needed, for
>
>
> what ever purpose...so... here I am, kind of the odd man out
>
>
> so to speak, surrounded by vampyres, from dusk till dawn, so
>
>
> to speak with no real idea what was going on until much later.
>
>
> Politicans connected to Hell's Angels, connected to free
>
>
> Masons, oddfellows, illuminati, witches, warlocks, satanists,
>
>
> police, my "friends". Judges that put the media ban on this
>
>
> are in league with them as well too, Conrad Black owns all of
>
>
> our media, is a buildiberger. It would seem that these secret
>
>
> societies run our whole world, and they eat us too. Well, I
>
>
> really didn't expect to find this but I did. After the horror
>
>
> I saw, it will be a release if they come to kill me, cause I
>
>
> havn't even got to the best part yet, the tunnels. More of the
>
>
> missing woman and children should be found in the old train
>
>
> tunnels of New Westminster, than run deep underground to
>
>
> vancouver and to coquitlam, where they are blood fed, and put
>
>
> to use as required, people often hear them under the city, in
>
>
> the sewers, and under the stores along Front St. women
>
>
> sobbing, children crying, they are believed to be ghosts when
>
>
> heard, so people back track real quick, and never made the
>
>
> true discovery yet, but I did. Take a walk in the old
>
>
> abandoned train tunnel at waterfront station in Vancouver if
>
>
> you want to meet them. Most of those people are no longer
>
>
> people anymore, they would kill a person who tryed to save
>
>
> them, like a cat raised in an apartment, they would run from
>
>
> an open door to freedom. The royal engineers from old
> Westminster in England, brought these tunneling practices from
>
>
> their country over here, as well as their secret societies,
>
>
> and did their merlin black magic rituals with them.
> Some of those people in the tunnels, have been born and raised
>
>
> there, and they eat their dead. I just don't think social
>
>
> services can handle that kind of rehabilitation, I don't know
>
>
> just what we should do, it would appear if you follow the
>
>
> traces, back through the Freemasons and such...I bet even the
>
>
> Queen is blood fed...no wonder heaven won't help us. Somehow
>
>
> Dave pickton got the contract to demolish and excavate
>
>
> Woodlands Insane Assylum, fitting, he has experience
>
>
> excavating mass unmarked graves, who else would the city of
>
>
> New Westmonster call. Did you ever wonder where all of those
>
>
> in-patients from RiverView and Woodlands went?? They did't
>
>
> just release 500 insane people... did they? P and B Used
>
>
> Building Supplies, and P and B Salvage are just two of the
>
>
> companies owned by Dave and family. I heard another recent
>
>
> little tid bit from the Pickton's self proclaimed "good
>
>
> friend" of 25 years, West Baker, who runs the surplus store
>
>
> 623 front street, New Westminster, who has 200 institutional
>
>
> meal trays in his back store-room (for some reason), and an
>
>
> access tunnel to the underground cattacombs of New West, who
>
>
> has strong connections (sells them explosives such as live
>
>
> grenades) with local Nazi activists, (Dale you know who you
>
>
> are) who also lives commonlaw with Kathy Arcand, Dave
>
>
> Pickton's Ex-Goulfriend. West claimes that Willy Pickton owns
>
>
> all the land that the Picktons still hold, they just switched
>
>
> around the titles and holdings, and the fun loving Willy is
>
>
> ripping us tax payers off for a team of lawyers that he
>
>
> doesn't pay for, so when they all help him get away with it
>
>
> too, like they did when he went to trial in 1994 for stabbing
>
>
> a prostitute in the back several times, she managed the knife
>
>
> away from him and slit his throat in self defence, so he got
>
>
> off... So i'ts business as usual, Dave wont even speak to
>
>
> Willy, because he doesn't want to blow their cover. Dave goes
>
>
> to Sturges, where they make their plans for September... As
>
>
> for this going on elseware, I think all the world should check
>
>
> very carefully for strange things in the cattacombs and
>
>
> tunnels of their cities, you never know, there could be
>
>
> someones loved one there, waiting for the light of day.
> ****************
> check out the blood-drinker headed down into what could be
> one of North Korea's tunnels:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yldqb8
>
>
> this brief segment of street-level surveillance video of street-goers
> was
> shot in one of North Korea's occult power centers, all shot within
> close proximity of oneanother (area dominated by massive masonic
> obelisk monument) over the course of one morning.
> a bureaucratic office complex area infested with military police and
> what appear to be bureaucrats.
>
>
> (the person is pale, with a red scarf, and a white shirt stained with
> blood)
>
>
> ************
>
>
> for an idea of how crazy things can get watch The Clinton Chronicles:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3251077391435895140&q=clinton...
>
>
>
> ************
>
>
> Hells Angels
>
>
> The Hells Angels actually have a direct connection & origin with Skull
> n' Bones.
>
>
> It might seem bizarre but here it is:
>
>
> The Hells Angels in the early days were made up in large part of
> Vietnam War veterans, who brought back with them their penchant for
> opium trafficking. There was a huge illicit drug trade component to the
>
>
>
> Korean and Vietnamese wars. A good Hollywood film about this is the
> film Air America starring Mel Gibson (1990) about the CIA's private
> airline, and their drug smuggling operations in Cambodia (CIA sold
> drugs and guns in Laos during the Vietnam War to finance its secret
> operations in SouthEast asia)
> Anyway, there are some who say the Vietnam War was exactly what JFK
> thought it was and tried to prevent: an unecessary war that turned out
> to be nothing more than a gigantic arms dealer / drug lord scam foisted
>
>
>
> on the American people. The war meant tens of billions to American gun,
>
>
>
> armaments, chemical weapons, and munitions dealers, not to mention drug
>
>
>
> lords, and when JFK threatened to disband the CIA and cease their plans
>
>
>
> for the war in Vietnam, it was one of the reasons that the CIA
> assassinated JFK.
> watch JFKII on Google video for an excellent recap of why JFK was
> killed and who did it.
> Anyway, the Hells Angels was composed largely of 'retired' and
> drug-addicted Vietnam-era CIA operatives and cocaine-snorting war
> veterans.(burnouts) who had lived their entire careers /lives
> outside/above the law during their varous oversees and domestic
> adventures. They were not a very pleasant group of people . George Bush
>
>
>
> Senior and his CIA skull n' Bones clan assassinated JFK & launched the
> Vietnam War under Lyndon B. Johnson. The Hells Angels have always been
> a distribution conduit/network for illegal drugs imported by the CIA
> into NA. (Guess they were sick of letting the Italian mafiosos make all
>
>
>
> the money! so they let their fellow Bonesmen's friends and CIA running
> dogs take over a lot of the street traffic.
> So, now you know why the Angels always seem to be connected with this
> occult stuff. They are called 'Hells'' Angels for a reason, you know!
> To get up to speed on the whole JFK thing watch the following
> film online here: http://tinyurl.com/yfja2y JFK II
>
>
> and also rent Oliver Stone's 1991 film 'JFK', starring Kevin Costner as
>
>
>
> chief prosecutor .
>
>
> I have little doubt now that many of these 'serial murders' throughout
> the christian world, are actually ritual rapes and blood-drinkings and
> burnings carried out by Skull n' Bones -type cults, involving
> essentially the most dangerous and brazen and deadly people in the
> world: the Secret Services and Intellegencia at the pinnacle of the
> world's political and economic elite..
> It could be that these bodies are being discarded from flying planes in
>
>
>
> the same that these planes do regular drug drops.
>
>
> actually my background on the Hell's Angels was not quite accurate, in
> that it implied that the Hell's Angels formed only after the Vietnam
> War.
> The gang actually had its roots from the Korean war, because a big part
>
>
>
> of the CIA role in the wars in both Korea and Vietnam were about
> trading guns for drugs. Exporting guns to SouthEast asia, to BOTH
> sides, often in exchange for drugs to be brought back to the U.S. via
> Air America, the CIA's unofficial airforce. After all, how are you
> going to start a profitable war in Asia, selling guns to both sides, if
>
>
>
> a lot of people cannot even afford to buy your guns? The solution was
> to trade guns for drugs, to link up with the drug mafias in Asia. Fly
> tons of guns and ammunition into S.E. Asia, and on the same planes fly
> back tons of drugs , (cocaine and heroine and hashish you name it) into
>
>
>
> the United States. (usually the west coast, which is part of the reason
>
>
>
> LeftCoast Lotusland has its reputation as a druggie haven)
> The CIA needed a conduit for taking delivery of the drugs in the U.S. ,
>
>
>
> and this is where the Hells Angels had their beginnings.
> Even the corpses of returning Vietnam War soldiers were packed with
> heroine and cocaine.
>
>
> When the Vietnam War ended, the CIA started up their adventures in
> South America, mainly because that was their business, and the end of
> the Vietnam War meant they needed a new gig. Their business was and is
> to start wars in drug-producing regions, and trade armaments for drugs
> to be imported into the U.S. and other countries.
>
>
> I am sure there were more than a few incidents of bikers and mafia
> harrassing or ordering hits on Vietnam War protesters and peace
> activists.
>
>
> Anyway, the same pattern has continued to this day.
> The opium production of Afghanistan has tripled since the U.S. invaded
> in 2001. My guess is that the heroine trade from Florida and New
> Orleans, north to New York is flourishing,
> as that is a likely conduit point for the drugs coming out of the
> Middle East.
>
>
> *****************
> Ted Gunderson and the CIA's International Trafficking in Children
>
>
> Former head of FBI Ted Gunderson exposes a pedphile network run by the
> CIA for satanic purposes.
>
>
> watch online:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ujghu
> ****************
> "The Ted Gunderson Files"
>
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/tg/
>
>
> Haven't had time to go through all of them, but am linking directly to
> Gunderson's article on the abduction/disappearance of Johnny Gosch:
>
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/tg/goschcradiointerview19aug03.shtml
>
>
> and, still regarding Johnny Gosch with pics of the boys:
>
>
> from http://www.johnnygosch.com/
>
>
> **********
>
>
> am placing the Johnny Gosch abduction info here as a theory that
> relates to the sex industry and organized crime.
>
>
> The recent possibility/belief that journalist Jeff Gannon is Johnny
> Gosch, coincides with the suicide(??) of Hunter S. Thompson:
>
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml
>
>
>
> Gonzo journalist, Hunter Thompson wrote a book called "The Strange and
> Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs" which chronicled his
> living and riding with the HA in California. Paul Banacci (who admits
> to having originally abducted Johnny Gosch) maintains that Hunter
> Thompson was the camera man involved in a snuff movie made while
> Banacci was involved with the pedophile ring that Johnny Gosch was
> abducted into.
>
>
> am convinced that we have now found generally who is doing the
> majority of these things.
>
>
> Most of the prostitution surrounds 'procurement' activities. Sometimes
> it is young guys approached by older guys/richer guys "Get me some
> drugs. get me some girls."(the younger the pimp, the younger the girls
> he has access to , so some of the real young guys going missing are
> probably small time drug pushers and pimps who have done business with
> the wrong people and need to be shut up. Maybe somewhere along there
> someone decided that gang 'hits' on people should actually be
> profitable for the gang. Why just take someone out in a mob hit when
> that person can actually be sold and then killed.)
>
>
> These rich bastards get more sadistic. They are used to getting what
> they want, when they want, and doing whatever they lwant to whoever
> they want to do it to. So when they watch the porn, the VERY hard
> stuff, they want more, then they want it made to order, then they want
> the real thing. They ask around . They find a circle of people into it.
>
>
>
> Girls who will be hurt for money. From there, they find
> their way into the real monsters, the people who pay big money to kill
> the girl's babies, drink their blood. Some girls think its a good way
> to make drug money. Some have pimps or gangs push them into it, further
>
>
>
> and further and further along. They can get girsl who ran away from
> home at 13, spent a year in Jamaica, her pimps are moving her around.
> They go where the money is. If there is a Superbowl or an Olympics or a
>
>
>
> World Series or a big Stones gig, anything big and decadent that
> attracts money, they want to be there with the young young young girls.
>
>
>
> Thes eguys get connected. They collect girls like ranchers collect
> horses, keep small groups of fed and groomed women addicted to drugs
> working for them. The money in this is huge. These girls fry their
> brains on drugs, forget who they are, where they are, even which city
> or country they are in. They appear in porn flicks. They get tied and
> whipped, locked in boxes, hung from ropes . Then they go back to the
> hotel room.Then one night they get taken to someone who takes it all
> the way , and they get tortured to death or burned alive. And their
> owner gets a great big cash deposit into a new account that someone
> gave them a password for the previous week. $200,000.
> Welcome to the world of the ultra rich, the CIA , secret service, high
> society adventure boys. They believe in living life as though it is one
>
>
>
> big movie set.
> Someone real high up has a lot of power. Their group is expanding ,
> they manipulate things to make sure their choice for mayor or police
> chief gets in, and competitors get destroyed. The money flows.
> The bottom line is , this stuff is the the ultimate luxury. It takes
> money.
> Rich criminals. Rich period, are into this.
> This is the anything goes world of the ultra rich, the Bushes, theCIA
> adv Then these groups get addicted to it. they grow. They need more
> girls.
> Rich gays and pedophiles get into it. More and more people start
> disappearing. Young men, children.The Hells angels are all ex- CIA drug
>
>
>
> addicts and sadists who have lost it . The rich have private security,
> private investigators, many of them ex police officers,ex marines, ex
> CIA or CSIS or MI6 agents. They build up little private armies of these
>
>
>
> people, and these people have friends. Soldiers, bikers, dealers,
> pimps, mob contacts.
> They help out. They have contacts in the govt.,police dept., coroner's
> office. Investigations are shut down, people reassigned, people have
> little 'accidents', people 'commit suicide' at surprising times. The
> police start to give up.
> The killings become more frequent, and the cults less selective about
> their victims. Less careful, less demanding. So then just about anyone
> will do as a victim, anyone who won't go missed , whose disappearance
> won't be notable, who will not be protected, and who is considered
> generally useless.
>
>
> You want to find your killers, follow the money. Most of this is about
> drugs and occult and pimping and total depravity.
>
>
> Well, basically we have it all figured out now.
> I think we now know what is generally happening to the majority of
> these missing people. They 'disappear ' for a few days, then their
> bodies
> are found. The people taking them often work for various CIA
> operations, CIA-connected biker gangs
> and organized crime networks.
>
>
> Listen to this excellent internet radio show
> the Alex Jones show:
>
>
> (you have to realize that what he is saying is true. Most will not
> believe
> it because it is so incredible, but once you start checking it all out,
>
>
>
> everything, absolutley EVERYTHING, he is saying on his daily radio show
>
>
>
> is true. He has grown so popular that this show is broadcast on over
> 100 public AM and FM radio stations across the United States.)
>
>
> click here to listen:
> http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls
>
>
> Here is one more of Alex Jones videos:
>
>
> Order of Death
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hy7t9
>
>
> ***********
>
>
> Check out this information on the cult killings in Burgundy, France (a
> medievil village full of ancient castles, including some owned the
> Rothschild family)
>
>
> This case began with the 1991 discovery of imprisoned and tortured
> slaves, led to the discovery of several buried bodies, and involved
> emerging evidence of a network that had killed possibly hundreds of
> people.
> It also featured a massive coverup, a deluge of destroyed evidence,
> compromised judges, an investigator murdered. Sound familiar?)
>
>
> http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/auxerre/index.html
>
>
>
> Joanna
>
>
> On the morning of May 17, 1990, Patrice Bardot, an unemployed dustman,
> traveled from his home in the French village of Monteau to the nearby
> Yonne River for a day of fishing. Not long after he arrived he noticed
> something floating in the water. Initially, he believed it was a
> bobbing barrel, but as he drew nearer he was shocked to realize it was
> a nude human body.
>
>
> Bardot immediately flagged down a woman jogging on a nearby path and
> alerted her of the gruesome find. The jogger then ran toward a caf?,
> where the police were called. The authorities soon arrived and
> conducted what would later be considered a terribly bungled
> investigation.
>
>
> The police cornered off a small section of land close to where the body
>
>
>
> was found and began searching for clues. However, investigators ignored
>
>
>
> a large portion of the surrounding area, most of which had been
> trampled by police, emergency personnel, onlookers and vehicles.
> According to an Expatica.com article by Graham Tearse, the secured area
>
>
>
> was "released to the public just several hours later" and the following
>
>
>
> day it was further trampled by children on a field trip. Had there been
>
>
>
> any evidence, it was likely lost from the contamination of the crime
> scene.
>
>
> The body was withdrawn from the river and taken to a nearby hospital
> for identification and autopsy. The woman was identified as 20-year-old
>
>
>
> Joanna Parrish, who was from Gloucestershire, England. Joanna was
> enrolled in a modern languages work/study program at Leeds University
> and took a position as an assistant English teacher at a secondary
> school in the nearby town of Auxerre. She was working on a bachelor's
> degree in modern languages at Leeds University. At the time of her
> death she was only one week away from completing her posting.
>
>
> An autopsy revealed that Joanna had been drugged, tied up, raped,
> beaten and strangled before being dumped into the river. It was
> suspected that her body had been in the water only several hours prior
> to it being found. Even though the body was discarded in broad
> daylight, police were unable to find any witnesses. They believed that
> whoever murdered Joanna was probably familiar with the area and could
> have even resided in the immediate vicinity. Yet, police were unable to
>
>
>
> produce any suspects.
>
>
> According to Tearse, Joanna had a friend named Janet visiting from
> Canada around the time of her death. Janet claimed that Joanna placed
> an advertisement in a local newspaper offering English lessons. She
> planned to use the money to fund a holiday trip with her fianc?e.
>
>
> Investigators learned that a local man responded to Joanna's ad by
> phone and was interested in hiring her to teach his teenage son. They
> made arrangements to meet at 7 p.m. on May 16 at the town's square in
> Auxerre. Tearse suggested that on that day, Janet joined Joanna on her
> trip into town and they walked around for a while before they separated
>
>
>
> at about 6:30 pm.
>
>
> Joanna went to meet the man at the town square. It was the last time
> Janet ever saw her again. Tearse said that Joanna never told Janet the
> name of the man she was planning to meet.
>
>
> Several weeks after her body was discovered, Joanna was buried in
> Gloucestershire. Her parents, Roger and Pauline, went to Auxerre and
> hired a lawyer to assist them in their gaining access to information
> concerning the case from the magistrate and the police detectives. They
>
>
>
> wanted to closely follow the investigation, hoping that it would
> eventually lead to the apprehension of their daughter's murderer. Their
>
>
>
> expectations were quickly shattered when they realized how inadequately
>
>
>
> the case was being handled.
>
>
> At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder
>
>
>
> was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and
>
>
>
> disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly
> mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that
> high-level officials were trying to cover-up the fact that Burgundy had
>
>
>
> an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was
> something that could not be hidden for long.
>
>
> Negligence
>
>
> The investigation into Joanna's death was bungled from the beginning.
> The crime scene was turned into a forensic disaster. Moreover, much of
> the information gathered during the investigation was kept from
> Joanna's family, who desperately tried to learn what advances were
> being made in the case.
>
>
> Tearse suggested that during a British inquest into Joanna's murder,
> critical evidence was discovered that was ignored or overlooked by
> French coroners. He claimed that a second autopsy, conducted by the
> British, revealed several bite marks on Joanna's body. From a forensic
> standpoint, bite marks are vital clues that can reveal information
> about the killer because teeth, bite and jaw formations are
> individually unique and can be easily matched. The revelation shocked
> Joanna's parents who couldn't comprehend how something so obvious and
> important could have gone unnoticed.
>
>
> During the autopsy, medical examiners were able to obtain sperm
> samples. It took two years for the samples to be analyzed, but the
> results led to a genetic print. The DNA evidence was one of the biggest
>
>
>
> clues in the investigation and Roger and Pauline hoped that it would
> lead investigators to the killer. However, they were not so fortunate.
>
>
> Tearse said, "investigators refused to call for voluntary DNA tests of
> the local male population and continued to refuse to make a media
> appeal for witnesses." It was another blow to the investigation and a
> major disappointment for Roger and Pauline. Frustrated at the
> incompetence of police, Joanna's family decided to take measures into
> their own hands.
>
>
> They family offered a reward for information into Joanna's death and
> handed out leaflets in and around Auxerre and Mon?teau. They even
> appealed to the British government for assistance. Even though they
> were unsuccessful in getting help from the British government they did
> manage to get some interesting responses to their leaflets.
>
>
> Several people called offering some information directly concerning
> Joanna's death. Roger and Pauline eagerly presented the new leads to
> the French authorities. However, for some unknown reason the
> investigators failed to pursue the tips.
>
>
> Isabelle Laville, victim
> Isabelle Laville, victim
> The family members of other murdered victims in Burgundy responded to
> the leaflets. Roger and Pauline learned that three other young women,
> Isabelle Laville, 17, Danielle Bernard, 39, Sylvie Baton, 24, were
> murdered near or in Auxerre between 1987 and 1990. Their families were
> angered because they also felt as if the investigators were mishandling
>
>
>
> the cases of their deceased loved ones.
>
>
> Eventually, Roger and Pauline discovered that there were approximately
> 13 more unsolved murders and disappearances of women in the Auxerre
> area over the last 30 years. Interestingly, investigators working on
> Joanna's case never told them about the spate of murders, two of which
> occurred within months of their daughter's death.
>
>
> Roger and Pauline tried to obtain Joanna's case files so they could
> bring in outside help to assist in the investigation. However,
> investigators continued to deny them access to the documents. Even
> though it seemed as if they were battling a lost cause, they refused to
>
>
>
> give up in their search for evidence.
>
>
> Among the 17 girls missing or found murdered were seven pupils from the
>
>
>
> Medical-Educational Institute, a special needs school for handicapped
> young women in Auxerre. The girls, 16 to 22 years old, were accounted
> for in December 2000, when a former bus driver of the school made a
> startling confession. Emile Louis, 68, admitted to police that he had
> sex with the seven pupils and then murdered them sometime between 1977
> and 1979.
>
>
> When the girls first began to disappear, the police interviewed Louis
> because he was known to have a history of sex offenses. However, they
> did not pursue him for long and eventually he was disregarded as a
> potential suspect. Eventually, the cases were dropped and the girls
> were listed as runaways.
>
>
> Emile Louis, mugshot
> Emile Louis, mugshot
> Louis continued to drive female pupils to and from school. It is also
> believed that he continued to rape and kill them indiscriminately. He
> would not be looked at as a suspect for almost another two decades.
>
>
> Hugh Schofield's article Mystery of France's Missing Girls suggested
> that there were similarities between many of the cases. He quoted
> Corinne Herrmann, a French lawyer and author of the book The
> Disappeared of the Yonne, stating that the girls were either mentally
> handicapped, "or like Joanna far from home." Moreover, according to
> Stuart Jeffries 2000 article for The Observer, witnesses were able to
> place Louis near the spots where many of the victims were last seen.
>
>
> Scene where bodies found
> Scene where bodies found
> Louis was caught almost two decades later when his daughter found items
>
>
>
> in his house belonging to several of the victims. During his
> confession, Louis told authorities that he buried the girls near the
> Yonne River. Only the skeletal remains of two girls were ever
> recovered.
>
>
> Not long after his admission of guilt, Louis changed his story. He
> claimed that he was pressured into giving false testimony and that he
> actually didn't commit the murders. In a January 2002 article in The
> Guardian by Jon Henley, Louis insisted that "the girls were routinely
> abused and finally abducted and killed by a nebulous ring of men 'of
> some standing, locally and in the region." Not surprisingly, Louis'
> story was met with skepticism by local investigators.
>
>
> Louis could not be charged with the murders anyway because under French
>
>
>
> law it was considered unlawful to convict anyone of a murder 10 years
> after a crime was committed. According to Jeffries, Louis was instead
> "convicted for kidnapping, for which there is no statue of
> limitations." The authorities believed Louis could have been involved
> in some of the other murder cases, yet there was not enough evidence to
>
>
>
> convict him.
>
>
> One thing was for certain: Louis could not have been directly
> responsible for Joanna's death. At the time of her murder, he was
> serving a prison sentence for sexually assaulting a minor.
> Nevertheless, Schofield suggested that a private investigation
> conducted for 13 years by French police agent Christian Jambert, 56,
> "clearly established that Louis was linked to all the women." It was
> believed that he was affiliated with a sex ring operation that
> prostituted, abused and even murdered many girls in the region,
> possibly including Joanna.
>
>
> Christian Jambert, victim
> Christian Jambert, victim
> Initially the authorities ignored Jambert's theories, but an incident
> in 1984 led them to reconsider the idea that there was indeed a sex
> ring in the area. That January, a 19-year-old girl was found wandering
> the streets of Auxerre in a confused state. When the police picked her
> up and questioned her she claimed that she was held captive in the
> basement of a nearby house, where she was sexually abused and tortured.
>
>
>
> The girl's testimony led the police to the home of Claude and Monique
> Dunand, known friends of Emile Louis. Stuart said that when they
> searched the house, they found another girl in the cellar, "naked and
> suspended from a ladder by her wrists." He further claimed that for
> approximately 15 years, local handicapped girls were lured to the
> house, locked up, fed dog food and repeatedly raped and tortured by
> invited guests. However, there was no indication that any of the girls
> were murdered.
>
>
> Claude Dunand was eventually convicted of kidnapping and given a life
> sentence in 1991. His wife Monique received two years for accessory to
> the crimes. According to Andrew Alderson and Kim Willsher's article 'I
> Want Justice for Joanna,' Yonne crime reporter Ludovic Berger stated,
> "Claude Dunand has always said that politicians, industrialists and
> magistrates were involved but he has refused to name them." The article
>
>
>
> further suggested that a list of at least 50 clients "rumored to
> include several French 'notables' who paid to torture and abuse"
> captive girls was discovered by police and handed over to the Auxerre
> Courthouse. However, the list mysteriously disappeared from a courtroom
>
>
>
> and has never been found.
>
>
> It was not the only document that went missing. In fact, there were
> more than 100 murder and missing person case files from between 1958
> and 1982 that vanished from the courthouse. Moreover, the court ledger
> documenting the investigations also vanished. It became increasingly
> clear that someone was either trying to cover up the crimes or the
> Auxerre Courthouse had a serious management problem.
>
>
> Christian Jambert was almost certain he knew who was behind Burgundy's
> rash of murders and missing person cases, and he was convinced that
> Louis was one of the primary culprits. However, he also believed that
> Louis was only one of many involved in the crimes. Jambert kept
> meticulous notes and diaries concerning the cases, along with the
> evidence he collected over the years. In 1997, he made preparations to
> present his findings during a new inquiry. Yet, he never got the chance
>
>
>
> to reveal what he worked so hard to acquire.
>
>
> In August of that year, just several days before the inquiries were
> scheduled to begin, Jambert was found dead in the basement of his
> Auxerre home. An autopsy revealed that he died from a single gunshot
> wound to the head. Medical investigators claimed that Jambert had a
> history of depression. It was believed that his poor mental state
> prompted him to end his life. His death was listed as a suicide.
>
>
> By the late 1990s, the mounting scandal in Auxerre gained international
>
>
>
> attention. People were shocked by the negligence exhibited in the
> investigations and the fact that more than 100 files, mostly of missing
>
>
>
> women, had gone missing from Auxerre's Courthouse. According to Harry
> de Quetteville's January 2002 article in The Telegraph, the scandal was
>
>
>
> "taken so seriously in Paris that Marylise Lebranchu, the French
> justice minister, ordered a series of internal investigations."
> Joanna's murder case was one of those selected for re-examination and
> it was further linked with the inquiry into the seven girls Louis once
> claimed to have murdered.
>
>
> Not surprisingly, Joanna's parents welcomed the decision of a new
> inquiry. They waited more than a decade for her investigation to be
> reopened. BBC News Online stated that Roger, "was hopeful there would
> be progress in the investigation and the potential capture of the
> killer."
>
>
> Investigators working on the case quickly realized that there was a
> possibility someone tampered with Joanna's murder file. Witness
> statements, which were obtained at the time of her murder, were missing
>
>
>
> from her dossier. Moreover, important DNA evidence taken during the
> autopsy also disappeared from the file for more than a decade before it
>
>
>
> was found again.
>
>
> During the investigation, it was suggested that Joanne and many of the
> other girls that were murdered or missing were likely the victims of an
>
>
>
> organized sex gang operating around Auxerre. Yet, because so many of
> the facts were missing, there was not enough evidence available to
> convict anyone.
>
>
> The only exception was the case of the seven missing girls Louis
> initially claimed to have murdered before retracting his confession.
> Investigators continued to believe he was involved in their
> disappearances and murders. A re-examination of his case was ordered,
> with the hope of uncovering more evidence linking Louis or anyone else
> to the girls.
>
>
> Seven missing girls, victims
>
>
> Many in the community believed that the murder cases were deliberately
> ignored and the files stolen or destroyed because they implicated
> high-level officials. Investigators re-examining the cases determined
> that it was more likely that gross negligence on behalf of local
> magistrates was to blame for the mishandling of the cases. In all
> likelihood, it was probably a combination of both theories that
> prevented anyone from being apprehended for the crimes.
>
>
> In March 2002, four magistrates from Burgundy faced accusations of
> gross negligence in the cases of missing and murdered women in their
> region. The judges included former chief prosecutors Rene Meyer and
> Jacques Cazals and former deputy prosecutors Daniel Stilinovic and
> Bertrand Daillie. The men were ordered to appear before a panel of six
> senior judges, who would review the cases over a three-day period.
>
>
> According to a 2002 article by Susan Bell in The Scotsman, accused
> magistrate Stilinovic admitted that "there were people who allowed
> information to be stifled." He was further quoted saying "magistrates
> tampered with procedures on behalf of people they wanted to protect. It
>
>
>
> is a conspiracy at the very top." However, he maintained his innocence,
>
>
>
> suggesting that he did not stifle any of the investigations. His peers
> thought otherwise.
>
>
> The panel returned a verdict in late March and found Stilinovic guilty
> of negligence. He received the severest penalty and was dismissed from
> his position. Cazals was also found guilty and transferred from his
> prestigious post in Paris. Meyer, who was retired at the time of the
> inquiry, was stripped of his honorary title after he too was found
> guilty. Daillie received no punishment.
>
>
> New Evidence
>
>
> In August 2002, investigators found new clues during their inquiry into
>
>
>
> Joanna's murder. They revealed that recently recovered DNA evidence
> pointed to two men being involved in the rape and murder of Joanna. The
>
>
>
> BBC News further stated in their article "Fresh Clues in Joanna Murder
> Hunt" that new documents were found which indicated that police
> arrested a suspect in connection with Joanna's murder early in the
> investigation. Yet, he was released because of lack of evidence.
>
>
> Investigators are continuing to follow up on the new leads, hoping that
>
>
>
> it might result in the arrest of her killers. However, a great deal of
> time has passed since her death and the chances of solving the crime
> have significantly decreased over the years. Regardless, Joanna's
> family and law enforcement officials re-examining the case have not
> given up hope.
>
>
> In April 2004, more new evidence arose concerning the suicide of
> Jambert. According to Alderson and Willsher's article, Corinne Herrmann
>
>
>
> received access to Jambert's files while she was conducting research
> into the case of the Burgundy's missing and murdered girls. She became
> suspicious of his death and believed he might have been murdered. She
> just had to prove her theory.
>
>
> Herrmann, author of Les Disparues D'Auxerre, convinced Jambert's
> children to exhume their father's body so that another autopsy could be
>
>
>
> conducted. After several days of examining the remains, the medical
> investigators made a startling discovery. Alderson and Willsher claimed
>
>
>
> that Jambert had been shot not once, but twice in the head making it
> almost impossible for him to have committed suicide.
>
>
> Herrmann's suspicions were proven correct and she persuaded area
> magistrates to begin a murder inquiry. It was believed that his murder
> was directly linked with the investigation on which he was working.
> Even though investigators interviewed several possible suspects, no one
>
>
>
> has yet been convicted for the crime.
>
>
> Jambert's case, like Joanna's, is being pursued with more vigor than
> ever before. Moreover, investigators continue to review the Louis case.
>
>
>
> They are hoping to put an end to the disappearances and murders that
> have plagued Burgundy for so many years. Moreover, they hope to restore
>
>
>
> the reputation of the beautiful, medieval town that has attracted
> visitors from around the world for centuries.
>
>
> Emile Louis Trial
>
>
> On November 2, 2004, Emile Louis' murder trial finally began in
> Auxerre, France despite repeated attempts to throw out the case.
> According to a November 3, 2004 AP Worldstream article, Louis' lawyers
> requested that the case be delayed until after the European Court of
> Human Rights ruled "on their bid to dismiss the case" because they
> believed "the crimes took place too long ago for the case to be legally
>
>
>
> valid." However, the court rejected the defense request and ordered the
>
>
>
> resumption of Louis' trial.
>
>
> The 70-year-old retired bus driver, convicted of the murders of seven
> mentally handicapped women, continued to deny he was responsible for
> the murders even though he confessed to them years earlier. It is hoped
>
>
>
> that the trial will finally reveal the truth as to how the girls died.
> The trial is expected to last four weeks. If convicted, Louis could
> face life imprisonment.
>
>
> The case is considered one of France's most controversial scandals
> because the investigation was bungled and many of the case files
> dealing with the girls' disappearances, as well as other cases of
> murdered and missing women went missing from the Auxerre Courthouse. It
>
>
>
> is believed that the files were destroyed in order to cover up a
> high-level sex ring, which allegedly involved some prominent French
> officials.
>
>
> Auxerre Courthouse
>
>
> AP Worldstream reported that, "more than 90 witnesses including
> magistrates, social workers, police officers and family members of the
> victims are to testify at the trial." Many other family members of the
> victims are expected to fill the courthouse, in the hopes of seeing
> Louis brought to justice after escaping prosecution for the murders for
>
>
>
> approximately twenty-five years. The father of British student Joanna
> Parrish, who was murdered in Auxerre in 1990, is also expected to be in
>
>
>
> attendance.
>
>
> Since the onset of the trial there has been an upsurge of media and
> public interest, which has led to security concerns. Moreover, there is
>
>
>
> concern for Louis' personal safety and the authorities want to prevent
> the possibility of someone taking justice into their own hands. In
> response, safety measures were taken to secure the perimeter around the
>
>
>
> courthouse, Mie Kohiyama reported for Agence France-Presse. There is no
>
>
>
> doubt that Louis is considered by many to be one of France's most
> reviled citizens.
>
>
> Rachael Bell
>
>
> Rachael Bell has completed master's degrees in clinical and health
> psychology and is currently working on her PhD in the field of
> psychology. On a part-time basis, she instructs bachelor and master's
> level courses in psychology. She lives in Europe with her husband and
> two children.
Re: Cannonball hole angers kook
Author: U. Znet Frrroup
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 22:26
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"gornk" <causewayclubhouse@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> People keep changing the subject from the original topic to
> a discussion on something completely different, usually childish
> name-calling.
I think that's because you're a poopy head, but I'm
not sure. It may be because you have cooties.
> They do not want the TOPIC discussed.
They (tint) think you're a kook, that's why there's a
vast anti-kook conspeeeeeracy (tinvakc) that's changing
your subject lines more often than you change your own
socks.
HTH. FOAD. HAND. YAAK.
-- UZF
More kook ranting:
The information has to keep flowing , so read on:
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quote:
'I have been reading along, watching the videos, and it is very
interesting, especially, about informants being used, while they are on
a killing spree.There are indeed some nasty things being done in high
places.
I am uncertain, maybe because I grew up in Montreal, Angel Territory. I
know the gangs have had rival fights, etc, over turf, drugs.
It bothers me also, pedophiles, and the HA, getting along. So many are
married with kids, or have sisters, etc..
A lot is spoken of happenings in the USA, I wonder if you have any info
on the hub, or triangle, in the Province of BC,as this lady wrote, that
she worked with victims from there. Also, have you heard of the Process
Church cult? . I do believe in cults, and I fear this is widespread,
and may end up reaching into the states.
PS: Say there has been a long time cult going on, then they would
probably take something from the victim, to the people they obey., to
show it was done. It is very confusing to say the least
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Quote:
'I have not had time to visit all these links and watch all the videos,
but I was googling cult activity and Satanism in BC. Came up with an
article about a 30+ year member of the VPD who used to investigate
child abuse cases ... Detective Constable Charles Ennis, aka Kerr
Cuhulain who is also head honcho of an organization called Officers of
Avalon (policeman, firefighters, EMTs, etc. of Wicca and the Pagan
religion). He notes that Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist who worked
out of Chilliwack General Hospital, had some patients who committed
suicide, and the article indicates that it was possibly related to
Gutowski's treatment received while undergoing therapy due to Satanic
cult involvement. I can't help but wonder if the suicides might just be
more related to the cult activity/involvement rather than Dr.
Gutowski's treatment??
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:1kctPz0ktxEJ:www.witchvox.com/va/...
I have read a couple of the Ennis/Cuhulain articles and note that he
appears as bigoted towards Christians as he claims Christians are
towards Wicca. He has authored The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca,
Wiccan Warrior and Full Contact Magick: A Book of Shadows for the
Wiccan Warrior, and Witch Hunts: Out of the Broom Closet (Spiral
Publishing).
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Fantastic Quigley. This is nearly THE most important find so far.
Kerr Cuhulain is based in Surrey, B.C. He has started an occult police
officers association called Officers of Avalon.
Piggy Palace (and Robert Pictons farm) is very near Surrey, B.C. , just
N.E.
of Surrey in Port Coquitlam. Ironically, Cuhulain was a child abuse
investigator
for the Vancouver Police Dept.
This also fits the pattern of the cult putting their own people in key
positions of authority re: police, child abuse, missing persons.
(remember disgraced teen fondler, Congressman Mark Foley was chairman
of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
Some info on the Picton pig farm cult:
Quote:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/robert_pickton/6...
Late in 1998, task force detectives got their best lead yet from
37-year-old Bill Hiscox. Widowed two years earlier, Hiscox had turned
to drugs and alcohol after his wife died, rescued from the downhill
slide when his foster sister found him a job at P&B Salvage in Surrey,
southeast of Vancouver. The proprietors were Robert William "Willie"
Pickton and his brother David, of Port Coquitlam. Hiscox's helpful
relative was Robert Pickton's "off-and-on" girlfriend in 1997, and
Hiscox picked up his paychecks at the brothers' Port Coquitlam pig
farm, described by Hiscox as "a creepy-looking place" patrolled by a
vicious 600-pound boar. "I never saw a pig like that, who would chase
you and bite at you," he told police. "It was running out with the dogs
around the property."
Robert William (Willie) Pickton
Hiscox had grown concerned about the Picktons after reading newspaper
reports on Vancouver's missing women. Robert Pickton was "a pretty
quiet guy, hard to strike up a conversation with, but I don't think he
had much use for men." Pickton drove a converted bus with deeply tinted
windows, Hiscox told authorities. "It was Willie's pride and joy," he
said, "and he wouldn't part with it for anything. Willie used it a
lot." The brothers also ran a supposed charity, the Piggy Palace Good
Times Society, registered with the Canadian government in 1996 as a
non-profit society intended to "organize, co-ordinate, manage and
operate special events, functions, dances, shows and exhibitions on
behalf of service organizations, sports organizations and other worthy
groups." According to Hiscox, the "special events" convened at Piggy
Palace--a converted building at the hog farm--were drunken raves that
featured "entertainment" by an ever-changing cast of Downtown Eastside
prostitutes.
David Francis Pickton
Police were already familiar with the Pickton brothers. David Francis
Pickton had been convicted of sexual assault in 1992, fined $1,000 and
given 30 days' probation. His victim in that case told police Pickton
had attacker her in his trailer, at the pig farm, but she managed to
escape when a third party came in and distracted him. Port Coquitlam
authorities sought an order to destroy one of David's dogs in April
1998, under the Livestock Protection Act, but the proceedings were
later dismissed without explanation. Pickton had also been sued three
times for damages, resulting from traffic accidents in 1988 and 1991,
settling all three claims out of court.
Soon after Piggy Palace opened, the Pickton brothers and their sister,
Linda Louise Wright, found themselves in court again, sued by Port
Coquitlam officials for allegedly violating city zoning ordinances.
According to the complaint, their property was zoned for agricultural
use, but they had "altered a large farm building on the land for the
purpose of holding dances, concerts and other recreations" that
sometimes drew as many as 1,800 persons. Following a New Year's Eve
party on December 31, 1998, the Picktons were slapped with an
injunction banning future parties, the court order noting that police
were henceforth "authorized to arrest and remove any person" attending
public events at the farm. The "society" finally lost its nonprofit
status in January 2000, for failure to provide mandatory financial
statements.
Other charges filed against Robert Pickton were more serious. In March
1997 he was charged with the attempted murder of a drug-addicted
prostitute, Wendy Lynn Eistetter, whom he stabbed several times in a
wild melee at the pig farm. Eistetter told police that Pickton
handcuffed and attacked her on March 23, but that she escaped after
disarming him and stabbing him with his own knife. A motorist found
Eistetter beside the highway at 1:45 a.m. and took her to the nearest
emergency room, while Pickton sought treatment for a single stab wound
at Eagle Ridge Hospital. He was released on $2,000 bond, but the charge
was later dismissed without explanation in January 1998.
The stabbing had crystallized Bill Hiscox's suspicion about Robert
Pickton, whom he called "quite a strange character." Aside from the
assault, Hiscox told police, there were "all the girls that are going
missing, and all the purses and Ids that are out there in his trailer
and stuff." Pickton, Hiscox told detectives, "frequents the downtown
area all the time, for girls."
Police recorded Hiscox's statement and a detective accompanied him to
the pig farm, afterward vowing "to push the higher-ups, all the way to
the top, to investigate." Subsequent press reports indicate that the
farm was searched three times, apparently without result. The brothers
would remain on file, "persons of interest" to the inquiry, but no
surveillance would be mounted on the farm.
Back in Vancouver, meanwhile, the list of missing women grew longer,
with no end in sight.
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I checked Google Maps for an aerial view of the general area where
Piggy Palace and the Picton pig farm is located:
It is in Port Coquitlam, which is just NorthEast of Surrey, B.C. where
our Officers of Avalon cult friends are headquartered.
Notice the big nearby rail yard. Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
inland river /rail port, from what I can tell the biggest such port in
the Vancouver area.
This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
disappearing onto ships.
If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
that might be useful.
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Check this out: the Hells Angels entire Vancouver chapter is also
located
in Port Coquitlam. So we have Officers of Avalon (police), the Pickton
pig cult,
and the Hells Angels all headquartered in the same area immediatelly
surrounding
this massive rail port:
http://tinyurl.com/srtaa
Quote:
Neal Hall, VANCOUVER SUN
Published: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
A high-profile member of the Vancouver Hells Angels says people have
been rude to him and he has experienced "fear and loathing" from the
public at supermarkets, restaurants and other places after an Ontario
court ruling last year that found the Hells Angels is a criminal
organization, a Vancouver judge was told Monday.
In an affidavit filed in B.C. Supreme Court, Rickey Ciarniello, 61, the
president of the Vancouver chapter, who has been a member of the Hells
Angels since 1983, says he has always proudly worn his Hells Angels
insignia, known as colours, but since the Ontario ruling he has
experienced "harassment, stigma and ostracism that membership would now
seem to entail."
He was wearing a black jacket in court Monday that said in small
letters on the front: Vancouver Hells Angels.
His affidavit, obtained by The Vancouver Sun, claims he is a
law-abiding Hells Angels member who is "not responsible for the
criminal acts that have, at times, been committed by some of its
members."
His affidavit recalled that after the Ontario ruling, Ciarniello went
to a restaurant called Joey Tomatoes wearing his colours and overheard
a couple asking to be moved because they didn't want to sit next to a
criminal.
"Following that I was quite uncomfortable and decided to leave the
restaurant," said the affidavit.
"I have noticed a marked difference in the way that people respond to
me when I am wearing my colours," Ciarniello said in his affidavit.
"The mood has gone from friendly and casual curiosity to fear, loathing
and avoidance such that I am now made to feel uncomfortable wearing the
HAMC [Hells Angels Motorcycle Club] insignia."
Since the Ontario judgment, his affidavit says, staff members at the
local Safeway near his PORT COQUITLAM home -- where he has purchased
groceries for 20 years -- are not as friendly as they used to be, and
he's received similar treatment at a Shell gas station.
His affidavit also states that John Bryce, president of the East End
chapter of the Hells Angels, was refused as a customer of the Bank of
Nova Scotia, after two decades of business with it, after the Ontario
ruling.
And Ciarniello says while he regularly spoke to the media on behalf of
the Hells Angels in B.C. and nationally, he has generally refrained
from speaking out to the same extent after the ruling because he is
concerned that "I may be charged with participating in the activities
of a criminal organization...."
He said the effect of the Ontario ruling "is to declare me a member of
a criminal organization notwithstanding that I have never engaged in
the promotion of criminal conduct."
His affidavit was filed as part of his constitutional challenge of all
the sections of the Criminal Code making it illegal to participate,
direct or instruct people for the benefit of a criminal organization.
He claims the Ontario Superior Court ruling in the case known as
Lindsay and Bonner has caused a stigma to belonging to the Hells Angels
in B.C., which infringes his section seven rights of life, liberty and
security of person.
n...@png.canwest.com
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http://www.thenownews.com/issues05/112105/news/112105nn2.html
Quote:
Hells Angels members get four years
By Jennifer Saltman - Staff Reporter
Two senior members of the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels - which
is based in Coquitlam - were each sentenced in B.C. Supreme Court
Monday to four years in jail for drug trafficking.
Surrey resident Norman Edward Krogstad, 58, who police say is the
president of the Vancouver chapter, and 55-year-old Langley resident
Cedric Baxter Smith, a senior member of the chapter, had pleaded guilty
earlier to 11 counts of cocaine trafficking.
The two were sentenced by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm for
their role in trafficking almost 10 kilograms of cocaine bought by a
former biker who was working as an undercover police agent.
Smith was also fined $100,000 for his role in the trafficking
operation, during which the police agent bought nine kilograms and 24
ounces of cocaine between June 2003 and September 2004.
When police raided Smith's home, they seized $73,000 in cash - and Dohm
ordered Smith to pay $27,500 on top of that to satisfy payment of the
fine.
Krogstad and Smith were among 10 men arrested on the Lower Mainland and
in Prince George in January after a 20-month-long joint police
investigation.
The investigation resulted in firearm and drug-trafficking charges
against six members and associates of the Prince George Renegades
motorcycle club and four members and associates of the Hells Angels'
Vancouver chapter.
Undercover police officers bought large quantities of drugs, stolen
property and illegal guns were purchased from various members of
Vancouver- and Prince George-based Hells Angels, and their associates.
In Vancouver and Prince George, investigators seized more than
$100,000, 25 pounds of marijuana, 14 kilograms of cocaine and
restricted and prohibited weapons.
The Angels' COQUITLAM clubhouse was not searched during the operation.
The Vancouver chapter has approximately 16 members
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From:
Quote:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=16079
"A special team investigating the cases," reported the New York Times
on Saturday, November 23, 2002, "arrived and found body parts in a
freezer, as well as purses and other personal effects later linked to
the missing.... Not one body has been found intact, and a wood chipper
and Mr. Pickton's pigs are believed to have devoured much of the
evidence."
The Scene of the Crimes
"There are no whole bodies at the pig farm," says Elaine Allan, a
former coordinator for a DES drop-in center for sex workers. While
employed there in the late '90s, she worked with almost 20 of the women
who are believed to have been murdered by Robert Pickton, dismembered,
and fed to his pigs. In her late 30s with medium-length hair, an
intelligent air, and attentive eyes, Allan's voice expresses an almost
aching sensitivity for the victims.
"I can't tell you exactly what they have found on the farm because of
the ban on that information. You know about the ban?" I say that I do,
but the local papers have reported about the feet, teeth, and bones.
Everyone knows about the body parts, the pigs, the wood chipper, the
freezers. Indeed, the animal rights organization PETA had planned to
place a large ad in the Province describing the murders in horrifying
detail. ("They were drugged and dragged across the room," the PETA ad
began. "Their struggles and cries went unanswered.... [b]They were
slaughtered and their heads were sawed off.... Their body parts were
refrigerated.... And their bones discarded. [/b]It's Still Going On.
Please remember that this scenario is a reality for more than 640
million sensitive individuals who lose their lives every year in this
country for nothing more than the taste of their 'meat.'")
What detail could Allan possibly tell me that wasn't already known? Was
there more than dismembered women in the meat freezer, in the teeth of
the wood chipper, or the guts of the pigs? Were there worse details,
more horrifying details?
"Yes," she says. "It's worse than you can imagine."
Now for the truly sickening part, if this were not bad enough
I followed the street address provided in the above news article, the
street address for the pig farm: 953 Dominion Avenue (Dominion
Triangle)
on Google Maps, and I found that the swatch of farmland actually
borders the massive rail yard and inland sea port. The above article
also mentions that women from Seattle started disappearing at the same
time, and my guess is that this is not the only other city involved.
Now it starts to get truly strange:
I did a Google on the most famous Hells Angel in history
Sonny Barger
During the course of my search I came upon a biker-connected band
known as Spiralarms.
The bass player for Spiralarms, known as 'Spiralbass' (has a Myspace
page)
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&frie...
and on his page I found this:
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/MANTIS11/enemy/gutsyjm3io9.gif
(edited by Hazel, sorry TD just too graphic for me, and if too graphic
for me I am sure its too graphic for others. However, I left the link
intact, if anyone wants to see this image, cut and paste away. Thanx)
I got curious about this guy , and found that he is from Benicia,
California.
I did a Google Earth on Benicia, California.
Benicia is literally just across the river from Mount Diablo, on the
north side , and not far geographically from Bohemian Grove (approx. 70
miles SE). It is another port city, this time for Concord Naval Weapons
Base.
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove_maps.h...
Now back to our friend Kerr Kuhulain (detective constable Charles
Ennis):
Kuhulain and his books are prominent on this site:
http://spiralpublishinginc.com/osCommerce/
this is Kuhulain's publisher : Spiral Publishing.
Spiral Arms
Spiral Publishing
The goddess depicted above is Kali
>From http://tinyurl.com/yxjms2
"Cannibalism (more precisely, anthropophagy) is an age-old tradition
that, judging by a constant stream of flabbergasted news reports, is
far from extinct. Much-debated indications exist that our Neanderthal,
Proto-Neolithic, and Neolithic (Stone Age) predecessors were cannibals.
Similarly contested claims were made with regards to the 12th century
advanced Anasazi culture in the southwestern United States and the
Minoans in Crete (today's Greece)."
The Britannica Encyclopedia (2005 edition) recounts how the "Binderwurs
of central India ate their sick and aged in the belief that the act was
pleasing to their goddess, Kali." Cannibalism may also have been common
among followers of the Shaktism cults in India.
Now , are not many of the ships into Port Coquitlam from India?
Is Kerr Kuhulain himself not from India? Remember, if you look at
the Pickton farm on google earth, it right beside both an asian
shipping port and a massive rail yard . This is a colossal scale rail
yard. This is valuable land, and lots of it.
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http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/10/27/66369.html
Indian cannibal sect eats human corpses, believing it give them
supernatural powers
Quote:
16:42 2005-10-27
A new Indian documentary seeks to shed light on a secretive sect of
Hindu ascetics who allegedly eat human corpses, believing it will make
them ageless and give them supernatural powers.
The 10-minute movie "Feeding on the Dead" delves into the little-known
world of the 1,000-year-old Aghori sect, whose sadhus, or holy men,
purportedly pull bodies from Hinduism's holy river, the Ganges, in
northern India.
The sect has been written about, but rarely filmed performing its
rituals. Cannibalism is illegal in India.
Director Sandeep Singh, who shut down his transport business to pursue
film-making, said it took him more than three months to gain an Aghori
sadhu's trust and persuade him to be filmed while performing a
cannibalistic ritual.
"When we first met the sadhu, he said: 'Rubbish, we don't do this,"'
Singh told The Associated Press in an interview. "It took months before
he admitted to the rituals."
There are about 70 Aghori sadhus at a given time, Singh said. They
remain with the sect for 12 years, and can then return to their
families, he said.
Unlike other Hindu holy men, most of whom are vegetarians and
teetotalers, the Aghoris also drink alcohol.
But it is their consumption of human flesh, a practice whose origins
remain a mystery, which has earned them the condemnation of other
Hindus and relegated most of them to living around crematoriums in the
hills around the northern holy city of Varanasi, where the documentary
was made.
While filming, Singh and three cameramen waited with an Aghori holy
man, whose name is not mentioned in the film, for 10 days in June
before the sadhu found a corpse floating in the Ganges.
Hindus generally cremate the dead, but sometimes ceremonially dispose
of bodies in the Ganges.
"The body was decomposed and bluish in color, but the sadhu was not
afraid about falling sick," Singh said. "He sat on the corpse, prayed
to a goddess of crematoriums and offered some flesh to the goddess
before eating it."
Singh said the sadhu ate part of the corpse's elbow, believing the
flesh would stop him from aging and give him special powers, like the
ability to levitate or control the weather.
The filmmaker said he did not see any such powers displayed, and plans
to continue his research into the sect by filming ascetics at various
intervals during their 12 years as Aghoris, reports the AP.
I.L.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject:
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http://tinyurl.com/vvrlq
Quote:
The cruel rites of Kali in no way belong to the past. As the Indian
press currently reports, in recent times more and more incidents of
human sacrifice to the goddess have accumulated, in which it is
primarily children who are offered up. The ancient and universal myth
of the Earth Mother, who consumes her own progeny and fattens herself
with their corpses, who greedily laps up the blood-seed of humans and
animals, who lures life into her abyss and dark hole in order to
destroy it, is actually celebrating a renaissance in contemporary India
(Neumann, 1989, pp. 148-149).
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Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:35 am Post subject:
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Quote:
this was an operation on an industrial scale Now I am beginning to
understand why the media ban.
Trevor Greene mentions in his book Bad Date 2001, that there was a
Farmer Willie possibly involved, but rather than concentrating on that
aspect, he followed up a lot, on the fear of a lot of the ladies that
women were being taken aboard ships, used as "entertainment" and dumped
over board.
Until now, I did not realize the property bordered the port.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9024098%255...
Quote:
21mar04
CANADIANS horrified by the discovery of an alleged serial killer in
their midst have been confronted with even worse news -- they may have
eaten animals that ate the victims.
The farmer suspected of killing at least 22 women is feared to have
disposed of their bodies by feeding them to his pigs.
The pigs were then slaughtered on his farm, 30km east of Vancouver, and
the meat given to hundreds of locals.
Police this week confirmed samples of the pig meat probably contained
human DNA, raising the prospect that those living near the farm of
suspected killer Robert William Pickton "ate" his victims.
Pickton, 54, apparently had a habit of slaughtering pigs, wrapping up
the meat and distributing it to associates and friends.
Many of Pickton's victims were prostitutes. The killer regularly gave
pork from his farm to other sex workers.
"Those are my friends that he served up," said one prostitute this week
after learning she may eaten meat contaminated with her friends' DNA.
Families of the missing women expressed shock at the news, with one
telling a Vancouver radio station: "I'm not eating dinner tonight."
Police have asked anyone with frozen pork products from the farm to
turn them into authorities immediately.
Health officials are examining whether human pathogens and diseases
such as hepatitis and HIV could have been transferred through the meat
products.
Police arrested Pickton in February 2002, but only announced this week
they had found human remains and other DNA samples at the farm.
Pickton has been charged with 15 counts of first-degree murder in the
disappearances of women over the past 20 years.
Many of the victims vanished from Vancouver's drug-ridden areas. More
than 60 prostitutes went missing over the past decade and are feared to
have been murdered at the farm.
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So here we have a biker band Spiralarms, and the cover of their
CD contains Kali , the cannibalistic goddess of death, whom is
worshipped in cannibalistic rituals.
The drummer for Spiralarms is from the Mount Diablo/Bohemian Grove area
(where sacrifices are done to Mol-luk , Condor Man, eater of human
flesh) and the drummer also has the cartoon of a human flesh
slaughterhouse on his page.
Then further up the coast in B.C. we have Port Coquitlam, the central
headquarters of the Hells Angels for the entire region, and a gigantic
cannibal restaurant/hall called Piggy Palace, with a slaughterhouse
next to it, situated right next to what could be the most gigantic rail
yard in NA,
and a port servicing ships from Asia.
Finally, we have child-abuse squad occultist Kerr Kuhulain who lives
just SW of Port Coquitlam and publishes occult books
at a publisher by the name of Spiral Press. He has also formed an
occult police organization called The Officers of Avalon.
Now we wonder why the police did nothing for so long?
Quote:
http://www.twpt.com/cuhulain.htm
Kerr Cuhulain A former Air Force officer, Kerr Cuhulain (Vancouver) has
been a police officer for the past twenty years, and a Wiccan for
thirty. He's served on the SWAT team, Gang Crime Unit, and hostage
negotiation team. He travels throughout North America as a popular
speaker at writers' conferences and Pagan festivals, and he has been
the subject of many books, articles, and media interviews. He is the
author of The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca.
"As a child I was a seeker (though, at the time, I couldn't have told
you what I was looking for). I remember leaving libations from my lunch
box for various Greek Gods while I was in elementary school. I found a
book on Wicca in my high school library 31 years ago and realized that
there was a name for what I believed. There was no turning back after
that."
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:42 am Post subject:
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Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/yg8oov
Vancouver Sun
16 September 1989,
Gutowski, who at that time claimed to have treated five "ritual abuse
survivors in the last four to five years,"(2 is quoted as follows:
"We, as psychiatrists, don't want to believe it at all. But the weight
of evidence about hypnotic regressions convinces us that these things
are actually true. And when you see the reality of the impact it has on
their minds and bodies and emotions, it becomes much more
believable."(29)
"According to Gutowski, at these [occult crime] conferences,
psychiatrists are hearing that survivor's disclosures are pointing to
the fact that prominent people are involved in cult activities.
`They're mayors, lawyers, police, church people- upstanding citizens.
These people are not from Skid Road,' he says."(30)
"Gutowski says evidence gathering is nearly impossible because cults
`go to extreme detail in covering up the remains of people that are
murdered, especially of babies. But I don't think anything is being
done because of the difficulty of getting evidence'".(31)
"Chilliwack's Gutowski estimates that up to half of the one in 3,000
people with multiple personality disorders in Canada have been ritually
abused. The other half have experienced extremely sadistic sexual,
physical, mental, or emotional violence. `The typical memories (of
those who have been ritually abused) are of being tied down,
mutilations in the secrecy of night in graveyards, bushes and forests.
Wounds are inflicted where they're not seen and they are not
deep.'"(32)
"Consistency in the way patients retell the details of their stories
while in trances, as well as cross-patient consistencies in the
recounting of typical cult activities, convinces Gutowski further."(33)
Gutowski's name appears again in the Ottawa Citizen, on March 3, 1990.
Gutowski is quoted as follows:
"Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist at the Chilliwack General Hospital
in British Columbia, has dealt with 20 cult survivors since 1985.
"Drugs are a frequent thing that happens, used to confuse (the victims)
so they don't really remember what's reality. That's a purposeful
technique so (memories of the event are) actually blocked out of the
conscious mind and this is where the development of the multiple
personality starts.
"The cult's activities, he says, 'are so gross, that most people who
aren't familiar with the field would say, 'that's not possible'.
Secrecy is one of their biggest weapons."(34)
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willow wrote:
At second Glance I realize Kerr Cuhulain is an alias as you already
mentioned. All I can tell is he is Canadian, doesn't seem to have an
Indian (as in the continent) name or appearance (to me).
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yes, his real name is Charles Ennis. He is not East-Indian.
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Kim Rossmo was treated completely infairly. Instead of getting a medal
for figuring out the geographic evidence suggesting a serial killer was
to blame for the growing number of missing women in the DTES, he was
let go! After being treated like an outcast for quite some time by his
own department and fellow officers.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2006/06/19/bc_child-porn20060619.html
Quote:
Earlier this year Vancouver police Sgt. John Dragani - who has since
retired - was charged with possession of child pornography after
allegations surfaced in 2005 that he had child porn on his home
computer.
http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/9-year-vetren-of-rcmp-fired...
Quote:
Tristan Johnson, 35, a nine-yearvetren of the force came under
suspiscion due to an annonymous tip he was accessing child porn from
his home computer. In another stunning display of interdepartmental
cooperation the tip was passed on to the Vancouver police (the suspects
jurisdiction, Surrey.) After 4 months of investigation, they determined
there was enough evidence supporting the tip to fire him, they
approached the suspect and let him know, he chose to resign in the face
of dismissal. The matter is before the Crown.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=65c84a7b-1efc-4...
Quote:
2nd ex-cop faces child-porn probe Prosecutors study report from
Vancouver police department on allegations involving nine-year
veteran's home computer
http://www.mindytran.com/rcmp_sanctioned_killers.htm
Quote:
The RCMP have been aiding a known group of killers to avoid justice for
many years in Canada. These killers were all later identified as
protected police informants. The Police have gone to great lengths to
protect their informants from prosecution and aggressively obstruct the
victims families from having any recourse to justice. These "special"
informants are functioning as Police agents, above the law and in
certain cases, virtually licensed to kill!
Little about the laws governing these "untouchables" is known and
little is ever willingly disclosed by the RCMP. In most cases, Canadian
laws will prohibit you from knowing, or the media from publishing, the
identities of police informants . see- justice department quiz
(question #1)
What is known is that the number of these "informants" is constantly
being increased and they are involved in criminal activity, while at
the same time, the RCMP is urging the public to inform them of any
criminal activity.
see- RCMP website- number of informants (final paragraph)
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:35 am Post subject:
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So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
to take the fall and shut up?
http://www.mindytran.com/canadian_informants.htm
Quote:
Canadian informants
Examples of Canadian informants:
This man confessed to having committed 43 murders in 1986, supposedly
before turning police informant, and assuming a new identity under the
witness protection program.
quote from serial killer index:
hey there! love the sight but have you ever heard of Yves "Apache"
Trudeau? he is a Hells Angel, now under the protection of the Canadian
government due to his turning in his biker cronies. In return for
ratting his buddies out he recieved immunity for some 43 murders he
committed, mostly for revenge and / or money. A pretty prolific killer
I would say
What was Trudeau doing?
see- story
see- short version
full story- the complete story has now been removed from CBC website.
This information is rapidly disappearing from the public domain.
Cory Patterson, another admitted member of these informant/ killers,
claimed that there were others like him. He was never charged, just
relocated. Patterson was found dead after he informed on his police
handlers and disclosed his protected informant status to a journalist.
The CBC fifth Estate investigated and aired the program.
quote-Justice Paul Hermiston couldn't believe what he was hearing.
Never in his career had he heard of such a bizarre case. He was at a
loss to even speculate why the RCMP would hire such a wicked man.
see story
Clifford Robert Olson, Canada's most notorious serial killer, was an
informant and received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the police
following his arrest. He was a suspect when there was only one victim,
was heavily implicated when there were three, but went on to kill
eleven innocent children before the authorities finally decided to stop
his killing spree. Before any of these murders began, Olson was well
known to police as 'Bobo" the prison informant, a brutal serial rapist
of young male inmates.
see- Clifford Olson named as informant.
see- Bobo the prison rapist
Olson had also committed approximately eighty rapes around Vancouver
without ever being apprehended!
quote-This is a fellow that committed approximately eighty rapes in
Greater Vancouver. We know from undercover policewomen who were in his
home when he was identified as a suspect that he actually had a map up
on the wall of his apartment, his flat, and on the map he had marked up
the locations of his attacks.
see pg/4- Kim Rossmo
Quote: Since 1981, questions have been raised about the search for
Canada's first known serial killer. This account shows in meticulous
detail, how the investigation unfolded from the outset. It is possible
that Olson might have been stopped early in his rampage, when two
officers, each working separate cases, identified him as a suspect.
see- Olson's full story
To this day, an ex police member, Kettle is continuing to be vocal
about his attempts to have Olson investigated at the time. The RCMP
blocked all attempts. There never was a court case.
see- The best Olson story
The murder of Leo LaChance disclosed the complicity of the Crown and
the RCMP in a cover-up to benefit this killer, a known RCMP informant.
Information regarding this killer's protected informant status was
prohibited from being made known during the court case and even
withheld from the subsequent inquiry.
see- story
This informant was on the RCMP payroll when he killed two people. He
confessed, yet no charges were ever laid. This story has now been
removed from news site- www.montrealgazettemay17_2002.pdf Contact them
for information as to why this has now been removed from their website.
Danny Kane was involved in many murders and was authorized to receive
two million dollars from the RCMP at the time of his death.
Quote:
Serious questions are being asked as to why the RCMP looked the other
way when they knew that their informant, Danny Kane, was personally
involved in almost a dozen different murders.
see- story
Recently, CTV W5 looked into another suspicious case in Kenora Ontario.
A suspect was arrested and charged with murder. Years later the charge
was stayed when another suspect surfaced. The other suspect, a police
informant, the police investigator, his uncle! The police refuse to
investigate further or to charge the cop.
see- W5 story
This dangerous RCMP agent was permitted to move right in with his next
victim. There were no warnings. It took years of enduring judicial
obstruction for the mother of the murder victim to find out that her
son's killer was an RCMP agent
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:09 am Post subject:
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Quote:
Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
sea/rail port, from what I can tell the biggest port in the Vancouver
area.
This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
disappearing onto ships.
If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
that might be useful.
The boundaries of the Dominion Av and Burns Rd properties owned by the
Picktons are in fact north of the Lougheed Hwy and the massive rail
connections are to the south, but all in very close proximity to both
the farm and Piggy's Palace. There are certainly no major ports
adjacent to either of the Pickton properties, but it is interesting to
note that the Burns Rd property leads eastward to the Pitt River.
Doesn't take much stretch to visualize smaller logging or fishing
vessels being able to transport things from the Pitt River location
down river to the major ports around Surrey, New West and Richmond.
There is one major port on the Fraser River in Richmond where I was
involved in a private investigation/search (body ultimately recovered
from the Fraser). One of the things we talked about at the time was a
massive "chute" that goes about 100' up in the air and appears to have
something to do with the logging industry (massive wood chipping
operation??). The particular location we were in is called Mitchell
Island. It is a very industrial type area with a lot of transport
trucks, containers, auto parts places, reputed chop-shop locations,
etc. I'm pretty steely, and it was one of the blackest, scariest places
I've ever been with weird people in the shadows, watching what we were
doing and ducking out of sight. Long story ... another time.
Just mainly trying to point out where the water runs from and to in
relation to the Pickton boys.
BTW ... while you are looking at that same area west of the Pitt River
bridge, further west around the corner of Lougheed and Shaughnessy is a
hotel called "The Shaughnessy" (I think) ... I do know that it is
reputed to have heavy HA patronage.
Just to the east of the Pitt River bridge is a hotel that used to be
called "The Wild Duck Inn" and used to be referred to as "The
Gilnetter". Also known for lots of HA attendees.
Thunkerdrone, FWIW ... the Pitt River bridge is the dividing line
between POCO and Haney. There was previous mention of a HA clubhouse
across the road from the Pickton property in POCO. Don't know whether
it ever was determined if it was the Domion Av or Burns Rd property.
There is also a Haney chapter of the HA, so looks like there is a lot
of HA activity in that general area.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:32 am Post subject:
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I can't remember the name of the bike club in Edmonton, it used to be
the Rebels. The fortress was on 83 street and 115 ave if I remember
correctly, and was still there when the other one took over from the
Rebels. It moved after that, 1990's I think. I don't know where they
gather now. Is HA in Edmonton?
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willow
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:
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Hi Des, Yes, they're in Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ontario, Quebec, don't know
about Saskatchewan, but if they aren't there then that's probably the
only place they aren't. I am pretty sure they are in the maritime
provinces too.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:27 am Post subject:
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Quote:
So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
to take the fall and shut up?
Thunkerdrone you may be interested in this site as well
http://www.injusticebusters.com/06/RCMP2006.shtml
Also check out our Olson thread if you havn't already.
http://www.freeforum101.com/edmontonsk/viewtopic.php?t=981&highlight=...
There's some hair raising stuff here, and yes I think its related to
the death cult stuff you've been edumacating us on with your wonderful
links.
You may be able to help tie some of this together with your POV.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:46 am Post subject:
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Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
A few years ago there were definitely "prospecting" clubs (I think aka
"puppet" clubs) for HA in Saskatchewan. They are clubs that go by other
names, but supposedly do the dirty work for the HA.
I read an article on it recently about the heirarchy and the various
affiliations, but can't recall all of it. Will try to find the info
again and post it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:51 am Post subject:
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Re Vancouver Ports, and a post recently about Stan Hennessy being
linked to the HA:
Quote:
The Vancouver Sun published the picture last week prompting questions
about the link between the union and the Hells Angels - the most talked
about organized crime outfit in B.C. but the one with the least number
of members in jail.
Local 31 in Delta led by Hennessy represents more than 6,000 workers in
B.C. and the Yukon, including about 230 civilian employees of the
Vancouver police, 80 civilian employees of the Abbotsford force, about
350 inside workers at the Greater Vancouver Regional District, and
several hundred truckers who haul containers at the Port of Vancouver.
Vancouver civilian police employees have access to highly sensitive
information, ranging from the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC)
to criminal records. They liaise with Crown attorneys, deal with the
public at front counters, assist victims, and perform secretarial work
in all sections of the department.
Let's not even talk about the Vancouver Port which is internationally
renowned for being a gateway for contraband.
from:
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f4ad0a1...
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adrian
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 675
Location: ALBERTA
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: Thunker:::
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YIKES
It has also taken years and years for the murders here, to be looked
at, and the surrounding areas. BTW Saskatchewan, Alberta, and B.C.
there are a hell of a lot of missing and/or murdered. The task force,
is being quiet, but they have some great profilers, and investigators,
of the homicidal sexual sadist.
There could actually be a brotherhood of sorts, and that could contain,
many types of people.The way the gals are killed are not disclosed,
other than then, the obvious burning to some, and one with full body
trauma. Unless someone has learned more info., I wonder if any are
secretly held, and used, tortured, till deemed disposable.Twisted sick.
Plus with bodies splintering out all over, there are a lot of different
jurisdictions.I hope the police from each place is keeping in touch
with each other.There could even be a cop who has knowledge, who knows?
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:
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Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
Um ... I guess hellsangelssaskatoon.ca with www. in front of it might
give us a bit of a clue here
and from a Criminal Intelligence Service Canada 2001 report at
http://www.cfdp.ca/crint01.htm
Quote:
Trafficking in cocaine and marijuana continues to be the primary
activity of the HELLS ANGELS Saskatoon chapter. The gang manages
numerous marijuana grow operations and is also involved in strip clubs
and escort agencies
from Injusticebusters "Gangs of Saskatoon"
http://www.injusticebusters.com/04/Gangs_of_Saskatoon.htm
Quote:
The Hells Angels are using street gangs to deal illegal drugs such as
"crystal meth," a highly addictive stimulant popping up everywhere on
the streets of Saskatoon, say police.
"There is a tonne of crystal meth in town here. It's appeared in huge
quantities over the past year," Saskatoon Police Services Sgt. Gavin
Morgan told the Saskatchewan News Network.
"We do have intelligence that there are connections in the drug trade
between the Hells Angels and the Native street gangs."
quig
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The Hells Angels seem to be the missing link between the CIA drug lords
and the various street gangs, be they the black , Italian, or native
gangs
not to mention the fact that the CIA has been known to plant their own
in key positions at many police departments:
CIA importing cocaine into U.S.: Dateline NBC
video
http://tinyurl.com/yxs4wf
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I watched that and drew the conclusion that the CIA denies it,
So no, they did not admit dealing drugs.
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A Los Angelas Police narcotics detective
said it. I believe him. btw, he is not the only one to come
forward) He was recruited by the CIA , but turned them down
to work for the LAPD instead.
found another video on this:
video:
Former narcotics investigator Mike Ruppert was forced out of the LAPD
in 1977 when he exposed the evidence of drug trafficking by the CIA.
THis is one of his first appearances caught on video in 1997 at the
Granada Forum in California. Topic is CIA Drug Running.
http://tinyurl.com/yjugzk
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gornk wrote:
> I was speaking today with a colleague, trying to
> get myself inside the head of a blood-drinker,
> and that of a rich and powerful blood-drinker at
> that.
>
>
> What strains the credulity of the average person is that they
> cannot believe that 'respectable', 'intelligent', 'prominent'
> people would engage in such things. Is it possible?
> But to better understand , research the life of Benjamin Franklin for
> some insight into the type of people I am referring to.
> Benjamin Franklin was both ingenious and satanic.
>
>
> In my research, the conclusion that I came to is that this belief
> system is also prevalent among some of the most prominent,
> prolific, and brilliant minds in the world.
>
>
> Hence, the rich and powerful involved, and very willing both to provide
>
>
>
> eachother victims and to help conceal the crimes.
>
>
> Some of these people are worshipped for their genious.
> Their genious is fed by evil, but their genious also produces
> immeasurable wealth and knowledge to mankind.
>
>
> The rich and powerful are heavily into hedonism. They recognize no
> boundaries. Their quest is to achieve complete omnipotence, and these
> people feel that they are performing A SERVICE TO HUMANITY each time
> they ritualistically take a life. Each time they give a life surge to
> the stronger among us.
>
>
> That is why the ritual murder is termed a 'sacrifice'. They are willing
>
>
>
> that humanity , (and the victim's loved ones) lose these people in
> order that the stronger among us, the smartest, perhaps even the
> ingenious, will gain , at any cost, greater fortitude, greater life
> force, to perform their great works in the service of mankind.
>
>
> This is also why the victims of this network tend to be the weaker
> underlings, society's discarded, such as poor and uneducated
> people/hitchhikers/ prostitutes. These are deemed to be the expendable
> sector of society, the equivalent of beef cattle, in service to the
> greater good of humanity.
>
>
> warning: graphic video of kosher slaughter process at
> kosher meat packing plant.
>
>
> (similar to satanic ritual torture of animals and people. Ancient
> practice of drinking blood of tortured victims/animals in occult
> rituals. Why?
> The blood of the tortured is the most ancient narcotic , going back to
> man's most primitive beginnings. The blood of the tortured is full of
> natural opiates (endorphin pain-killers) secreted by the brain
> into the blood stream. The blood of the tortured (animal or human) is
> also full of adrenaline, the natural stimulant that is secreted into
> the blood by the adrenal glands
> for the 'fight or flight' response . Thus pain and fear produce a
> harvest of opiates and stimulants from the glands of a mammal.
>
>
> graphic video of kosher slaughter: http://tinyurl.com/y8zfu8
>
>
> (note how this death chamber is crafted to generate maximum terror in
> the animals.)
> Standard north american plants immediately kill the animal with
> a bolt through the head, far different from the kosher meat processing
> depicted here. In this video, notice how the slaughter chamber is
> crafted to provoke maximum terror among the animals, with the deafening
>
>
>
> sound of several hellish machines operating simultaneosly and the
> simultaneous death throes of several animals. Note how the machine
> immobilizes the head of the animals while its voice box is ripped from
> the throat with a hook after the throat is slit, to silence the animal,
>
>
>
> then the machine squeezes the torso of the animal, its blood draining
> into a grate
> and the legs then mechanically crushed to prevent it from standing
> while it dies slowly, . This is
> conducted to produce maximum pain and terror. (notice that part
> of the ritual is that if the animal makes eye contact with anyone
> else other than the appointed throat cutter, they are to kick blood
> into it's eyes.)
>
>
> In occult rituals, the victim is tortured and their blood drained into
> goblets.
> This blood is immediately drinken because it provides an incredible
> narcotic high.
> Just like many popular narcotics are actually a mixture of opiates and
> stimulants together (morphine and amphetamines) (codeine and caffeine).
>
>
>
> This ancient practice created an addiction among it's proponents. It
> became habitual, and also
> imbued with spiritual meaning among the ignorant. Ancient man did not
> understand why the blood of the tortured contained opiates and
> stimulants, or why drinking this blood made him feel like a god. He
> thought that this was his mystical connection with dark spirits, and
> the narcotic high a reward by spirits for his cruelty toward his
>
>
> I wonder how blood drinkers deal with these modern scourges of AIDS,
> hepc etc.
> ARe people known to be uninfected chosen? Maybe children or
> babies in cases that they wish to use actual human blood? Do they have
> access to the medical
> records of victims? Access to blood lab records or testing facilities?
>
>
>
> Somehow they are obtaining victims with clean blood.
> In case that blood safety is in question , I would guess that, as
> mentioned earlier, we can now synthesize same or even more
> powerful endorphin and adrenaline , in the form of narcotic
> mixtures,through plant-based opiates (endorphins) and stimulants
> (adrenaline) . If the blood cannot be used in the ritual, then the cult
>
>
>
> will use drugs.
> I am willing to bet that there is still a higher than average incidence
>
>
>
> of HIV among satanists, due to these factors. Especially back in the
> early 1980's before public awareness and the attendant precautions.
>
>
> My guess is that these rituals are often designed equally around
> ministering to the hormonal/bestial needs of these people.
> It is probable that those performing these acts feel that they
> reach a physically satiated state from participating. The act of
> committing the violence alone, under the proscribed ritual, does things
>
>
>
> to their blood and brain chemistry from which they derive strength,
> both spiritual and physical.
>
>
> A good analogy I can think of is sport hunters and sport fishermen, and
>
>
>
> especially sport fisherman, who unlike hunters, often release or
> discard their catch. There is no logical reason to lure fish and
> inflict pain on them, and then release them into the water. These are
> not particularly sadistic people either. There is something primordial
> and ancient about the life and death struggle of having a fish on the
> line. It is struggling for its life, fighting, and one must in turn
> resist its fight, in effect fight for one's life. Fight or flight
> hormones are released into the blood.
> Many people are addicted to the thrill of hooking a big fish, even if
> they throw it back.
> This is the adrenaline rush of the predator, of the hunter.
> Some people watch horror films for the same reason. They get an
> adrenaline rush from being frightened, and find that their sedentary
> and secure life dulls them into not hormonally experiencing life's
> daily struggle for survival. This is the adrenaline rush of the hunted.
>
>
>
> These are both fight or flight hormonal rushes that people are
> experiencing/achieving.
> That of the hunter and that of the hunted. There may be a crucial
> difference here. Satanists may be achieving a blood chemistry
> conducive to physical stamina, even genius, through ritualistic
> violence
> (adrenaline rush of the predator) followed by blood drinking, or
> perhaps the consumption of powerful narcotics containing both opiates
> and stimulants. (Mick Jagger, a knighted Freemason of the highest
> order, put out a record called 'Goats Head Soup', with a picture of a
> goats head in a pot. He was also a notorious user of heroine, and one
> of the Rolling Stones biggest hits is a song called 'Sympathy for the
> Devil'.
> Mick Jagger fits the exact profile of the satanic persona that I make
> reference to .
> Extremely wealthy, and revered, gifted and talented, at one point the
> subject of mass adoration at its absurd extreme.
> He achieved cult-status popularity. People worshipped him, and so he
> accepted their offerings......a very good candidate for satanism,
> to be recruited by the cult, to be made to drink human blood. He too
> would be sacrificing something in participation, sacrificing his
> morality
> as part of the process, likely in the hopes of attaining greater
> strength with which to reward his supporters, and earn their adulation.
>
>
>
> Jagger would be just a tiny cog, one of thousands and tens of thousands
>
>
>
> of prominent people who are 'dabbled' in the occult, dipped in the
> blood.
> I mention him here only because his occult past is fairly widely known.
>
>
>
> What was not known until recently is the extent of occultism, and the
> seriousness
> of it practitioners: their extremism.
> Bohemian Grove: satanic rituals of rich and powerful
> DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE
> WHAT IS BOHEMIAN GROVE?
> SEE THE TRUTH AS DOCUMENTED IN ALEX'S FILM, DARK SECRETS: INSIDE
> BOHEMIAN GROVE
>
>
> Since 1873, the global elite has held secret meetings in the ancient
> redwood forest of Northern California. Members of the Bohemian Club,
> headquartered in San Francisco, CA, include Former Presidents
> Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush family maintains a strong
> involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of this all-male
> organization don red, black and silver robes and conduct an occult
> ritual Wherein they Worship a giant stone owl, sacrificing a human
> being in effigy to What they call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."
>
>
> Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated
> Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual
>
>
>
> on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just
> Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN
> GROVE
> watch the video online here:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/j29x9
>
>
> (bear in mind that the ritual depicted here is for the 'outer circle',
> the largest and most mainstream gathering of the year. This is where
> each member is allowed to bring a guest. This is recruitment time. The
> real satanic stuff at the Grove goes on not in the summer time,
> when this video was shot, but in the autumn , and the autumn rituals
> are ultra secretive, include only insiders in tiny, concealed groups.
>
>
> The grove itself is a massive, thickly forested rural installation
> protected by the united states Secret Service. If ritual human
> sacrifice (murder) were to take place securely and secretly anywhere in
>
>
>
> America, it would have to be at a place like this, for it to remain a
> secret for so long, and it would likely be somewhere here, on this
> forested land, at some dark and obscure time of year.)
> Child abductee and child prostitute Paul Bonacci has written a book in
> which he describes taking part as a child in pedophile/murder rituals
> at Bohemian Grove)
>
>
> Skull and Bones: Secret Satanic Society of the political elite
> I. http://tinyurl.com/f9bme
> II. http://tinyurl.com/qrg9p
>
>
> Burned bodies are sometimes connected with rituals involving child
> sacrifice. The parents should be thoroughly investigated in any case
> in which a body is found burned, especially that of a youth.
> Burning the body is of course also a good means of destroying forensic
> evidence thoroughly. You burn up any finger prints or fibres, and/or
> conceal the type of injuries inflicted during the killing. I suspect
> the fire department therefore plays a very large role in secret
> societies.
>
>
> As far as media/police/establishment complicity in this: the mind
> boggles.
> A fish rots from the head down. If you have the allegiance of key
> offices of power, key to the power structures of society, that may be
> all that is required.
> Everyone in authority is with you, or they are out.
> 'You are with us, or you are against us.' From there follows mysterious
>
>
>
> hirings and firings, transfers , promotions, demotions. Recruitment.
> Blacklisting, blackballing, blackmailing, setups, defamations/character
>
>
>
> assassinations. Bribes. Payouts. Honors. Election financing/voter
> fraud. Murders. You name it, there are ways to achieve what we are
> discussing here.
>
>
> The system can be manipulated from within.
> What comes to mind is that virtually unlimited resources are expended.
> As in the Jack the Ripper murders (see the film
>
>
>
> >From Hell, featuring actor Johnny Depp), some of the killings appear to
>
>
> be 'silencings' or people being 'being disappeared' because they know
> something. Canada's justice system is really something too. How many of
>
>
> these apparently random 'first offence' killers are actually hired to
> silence people. If they are caught, they know that it means a maximum
> of about five to eight years inside. Not bad, if you are secretly paid
> a large sum of money. You do five years inside, but you are making
> fifty
> thousand a year to be there , and there is a good chance that you
> will not even be caught to begin with.
>
>
> Hollywood Films about secret societies to watch:
>
>
>
> >From Hell
>
>
> Skulls
> Skulls II
> Skulls III
>
> AS far as a network or a brotherhood, we already have words for some of
>
>
>
> those: gangs, mafia, etc. How deeply are the bikers, the rappers. or
> the mafioso tied up in this? Some these pimp
> 'street gangs' like the Crips and bloods in L.A. or the Canadian street
>
>
>
> gangs are heavily into child prostitution/procurement.
> In Halifax it was the Glasgow Guys , a black gang that had a nationwide
>
>
>
> network of pimps and recruited teenaged girls, transporting them from
> city to city. and murdering them if they tried to escape or threatened
> to tell anyone. It emerged that the leaders of many of these
> rap/pimp/rasta
> gangs have been heavily into voodoo, paganism, and attending wiccan
> events/occult parties and gatherings. Larry King was a black politician
>
>
>
> who ran a child pimping ring in Washington, D.C
> watch this film: http://tinyurl.com/ykdd9o
> It is a made-for television documentary that, mysteriously, never made
> it to air, its broadcast cancelled at the last minute by 'the powers
> that be'.
> If you want to know how deep and how high the corruption goes, watch
> 'The Clinton Chronicles' on Google video.
>
>
> one of the ancient Babylonian human sacrifice rituals involved
> parents burning their children alive as a sacrifice to 'Molech'
> Christine Van Hees was ritually sacrificed and burned by Dutroux and
> his cult.
> According to people in the area on the night of the murder, who heard a
>
>
>
> young
> woman screaming, one of the last utterances Van Hees is said to have
> issued:
> "No, not that! Stop! Mum!"
> Van Hees was murdered not far from her parents home, in the basement
> of an abandoned farm house, and as part of her torture was doused in
> kerosine and lit on fire.
>
>
> also of interest:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1024319,00.html
> Dutroux reveals that police helped in teens' kidnap
> BY AGENCIES IN ARLON, BELGIUM
>
>
> Marc Dutroux, whose face in court cannot be shown under Belgian law
>
>
> Marc Dutroux, the Belgian paedophile, revealed today that police
> officers helped him to abduct two young women whose bodies were later
> discovered buried in his garden.
>
>
> Testifying for the first time at his trial, Dutroux said that he
> abducted An Marchal, 17, and Eefje Lambrecks, 19, with the help of a
> heroin-addicted friend, who is also on trial, and two other men.
>
>
> "I later found out they were members of the police force," he told the
> court, without identifying them.
> Dutroux, 47, a convicted paedophile, is testifying on the third day of
> his trial in the small town of Arlon. He is accused of kidnapping,
> imprisoning and repeatedly raping six girls in the 1990s, and killing
> four of them.
>
>
> His defence team says that he was part of a large paedophile network
> that reached into the legal establishment.
>
>
> Dutroux told the court: "It is regrettable that four people can never
> come back. I cannot repair that. If I hadn't agreed to do what I did
> they would probably be alive.
>
>
> "I cannot accept all responsibility, but take responsibility for the
> role I played."
>
>
> Dutroux told the court that one of the police officers and his alleged
> drug-addict accomplice, Michel Leli�vre, raped Ms Marchal after the
> teenagers were kidnapped while on holiday near the Belgian coastal town
>
>
>
> of Ostende.
>
>
> But Dutroux denied murdering the two young women, who according to a
> post-mortem examination, were most likely to have been drugged until
> they were unconscious and then buried alive.
>
>
> Dutroux said that he left the two young women with Mr Leli�vre and a
> French accomplice, Bernard Weinstein, whom Dutroux has today denied
> killing, after previously admitting to murder while in custody. The two
>
>
>
> men planned to force the women into prostitution.
>
>
> Dutroux told the court: "I never thought that they were going to kill
> them. I find it a great shame that these girls died. It's a disaster."
>
>
> Their bodies were discovered by the police in September 1996, buried in
>
>
>
> the garden of a property belonging to Dutroux.
>
>
> A month before, the brutally abused bodies of Julie Lejeune and Melissa
>
>
>
> Russo, two eight-year-old girls, were unearthed from another Dutroux
> property, along with that of Mr Weinstein.
>
>
> Post-mortem examination reports showed that the children had starved to
>
>
>
> death after being raped and beaten.
> **********
> transcript of BBC television show broadcast throughout Europe:
> Correspondent: Belgium's X-Files
>
>
> Tx Date 5th May 2002
>
>
> This script was made from audio tape - any inaccuracies are due to
> voices being unclear or inaudible
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
>
>
> In 1996 this woman came forward to tell the Belgian
> authorities she'd spent her childhood years as the victim
> of a paedophile network.
> She described a world of organised sexual abuse, torture
> and even murder.
> It was terrible, you didn't believe your eyes and I didn't
> believe that humans could do that.
>
>
> She talked of violent child sex orgies with politicians,
> judges and influential businessmen; a Belgian
> underworld in which the establishment has refused to
> believe.
>
>
> Claude Eerdekens says
> Voice over
>
>
> Regina Louf is a pathological liar; she's a woman who's
> invented a series of scenarios, which just don't stand up.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
> A campaign followed to discredit her evidence. But now,
> in an exclusive interview, the policeman assigned to
> investigate her claims has broken his silence.
> He says the enquiry was blocked because it threatened to
> reveal too much.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens says
> I'm convinced that she has been a victim - that's for sure.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
> In June 1996 this Belgian slum revealed a bitter secret
> that would come to haunt the nation.
> The eyes of the world watched in horror. Into the light
> emerged two young girls.
> Laetitia, aged fourteen and Sabine just twelve were the
> latest in a long line of girls who'd gone missing.
>
>
> Marc Dutroux, a convicted rapist and kidnapper, had led
> the police to where he'd imprisoned them.
> Relief swept Belgium as their tearful homecoming was
> caught on camera.
> But it soon turned to horror when police revealed the
> secret cage hidden in the cellar of Dutroux's house.
>
>
> The girls had been kept here, drugged and repeatedly
> raped.
> But what of Belgium's other missing children. Eight year
> olds Julie and Melissa who were missing for more than a
> year and twelve others who'd vanished mysteriously.
>
>
> Was this a new lead in the hunt for them?
>
>
> The hopes of their parents were soon dashed. Within
> days Marc Dutroux led police to the site where the bodies
> of Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo were buried.
> The parents were informed but when the Russos asked to
> see their daughter, Melissa, for the last time, they were
> refused.
>
>
> Mother of Melissa
> Voice over
>
>
> We begged, we were crying to see her. Really we insisted
> with our lawyer, we really cried. They said no, it's not
> possible, that's the law. But we said what's the point of
> the law. And they said it's for your own psychological
> good.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> It's not up to them to know what's good for our
> psychological well-being. What would have been good
> for us was to be certain.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel says:
> It's six years since the police unearthed the bodies of
> Julie and Melissa buried in the garden of this house.
>
>
> What's extraordinary to me is that though Dutroux's in
> jail, he's never been tried for these crimes. It's as though
> the judicial system froze when faced with having to bring
> him to trial.
>
>
> Officially Dutroux lived on benefits yet this house, now
> derelict, was one of five that he owned.
> The bodies of two more missing girls were found at
> another of his houses- Efje Ambrecks and An Marchal.
>
>
> Aston
> PAUL MARCHAL
> Father of Victim
>
>
> I didn't believe that it was possible that children were
> kept in, in a cellar and were raped and, and kept there,
> until that Dutroux was, taken to prison and that he, that
> he could see the cellar. At the moment I had to believe.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
>
>
> Before the murders Marc Dutroux had already been
> convicted of five charges of rape and kidnapping. Yet
> somehow he'd served only six years in jail before he was
> released back into the Charleroi underworld.
>
>
> This was once Belgium's industrial heartland but today
> its most famous industry is crime.
>
>
> Dutroux melted back into this realm of prostitution, drug
> traffic and stolen cars and began to plan his next project -
> the kidnap of children.
> For the parents now burying their murdered daughters
> after more than a year of fruitless searching, this was not
> the end of their nightmare. They would soon find out
> that Dutroux had been a prime suspect from the start, yet
> nothing had been done to save their girls.
>
>
> Melissa's father is still asking why his daughter was
> allowed to die.
>
>
> Aston
> GINO RUSSO
> Father of Melissa
> Voice over
>
>
> "Ten days after the kidnapping of Julie and Melissa in '95,
> three witnesses said it was Dutroux who was kidnapping
> children. But they don't go looking for Julie and Melissa
> at his house straight after the kidnapping. It's
> inexplicable. And he continues to kidnap other children.
> They put a special surveillance unit to watch Dutroux
> and he continues to kidnap children. It's inexplicable;
> the whole thing is inexplicable from start to finish."
>
>
> Frenkiel says:
>
>
> What is known is that Dutroux was finally caught when
> his white van was identified. It had been used to snatch a
> sixth girl, miles away from his home patch.
>
>
> The man who arrested Dutroux was Jean Marc Conerotte,
> an investigating magistrate. He became a national hero,
> uniquely respected by the parents of the murdered
> children.
>
>
> Paul Marchal
> "He is someone who want to know the truth. You can feel
> it when you talk to him, you can feel that he want to
> investigate, the he want to have the truth. He is a very
> good magistrate."
>
>
> Conerotte arrested Dutroux's associates. Among the first
> was Jean Michel Nihoul.
> Nihoul and Dutroux had been seen at the site of the latest
> abduction the night before. They'd been in constant
> phone contact the day it happened. And the next day
> Nihoul gave ten thousand pounds worth of drugs to an
> accomplice of Dutroux.
>
>
> One witness claimed, Nihoul had ordered a girl.
> Conerotte knew Nihoul had influential friends, he
> suspected he was the brains behind a network supplying
> clients with children to abuse. It's a charge Nihoul
> denies.
> Conerotte appealed to the public for information.
>
>
> "When I saw him walking down the stairs, I thought that I
> knew everything about him. It was a shock; I thought
> finally they stopped him.
> Regina Louf was one of the first to come forward. She
> said that as a child she'd been abused for many years in a
> paedophile network involving Nihoul and Dutroux.
> I remember Jean Michel Nihoul as a very cruel man; he
> abused children in a very sadistic way.
>
>
> She says that at the age of twelve she was taken with
> other children to sex parties. And, she told investigators,
> Dutroux was there, working for Nihoul.
>
>
> REGINA LOUF
> "Dutroux was a boy who brought drugs, cocaine and
> something like that, to these parties, who brought some
> girls, watched girls at these parties. Nihoul, he, he was a
> sort of party beast. Dutroux was more on the side."
>
>
> Nihoul denies he's ever met Regina Louf. But her story's
> never changed. Nihoul, she said, was one of those who
> organised the parties and invited the cream of Belgian
> society - judges, politicians and influential businessmen
> in order to compromise them.
>
>
> "It was big business, yeah and it was very well organised
> too. There was a lot of money going on there and a lot of
> blackmail also. They had a lot of parties; they filmed it
> even. So, yes, yes, it exists. I know it sounds crazy and I
> know that there is a big taboo on everything like that but
> it exists."
>
>
> Regina Louf's story was horrific. But her account of a
> violent paedophile underworld was by now reinforced by
> new witnesses, some of whom also named influential
> people.
>
>
> The investigation began. The witnesses' identities were
> protected. Each was given a codename beginning with X.
> Regina was X-1. They went up to X-9. Their testimonies
> became known as Belgium's X-Files.
>
>
> The task of trying to verify them fell to a young police
> investigator.
>
>
> RUDY HOSKENS
> Team Leader, Police
> investigation
>
>
> "They were telling stories we hadn't heard before in our
> lives. Things we couldn't believe at first. So we told
> ourselves, is this true? Could this be true? And when it
> is true it's very, it's very, it's frightening that things like
> that could happen".
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "We had a special room for the interviews. It was
> specially kept for people who had been victimised by
> such matters. There was a camera in the room. They
> were done mostly in the evening or the early hours.
> When the interviews were finished, they were written
> down by a few people of my team, all the way from the
> first word to the last, literally."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> But before the investigation could get under way there
> was a bombshell.
>
>
> Jean Marc Conerotte, the man who'd arrested Dutroux,
> who'd saved the imprisoned girls, was sacked from the
> case.
>
>
> His removal caused a public outcry. Belgians lost faith in
> their judicial system: Crowds descended on the Palace of
> Justice and accused the courts of colluding with the
> killers.
>
>
> Crowds shouting
>
>
> The father of one of the murdered girls spoke for all.
>
>
> Gino Russo
> Subtitles
>
>
> "This decision is like spitting on
> the graves of Julie and Melissa."
>
>
> Gino Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "As an investigating magistrate, Conerotte, who arrests
> ten people and they sack him and they appoint another
> investigation magistrate, Langlois, who's never done the
> job before. It's his first appointment in the most
> important investigation, in the biggest file of the century.
> You're going to put in an investigating magistrate who's
> never done the job before - can you understand that?"
>
>
> Three hundred thousand outraged Belgians marched
> through Brussels in a demonstration of grief and
> solidarity. This White March was the largest protest the
> country had ever seen.
>
>
> Frenkiel
> Belgians felt that the dismissal of Conerotte was a
> betrayal of Dutroux's victims, that it signalled the end of
> any real search for a network.
>
>
> The two rescued girls were overwhelmed.
>
>
> Laetitia
> Subtitle
>
>
> "Thank you for coming in such large numbers."
>
>
> Sabine
> Subtitle
>
>
> "Thank you all for coming."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The country's highest legal authorities had removed the
> only judge in which the public had any faith because he'd
> attended a fund raising dinner for the families of missing
> children. A conflict of interest they'd called it; a lack of
> judgement. The government feared a revolution.
>
>
> Aston
> VINCENT DECROLY MP
> "I think there were a kind of insurrection climate, a kind of
> pre-revolutionary climate here. You know, the big
> powers in Belgium so the magistrates and the political
> circus, the government, the parliament, everything was
> totally discredited, everything was totally discredited."
>
>
> No one knew what to believe anymore. Rumour and
> speculation spawned a variety of wild theories.
>
>
> Actor
> "You will instigate ultimate fear."
> A full length feature film suggested the whole affair was part of an
> extreme right wing plot to destabilise the country.
>
>
> Aston
> 'Blue Belgium'
> by Rob Van Eyck
>
>
> "I'm very pleased Victor. Three hundred thousand idiots
> marching in Brussels and an ocean of white balloons -
> magnificent! Pathetic and impressive at the same time.
> We really got them exactly where we want them."
>
>
> To appease the public's concern, parliament set up the
> Dutroux Nihoul Commission.
> subtitles
>
>
> I propose that the commission
> observe a moment's silence.
>
>
> 00.15.22
> Aston
> VINCENT DECROLY MP
> Commission member
> As the pressure grew more and more they decided, in a
> kind of panic climate, to create the commission because
> the political world had to try to find an answer.
>
>
> 00.15.35
> Olenka Frenkiel
> But what the commission revealed was incompetence that
> beggared belief.
>
>
> Police had been told of Dutroux's plans to make money
> by kidnapping children. They had his house under
> surveillance throughout the abductions.
>
>
> They even searched inside and heard the sound of
> children but failed to find the dungeon.
> What it established beyond doubt was that the girls could
> have been saved.
>
>
> Aston
> CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> Commission member
>
>
> They had everything they needed to arrest Dutroux.
> That's the scandal of this affair. Dutroux was known; he
> had previous form. They had valid intelligence that he'd
> built the hiding place in the cellar for the little girls.
> There was information from Charleroi that the children
> could be at the house.
> But when the parliamentary commission began to ask
> why, was it incompetence or had someone in authority
> protected Dutroux, co-operation with their investigation
> stopped.
>
>
> Aston
> GINO RUSSO
> Father of Melissa
> Voice over
>
>
> "It was completely sabotaged to the point that all the work
> they did has been locked away in archives for thirty
> years. It was parliament that voted that on itself. Can
> you imagine?"
>
>
> If the commission's job had been to restore stability, to
> clear the air of insurrection, it worked.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The danger to Belgium's establishment was over. But
> there was still no answer to the most important question -
> was the catalogue of failures pure incompetence or had
> Dutroux and his friends enjoyed protection?
>
>
> Were they protected?
>
>
> Aston
> CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> Commission member
> Voice over
>
>
> "On the question of protection we didn't discover much,
> unless you count the best protection that Dutroux could
> have had and that's the incompetence of Belgium's police
> and judicial system."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
>
>
> But Jean Michel Nihoul, the man suspected of hiring
> Dutroux to kidnap children, was released from jail after
> just five months. It's still unclear if he'll ever come to
> trial and some members of the commission remain
> convinced he is protected.
>
>
> Vincent Decroly
> "We succeeded in demonstrating that Nihoul was really an
> artist in protection, really a specialised man in
> manipulating enquiries, policemen and judges. We had
> proof about that."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Nihoul's release just left more unanswered questions for
> the families. The mother of Melissa, Carine Russo, has
> access to the legal evidence the court will bring against
> Dutroux.
> She's found no answers, nothing to clarify who stole,
> raped and killed her daughter. All charges Dutroux
> denies.
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "Five years on there's still no admission from Dutroux.
> There's no material evidence, no witness statements,
> which state that it was Dutroux who really kidnapped the
> children, who really raped them and who really killed
> them."
>
>
> 00.18.57
> Gino Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "It's a catastrophe because nothing is anymore clear
> today. Nothing is clear."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The parents suspect Dutroux was not acting alone. That
> others were involved in abducting and hiding the girls.
>
>
> When he was briefly imprisoned for car theft in
> November 1995, Dutroux claims to have left the girls in
> his cellar, in this specially constructed cage with a little
> food and water.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> On his release, after nearly four months, Dutroux claims
> he'd found the children barely alive, that he tried to save
> them but they died in his arms.
>
>
> But for the Russos, this story can't be true.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "Four months incarceration of two little girls of eight
> years old in a cellar in the middle of winter. But when I
> say cellar it's a little hide built inside the cellar, so it's
> tiny, three metres by two, even less. No windows,
> completely dark, they cut off the heating."
>
>
> Gino Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> They cut the electricity and heat.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> And no food - for four months. Then he says when he
> came out of prison four months later, they're still alive.
> Well then they're superhuman. It's unimaginable two
> children of eight holding out, alone, with nothing to
> sustain them - no food, no heat, no human, no
> psychological contact. Nothing. In a little cage like that
> for such a long time and survive.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> So how did they survive so long? Did someone else keep
> them alive?
>
>
> The Palace of Justice in Liege is the seat of one of
> Belgium's most powerful figures - Prosecutor General
> Anne Thily, who's in charge of the case.
>
>
> She says there's no evidence to contradict Dutroux's
> version of how the children died.
> So how did the children survive so long? Nearly four
> months, until Dutroux was released from prison.
> 00.21.12
> Aston
> ANNE THILY
> Prosecutor General
> Voice over
>
>
> No, no, Julie was dead. Melissa was nearly dead and
> then she died. I think it was the next day.
>
>
> But Melissa, how could she have survived nearly four
> months?
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> Survive in what condition? In a lamentable state, she
> was so weak she could not get up. That's according to
> Dutroux of course; no one else was there.
>
>
> Dutroux was acting alone. This is the mantra repeated
> again and again in Belgium with a certitude that for the
> victims' parents is inexplicable.
>
>
> They believe that investigators have blocked every lead,
> rejected every clue, which would reveal that Dutroux was
> kidnapping girls for someone else.
>
>
> Most painful perhaps is the autopsy report, which shows
> Melissa had been repeatedly raped about two weeks
> before her death, while Dutroux was in jail.
>
>
> So who raped this child? Dutroux denies he raped the
> girls.
>
>
> But isn't it simple to find out if Dutroux raped them or
> someone else - scientifically?
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "Normally yes, in principal, yes. But in fact the most
> elementary scientific tests, like DNA tests, the traces of
> the culprit on the body of the child, were just not done."
>
>
> Back in the Palace of Justice they say the DNA tests were
> done but the results were inconclusive.
>
>
> Can you explain why there was no DNA analysis done?
>
>
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> DNA analysis was done Madame!
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> And the results?
>
>
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> Nothing.
>
>
> Frenkiel
> What does that mean? That there was no trace of sperm?
> Anne Thily
> Voice over
>
>
> They were in a very putrefied state. It did not allow us to
> make an analysis of that type, of sperm or anything.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> That's not what's written in the autopsy report. Again
> the story doesn't square.
>
>
> The bodies weren't severely decomposed. DNA can be
> identified from samples taken long after death. The
> question remains unanswered - why is there no DNA
> result, might it have shown that someone else had raped
> Melissa?
>
>
> Other forensic tests that should have been routine were
> just not done. Human hairs collected from Dutroux's
> dungeon weren't sent for analysis.
>
>
> The logic was strange. They claimed that as there was no
> evidence anyone else had entered the cage, there was no
> need to analyse the hair.
>
>
> In five years Conerotte's successor has shed no light on
> the abduction, imprisonment or death of the girls.
>
>
> Jacques Langlois refused to be interviewed.
>
>
> PAUL MARCHAL
> Father
> "Langlois don't believe in a sort of network. For Langlois,
> Dutroux is the only one who used the girls. For Langlois
> it's, it's simple; there's one raper, Dutroux, a closed case."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> By the Spring of 1997, evidence of a paedophile network
> linked to the Dutroux affair was emerging from the
> testimony of the X witnesses.
>
>
> Regina Louf had provided investigators with details of
> her childhood abuse, which they'd begun to check.
>
>
> RUDY HOSKENS
> Team Leader, Police
> investigation
> "In one of her testimonies she explained how a certain
> person had been murdered in a certain place. So, we
> went to look for that case, that old case, she described it,
> where it happened more or less."
>
>
> REGINA LOUF
> "I remember it like it's a film in my head. I can close my
> eyes and see every little detail of that house she was
> murdered."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Regina Louf described a house where in 1984 she said
> she saw the torture and murder of a young girl. The
> house was connected to an underground mushroom farm.
>
>
> The building has since been demolished. But Rudy
> Hoskens' team identified it and matched Regina's story
> to an unsolved murder - that of fifteen year old Christine
> van Hees.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "She gave us some details that made us think it's
> impossible to give without having been there at that
> place, or without having, yeah, lived that in the way the
> body was found at that time and the way she described
> the person was, was killed. There were some things that
> were exact."
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "It was a sort of bondage, so her legs and her hands and
> her throat were connected with the same rope and when
> she moved she strangled herself, yeah."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> The credibility of Regina Louf's testimony hinged partly
> on whether she really knew the house where Christine
> Van Hees was killed.
>
>
> This man grew up there, though his family sold it before
> the murder.
> It was two houses knocked into one with a unique
> passage of stairs and corridors. No one, he says, could
> describe it unless they'd been there.
>
>
> Man
> Voice over
>
>
> "There was the corridor here between the two houses.
> And she drew a picture of the doors inside. They were
> antique doors and she drew the mouldings. She
> described the wallpaper and the front step. I don't know
> how she could have described it all so faithfully if she'd
> never entered the house."
>
>
> Man
> Voice over
>
>
> "I don't know Regina Louf; I've never even met her. All I
> know is from her description of the house, of the
> mushroom farm, my brother and I agreed, I'm sure, it's
> certain she entered the mushroom farm. It's certain. "
>
>
> Frenkiel
> The police were now convinced they were on to
> something. That Regina Louf's testimony was credible.
>
>
> What's more it gave them a new link between Marc
> Dutroux and the man accused of being his boss, Jean
> Michel Nihoul.
>
>
> In the year before her death, Christine Van Hees was a
> regular visitor to the Brussels ice-rink where Marc
> Dutroux also went.
>
>
> He'd already been banned from the rink in Charleroi
> where he was notorious for molesting girls. The manager
> remembers it well.
>
>
> Ice rink manager
> Voice over
>
>
> "And then I saw him with a young girl who was up against
> the lockers like this. And Dutroux, who was in front of
> her with his hands all over her like this."
>
>
> So I grabbed him and pulled him back and brought him
> over here. At that moment my father-in-law turned up
> and when he found out what was happening he wanted to
> hit him. So I grabbed his arm, otherwise he would have
> punched him."
>
>
> Frenkiel
>
>
> When she wasn't skating Christine Van Hees used to
> spend time in the building of a pirate radio station. It
> belonged to Jean Michel Nihoul.
>
>
> Both men, Dutroux and Nihoul, were at Christine Van
> Hees's murder, according to Regina Louf.
>
>
> And Dutroux was involved in the murder?
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "He watched it and he didn't do something, anything and
> also he abused her that night, so, yes, he was involved."
>
>
> How many people were there?
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "I still don't know for sure. But around eight."
>
>
> Nihoul, Dutroux?
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "And a lot of others. So. But everybody except Dutroux
> is free."
>
>
> Oenka Frenkiel
> Nihoul denied it. But her testimony was dynamite. If
> true, it meant Dutroux and Nihoul were linked with
> another murder. But then out of the blue the
> investigation was stopped.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "We received a message that we couldn't investigate
> anymore just like that. We were sent home. Just like
> that, without an explanation because our work hadn't
> been done all right. Very strange."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Why were you taken off this case?
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "I wish I knew. Perhaps we were touching something we,
> we couldn't touch. Some people say this, we didn't have
> the proof at that moment to say things like that but
> perhaps we were coming closer to some things, yeah,
> perhaps."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Like what things?
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> I don't know, something Belgium or the world shouldn't
> know about.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Patric De Baets, the head of Hoskens' team, had been one
> of Belgium's most respected police investigators. It was
> he who'd taken Regina's testimony. Now he too was sent
> home, accused of manipulating her evidence.
>
>
> Patric De Baets, who questioned her, was accused of
> planting some of the information so that she would
> reproduce it. You watched that investigation. Was that
> true?
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> No, no way. No way. We even had some magistrates,
> judges and superior gendarmerie officers watching how
> we interviewed and they watched it from the first to the
> last moment and if we did, hadn't done it right at that
> time, they should have said to us, don't work that way.
> But they didn't tell us anything.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> For De Baets and his colleagues, charged with
> manipulating an enquiry, a Kafkaesque battle now began
> to clear their names.
>
>
> They were suspended and Regina Louf got a call from a
> member of the new team assigned in their place. His
> motive was clear.
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "He said well, we have to search for mistakes you made
> now and you have to prove now that you were right. I
> said no, I don't have to prove that I'm right. You have to
> investigate if I'm right or not. I'm not a police officer, I
> can't do house search and I can't interrogate my abusers,
> you have to do that. I just can tell my story and, and
> make testimony, that's all I can do. He said wrong, you
> have to prove it."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> News about Regina's story began to leak out.
>
>
> When the media took it up, it was to destroy her.
>
>
> Voice over
> Subtitles
>
>
> "X-1 and her fantasies -
> an investigation beyond the real."
>
>
> Presenter
> Madame, Monsieur, bonsoir...
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> The flagship programme of the government funded
> French language channel was unequivocal. De Baets was
> guilty they declared and Regain Louf, a sinister and
> deranged liar.
>
>
> Claude Eerdekens
> Voice over
>
>
> I think Regina Louf is a pathological liar. She's a
> woman who's invented scenarios that don't stand up to
> scrutiny. It's all been shown to be fiction.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Well no, not according to the investigators who were
> sacked. They don't agree with you, they say they weren't
> even allowed to investigate.
>
>
> Claude Eerdekens
> Voice over
>
>
> No, that's not accurate. I continue to believe these men
> did not do their jobs properly and that they let the public
> think that what Regina Louf and the other anonymous
> witnesses said was partly true. That's all a tissue of lies,
> stories verging on the pornographic. They make no
> sense.
>
>
> Oenka Frenkiel
> Weren't you manipulated? I mean people have said she
> was completely mad; she invented the whole thing.
>
>
> Rudy Hoskens
> "Well some people fear, some people say this but they
> weren't there. We lived all the testimonies, we've seen
> them, we did the investigations. So, for ourselves, we
> know what should have been right or what could have
> been wrong. But when you don't, when you haven't
> lived it, when you haven't seen everything, you can't give
> an opinion on this, it's impossible. But we found some
> things that should have been investigated more."
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "I am married for thirteen years, I have four children, I live
> a normal life. I have a business of my own so I am not
> crazy. We are labelled as crazy, we have a stigma, we are
> stigmatised as crazy persons because we had the courage
> to talk about things that happened in our past. With
> person who played a role in the Belgian economy or
> politics or something like that. It was easier to make us
> crazy than to believe us."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Despite its earlier investigating zeal, Belgium's
> parliament now stood by as Regina Louf's testimony was
> declared worthless. The judiciary announced it would
> not be used in any trial.
>
>
> Snf that might have been the end of it had the files of the
> entire Dutroux investigation not been leaked.
>
>
> Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck and two other investigative
> journalists had access to every witness statement, every
> police report in the Dutroux affair.
>
>
> Their book on Belgium's X-Files shook the country.
>
>
> Frenkiel
> How did you get the information for the book?
>
>
> Aston
> MARIE-JEANNE VAN
> HEESWYCK
> Journalist
> "We had the opportunity to see the whole police file on
> the, the affair and the problem is that we wanted to be
> sure that there was no manipulation between, behind that
> because it's, it's always possible. So, we decided to meet
> a lot of people who were named in the files, who were
> witnesses in the file. And we met those people, without
> saying that, what we knew already. And we listened to
> their story."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> They found the new team had rewritten Regina Louf's
> original statements. Testimony had been changed.
>
>
> Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck
> "We began to check it. And we began to read again all the
> questioning of Regina Louf to see how they did that,
> rewrite it. And one by one we discovered that the
> gendarmes, police of De Baets, had pretended that De
> Baets manipulate, had manipulated the investigation. So
> everybody was tricked."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> To this day no evidence has ever been produced to
> support the allegations against De Baets. Yet he
> continues to be accused.
>
>
> I met him and his colleague in a Brussels caf�.
>
>
> Their careers are in ruins and the investigation into
> Regina's story is dead. And yet two separate inquires,
> cleared them of every charge that they manipulated her
> testimony.
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> "I show you the final report of the internal inquiry of the
> gendarmerie. It was made twenty-sixth June 2000."
>
>
> Frenkiel
> So what does this mean?
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> "That I'm not a bad policeman."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> But now that's cleared you, you face new, new charges,
> new allegations, new accusations against you.
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid of that because I know the
> conclusions will be the same.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> But why this constant barrage of accusations?
>
>
> Patric De Baets
> I don't know. I can imagination things but I can't explain
> them.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> For six years the parents of the murdered girls have
> grappled with the inexplicable. Why were their
> daughters left to die? Why has Dutroux never come to
> trial and why has every lead that might have revealed a
> network behind Dutroux been blocked or ignored?
>
>
> But Belgium's lost interest in their struggle. Today
> anyone who talks of a network, even the parents, is
> dismissed as deranged.
>
>
> Paul Marchal
> I talked in press about children who were raped and so on
> and they started again with saying that I'm a little bit
> foolish and that I'm fantasising. I'm sure that in several
> years everyone will believe that networks will exist then
> they have to accept.
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Since Marc Dutroux's arrest anyone who's questioned
> the official line has been attacked. Every lead that might
> have widened the net has hit the buffers.
>
>
> Dutroux meanwhile has sat in jail. But outside, in the
> shadowy circles in which he moved, potential witnesses
> in the Dutroux affair have died in strange ways.
>
>
> A police informer with links to the Charleroi underworld,
> Jose Steppe, told a journalist he had explosive
> information on Dutroux. Two days before they were due
> to meet he died. His family believes he was poisoned.
>
>
> Jean Paul Tamino was up to his neck in the Charleroi
> underworld of stolen cars and prostitution. He was
> summoned to see the Charleroi police and disappeared.
> The day of Dutroux's arrest his foot was fished out of the
> canal.
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "It's quite a coincidence that they die just before they want
> to testify, you know, that's strange."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Social worker, Gina Pardaens worked with abused
> children. She'd identified the paedophile members of a
> pornography ring who'd threatened her. When she
> reported the threat to the police she was killed in an
> unexplained car crash.
>
>
> Francois Reyskens told a friend he'd seen one of the
> missing girls, Melissa, alive in Holland. Before he could
> tell the police his body was found crushed on the railway
> line. (sound of Train).
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Some twenty people, all potential witnesses in the
> Dutroux affair, have died in mysterious circumstances.
> Regina Louf
> "I survived it all, I don't know why. I survived my
> abusers, I survived my testimony just because I said it all.
> Why kill me now, you know, I'm mad."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> An uneasy peace has returned to Belgium. The streets
> are calm; the danger of insurrection has passed.
> The paedophile networks persist. Sometimes there are
> even arrests. Earlier this year nineteen men from one
> village were charged with child rape.
>
>
> But the Dutroux affair has paralysed Belgium's judiciary.
> After six years in jail, there is still no date for his trial.
> When it comes, it will satisfy no one.
>
>
> Paul Marchal
> The trial of Dutroux, it will be a theatre, circus and I
> don't want to be part of a circus. The truth is that there is
> a network and that they have to search for that network so
> that you can save other children in the future.
>
>
> Carine Russo
> Voice over
>
>
> "In this country we will never get to the truth. There is
> just too much truth that needs to be exposed. I am
> certain that the people want to understand; they are
> capable of understanding a lot more than the politicians
> and judiciary want to tell them. They treat the public like
> children."
>
>
> Regina Louf
> "I did what I could do. I testified, I spoke up to the police,
> to the judges, I spoke up to the press, you know, I yelled
> it out. What can I do anymore now, I can't."
>
>
> Olenka Frenkiel
> Children continue to go missing in Belgium. Dutroux's
> arrest has made no difference. Last year it was more than
> two thousand.
> Fifty-two of those cases remain unsolved.
>
>
> Voice over
> Olenka Frenkiel is live on-line now. Express your
> opinions and e-mail her your questions at:
>
>
> www.bbc.co.uk/correspondent
>
>
> Reporter
> OLENKA FRENKIEL
> ****************
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------��-----
>
>
>
> http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=203148388
>
>
> Latest on Canadian Pig Farmer, Robert Pickton's Serial Murder Trial:
> Judge Steps Down
> Published on Thursday, June 02, 2005 | Author MORRIS, Nick.
>
>
> Justice Geoffrey Barrow of British Columbia Supreme Court, the judge
> that was scheduled to preside over Canada's most prolific murder case
> was replaced Wednesday just days into pre-trial proceedings.
>
>
> Justice Barrow is stepping down from the trial of Robert Pickton, who
> stands accused of at least 22 murders and is believed to be Canada's
> most prolific serial killer.
>
>
> Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm informed lawyers at a short
> hearing that Justice Barrow cannot hear the case due to "scheduling
> problems."
>
>
> Dohm said he'll be replaced by Justice James Williams, who normally
> sits in New Westminster's Supreme Court.
>
>
> Pickton watched the events unfold as he appeared via a video link from
> the pre-trial centre, where he is currently incarcerated. Dressed in a
> black and grey shirt, he passively observed the scene in the courtroom.
>
>
>
> Pickton viewed proceedings via video link.
> Pickton viewed proceedings via video link. (?AP)
>
>
> Justice Barrow had only heard two days worth of arguments for and
> against a strict publication ban on pre-trial proceedings, that has
> been imposed on the trial. The hearing is due to resume on Friday and
> lawyers have been informed that they will need to recap their views on
> the ban. Dohm has said "The court will not lose any real time in this
> change."
>
>
> Pickton, a pig farmer from Vancouver's Port Coquitlam district has been
>
>
>
> in custody since his arrest on 7 February 2002, following a lengthy
> search of his farm and other properties he has owned. The search
> revealed the remains of 15 bodies located on his farm.
>
>
> In January of 2004 the remains of a further 10 women were found. In
> total 31 separate traces of DNA have been found on Pickton's property.
>
>
> Most of the victims are believed to have been vulnerable women working
> in the sex-trade in Vancouver's seedy Downtown Eastside area. The first
>
>
>
> woman to go missing from the area was Rebecca Guno, a prostitute and
> drug addict, in June of 1983.
>
>
> Since her disappearance, 61 women have been reported as missing from
> the BC area. It was not until early 2002, 19 years after the first
> woman vanished, that police made any charges in connection with any of
> the disappearances.
>
>
> After a few months of searching Pickton's pig farm, police charged him
> with seven counts of murder. In September and October of 2002 he was
> charged with a further eight counts of murder, following the discovery
> of yet more remains on his property. DNA traces of another victim were
> discovered on 9 January 2003, just days before Pickton's 13 January
> pre-trial, but officers announced that they would not be adding any
> further charges until afterwards, fearing that it would cause lengthy
> delays to the case.
>
>
> Crown prosecutor Mike Petrie and Pickton's defence lawyer Peter Ritchie
>
>
>
> would not comment on the reasons behind the switch of judges and how
> they felt about it, but the public opinion is one of surprise. Many
> feel that problems such as scheduling should have been considered
> before the preliminary hearing began. The general consensus was that
> the trial would continue into next year.
>
>
> Justice James Williams will preside over the restarted preliminary
> hearing when it starts this Friday.
> ********************
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------��-----
>
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yxbp83
>
>
> 'On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been
> ground up and mixed with pork from the farm.
> This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to
> friends and visitors of the farm.'
> *************
> the way this system operates is that key people are put in key places.
> For example
>
>
> Republican (so-called conservative) Congressman Mark Foley was revealed
>
>
>
> to be aggressively gay in pursuit of male teenagers and youth working
> as pages in the house.
> Then we find that he was placed in positions to influence policy
> in certain ways:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yx269u
> 'Foley played a leadership role on AIDS issues, supported the
> Employment Not-Discrimination Act, opposed anti-gay provisions of
> faith-based legislation, and voted against the Federal Marriage
> Amendment.
> He also co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's
> Caucus and helped to write much of the legislation regarding
> prosecution of pedophiles and child pornographers.'
>
>
> ******************
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------��-----
>
>
>
> http://xfilescanada.spaces.live.com/blog/
>
>
> Pickton Murders
>
>
> The lawyer representing U.S. television stations said he does
> not believe the publication ban covers the Internet.
> But the stations have said they will black out transmissions
> to Canada.
> RCMP Const. Katherine Galliford said "police will be watching
> for violations of the publication ban." She goes on to say
> "And if there are any concerns that come to light we'll
> certainly investigate that further," Mentioning nothing about
> possible connections to missing children, or other serial
> killers involved in satanic cults reaching at least from
> Mission to Vancouver. She makes no comment that the police
> have stood down their watch on the Vancouver East Side.
>
>
> In May 2005, Crown attorneys added 12 more first-degree murder
> charges against Pickton, bringing the grim total to 27.
> Rebecca Guno, a drug addict and prostitute, vanished from
> Vancouver's downtown eastside in June 1983. Her name was the
> first of 61 that would eventually be placed on the list of
> women to disappear mysteriously from the drug-infested area
> over the two decades that followed.
> It wasn't until 19 years later, early in 2002, that charges
> were laid in any of the cases. The charges came not long after
> police focused their efforts on a farm in Port Coquitlam,
> outside Vancouver. Dozens of officers scoured the farm in
> search of evidence.
> Within months, the owner of that farm, 53-year-old Robert
> William Pickton, would face seven murder charges.
> September 1998: - Vancouver police set up a team to review
> files of up to 40 women missing as far back as 1971. One
> tracked down, deaths of two others from illeness, overdose,
> confirmed but no trace of many others.
> In July 2002, police made a plea for the public's help in
> locating nine more missing women, and said that if they cannot
> be found, their names will be added to the list of 54 other
> women who are missing.
> In the spring of 1999, two Vancouver detectives teamed up with
> two RCMP detectives to review the file pertaining to the 31
> missing women. In August of that year police began
> investigating an account by a woman, not a prostitute, who
> said that a man snatched her from the stairwell of a hotel in
> Vancouver's downtown eastside. The woman jumped from her
> captor's moving vehicle to escape.
> Accusations that police haven't done enough reached a fever
> pitch when former detective and geographic profiler Kim Rossmo
> claimed he told police that a serial killer was at work in the
> Vancouver area and was ignored. Rossmo said that
> disappearances from the neighborhood were normal, but that the
> number of incidents was abnormally high between 1995 and 1998.
>
>
> "If these activities go back to, say, 1995, seven years ago,
> some of (the victims) could be buried fairly deep," says
> former Vancouver police officer Kim Rossmo, an expert in
> serial killers. Contrary to his earlier statment for some
> unknown reason, he later says,"Now, one factor to the benefit
> of the police is criminals are lazy, so they're not going to
> be 40 feet below the surface,"
> Rossmo, who sued the Vancouver department for wrongful
> dismissal when they failed to renew his contract, claimed that
> a single predator was responsible for killing prostitutes in
> downtown Vancouver. The Vancouver department dismissed his
> claims as sour grapes.
>
>
> In 1998 I was introduced to Willy Pickton by a local Freemason
>
>
> West Baker. "Be careful, not everyone that has gone down that
>
>
> road has come back" was the ominous warning he gave me, he
>
>
> also warned me to stay out of the pig barn after 11:00 pm, or
>
>
> I would be horrified at what I saw, as Willy liked to butcher
>
>
> all different kinds of animals, in all different ways, like a
>
>
> Nazi doctor experimenting on Jews might. At first it seemed
>
>
> there was very little out of the ordinary, except the saturday
>
>
> "cock fights", and the all night orgies and strange foods at
>
>
> "Piggies Palace" however, after the news broke in 2002, creepy
>
>
> things just outside of my awareness started to make a whole
>
>
> lot more sense, and I, having done business there, was
>
>
> publicly requested to give a statment to the police. So I
>
>
> attended a series of interviews with the police "Missing
>
>
> women's task force" regarding the matter and submitted my dna
>
>
> sample as requested, spent hours under the lights and camera,
>
>
> almost as if I was on the spot. I was assured my dna would
>
>
> only be used in this case, I found this to be untrue, much
>
>
> later. I noticed something strange about the whole thing
>
>
> though. Appathy. They didn't seem to care about the
>
>
> implications of what I said, they were more interested in what
>
>
> I knew, they didn't seem to have the humanity, they were
>
>
> strangly detached, so I tested them a little, and found them
>
>
> not interested in the victims, or the truth behind the
>
>
> implications. I suggested, perhapse they start a missing
>
>
> children's task force, they thought that was funny, their
>
>
> micro expressions gave that away, though they didn't laugh.
>
>
> All of a sudden, it dawned on me, their in on it, the
>
>
> vancouver police were rounding them up, and Willy Pickton who
>
>
> dealt with them on a weekly basis, (he had an inside track on
>
>
> abandoned vehicles), was getting another cleanup contract, all
>
>
> the girls who were robbing the other drug addicts, instead of
>
>
> normal citizens, and were unable to re-pay their dealers, and
>
>
> had deteriorated (look at their faces) to a point as to be
>
>
> useless as prostitutes, were flaged by the Hell's Angels.
>
>
> Delivered to the farm in abandoned vehicles, and proccessed by
>
>
> Willy who was a mechanic, and a butcher. I realised the
>
>
> taskforce was compromised some how, so I pretended to still be
>
>
> their friend, and conducted my own investigation. As my own
>
>
> investigations, and "interviews" later revieled, the victim's
>
>
> thyroid glands, adrenaline glands, and other "Delacacies" were
>
>
> extracted from the dead, or sometimes still living beings,
>
>
> before the rest was put through a wood chipper, and fed to the
>
>
> "Piggies" Willy called them. Before the Media Ban, the Mayor
>
>
> of Port Coquitlam admitted to dining at a farm also owned by
>
>
> the Picktons, just down the road from Dominion St, there is an
>
>
> ominous quancet, on Burns Road the infamous "Piggies Palace".
>
>
> There were blood rituals there, adrenaline glands as
>
>
> appatizers, next to the cocaine dishes, during an all night
>
>
> orgy, the girls not yet ready to be served were kept captive
>
>
> at another location, and brought out as they were needed, for
>
>
> what ever purpose...so... here I am, kind of the odd man out
>
>
> so to speak, surrounded by vampyres, from dusk till dawn, so
>
>
> to speak with no real idea what was going on until much later.
>
>
> Politicans connected to Hell's Angels, connected to free
>
>
> Masons, oddfellows, illuminati, witches, warlocks, satanists,
>
>
> police, my "friends". Judges that put the media ban on this
>
>
> are in league with them as well too, Conrad Black owns all of
>
>
> our media, is a buildiberger. It would seem that these secret
>
>
> societies run our whole world, and they eat us too. Well, I
>
>
> really didn't expect to find this but I did. After the horror
>
>
> I saw, it will be a release if they come to kill me, cause I
>
>
> havn't even got to the best part yet, the tunnels. More of the
>
>
> missing woman and children should be found in the old train
>
>
> tunnels of New Westminster, than run deep underground to
>
>
> vancouver and to coquitlam, where they are blood fed, and put
>
>
> to use as required, people often hear them under the city, in
>
>
> the sewers, and under the stores along Front St. women
>
>
> sobbing, children crying, they are believed to be ghosts when
>
>
> heard, so people back track real quick, and never made the
>
>
> true discovery yet, but I did. Take a walk in the old
>
>
> abandoned train tunnel at waterfront station in Vancouver if
>
>
> you want to meet them. Most of those people are no longer
>
>
> people anymore, they would kill a person who tryed to save
>
>
> them, like a cat raised in an apartment, they would run from
>
>
> an open door to freedom. The royal engineers from old
> Westminster in England, brought these tunneling practices from
>
>
> their country over here, as well as their secret societies,
>
>
> and did their merlin black magic rituals with them.
> Some of those people in the tunnels, have been born and raised
>
>
> there, and they eat their dead. I just don't think social
>
>
> services can handle that kind of rehabilitation, I don't know
>
>
> just what we should do, it would appear if you follow the
>
>
> traces, back through the Freemasons and such...I bet even the
>
>
> Queen is blood fed...no wonder heaven won't help us. Somehow
>
>
> Dave pickton got the contract to demolish and excavate
>
>
> Woodlands Insane Assylum, fitting, he has experience
>
>
> excavating mass unmarked graves, who else would the city of
>
>
> New Westmonster call. Did you ever wonder where all of those
>
>
> in-patients from RiverView and Woodlands went?? They did't
>
>
> just release 500 insane people... did they? P and B Used
>
>
> Building Supplies, and P and B Salvage are just two of the
>
>
> companies owned by Dave and family. I heard another recent
>
>
> little tid bit from the Pickton's self proclaimed "good
>
>
> friend" of 25 years, West Baker, who runs the surplus store
>
>
> 623 front street, New Westminster, who has 200 institutional
>
>
> meal trays in his back store-room (for some reason), and an
>
>
> access tunnel to the underground cattacombs of New West, who
>
>
> has strong connections (sells them explosives such as live
>
>
> grenades) with local Nazi activists, (Dale you know who you
>
>
> are) who also lives commonlaw with Kathy Arcand, Dave
>
>
> Pickton's Ex-Goulfriend. West claimes that Willy Pickton owns
>
>
> all the land that the Picktons still hold, they just switched
>
>
> around the titles and holdings, and the fun loving Willy is
>
>
> ripping us tax payers off for a team of lawyers that he
>
>
> doesn't pay for, so when they all help him get away with it
>
>
> too, like they did when he went to trial in 1994 for stabbing
>
>
> a prostitute in the back several times, she managed the knife
>
>
> away from him and slit his throat in self defence, so he got
>
>
> off... So i'ts business as usual, Dave wont even speak to
>
>
> Willy, because he doesn't want to blow their cover. Dave goes
>
>
> to Sturges, where they make their plans for September... As
>
>
> for this going on elseware, I think all the world should check
>
>
> very carefully for strange things in the cattacombs and
>
>
> tunnels of their cities, you never know, there could be
>
>
> someones loved one there, waiting for the light of day.
> ****************
> check out the blood-drinker headed down into what could be
> one of North Korea's tunnels:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yldqb8
>
>
> this brief segment of street-level surveillance video of street-goers
> was
> shot in one of North Korea's occult power centers, all shot within
> close proximity of oneanother (area dominated by massive masonic
> obelisk monument) over the course of one morning.
> a bureaucratic office complex area infested with military police and
> what appear to be bureaucrats.
>
>
> (the person is pale, with a red scarf, and a white shirt stained with
> blood)
>
>
> ************
>
>
> for an idea of how crazy things can get watch The Clinton Chronicles:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3251077391435895140&q=clinton...
>
>
>
> ************
>
>
> Hells Angels
>
>
> The Hells Angels actually have a direct connection & origin with Skull
> n' Bones.
>
>
> It might seem bizarre but here it is:
>
>
> The Hells Angels in the early days were made up in large part of
> Vietnam War veterans, who brought back with them their penchant for
> opium trafficking. There was a huge illicit drug trade component to the
>
>
>
> Korean and Vietnamese wars. A good Hollywood film about this is the
> film Air America starring Mel Gibson (1990) about the CIA's private
> airline, and their drug smuggling operations in Cambodia (CIA sold
> drugs and guns in Laos during the Vietnam War to finance its secret
> operations in SouthEast asia)
> Anyway, there are some who say the Vietnam War was exactly what JFK
> thought it was and tried to prevent: an unecessary war that turned out
> to be nothing more than a gigantic arms dealer / drug lord scam foisted
>
>
>
> on the American people. The war meant tens of billions to American gun,
>
>
>
> armaments, chemical weapons, and munitions dealers, not to mention drug
>
>
>
> lords, and when JFK threatened to disband the CIA and cease their plans
>
>
>
> for the war in Vietnam, it was one of the reasons that the CIA
> assassinated JFK.
> watch JFKII on Google video for an excellent recap of why JFK was
> killed and who did it.
> Anyway, the Hells Angels was composed largely of 'retired' and
> drug-addicted Vietnam-era CIA operatives and cocaine-snorting war
> veterans.(burnouts) who had lived their entire careers /lives
> outside/above the law during their varous oversees and domestic
> adventures. They were not a very pleasant group of people . George Bush
>
>
>
> Senior and his CIA skull n' Bones clan assassinated JFK & launched the
> Vietnam War under Lyndon B. Johnson. The Hells Angels have always been
> a distribution conduit/network for illegal drugs imported by the CIA
> into NA. (Guess they were sick of letting the Italian mafiosos make all
>
>
>
> the money! so they let their fellow Bonesmen's friends and CIA running
> dogs take over a lot of the street traffic.
> So, now you know why the Angels always seem to be connected with this
> occult stuff. They are called 'Hells'' Angels for a reason, you know!
> To get up to speed on the whole JFK thing watch the following
> film online here: http://tinyurl.com/yfja2y JFK II
>
>
> and also rent Oliver Stone's 1991 film 'JFK', starring Kevin Costner as
>
>
>
> chief prosecutor .
>
>
> I have little doubt now that many of these 'serial murders' throughout
> the christian world, are actually ritual rapes and blood-drinkings and
> burnings carried out by Skull n' Bones -type cults, involving
> essentially the most dangerous and brazen and deadly people in the
> world: the Secret Services and Intellegencia at the pinnacle of the
> world's political and economic elite..
> It could be that these bodies are being discarded from flying planes in
>
>
>
> the same that these planes do regular drug drops.
>
>
> actually my background on the Hell's Angels was not quite accurate, in
> that it implied that the Hell's Angels formed only after the Vietnam
> War.
> The gang actually had its roots from the Korean war, because a big part
>
>
>
> of the CIA role in the wars in both Korea and Vietnam were about
> trading guns for drugs. Exporting guns to SouthEast asia, to BOTH
> sides, often in exchange for drugs to be brought back to the U.S. via
> Air America, the CIA's unofficial airforce. After all, how are you
> going to start a profitable war in Asia, selling guns to both sides, if
>
>
>
> a lot of people cannot even afford to buy your guns? The solution was
> to trade guns for drugs, to link up with the drug mafias in Asia. Fly
> tons of guns and ammunition into S.E. Asia, and on the same planes fly
> back tons of drugs , (cocaine and heroine and hashish you name it) into
>
>
>
> the United States. (usually the west coast, which is part of the reason
>
>
>
> LeftCoast Lotusland has its reputation as a druggie haven)
> The CIA needed a conduit for taking delivery of the drugs in the U.S. ,
>
>
>
> and this is where the Hells Angels had their beginnings.
> Even the corpses of returning Vietnam War soldiers were packed with
> heroine and cocaine.
>
>
> When the Vietnam War ended, the CIA started up their adventures in
> South America, mainly because that was their business, and the end of
> the Vietnam War meant they needed a new gig. Their business was and is
> to start wars in drug-producing regions, and trade armaments for drugs
> to be imported into the U.S. and other countries.
>
>
> I am sure there were more than a few incidents of bikers and mafia
> harrassing or ordering hits on Vietnam War protesters and peace
> activists.
>
>
> Anyway, the same pattern has continued to this day.
> The opium production of Afghanistan has tripled since the U.S. invaded
> in 2001. My guess is that the heroine trade from Florida and New
> Orleans, north to New York is flourishing,
> as that is a likely conduit point for the drugs coming out of the
> Middle East.
>
>
> *****************
> Ted Gunderson and the CIA's International Trafficking in Children
>
>
> Former head of FBI Ted Gunderson exposes a pedphile network run by the
> CIA for satanic purposes.
>
>
> watch online:
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ujghu
> ****************
> "The Ted Gunderson Files"
>
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/tg/
>
>
> Haven't had time to go through all of them, but am linking directly to
> Gunderson's article on the abduction/disappearance of Johnny Gosch:
>
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/tg/goschcradiointerview19aug03.shtml
>
>
> and, still regarding Johnny Gosch with pics of the boys:
>
>
> from http://www.johnnygosch.com/
>
>
> **********
>
>
> am placing the Johnny Gosch abduction info here as a theory that
> relates to the sex industry and organized crime.
>
>
> The recent possibility/belief that journalist Jeff Gannon is Johnny
> Gosch, coincides with the suicide(??) of Hunter S. Thompson:
>
>
> http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml
>
>
>
> Gonzo journalist, Hunter Thompson wrote a book called "The Strange and
> Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs" which chronicled his
> living and riding with the HA in California. Paul Banacci (who admits
> to having originally abducted Johnny Gosch) maintains that Hunter
> Thompson was the camera man involved in a snuff movie made while
> Banacci was involved with the pedophile ring that Johnny Gosch was
> abducted into.
>
>
> am convinced that we have now found generally who is doing the
> majority of these things.
>
>
> Most of the prostitution surrounds 'procurement' activities. Sometimes
> it is young guys approached by older guys/richer guys "Get me some
> drugs. get me some girls."(the younger the pimp, the younger the girls
> he has access to , so some of the real young guys going missing are
> probably small time drug pushers and pimps who have done business with
> the wrong people and need to be shut up. Maybe somewhere along there
> someone decided that gang 'hits' on people should actually be
> profitable for the gang. Why just take someone out in a mob hit when
> that person can actually be sold and then killed.)
>
>
> These rich bastards get more sadistic. They are used to getting what
> they want, when they want, and doing whatever they lwant to whoever
> they want to do it to. So when they watch the porn, the VERY hard
> stuff, they want more, then they want it made to order, then they want
> the real thing. They ask around . They find a circle of people into it.
>
>
>
> Girls who will be hurt for money. From there, they find
> their way into the real monsters, the people who pay big money to kill
> the girl's babies, drink their blood. Some girls think its a good way
> to make drug money. Some have pimps or gangs push them into it, further
>
>
>
> and further and further along. They can get girsl who ran away from
> home at 13, spent a year in Jamaica, her pimps are moving her around.
> They go where the money is. If there is a Superbowl or an Olympics or a
>
>
>
> World Series or a big Stones gig, anything big and decadent that
> attracts money, they want to be there with the young young young girls.
>
>
>
> Thes eguys get connected. They collect girls like ranchers collect
> horses, keep small groups of fed and groomed women addicted to drugs
> working for them. The money in this is huge. These girls fry their
> brains on drugs, forget who they are, where they are, even which city
> or country they are in. They appear in porn flicks. They get tied and
> whipped, locked in boxes, hung from ropes . Then they go back to the
> hotel room.Then one night they get taken to someone who takes it all
> the way , and they get tortured to death or burned alive. And their
> owner gets a great big cash deposit into a new account that someone
> gave them a password for the previous week. $200,000.
> Welcome to the world of the ultra rich, the CIA , secret service, high
> society adventure boys. They believe in living life as though it is one
>
>
>
> big movie set.
> Someone real high up has a lot of power. Their group is expanding ,
> they manipulate things to make sure their choice for mayor or police
> chief gets in, and competitors get destroyed. The money flows.
> The bottom line is , this stuff is the the ultimate luxury. It takes
> money.
> Rich criminals. Rich period, are into this.
> This is the anything goes world of the ultra rich, the Bushes, theCIA
> adv Then these groups get addicted to it. they grow. They need more
> girls.
> Rich gays and pedophiles get into it. More and more people start
> disappearing. Young men, children.The Hells angels are all ex- CIA drug
>
>
>
> addicts and sadists who have lost it . The rich have private security,
> private investigators, many of them ex police officers,ex marines, ex
> CIA or CSIS or MI6 agents. They build up little private armies of these
>
>
>
> people, and these people have friends. Soldiers, bikers, dealers,
> pimps, mob contacts.
> They help out. They have contacts in the govt.,police dept., coroner's
> office. Investigations are shut down, people reassigned, people have
> little 'accidents', people 'commit suicide' at surprising times. The
> police start to give up.
> The killings become more frequent, and the cults less selective about
> their victims. Less careful, less demanding. So then just about anyone
> will do as a victim, anyone who won't go missed , whose disappearance
> won't be notable, who will not be protected, and who is considered
> generally useless.
>
>
> You want to find your killers, follow the money. Most of this is about
> drugs and occult and pimping and total depravity.
>
>
> Well, basically we have it all figured out now.
> I think we now know what is generally happening to the majority of
> these missing people. They 'disappear ' for a few days, then their
> bodies
> are found. The people taking them often work for various CIA
> operations, CIA-connected biker gangs
> and organized crime networks.
>
>
> Listen to this excellent internet radio show
> the Alex Jones show:
>
>
> (you have to realize that what he is saying is true. Most will not
> believe
> it because it is so incredible, but once you start checking it all out,
>
>
>
> everything, absolutley EVERYTHING, he is saying on his daily radio show
>
>
>
> is true. He has grown so popular that this show is broadcast on over
> 100 public AM and FM radio stations across the United States.)
>
>
> click here to listen:
> http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls
>
>
> Here is one more of Alex Jones videos:
>
>
> Order of Death
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/hy7t9
>
>
> ***********
>
>
> Check out this information on the cult killings in Burgundy, France (a
> medievil village full of ancient castles, including some owned the
> Rothschild family)
>
>
> This case began with the 1991 discovery of imprisoned and tortured
> slaves, led to the discovery of several buried bodies, and involved
> emerging evidence of a network that had killed possibly hundreds of
> people.
> It also featured a massive coverup, a deluge of destroyed evidence,
> compromised judges, an investigator murdered. Sound familiar?)
>
>
> http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/auxerre/index.html
>
>
>
> Joanna
>
>
> On the morning of May 17, 1990, Patrice Bardot, an unemployed dustman,
> traveled from his home in the French village of Monteau to the nearby
> Yonne River for a day of fishing. Not long after he arrived he noticed
> something floating in the water. Initially, he believed it was a
> bobbing barrel, but as he drew nearer he was shocked to realize it was
> a nude human body.
>
>
> Bardot immediately flagged down a woman jogging on a nearby path and
> alerted her of the gruesome find. The jogger then ran toward a caf?,
> where the police were called. The authorities soon arrived and
> conducted what would later be considered a terribly bungled
> investigation.
>
>
> The police cornered off a small section of land close to where the body
>
>
>
> was found and began searching for clues. However, investigators ignored
>
>
>
> a large portion of the surrounding area, most of which had been
> trampled by police, emergency personnel, onlookers and vehicles.
> According to an Expatica.com article by Graham Tearse, the secured area
>
>
>
> was "released to the public just several hours later" and the following
>
>
>
> day it was further trampled by children on a field trip. Had there been
>
>
>
> any evidence, it was likely lost from the contamination of the crime
> scene.
>
>
> The body was withdrawn from the river and taken to a nearby hospital
> for identification and autopsy. The woman was identified as 20-year-old
>
>
>
> Joanna Parrish, who was from Gloucestershire, England. Joanna was
> enrolled in a modern languages work/study program at Leeds University
> and took a position as an assistant English teacher at a secondary
> school in the nearby town of Auxerre. She was working on a bachelor's
> degree in modern languages at Leeds University. At the time of her
> death she was only one week away from completing her posting.
>
>
> An autopsy revealed that Joanna had been drugged, tied up, raped,
> beaten and strangled before being dumped into the river. It was
> suspected that her body had been in the water only several hours prior
> to it being found. Even though the body was discarded in broad
> daylight, police were unable to find any witnesses. They believed that
> whoever murdered Joanna was probably familiar with the area and could
> have even resided in the immediate vicinity. Yet, police were unable to
>
>
>
> produce any suspects.
>
>
> According to Tearse, Joanna had a friend named Janet visiting from
> Canada around the time of her death. Janet claimed that Joanna placed
> an advertisement in a local newspaper offering English lessons. She
> planned to use the money to fund a holiday trip with her fianc?e.
>
>
> Investigators learned that a local man responded to Joanna's ad by
> phone and was interested in hiring her to teach his teenage son. They
> made arrangements to meet at 7 p.m. on May 16 at the town's square in
> Auxerre. Tearse suggested that on that day, Janet joined Joanna on her
> trip into town and they walked around for a while before they separated
>
>
>
> at about 6:30 pm.
>
>
> Joanna went to meet the man at the town square. It was the last time
> Janet ever saw her again. Tearse said that Joanna never told Janet the
> name of the man she was planning to meet.
>
>
> Several weeks after her body was discovered, Joanna was buried in
> Gloucestershire. Her parents, Roger and Pauline, went to Auxerre and
> hired a lawyer to assist them in their gaining access to information
> concerning the case from the magistrate and the police detectives. They
>
>
>
> wanted to closely follow the investigation, hoping that it would
> eventually lead to the apprehension of their daughter's murderer. Their
>
>
>
> expectations were quickly shattered when they realized how inadequately
>
>
>
> the case was being handled.
>
>
> At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder
>
>
>
> was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and
>
>
>
> disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly
> mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that
> high-level officials were trying to cover-up the fact that Burgundy had
>
>
>
> an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was
> something that could not be hidden for long.
>
>
> Negligence
>
>
> The investigation into Joanna's death was bungled from the beginning.
> The crime scene was turned into a forensic disaster. Moreover, much of
> the information gathered during the investigation was kept from
> Joanna's family, who desperately tried to learn what advances were
> being made in the case.
>
>
> Tearse suggested that during a British inquest into Joanna's murder,
> critical evidence was discovered that was ignored or overlooked by
> French coroners. He claimed that a second autopsy, conducted by the
> British, revealed several bite marks on Joanna's body. From a forensic
> standpoint, bite marks are vital clues that can reveal information
> about the killer because teeth, bite and jaw formations are
> individually unique and can be easily matched. The revelation shocked
> Joanna's parents who couldn't comprehend how something so obvious and
> important could have gone unnoticed.
>
>
> During the autopsy, medical examiners were able to obtain sperm
> samples. It took two years for the samples to be analyzed, but the
> results led to a genetic print. The DNA evidence was one of the biggest
>
>
>
> clues in the investigation and Roger and Pauline hoped that it would
> lead investigators to the killer. However, they were not so fortunate.
>
>
> Tearse said, "investigators refused to call for voluntary DNA tests of
> the local male population and continued to refuse to make a media
> appeal for witnesses." It was another blow to the investigation and a
> major disappointment for Roger and Pauline. Frustrated at the
> incompetence of police, Joanna's family decided to take measures into
> their own hands.
>
>
> They family offered a reward for information into Joanna's death and
> handed out leaflets in and around Auxerre and Mon?teau. They even
> appealed to the British government for assistance. Even though they
> were unsuccessful in getting help from the British government they did
> manage to get some interesting responses to their leaflets.
>
>
> Several people called offering some information directly concerning
> Joanna's death. Roger and Pauline eagerly presented the new leads to
> the French authorities. However, for some unknown reason the
> investigators failed to pursue the tips.
>
>
> Isabelle Laville, victim
> Isabelle Laville, victim
> The family members of other murdered victims in Burgundy responded to
> the leaflets. Roger and Pauline learned that three other young women,
> Isabelle Laville, 17, Danielle Bernard, 39, Sylvie Baton, 24, were
> murdered near or in Auxerre between 1987 and 1990. Their families were
> angered because they also felt as if the investigators were mishandling
>
>
>
> the cases of their deceased loved ones.
>
>
> Eventually, Roger and Pauline discovered that there were approximately
> 13 more unsolved murders and disappearances of women in the Auxerre
> area over the last 30 years. Interestingly, investigators working on
> Joanna's case never told them about the spate of murders, two of which
> occurred within months of their daughter's death.
>
>
> Roger and Pauline tried to obtain Joanna's case files so they could
> bring in outside help to assist in the investigation. However,
> investigators continued to deny them access to the documents. Even
> though it seemed as if they were battling a lost cause, they refused to
>
>
>
> give up in their search for evidence.
>
>
> Among the 17 girls missing or found murdered were seven pupils from the
>
>
>
> Medical-Educational Institute, a special needs school for handicapped
> young women in Auxerre. The girls, 16 to 22 years old, were accounted
> for in December 2000, when a former bus driver of the school made a
> startling confession. Emile Louis, 68, admitted to police that he had
> sex with the seven pupils and then murdered them sometime between 1977
> and 1979.
>
>
> When the girls first began to disappear, the police interviewed Louis
> because he was known to have a history of sex offenses. However, they
> did not pursue him for long and eventually he was disregarded as a
> potential suspect. Eventually, the cases were dropped and the girls
> were listed as runaways.
>
>
> Emile Louis, mugshot
> Emile Louis, mugshot
> Louis continued to drive female pupils to and from school. It is also
> believed that he continued to rape and kill them indiscriminately. He
> would not be looked at as a suspect for almost another two decades.
>
>
> Hugh Schofield's article Mystery of France's Missing Girls suggested
> that there were similarities between many of the cases. He quoted
> Corinne Herrmann, a French lawyer and author of the book The
> Disappeared of the Yonne, stating that the girls were either mentally
> handicapped, "or like Joanna far from home." Moreover, according to
> Stuart Jeffries 2000 article for The Observer, witnesses were able to
> place Louis near the spots where many of the victims were last seen.
>
>
> Scene where bodies found
> Scene where bodies found
> Louis was caught almost two decades later when his daughter found items
>
>
>
> in his house belonging to several of the victims. During his
> confession, Louis told authorities that he buried the girls near the
> Yonne River. Only the skeletal remains of two girls were ever
> recovered.
>
>
> Not long after his admission of guilt, Louis changed his story. He
> claimed that he was pressured into giving false testimony and that he
> actually didn't commit the murders. In a January 2002 article in The
> Guardian by Jon Henley, Louis insisted that "the girls were routinely
> abused and finally abducted and killed by a nebulous ring of men 'of
> some standing, locally and in the region." Not surprisingly, Louis'
> story was met with skepticism by local investigators.
>
>
> Louis could not be charged with the murders anyway because under French
>
>
>
> law it was considered unlawful to convict anyone of a murder 10 years
> after a crime was committed. According to Jeffries, Louis was instead
> "convicted for kidnapping, for which there is no statue of
> limitations." The authorities believed Louis could have been involved
> in some of the other murder cases, yet there was not enough evidence to
>
>
>
> convict him.
>
>
> One thing was for certain: Louis could not have been directly
> responsible for Joanna's death. At the time of her murder, he was
> serving a prison sentence for sexually assaulting a minor.
> Nevertheless, Schofield suggested that a private investigation
> conducted for 13 years by French police agent Christian Jambert, 56,
> "clearly established that Louis was linked to all the women." It was
> believed that he was affiliated with a sex ring operation that
> prostituted, abused and even murdered many girls in the region,
> possibly including Joanna.
>
>
> Christian Jambert, victim
> Christian Jambert, victim
> Initially the authorities ignored Jambert's theories, but an incident
> in 1984 led them to reconsider the idea that there was indeed a sex
> ring in the area. That January, a 19-year-old girl was found wandering
> the streets of Auxerre in a confused state. When the police picked her
> up and questioned her she claimed that she was held captive in the
> basement of a nearby house, where she was sexually abused and tortured.
>
>
>
> The girl's testimony led the police to the home of Claude and Monique
> Dunand, known friends of Emile Louis. Stuart said that when they
> searched the house, they found another girl in the cellar, "naked and
> suspended from a ladder by her wrists." He further claimed that for
> approximately 15 years, local handicapped girls were lured to the
> house, locked up, fed dog food and repeatedly raped and tortured by
> invited guests. However, there was no indication that any of the girls
> were murdered.
>
>
> Claude Dunand was eventually convicted of kidnapping and given a life
> sentence in 1991. His wife Monique received two years for accessory to
> the crimes. According to Andrew Alderson and Kim Willsher's article 'I
> Want Justice for Joanna,' Yonne crime reporter Ludovic Berger stated,
> "Claude Dunand has always said that politicians, industrialists and
> magistrates were involved but he has refused to name them." The article
>
>
>
> further suggested that a list of at least 50 clients "rumored to
> include several French 'notables' who paid to torture and abuse"
> captive girls was discovered by police and handed over to the Auxerre
> Courthouse. However, the list mysteriously disappeared from a courtroom
>
>
>
> and has never been found.
>
>
> It was not the only document that went missing. In fact, there were
> more than 100 murder and missing person case files from between 1958
> and 1982 that vanished from the courthouse. Moreover, the court ledger
> documenting the investigations also vanished. It became increasingly
> clear that someone was either trying to cover up the crimes or the
> Auxerre Courthouse had a serious management problem.
>
>
> Christian Jambert was almost certain he knew who was behind Burgundy's
> rash of murders and missing person cases, and he was convinced that
> Louis was one of the primary culprits. However, he also believed that
> Louis was only one of many involved in the crimes. Jambert kept
> meticulous notes and diaries concerning the cases, along with the
> evidence he collected over the years. In 1997, he made preparations to
> present his findings during a new inquiry. Yet, he never got the chance
>
>
>
> to reveal what he worked so hard to acquire.
>
>
> In August of that year, just several days before the inquiries were
> scheduled to begin, Jambert was found dead in the basement of his
> Auxerre home. An autopsy revealed that he died from a single gunshot
> wound to the head. Medical investigators claimed that Jambert had a
> history of depression. It was believed that his poor mental state
> prompted him to end his life. His death was listed as a suicide.
>
>
> By the late 1990s, the mounting scandal in Auxerre gained international
>
>
>
> attention. People were shocked by the negligence exhibited in the
> investigations and the fact that more than 100 files, mostly of missing
>
>
>
> women, had gone missing from Auxerre's Courthouse. According to Harry
> de Quetteville's January 2002 article in The Telegraph, the scandal was
>
>
>
> "taken so seriously in Paris that Marylise Lebranchu, the French
> justice minister, ordered a series of internal investigations."
> Joanna's murder case was one of those selected for re-examination and
> it was further linked with the inquiry into the seven girls Louis once
> claimed to have murdered.
>
>
> Not surprisingly, Joanna's parents welcomed the decision of a new
> inquiry. They waited more than a decade for her investigation to be
> reopened. BBC News Online stated that Roger, "was hopeful there would
> be progress in the investigation and the potential capture of the
> killer."
>
>
> Investigators working on the case quickly realized that there was a
> possibility someone tampered with Joanna's murder file. Witness
> statements, which were obtained at the time of her murder, were missing
>
>
>
> from her dossier. Moreover, important DNA evidence taken during the
> autopsy also disappeared from the file for more than a decade before it
>
>
>
> was found again.
>
>
> During the investigation, it was suggested that Joanne and many of the
> other girls that were murdered or missing were likely the victims of an
>
>
>
> organized sex gang operating around Auxerre. Yet, because so many of
> the facts were missing, there was not enough evidence available to
> convict anyone.
>
>
> The only exception was the case of the seven missing girls Louis
> initially claimed to have murdered before retracting his confession.
> Investigators continued to believe he was involved in their
> disappearances and murders. A re-examination of his case was ordered,
> with the hope of uncovering more evidence linking Louis or anyone else
> to the girls.
>
>
> Seven missing girls, victims
>
>
> Many in the community believed that the murder cases were deliberately
> ignored and the files stolen or destroyed because they implicated
> high-level officials. Investigators re-examining the cases determined
> that it was more likely that gross negligence on behalf of local
> magistrates was to blame for the mishandling of the cases. In all
> likelihood, it was probably a combination of both theories that
> prevented anyone from being apprehended for the crimes.
>
>
> In March 2002, four magistrates from Burgundy faced accusations of
> gross negligence in the cases of missing and murdered women in their
> region. The judges included former chief prosecutors Rene Meyer and
> Jacques Cazals and former deputy prosecutors Daniel Stilinovic and
> Bertrand Daillie. The men were ordered to appear before a panel of six
> senior judges, who would review the cases over a three-day period.
>
>
> According to a 2002 article by Susan Bell in The Scotsman, accused
> magistrate Stilinovic admitted that "there were people who allowed
> information to be stifled." He was further quoted saying "magistrates
> tampered with procedures on behalf of people they wanted to protect. It
>
>
>
> is a conspiracy at the very top." However, he maintained his innocence,
>
>
>
> suggesting that he did not stifle any of the investigations. His peers
> thought otherwise.
>
>
> The panel returned a verdict in late March and found Stilinovic guilty
> of negligence. He received the severest penalty and was dismissed from
> his position. Cazals was also found guilty and transferred from his
> prestigious post in Paris. Meyer, who was retired at the time of the
> inquiry, was stripped of his honorary title after he too was found
> guilty. Daillie received no punishment.
>
>
> New Evidence
>
>
> In August 2002, investigators found new clues during their inquiry into
>
>
>
> Joanna's murder. They revealed that recently recovered DNA evidence
> pointed to two men being involved in the rape and murder of Joanna. The
>
>
>
> BBC News further stated in their article "Fresh Clues in Joanna Murder
> Hunt" that new documents were found which indicated that police
> arrested a suspect in connection with Joanna's murder early in the
> investigation. Yet, he was released because of lack of evidence.
>
>
> Investigators are continuing to follow up on the new leads, hoping that
>
>
>
> it might result in the arrest of her killers. However, a great deal of
> time has passed since her death and the chances of solving the crime
> have significantly decreased over the years. Regardless, Joanna's
> family and law enforcement officials re-examining the case have not
> given up hope.
>
>
> In April 2004, more new evidence arose concerning the suicide of
> Jambert. According to Alderson and Willsher's article, Corinne Herrmann
>
>
>
> received access to Jambert's files while she was conducting research
> into the case of the Burgundy's missing and murdered girls. She became
> suspicious of his death and believed he might have been murdered. She
> just had to prove her theory.
>
>
> Herrmann, author of Les Disparues D'Auxerre, convinced Jambert's
> children to exhume their father's body so that another autopsy could be
>
>
>
> conducted. After several days of examining the remains, the medical
> investigators made a startling discovery. Alderson and Willsher claimed
>
>
>
> that Jambert had been shot not once, but twice in the head making it
> almost impossible for him to have committed suicide.
>
>
> Herrmann's suspicions were proven correct and she persuaded area
> magistrates to begin a murder inquiry. It was believed that his murder
> was directly linked with the investigation on which he was working.
> Even though investigators interviewed several possible suspects, no one
>
>
>
> has yet been convicted for the crime.
>
>
> Jambert's case, like Joanna's, is being pursued with more vigor than
> ever before. Moreover, investigators continue to review the Louis case.
>
>
>
> They are hoping to put an end to the disappearances and murders that
> have plagued Burgundy for so many years. Moreover, they hope to restore
>
>
>
> the reputation of the beautiful, medieval town that has attracted
> visitors from around the world for centuries.
>
>
> Emile Louis Trial
>
>
> On November 2, 2004, Emile Louis' murder trial finally began in
> Auxerre, France despite repeated attempts to throw out the case.
> According to a November 3, 2004 AP Worldstream article, Louis' lawyers
> requested that the case be delayed until after the European Court of
> Human Rights ruled "on their bid to dismiss the case" because they
> believed "the crimes took place too long ago for the case to be legally
>
>
>
> valid." However, the court rejected the defense request and ordered the
>
>
>
> resumption of Louis' trial.
>
>
> The 70-year-old retired bus driver, convicted of the murders of seven
> mentally handicapped women, continued to deny he was responsible for
> the murders even though he confessed to them years earlier. It is hoped
>
>
>
> that the trial will finally reveal the truth as to how the girls died.
> The trial is expected to last four weeks. If convicted, Louis could
> face life imprisonment.
>
>
> The case is considered one of France's most controversial scandals
> because the investigation was bungled and many of the case files
> dealing with the girls' disappearances, as well as other cases of
> murdered and missing women went missing from the Auxerre Courthouse. It
>
>
>
> is believed that the files were destroyed in order to cover up a
> high-level sex ring, which allegedly involved some prominent French
> officials.
>
>
> Auxerre Courthouse
>
>
> AP Worldstream reported that, "more than 90 witnesses including
> magistrates, social workers, police officers and family members of the
> victims are to testify at the trial." Many other family members of the
> victims are expected to fill the courthouse, in the hopes of seeing
> Louis brought to justice after escaping prosecution for the murders for
>
>
>
> approximately twenty-five years. The father of British student Joanna
> Parrish, who was murdered in Auxerre in 1990, is also expected to be in
>
>
>
> attendance.
>
>
> Since the onset of the trial there has been an upsurge of media and
> public interest, which has led to security concerns. Moreover, there is
>
>
>
> concern for Louis' personal safety and the authorities want to prevent
> the possibility of someone taking justice into their own hands. In
> response, safety measures were taken to secure the perimeter around the
>
>
>
> courthouse, Mie Kohiyama reported for Agence France-Presse. There is no
>
>
>
> doubt that Louis is considered by many to be one of France's most
> reviled citizens.
>
>
> Rachael Bell
>
>
> Rachael Bell has completed master's degrees in clinical and health
> psychology and is currently working on her PhD in the field of
> psychology. On a part-time basis, she instructs bachelor and master's
> level courses in psychology. She lives in Europe with her husband and
> two children.
Re: Cannibal Hells Angels cult?
Author: gornk
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:30
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> I do not fall for those vast conspiracy things. No way even Slick Willie was dealing >drugs, no way CIA was dealing drugs.
IS running in drugs , not WAS running drugs
and your use of the term 'dealing' is intentionally misleading.
The CIA is importing drugs from around the world in exchange for
weapons/cash. It's called corruption. Its called hundreds of billions
of dollars in tax-free money for organized criminal elements at the
highest level of government, and its called a general public in
complete ignorance and complete denial. (the actual
distribution/dealing is done
by the Hells Angels and other 'connected' criminal organizations.
watch these videos:
http://tinyurl.com/yyf6mr
and
http://tinyurl.com/y4gyzx
and for background on Skull n' Bones watch:
http://tinyurl.com/sm5rm
and
I- http://tinyurl.com/yfua97
II- http://tinyurl.com/eb6l7
gornk wrote:
> People keep changing the subject from the original topic to
> a discussion on something completely different, usually childish
> name-calling.
> They do not want the TOPIC discussed.
>
> The information has to keep flowing , so read on:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> quote:
>
> 'I have been reading along, watching the videos, and it is very
> interesting, especially, about informants being used, while they are on
> a killing spree.There are indeed some nasty things being done in high
> places.
>
> I am uncertain, maybe because I grew up in Montreal, Angel Territory. I
> know the gangs have had rival fights, etc, over turf, drugs.
>
> It bothers me also, pedophiles, and the HA, getting along. So many are
> married with kids, or have sisters, etc..
>
> A lot is spoken of happenings in the USA, I wonder if you have any info
> on the hub, or triangle, in the Province of BC,as this lady wrote, that
> she worked with victims from there. Also, have you heard of the Process
> Church cult? . I do believe in cults, and I fear this is widespread,
> and may end up reaching into the states.
>
> PS: Say there has been a long time cult going on, then they would
> probably take something from the victim, to the people they obey., to
> show it was done. It is very confusing to say the least
>
> _________________
> osted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:26 am Post subject:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Quote:
>
> 'I have not had time to visit all these links and watch all the videos,
> but I was googling cult activity and Satanism in BC. Came up with an
> article about a 30+ year member of the VPD who used to investigate
> child abuse cases ... Detective Constable Charles Ennis, aka Kerr
> Cuhulain who is also head honcho of an organization called Officers of
> Avalon (policeman, firefighters, EMTs, etc. of Wicca and the Pagan
> religion). He notes that Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist who worked
> out of Chilliwack General Hospital, had some patients who committed
> suicide, and the article indicates that it was possibly related to
> Gutowski's treatment received while undergoing therapy due to Satanic
> cult involvement. I can't help but wonder if the suicides might just be
> more related to the cult activity/involvement rather than Dr.
> Gutowski's treatment??
>
> http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:1kctPz0ktxEJ:www.witchvox.com/va/...
>
> I have read a couple of the Ennis/Cuhulain articles and note that he
> appears as bigoted towards Christians as he claims Christians are
> towards Wicca. He has authored The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca,
> Wiccan Warrior and Full Contact Magick: A Book of Shadows for the
> Wiccan Warrior, and Witch Hunts: Out of the Broom Closet (Spiral
> Publishing).
> -----------------
>
> Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Fantastic Quigley. This is nearly THE most important find so far.
> Kerr Cuhulain is based in Surrey, B.C. He has started an occult police
> officers association called Officers of Avalon.
> Piggy Palace (and Robert Pictons farm) is very near Surrey, B.C. , just
> N.E.
> of Surrey in Port Coquitlam. Ironically, Cuhulain was a child abuse
> investigator
> for the Vancouver Police Dept.
>
> This also fits the pattern of the cult putting their own people in key
> positions of authority re: police, child abuse, missing persons.
> (remember disgraced teen fondler, Congressman Mark Foley was chairman
> of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
>
> Some info on the Picton pig farm cult:
>
> Quote:
> http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/robert_pickton/6...
>
> Late in 1998, task force detectives got their best lead yet from
> 37-year-old Bill Hiscox. Widowed two years earlier, Hiscox had turned
> to drugs and alcohol after his wife died, rescued from the downhill
> slide when his foster sister found him a job at P&B Salvage in Surrey,
> southeast of Vancouver. The proprietors were Robert William "Willie"
> Pickton and his brother David, of Port Coquitlam. Hiscox's helpful
> relative was Robert Pickton's "off-and-on" girlfriend in 1997, and
> Hiscox picked up his paychecks at the brothers' Port Coquitlam pig
> farm, described by Hiscox as "a creepy-looking place" patrolled by a
> vicious 600-pound boar. "I never saw a pig like that, who would chase
> you and bite at you," he told police. "It was running out with the dogs
> around the property."
>
> Robert William (Willie) Pickton
>
> Hiscox had grown concerned about the Picktons after reading newspaper
> reports on Vancouver's missing women. Robert Pickton was "a pretty
> quiet guy, hard to strike up a conversation with, but I don't think he
> had much use for men." Pickton drove a converted bus with deeply tinted
> windows, Hiscox told authorities. "It was Willie's pride and joy," he
> said, "and he wouldn't part with it for anything. Willie used it a
> lot." The brothers also ran a supposed charity, the Piggy Palace Good
> Times Society, registered with the Canadian government in 1996 as a
> non-profit society intended to "organize, co-ordinate, manage and
> operate special events, functions, dances, shows and exhibitions on
> behalf of service organizations, sports organizations and other worthy
> groups." According to Hiscox, the "special events" convened at Piggy
> Palace--a converted building at the hog farm--were drunken raves that
> featured "entertainment" by an ever-changing cast of Downtown Eastside
> prostitutes.
>
> David Francis Pickton
>
> Police were already familiar with the Pickton brothers. David Francis
> Pickton had been convicted of sexual assault in 1992, fined $1,000 and
> given 30 days' probation. His victim in that case told police Pickton
> had attacker her in his trailer, at the pig farm, but she managed to
> escape when a third party came in and distracted him. Port Coquitlam
> authorities sought an order to destroy one of David's dogs in April
> 1998, under the Livestock Protection Act, but the proceedings were
> later dismissed without explanation. Pickton had also been sued three
> times for damages, resulting from traffic accidents in 1988 and 1991,
> settling all three claims out of court.
>
> Soon after Piggy Palace opened, the Pickton brothers and their sister,
> Linda Louise Wright, found themselves in court again, sued by Port
> Coquitlam officials for allegedly violating city zoning ordinances.
> According to the complaint, their property was zoned for agricultural
> use, but they had "altered a large farm building on the land for the
> purpose of holding dances, concerts and other recreations" that
> sometimes drew as many as 1,800 persons. Following a New Year's Eve
> party on December 31, 1998, the Picktons were slapped with an
> injunction banning future parties, the court order noting that police
> were henceforth "authorized to arrest and remove any person" attending
> public events at the farm. The "society" finally lost its nonprofit
> status in January 2000, for failure to provide mandatory financial
> statements.
>
> Other charges filed against Robert Pickton were more serious. In March
> 1997 he was charged with the attempted murder of a drug-addicted
> prostitute, Wendy Lynn Eistetter, whom he stabbed several times in a
> wild melee at the pig farm. Eistetter told police that Pickton
> handcuffed and attacked her on March 23, but that she escaped after
> disarming him and stabbing him with his own knife. A motorist found
> Eistetter beside the highway at 1:45 a.m. and took her to the nearest
> emergency room, while Pickton sought treatment for a single stab wound
> at Eagle Ridge Hospital. He was released on $2,000 bond, but the charge
> was later dismissed without explanation in January 1998.
>
> The stabbing had crystallized Bill Hiscox's suspicion about Robert
> Pickton, whom he called "quite a strange character." Aside from the
> assault, Hiscox told police, there were "all the girls that are going
> missing, and all the purses and Ids that are out there in his trailer
> and stuff." Pickton, Hiscox told detectives, "frequents the downtown
> area all the time, for girls."
>
> Police recorded Hiscox's statement and a detective accompanied him to
> the pig farm, afterward vowing "to push the higher-ups, all the way to
> the top, to investigate." Subsequent press reports indicate that the
> farm was searched three times, apparently without result. The brothers
> would remain on file, "persons of interest" to the inquiry, but no
> surveillance would be mounted on the farm.
>
> Back in Vancouver, meanwhile, the list of missing women grew longer,
> with no end in sight.
>
> Last edited by Thunkerdrone on Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:14 pm; edited 1 time
> in total
>
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>
> Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I checked Google Maps for an aerial view of the general area where
> Piggy Palace and the Picton pig farm is located:
>
> It is in Port Coquitlam, which is just NorthEast of Surrey, B.C. where
> our Officers of Avalon cult friends are headquartered.
> Notice the big nearby rail yard. Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
>
> inland river /rail port, from what I can tell the biggest such port in
> the Vancouver area.
> This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
> Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
> disappearing onto ships.
> If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
> etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
> that might be useful.
>
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> Thunkerdrone
> Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> Posts: 76
> Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Check this out: the Hells Angels entire Vancouver chapter is also
> located
> in Port Coquitlam. So we have Officers of Avalon (police), the Pickton
> pig cult,
> and the Hells Angels all headquartered in the same area immediatelly
> surrounding
> this massive rail port:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/srtaa
>
> Quote:
> Neal Hall, VANCOUVER SUN
> Published: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
> A high-profile member of the Vancouver Hells Angels says people have
> been rude to him and he has experienced "fear and loathing" from the
> public at supermarkets, restaurants and other places after an Ontario
> court ruling last year that found the Hells Angels is a criminal
> organization, a Vancouver judge was told Monday.
>
> In an affidavit filed in B.C. Supreme Court, Rickey Ciarniello, 61, the
> president of the Vancouver chapter, who has been a member of the Hells
> Angels since 1983, says he has always proudly worn his Hells Angels
> insignia, known as colours, but since the Ontario ruling he has
> experienced "harassment, stigma and ostracism that membership would now
> seem to entail."
>
> He was wearing a black jacket in court Monday that said in small
> letters on the front: Vancouver Hells Angels.
>
> His affidavit, obtained by The Vancouver Sun, claims he is a
> law-abiding Hells Angels member who is "not responsible for the
> criminal acts that have, at times, been committed by some of its
> members."
>
> His affidavit recalled that after the Ontario ruling, Ciarniello went
> to a restaurant called Joey Tomatoes wearing his colours and overheard
> a couple asking to be moved because they didn't want to sit next to a
> criminal.
>
> "Following that I was quite uncomfortable and decided to leave the
> restaurant," said the affidavit.
>
> "I have noticed a marked difference in the way that people respond to
> me when I am wearing my colours," Ciarniello said in his affidavit.
>
> "The mood has gone from friendly and casual curiosity to fear, loathing
> and avoidance such that I am now made to feel uncomfortable wearing the
> HAMC [Hells Angels Motorcycle Club] insignia."
>
> Since the Ontario judgment, his affidavit says, staff members at the
> local Safeway near his PORT COQUITLAM home -- where he has purchased
> groceries for 20 years -- are not as friendly as they used to be, and
> he's received similar treatment at a Shell gas station.
>
> His affidavit also states that John Bryce, president of the East End
> chapter of the Hells Angels, was refused as a customer of the Bank of
> Nova Scotia, after two decades of business with it, after the Ontario
> ruling.
>
> And Ciarniello says while he regularly spoke to the media on behalf of
> the Hells Angels in B.C. and nationally, he has generally refrained
> from speaking out to the same extent after the ruling because he is
> concerned that "I may be charged with participating in the activities
> of a criminal organization...."
>
> He said the effect of the Ontario ruling "is to declare me a member of
> a criminal organization notwithstanding that I have never engaged in
> the promotion of criminal conduct."
>
> His affidavit was filed as part of his constitutional challenge of all
> the sections of the Criminal Code making it illegal to participate,
> direct or instruct people for the benefit of a criminal organization.
>
> He claims the Ontario Superior Court ruling in the case known as
> Lindsay and Bonner has caused a stigma to belonging to the Hells Angels
> in B.C., which infringes his section seven rights of life, liberty and
> security of person.
>
> n...@png.canwest.com
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> http://www.thenownews.com/issues05/112105/news/112105nn2.html
>
> Quote:
> Hells Angels members get four years
>
> By Jennifer Saltman - Staff Reporter
>
> Two senior members of the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels - which
> is based in Coquitlam - were each sentenced in B.C. Supreme Court
> Monday to four years in jail for drug trafficking.
>
> Surrey resident Norman Edward Krogstad, 58, who police say is the
> president of the Vancouver chapter, and 55-year-old Langley resident
> Cedric Baxter Smith, a senior member of the chapter, had pleaded guilty
> earlier to 11 counts of cocaine trafficking.
>
> The two were sentenced by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm for
> their role in trafficking almost 10 kilograms of cocaine bought by a
> former biker who was working as an undercover police agent.
>
> Smith was also fined $100,000 for his role in the trafficking
> operation, during which the police agent bought nine kilograms and 24
> ounces of cocaine between June 2003 and September 2004.
>
> When police raided Smith's home, they seized $73,000 in cash - and Dohm
> ordered Smith to pay $27,500 on top of that to satisfy payment of the
> fine.
>
> Krogstad and Smith were among 10 men arrested on the Lower Mainland and
> in Prince George in January after a 20-month-long joint police
> investigation.
>
> The investigation resulted in firearm and drug-trafficking charges
> against six members and associates of the Prince George Renegades
> motorcycle club and four members and associates of the Hells Angels'
> Vancouver chapter.
>
> Undercover police officers bought large quantities of drugs, stolen
> property and illegal guns were purchased from various members of
> Vancouver- and Prince George-based Hells Angels, and their associates.
>
> In Vancouver and Prince George, investigators seized more than
> $100,000, 25 pounds of marijuana, 14 kilograms of cocaine and
> restricted and prohibited weapons.
>
> The Angels' COQUITLAM clubhouse was not searched during the operation.
> The Vancouver chapter has approximately 16 members
> .
> ********
> ed Nov 15, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From:
>
> Quote:
> http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=16079
>
> "A special team investigating the cases," reported the New York Times
> on Saturday, November 23, 2002, "arrived and found body parts in a
> freezer, as well as purses and other personal effects later linked to
> the missing.... Not one body has been found intact, and a wood chipper
> and Mr. Pickton's pigs are believed to have devoured much of the
> evidence."
>
> The Scene of the Crimes
>
> "There are no whole bodies at the pig farm," says Elaine Allan, a
> former coordinator for a DES drop-in center for sex workers. While
> employed there in the late '90s, she worked with almost 20 of the women
> who are believed to have been murdered by Robert Pickton, dismembered,
> and fed to his pigs. In her late 30s with medium-length hair, an
> intelligent air, and attentive eyes, Allan's voice expresses an almost
> aching sensitivity for the victims.
>
> "I can't tell you exactly what they have found on the farm because of
> the ban on that information. You know about the ban?" I say that I do,
> but the local papers have reported about the feet, teeth, and bones.
> Everyone knows about the body parts, the pigs, the wood chipper, the
> freezers. Indeed, the animal rights organization PETA had planned to
> place a large ad in the Province describing the murders in horrifying
> detail. ("They were drugged and dragged across the room," the PETA ad
> began. "Their struggles and cries went unanswered.... [b]They were
> slaughtered and their heads were sawed off.... Their body parts were
> refrigerated.... And their bones discarded. [/b]It's Still Going On.
> Please remember that this scenario is a reality for more than 640
> million sensitive individuals who lose their lives every year in this
> country for nothing more than the taste of their 'meat.'")
>
> What detail could Allan possibly tell me that wasn't already known? Was
> there more than dismembered women in the meat freezer, in the teeth of
> the wood chipper, or the guts of the pigs? Were there worse details,
> more horrifying details?
>
> "Yes," she says. "It's worse than you can imagine."
> Now for the truly sickening part, if this were not bad enough
>
> I followed the street address provided in the above news article, the
> street address for the pig farm: 953 Dominion Avenue (Dominion
> Triangle)
> on Google Maps, and I found that the swatch of farmland actually
> borders the massive rail yard and inland sea port. The above article
> also mentions that women from Seattle started disappearing at the same
> time, and my guess is that this is not the only other city involved.
>
> Now it starts to get truly strange:
>
> I did a Google on the most famous Hells Angel in history
> Sonny Barger
> During the course of my search I came upon a biker-connected band
> known as Spiralarms.
> The bass player for Spiralarms, known as 'Spiralbass' (has a Myspace
> page)
>
> http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&frie...
>
> and on his page I found this:
> http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/MANTIS11/enemy/gutsyjm3io9.gif
>
> (edited by Hazel, sorry TD just too graphic for me, and if too graphic
> for me I am sure its too graphic for others. However, I left the link
> intact, if anyone wants to see this image, cut and paste away. Thanx)
>
> I got curious about this guy , and found that he is from Benicia,
> California.
> I did a Google Earth on Benicia, California.
> Benicia is literally just across the river from Mount Diablo, on the
> north side , and not far geographically from Bohemian Grove (approx. 70
> miles SE). It is another port city, this time for Concord Naval Weapons
> Base.
> http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove_maps.h...
>
> Now back to our friend Kerr Kuhulain (detective constable Charles
> Ennis):
>
> Kuhulain and his books are prominent on this site:
> http://spiralpublishinginc.com/osCommerce/
>
> this is Kuhulain's publisher : Spiral Publishing.
>
> Spiral Arms
> Spiral Publishing
>
> The goddess depicted above is Kali
>
> >From http://tinyurl.com/yxjms2
>
> "Cannibalism (more precisely, anthropophagy) is an age-old tradition
> that, judging by a constant stream of flabbergasted news reports, is
> far from extinct. Much-debated indications exist that our Neanderthal,
> Proto-Neolithic, and Neolithic (Stone Age) predecessors were cannibals.
> Similarly contested claims were made with regards to the 12th century
> advanced Anasazi culture in the southwestern United States and the
> Minoans in Crete (today's Greece)."
>
> The Britannica Encyclopedia (2005 edition) recounts how the "Binderwurs
> of central India ate their sick and aged in the belief that the act was
> pleasing to their goddess, Kali." Cannibalism may also have been common
> among followers of the Shaktism cults in India.
>
> Now , are not many of the ships into Port Coquitlam from India?
> Is Kerr Kuhulain himself not from India? Remember, if you look at
> the Pickton farm on google earth, it right beside both an asian
> shipping port and a massive rail yard . This is a colossal scale rail
> yard. This is valuable land, and lots of it.
>
> Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/10/27/66369.html
>
> Indian cannibal sect eats human corpses, believing it give them
> supernatural powers
>
> Quote:
> 16:42 2005-10-27
> A new Indian documentary seeks to shed light on a secretive sect of
> Hindu ascetics who allegedly eat human corpses, believing it will make
> them ageless and give them supernatural powers.
>
> The 10-minute movie "Feeding on the Dead" delves into the little-known
> world of the 1,000-year-old Aghori sect, whose sadhus, or holy men,
> purportedly pull bodies from Hinduism's holy river, the Ganges, in
> northern India.
>
> The sect has been written about, but rarely filmed performing its
> rituals. Cannibalism is illegal in India.
>
> Director Sandeep Singh, who shut down his transport business to pursue
> film-making, said it took him more than three months to gain an Aghori
> sadhu's trust and persuade him to be filmed while performing a
> cannibalistic ritual.
>
> "When we first met the sadhu, he said: 'Rubbish, we don't do this,"'
> Singh told The Associated Press in an interview. "It took months before
> he admitted to the rituals."
>
> There are about 70 Aghori sadhus at a given time, Singh said. They
> remain with the sect for 12 years, and can then return to their
> families, he said.
>
> Unlike other Hindu holy men, most of whom are vegetarians and
> teetotalers, the Aghoris also drink alcohol.
>
> But it is their consumption of human flesh, a practice whose origins
> remain a mystery, which has earned them the condemnation of other
> Hindus and relegated most of them to living around crematoriums in the
> hills around the northern holy city of Varanasi, where the documentary
> was made.
>
> While filming, Singh and three cameramen waited with an Aghori holy
> man, whose name is not mentioned in the film, for 10 days in June
> before the sadhu found a corpse floating in the Ganges.
>
> Hindus generally cremate the dead, but sometimes ceremonially dispose
> of bodies in the Ganges.
>
> "The body was decomposed and bluish in color, but the sadhu was not
> afraid about falling sick," Singh said. "He sat on the corpse, prayed
> to a goddess of crematoriums and offered some flesh to the goddess
> before eating it."
>
> Singh said the sadhu ate part of the corpse's elbow, believing the
> flesh would stop him from aging and give him special powers, like the
> ability to levitate or control the weather.
>
> The filmmaker said he did not see any such powers displayed, and plans
> to continue his research into the sect by filming ascetics at various
> intervals during their 12 years as Aghoris, reports the AP.
> I.L.
>
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>
> Thunkerdrone
>
> Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> Posts: 76
>
> Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vvrlq
>
> Quote:
> The cruel rites of Kali in no way belong to the past. As the Indian
> press currently reports, in recent times more and more incidents of
> human sacrifice to the goddess have accumulated, in which it is
> primarily children who are offered up. The ancient and universal myth
> of the Earth Mother, who consumes her own progeny and fattens herself
> with their corpses, who greedily laps up the blood-seed of humans and
> animals, who lures life into her abyss and dark hole in order to
> destroy it, is actually celebrating a renaissance in contemporary India
> (Neumann, 1989, pp. 148-149).
>
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>
> willow
>
> Joined: 30 Apr 2006
> Posts: 1793
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:35 am Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Quote:
> this was an operation on an industrial scale Now I am beginning to
> understand why the media ban.
>
> Trevor Greene mentions in his book Bad Date 2001, that there was a
> Farmer Willie possibly involved, but rather than concentrating on that
> aspect, he followed up a lot, on the fear of a lot of the ladies that
> women were being taken aboard ships, used as "entertainment" and dumped
> over board.
>
> Until now, I did not realize the property bordered the port.
>
> http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9024098%255...
>
> Quote:
>
> 21mar04
>
> CANADIANS horrified by the discovery of an alleged serial killer in
> their midst have been confronted with even worse news -- they may have
> eaten animals that ate the victims.
>
> The farmer suspected of killing at least 22 women is feared to have
> disposed of their bodies by feeding them to his pigs.
>
> The pigs were then slaughtered on his farm, 30km east of Vancouver, and
> the meat given to hundreds of locals.
>
> Police this week confirmed samples of the pig meat probably contained
> human DNA, raising the prospect that those living near the farm of
> suspected killer Robert William Pickton "ate" his victims.
>
> Pickton, 54, apparently had a habit of slaughtering pigs, wrapping up
> the meat and distributing it to associates and friends.
>
> Many of Pickton's victims were prostitutes. The killer regularly gave
> pork from his farm to other sex workers.
>
> "Those are my friends that he served up," said one prostitute this week
> after learning she may eaten meat contaminated with her friends' DNA.
>
> Families of the missing women expressed shock at the news, with one
> telling a Vancouver radio station: "I'm not eating dinner tonight."
>
> Police have asked anyone with frozen pork products from the farm to
> turn them into authorities immediately.
>
> Health officials are examining whether human pathogens and diseases
> such as hepatitis and HIV could have been transferred through the meat
> products.
>
> Police arrested Pickton in February 2002, but only announced this week
> they had found human remains and other DNA samples at the farm.
>
> Pickton has been charged with 15 counts of first-degree murder in the
> disappearances of women over the past 20 years.
>
> Many of the victims vanished from Vancouver's drug-ridden areas. More
> than 60 prostitutes went missing over the past decade and are feared to
> have been murdered at the farm.
>
> -------------------
> So here we have a biker band Spiralarms, and the cover of their
> CD contains Kali , the cannibalistic goddess of death, whom is
> worshipped in cannibalistic rituals.
>
> The drummer for Spiralarms is from the Mount Diablo/Bohemian Grove area
> (where sacrifices are done to Mol-luk , Condor Man, eater of human
> flesh) and the drummer also has the cartoon of a human flesh
> slaughterhouse on his page.
>
> Then further up the coast in B.C. we have Port Coquitlam, the central
> headquarters of the Hells Angels for the entire region, and a gigantic
> cannibal restaurant/hall called Piggy Palace, with a slaughterhouse
> next to it, situated right next to what could be the most gigantic rail
> yard in NA,
> and a port servicing ships from Asia.
>
> Finally, we have child-abuse squad occultist Kerr Kuhulain who lives
> just SW of Port Coquitlam and publishes occult books
> at a publisher by the name of Spiral Press. He has also formed an
> occult police organization called The Officers of Avalon.
>
> Now we wonder why the police did nothing for so long?
> Quote:
> http://www.twpt.com/cuhulain.htm
>
> Kerr Cuhulain A former Air Force officer, Kerr Cuhulain (Vancouver) has
> been a police officer for the past twenty years, and a Wiccan for
> thirty. He's served on the SWAT team, Gang Crime Unit, and hostage
> negotiation team. He travels throughout North America as a popular
> speaker at writers' conferences and Pagan festivals, and he has been
> the subject of many books, articles, and media interviews. He is the
> author of The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca.
>
> "As a child I was a seeker (though, at the time, I couldn't have told
> you what I was looking for). I remember leaving libations from my lunch
> box for various Greek Gods while I was in elementary school. I found a
> book on Wicca in my high school library 31 years ago and realized that
> there was a name for what I believed. There was no turning back after
> that."
>
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>
> Thunkerdrone
>
> Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> Posts: 76
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:42 am Post subject:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Quote:
> http://tinyurl.com/yg8oov
>
> Vancouver Sun
> 16 September 1989,
>
> Gutowski, who at that time claimed to have treated five "ritual abuse
> survivors in the last four to five years,"(2 is quoted as follows:
>
> "We, as psychiatrists, don't want to believe it at all. But the weight
> of evidence about hypnotic regressions convinces us that these things
> are actually true. And when you see the reality of the impact it has on
> their minds and bodies and emotions, it becomes much more
> believable."(29)
> "According to Gutowski, at these [occult crime] conferences,
> psychiatrists are hearing that survivor's disclosures are pointing to
> the fact that prominent people are involved in cult activities.
> `They're mayors, lawyers, police, church people- upstanding citizens.
> These people are not from Skid Road,' he says."(30)
> "Gutowski says evidence gathering is nearly impossible because cults
> `go to extreme detail in covering up the remains of people that are
> murdered, especially of babies. But I don't think anything is being
> done because of the difficulty of getting evidence'".(31)
> "Chilliwack's Gutowski estimates that up to half of the one in 3,000
> people with multiple personality disorders in Canada have been ritually
> abused. The other half have experienced extremely sadistic sexual,
> physical, mental, or emotional violence. `The typical memories (of
> those who have been ritually abused) are of being tied down,
> mutilations in the secrecy of night in graveyards, bushes and forests.
> Wounds are inflicted where they're not seen and they are not
> deep.'"(32)
> "Consistency in the way patients retell the details of their stories
> while in trances, as well as cross-patient consistencies in the
> recounting of typical cult activities, convinces Gutowski further."(33)
>
> Gutowski's name appears again in the Ottawa Citizen, on March 3, 1990.
> Gutowski is quoted as follows:
>
> "Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist at the Chilliwack General Hospital
> in British Columbia, has dealt with 20 cult survivors since 1985.
>
> "Drugs are a frequent thing that happens, used to confuse (the victims)
> so they don't really remember what's reality. That's a purposeful
> technique so (memories of the event are) actually blocked out of the
> conscious mind and this is where the development of the multiple
> personality starts.
>
> "The cult's activities, he says, 'are so gross, that most people who
> aren't familiar with the field would say, 'that's not possible'.
> Secrecy is one of their biggest weapons."(34)
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> willow wrote:
>
> At second Glance I realize Kerr Cuhulain is an alias as you already
> mentioned. All I can tell is he is Canadian, doesn't seem to have an
> Indian (as in the continent) name or appearance (to me).
> -------
>
> yes, his real name is Charles Ennis. He is not East-Indian.
> --------
>
> Kim Rossmo was treated completely infairly. Instead of getting a medal
> for figuring out the geographic evidence suggesting a serial killer was
> to blame for the growing number of missing women in the DTES, he was
> let go! After being treated like an outcast for quite some time by his
> own department and fellow officers.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2006/06/19/bc_child-porn20060619.html
> Quote:
> Earlier this year Vancouver police Sgt. John Dragani - who has since
> retired - was charged with possession of child pornography after
> allegations surfaced in 2005 that he had child porn on his home
> computer.
>
> http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/9-year-vetren-of-rcmp-fired...
>
> Quote:
>
> Tristan Johnson, 35, a nine-yearvetren of the force came under
> suspiscion due to an annonymous tip he was accessing child porn from
> his home computer. In another stunning display of interdepartmental
> cooperation the tip was passed on to the Vancouver police (the suspects
> jurisdiction, Surrey.) After 4 months of investigation, they determined
> there was enough evidence supporting the tip to fire him, they
> approached the suspect and let him know, he chose to resign in the face
> of dismissal. The matter is before the Crown.
>
> http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=65c84a7b-1efc-4...
>
> Quote:
>
> 2nd ex-cop faces child-porn probe Prosecutors study report from
> Vancouver police department on allegations involving nine-year
> veteran's home computer
>
> http://www.mindytran.com/rcmp_sanctioned_killers.htm
>
> Quote:
> The RCMP have been aiding a known group of killers to avoid justice for
> many years in Canada. These killers were all later identified as
> protected police informants. The Police have gone to great lengths to
> protect their informants from prosecution and aggressively obstruct the
> victims families from having any recourse to justice. These "special"
> informants are functioning as Police agents, above the law and in
> certain cases, virtually licensed to kill!
>
> Little about the laws governing these "untouchables" is known and
> little is ever willingly disclosed by the RCMP. In most cases, Canadian
> laws will prohibit you from knowing, or the media from publishing, the
> identities of police informants . see- justice department quiz
> (question #1)
>
> What is known is that the number of these "informants" is constantly
> being increased and they are involved in criminal activity, while at
> the same time, the RCMP is urging the public to inform them of any
> criminal activity.
> see- RCMP website- number of informants (final paragraph)
>
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> Thunkerdrone
>
> Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> Posts: 76
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:35 am Post subject:
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>
> So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
> sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
>
> What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
> to take the fall and shut up?
>
> http://www.mindytran.com/canadian_informants.htm
>
> Quote:
>
> Canadian informants
>
> Examples of Canadian informants:
>
> This man confessed to having committed 43 murders in 1986, supposedly
> before turning police informant, and assuming a new identity under the
> witness protection program.
> quote from serial killer index:
> hey there! love the sight but have you ever heard of Yves "Apache"
> Trudeau? he is a Hells Angel, now under the protection of the Canadian
> government due to his turning in his biker cronies. In return for
> ratting his buddies out he recieved immunity for some 43 murders he
> committed, mostly for revenge and / or money. A pretty prolific killer
> I would say
> What was Trudeau doing?
> see- story
> see- short version
> full story- the complete story has now been removed from CBC website.
> This information is rapidly disappearing from the public domain.
>
> Cory Patterson, another admitted member of these informant/ killers,
> claimed that there were others like him. He was never charged, just
> relocated. Patterson was found dead after he informed on his police
> handlers and disclosed his protected informant status to a journalist.
> The CBC fifth Estate investigated and aired the program.
> quote-Justice Paul Hermiston couldn't believe what he was hearing.
> Never in his career had he heard of such a bizarre case. He was at a
> loss to even speculate why the RCMP would hire such a wicked man.
> see story
>
> Clifford Robert Olson, Canada's most notorious serial killer, was an
> informant and received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the police
> following his arrest. He was a suspect when there was only one victim,
> was heavily implicated when there were three, but went on to kill
> eleven innocent children before the authorities finally decided to stop
> his killing spree. Before any of these murders began, Olson was well
> known to police as 'Bobo" the prison informant, a brutal serial rapist
> of young male inmates.
> see- Clifford Olson named as informant.
> see- Bobo the prison rapist
>
> Olson had also committed approximately eighty rapes around Vancouver
> without ever being apprehended!
> quote-This is a fellow that committed approximately eighty rapes in
> Greater Vancouver. We know from undercover policewomen who were in his
> home when he was identified as a suspect that he actually had a map up
> on the wall of his apartment, his flat, and on the map he had marked up
> the locations of his attacks.
> see pg/4- Kim Rossmo
> Quote: Since 1981, questions have been raised about the search for
> Canada's first known serial killer. This account shows in meticulous
> detail, how the investigation unfolded from the outset. It is possible
> that Olson might have been stopped early in his rampage, when two
> officers, each working separate cases, identified him as a suspect.
> see- Olson's full story
> To this day, an ex police member, Kettle is continuing to be vocal
> about his attempts to have Olson investigated at the time. The RCMP
> blocked all attempts. There never was a court case.
> see- The best Olson story
>
> The murder of Leo LaChance disclosed the complicity of the Crown and
> the RCMP in a cover-up to benefit this killer, a known RCMP informant.
> Information regarding this killer's protected informant status was
> prohibited from being made known during the court case and even
> withheld from the subsequent inquiry.
> see- story
>
> This informant was on the RCMP payroll when he killed two people. He
> confessed, yet no charges were ever laid. This story has now been
> removed from news site- www.montrealgazettemay17_2002.pdf Contact them
> for information as to why this has now been removed from their website.
>
> Danny Kane was involved in many murders and was authorized to receive
> two million dollars from the RCMP at the time of his death.
> Quote:
> Serious questions are being asked as to why the RCMP looked the other
> way when they knew that their informant, Danny Kane, was personally
> involved in almost a dozen different murders.
> see- story
>
> Recently, CTV W5 looked into another suspicious case in Kenora Ontario.
> A suspect was arrested and charged with murder. Years later the charge
> was stayed when another suspect surfaced. The other suspect, a police
> informant, the police investigator, his uncle! The police refuse to
> investigate further or to charge the cop.
> see- W5 story
>
> This dangerous RCMP agent was permitted to move right in with his next
> victim. There were no warnings. It took years of enduring judicial
> obstruction for the mother of the murder victim to find out that her
> son's killer was an RCMP agent
>
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> quigley
>
> Joined: 21 May 2006
> Posts: 727
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:09 am Post subject:
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>
> Quote:
> Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
> sea/rail port, from what I can tell the biggest port in the Vancouver
> area.
> This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
> Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
> disappearing onto ships.
> If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
> etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
> that might be useful.
>
> The boundaries of the Dominion Av and Burns Rd properties owned by the
> Picktons are in fact north of the Lougheed Hwy and the massive rail
> connections are to the south, but all in very close proximity to both
> the farm and Piggy's Palace. There are certainly no major ports
> adjacent to either of the Pickton properties, but it is interesting to
> note that the Burns Rd property leads eastward to the Pitt River.
> Doesn't take much stretch to visualize smaller logging or fishing
> vessels being able to transport things from the Pitt River location
> down river to the major ports around Surrey, New West and Richmond.
>
> There is one major port on the Fraser River in Richmond where I was
> involved in a private investigation/search (body ultimately recovered
> from the Fraser). One of the things we talked about at the time was a
> massive "chute" that goes about 100' up in the air and appears to have
> something to do with the logging industry (massive wood chipping
> operation??). The particular location we were in is called Mitchell
> Island. It is a very industrial type area with a lot of transport
> trucks, containers, auto parts places, reputed chop-shop locations,
> etc. I'm pretty steely, and it was one of the blackest, scariest places
> I've ever been with weird people in the shadows, watching what we were
> doing and ducking out of sight. Long story ... another time.
>
> Just mainly trying to point out where the water runs from and to in
> relation to the Pickton boys.
>
> BTW ... while you are looking at that same area west of the Pitt River
> bridge, further west around the corner of Lougheed and Shaughnessy is a
> hotel called "The Shaughnessy" (I think) ... I do know that it is
> reputed to have heavy HA patronage.
>
> Just to the east of the Pitt River bridge is a hotel that used to be
> called "The Wild Duck Inn" and used to be referred to as "The
> Gilnetter". Also known for lots of HA attendees.
>
> Thunkerdrone, FWIW ... the Pitt River bridge is the dividing line
> between POCO and Haney. There was previous mention of a HA clubhouse
> across the road from the Pickton property in POCO. Don't know whether
> it ever was determined if it was the Domion Av or Burns Rd property.
> There is also a Haney chapter of the HA, so looks like there is a lot
> of HA activity in that general area.
>
> quig
>
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> Desespere
>
> Joined: 21 Apr 2006
> Posts: 991
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> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:32 am Post subject:
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>
> I can't remember the name of the bike club in Edmonton, it used to be
> the Rebels. The fortress was on 83 street and 115 ave if I remember
> correctly, and was still there when the other one took over from the
> Rebels. It moved after that, 1990's I think. I don't know where they
> gather now. Is HA in Edmonton?
> _________________
> Take the first step in faith. You don't have to
> see the whole staircase, just take the first step.
> - Martin Luther King Jr.
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> willow
>
> Joined: 30 Apr 2006
> Posts: 1793
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:
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>
> Hi Des, Yes, they're in Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ontario, Quebec, don't know
> about Saskatchewan, but if they aren't there then that's probably the
> only place they aren't. I am pretty sure they are in the maritime
> provinces too.
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> willow
>
> Joined: 30 Apr 2006
> Posts: 1793
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:27 am Post subject:
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>
> Quote:
> So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
> sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
>
> What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
> to take the fall and shut up?
>
> Thunkerdrone you may be interested in this site as well
>
> http://www.injusticebusters.com/06/RCMP2006.shtml
>
> Also check out our Olson thread if you havn't already.
> http://www.freeforum101.com/edmontonsk/viewtopic.php?t=981&highlight=...
>
> There's some hair raising stuff here, and yes I think its related to
> the death cult stuff you've been edumacating us on with your wonderful
> links.
> You may be able to help tie some of this together with your POV.
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> quigley
>
> Joined: 21 May 2006
> Posts: 727
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:46 am Post subject:
>
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>
> Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
>
> A few years ago there were definitely "prospecting" clubs (I think aka
> "puppet" clubs) for HA in Saskatchewan. They are clubs that go by other
> names, but supposedly do the dirty work for the HA.
>
> I read an article on it recently about the heirarchy and the various
> affiliations, but can't recall all of it. Will try to find the info
> again and post it.
>
> quig
>
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> quigley
>
> Joined: 21 May 2006
> Posts: 727
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:51 am Post subject:
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>
> Re Vancouver Ports, and a post recently about Stan Hennessy being
> linked to the HA:
>
> Quote:
> The Vancouver Sun published the picture last week prompting questions
> about the link between the union and the Hells Angels - the most talked
> about organized crime outfit in B.C. but the one with the least number
> of members in jail.
>
> Local 31 in Delta led by Hennessy represents more than 6,000 workers in
> B.C. and the Yukon, including about 230 civilian employees of the
> Vancouver police, 80 civilian employees of the Abbotsford force, about
> 350 inside workers at the Greater Vancouver Regional District, and
> several hundred truckers who haul containers at the Port of Vancouver.
>
> Vancouver civilian police employees have access to highly sensitive
> information, ranging from the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC)
> to criminal records. They liaise with Crown attorneys, deal with the
> public at front counters, assist victims, and perform secretarial work
> in all sections of the department.
>
> Let's not even talk about the Vancouver Port which is internationally
> renowned for being a gateway for contraband.
>
> from:
> http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f4ad0a1...
>
> quig
>
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> adrian
>
> Joined: 13 Apr 2006
> Posts: 675
> Location: ALBERTA
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: Thunker:::
>
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>
> YIKES
>
> It has also taken years and years for the murders here, to be looked
> at, and the surrounding areas. BTW Saskatchewan, Alberta, and B.C.
> there are a hell of a lot of missing and/or murdered. The task force,
> is being quiet, but they have some great profilers, and investigators,
> of the homicidal sexual sadist.
>
> There could actually be a brotherhood of sorts, and that could contain,
> many types of people.The way the gals are killed are not disclosed,
> other than then, the obvious burning to some, and one with full body
> trauma. Unless someone has learned more info., I wonder if any are
> secretly held, and used, tortured, till deemed disposable.Twisted sick.
>
> Plus with bodies splintering out all over, there are a lot of different
> jurisdictions.I hope the police from each place is keeping in touch
> with each other.There could even be a cop who has knowledge, who knows?
>
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> quigley
>
> Joined: 21 May 2006
> Posts: 727
>
> Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:
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>
> Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
>
> Um ... I guess hellsangelssaskatoon.ca with www. in front of it might
> give us a bit of a clue here
>
> and from a Criminal Intelligence Service Canada 2001 report at
> http://www.cfdp.ca/crint01.htm
>
> Quote:
> Trafficking in cocaine and marijuana continues to be the primary
> activity of the HELLS ANGELS Saskatoon chapter. The gang manages
> numerous marijuana grow operations and is also involved in strip clubs
> and escort agencies
>
> from Injusticebusters "Gangs of Saskatoon"
> http://www.injusticebusters.com/04/Gangs_of_Saskatoon.htm
>
> Quote:
> The Hells Angels are using street gangs to deal illegal drugs such as
> "crystal meth," a highly addictive stimulant popping up everywhere on
> the streets of Saskatoon, say police.
>
> "There is a tonne of crystal meth in town here. It's appeared in huge
> quantities over the past year," Saskatoon Police Services Sgt. Gavin
> Morgan told the Saskatchewan News Network.
>
> "We do have intelligence that there are connections in the drug trade
> between the Hells Angels and the Native street gangs."
>
> quig
>
> ------------------
>
> The Hells Angels seem to be the missing link between the CIA drug lords
> and the various street gangs, be they the black , Italian, or native
> gangs
> not to mention the fact that the CIA has been known to plant their own
> in key positions at many police departments:
>
> CIA importing cocaine into U.S.: Dateline NBC
>
> video
> http://tinyurl.com/yxs4wf
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> I watched that and drew the conclusion that the CIA denies it,
> So no, they did not admit dealing drugs.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> A Los Angelas Police narcotics detective
> said it. I believe him. btw, he is not the only one to come
> forward) He was recruited by the CIA , but turned them down
> to work for the LAPD instead.
> found another video on this:
> video:
>
> Former narcotics investigator Mike Ruppert was forced out of the LAPD
> in 1977 when he exposed the evidence of drug trafficking by the CIA.
> THis is one of his first appearances caught on video in 1997 at the
> Granada Forum in California. Topic is CIA Drug Running.
> http://tinyurl.com/yjugzk
>
> Reply » .com/ya86ey
> **********
> gornk wrote:
> > I was speaking today with a colleague, trying to
> > get myself inside the head of a blood-drinker,
> > and that of a rich and powerful blood-drinker at
> > that.
> >
> >
> > What strains the credulity of the average person is that they
> > cannot believe that 'respectable', 'intelligent', 'prominent'
> > people would engage in such things. Is it possible?
> > But to better understand , research the life of Benjamin Franklin for
> > some insight into the type of people I am referring to.
> > Benjamin Franklin was both ingenious and satanic.
> >
> >
> > In my research, the conclusion that I came to is that this belief
> > system is also prevalent among some of the most prominent,
> > prolific, and brilliant minds in the world.
> >
> >
> > Hence, the rich and powerful involved, and very willing both to provide
> >
> >
> >
> > eachother victims and to help conceal the crimes.
> >
> >
> > Some of these people are worshipped for their genious.
> > Their genious is fed by evil, but their genious also produces
> > immeasurable wealth and knowledge to mankind.
> >
> >
> > The rich and powerful are heavily into hedonism. They recognize no
> > boundaries. Their quest is to achieve complete omnipotence, and these
> > people feel that they are performing A SERVICE TO HUMANITY each time
> > they ritualistically take a life. Each time they give a life surge to
> > the stronger among us.
> >
> >
> > That is why the ritual murder is termed a 'sacrifice'. They are willing
> >
> >
> >
> > that humanity , (and the victim's loved ones) lose these people in
> > order that the stronger among us, the smartest, perhaps even the
> > ingenious, will gain , at any cost, greater fortitude, greater life
> > force, to perform their great works in the service of mankind.
> >
> >
> > This is also why the victims of this network tend to be the weaker
> > underlings, society's discarded, such as poor and uneducated
> > people/hitchhikers/ prostitutes. These are deemed to be the expendable
> > sector of society, the equivalent of beef cattle, in service to the
> > greater good of humanity.
> >
> >
> > warning: graphic video of kosher slaughter process at
> > kosher meat packing plant.
> >
> >
> > (similar to satanic ritual torture of animals and people. Ancient
> > practice of drinking blood of tortured victims/animals in occult
> > rituals. Why?
> > The blood of the tortured is the most ancient narcotic , going back to
> > man's most primitive beginnings. The blood of the tortured is full of
> > natural opiates (endorphin pain-killers) secreted by the brain
> > into the blood stream. The blood of the tortured (animal or human) is
> > also full of adrenaline, the natural stimulant that is secreted into
> > the blood by the adrenal glands
> > for the 'fight or flight' response . Thus pain and fear produce a
> > harvest of opiates and stimulants from the glands of a mammal.
> >
> >
> > graphic video of kosher slaughter: http://tinyurl.com/y8zfu8
> >
> >
> > (note how this death chamber is crafted to generate maximum terror in
> > the animals.)
> > Standard north american plants immediately kill the animal with
> > a bolt through the head, far different from the kosher meat processing
> > depicted here. In this video, notice how the slaughter chamber is
> > crafted to provoke maximum terror among the animals, with the deafening
> >
> >
> >
> > sound of several hellish machines operating simultaneosly and the
> > simultaneous death throes of several animals. Note how the machine
> > immobilizes the head of the animals while its voice box is ripped from
> > the throat with a hook after the throat is slit, to silence the animal,
> >
> >
> >
> > then the machine squeezes the torso of the animal, its blood draining
> > into a grate
> > and the legs then mechanically crushed to prevent it from standing
> > while it dies slowly, . This is
> > conducted to produce maximum pain and terror. (notice that part
> > of the ritual is that if the animal makes eye contact with anyone
> > else other than the appointed throat cutter, they are to kick blood
> > into it's eyes.)
> >
> >
> > In occult rituals, the victim is tortured and their blood drained into
> > goblets.
> > This blood is immediately drinken because it provides an incredible
> > narcotic high.
> > Just like many popular narcotics are actually a mixture of opiates and
> > stimulants together (morphine and amphetamines) (codeine and caffeine).
> >
> >
> >
> > This ancient practice created an addiction among it's proponents. It
> > became habitual, and also
> > imbued with spiritual meaning among the ignorant. Ancient man did not
> > understand why the blood of the tortured contained opiates and
> > stimulants, or why drinking this blood made him feel like a god. He
> > thought that this was his mystical connection with dark spirits, and
> > the narcotic high a reward by spirits for his cruelty toward his
> >
> >
> > I wonder how blood drinkers deal with these modern scourges of AIDS,
> > hepc etc.
> > ARe people known to be uninfected chosen? Maybe children or
> > babies in cases that they wish to use actual human blood? Do they have
> > access to the medical
> > records of victims? Access to blood lab records or testing facilities?
> >
> >
> >
> > Somehow they are obtaining victims with clean blood.
> > In case that blood safety is in question , I would guess that, as
> > mentioned earlier, we can now synthesize same or even more
> > powerful endorphin and adrenaline , in the form of narcotic
> > mixtures,through plant-based opiates (endorphins) and stimulants
> > (adrenaline) . If the blood cannot be used in the ritual, then the cult
> >
> >
> >
> > will use drugs.
> > I am willing to bet that there is still a higher than average incidence
> >
> >
> >
> > of HIV among satanists, due to these factors. Especially back in the
> > early 1980's before public awareness and the attendant precautions.
> >
> >
> > My guess is that these rituals are often designed equally around
> > ministering to the hormonal/bestial needs of these people.
> > It is probable that those performing these acts feel that they
> > reach a physically satiated state from participating. The act of
> > committing the violence alone, under the proscribed ritual, does things
> >
> >
> >
> > to their blood and brain chemistry from which they derive strength,
> > both spiritual and physical.
> >
> >
> > A good analogy I can think of is sport hunters and sport fishermen, and
> >
> >
> >
> > especially sport fisherman, who unlike hunters, often release or
> > discard their catch. There is no logical reason to lure fish and
> > inflict pain on them, and then release them into the water. These are
> > not particularly sadistic people either. There is something primordial
> > and ancient about the life and death struggle of having a fish on the
> > line. It is struggling for its life, fighting, and one must in turn
> > resist its fight, in effect fight for one's life. Fight or flight
> > hormones are released into the blood.
> > Many people are addicted to the thrill of hooking a big fish, even if
> > they throw it back.
> > This is the adrenaline rush of the predator, of the hunter.
> > Some people watch horror films for the same reason. They get an
> > adrenaline rush from being frightened, and find that their sedentary
> > and secure life dulls them into not hormonally experiencing life's
> > daily struggle for survival. This is the adrenaline rush of the hunted.
> >
> >
> >
> > These are both fight or flight hormonal rushes that people are
> > experiencing/achieving.
> > That of the hunter and that of the hunted. There may be a crucial
> > difference here. Satanists may be achieving a blood chemistry
> > conducive to physical stamina, even genius, through ritualistic
> > violence
> > (adrenaline rush of the predator) followed by blood drinking, or
> > perhaps the consumption of powerful narcotics containing both opiates
> > and stimulants. (Mick Jagger, a knighted Freemason of the highest
> > order, put out a record called 'Goats Head Soup', with a picture of a
> > goats head in a pot. He was also a notorious user of heroine, and one
> > of the Rolling Stones biggest hits is a song called 'Sympathy for the
> > Devil'.
> > Mick Jagger fits the exact profile of the satanic persona that I make
> > reference to .
> > Extremely wealthy, and revered, gifted and talented, at one point the
> > subject of mass adoration at its absurd extreme.
> > He achieved cult-status popularity. People worshipped him, and so he
> > accepted their offerings......a very good candidate for satanism,
> > to be recruited by the cult, to be made to drink human blood. He too
> > would be sacrificing something in participation, sacrificing his
> > morality
> > as part of the process, likely in the hopes of attaining greater
> > strength with which to reward his supporters, and earn their adulation.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jagger would be just a tiny cog, one of thousands and tens of thousands
> >
> >
> >
> > of prominent people who are 'dabbled' in the occult, dipped in the
> > blood.
> > I mention him here only because his occult past is fairly widely known.
> >
> >
> >
> > What was not known until recently is the extent of occultism, and the
> > seriousness
> > of it practitioners: their extremism.
> > Bohemian Grove: satanic rituals of rich and powerful
> > DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE
> > WHAT IS BOHEMIAN GROVE?
> > SEE THE TRUTH AS DOCUMENTED IN ALEX'S FILM, DARK SECRETS: INSIDE
> > BOHEMIAN GROVE
> >
> >
> > Since 1873, the global elite has held secret meetings in the ancient
> > redwood forest of Northern California. Members of the Bohemian Club,
> > headquartered in San Francisco, CA, include Former Presidents
> > Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush family maintains a strong
> > involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of this all-male
> > organization don red, black and silver robes and conduct an occult
> > ritual Wherein they Worship a giant stone owl, sacrificing a human
> > being in effigy to What they call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."
> >
> >
> > Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated
> > Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual
> >
> >
> >
> > on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just
> > Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN
> > GROVE
> > watch the video online here:
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/j29x9
> >
> >
> > (bear in mind that the ritual depicted here is for the 'outer circle',
> > the largest and most mainstream gathering of the year. This is where
> > each member is allowed to bring a guest. This is recruitment time. The
> > real satanic stuff at the Grove goes on not in the summer time,
> > when this video was shot, but in the autumn , and the autumn rituals
> > are ultra secretive, include only insiders in tiny, concealed groups.
> >
> >
> > The grove itself is a massive, thickly forested rural installation
> > protected by the united states Secret Service. If ritual human
> > sacrifice (murder) were to take place securely and secretly anywhere in
> >
> >
> >
> > America, it would have to be at a place like this, for it to remain a
> > secret for so long, and it would likely be somewhere here, on this
> > forested land, at some dark and obscure time of year.)
> > Child abductee and child prostitute Paul Bonacci has written a book in
> > which he describes taking part as a child in pedophile/murder rituals
> > at Bohemian Grove)
> >
> >
> > Skull and Bones: Secret Satanic Society of the political elite
> > I. http://tinyurl.com/f9bme
> > II. http://tinyurl.com/qrg9p
> >
> >
> > Burned bodies are sometimes connected with rituals involving child
> > sacrifice. The parents should be thoroughly investigated in any case
> > in which a body is found burned, especially that of a youth.
> > Burning the body is of course also a good means of destroying forensic
> > evidence thoroughly. You burn up any finger prints or fibres, and/or
> > conceal the type of injuries inflicted during the killing. I suspect
> > the fire department therefore plays a very large role in secret
> > societies.
> >
> >
> > As far as media/police/establishment complicity in this: the mind
> > boggles.
> > A fish rots from the head down. If you have the allegiance of key
> > offices of power, key to the power structures of society, that may be
> > all that is required.
> > Everyone in authority is with you, or they are out.
> > 'You are with us, or you are against us.' From there follows mysterious
> >
> >
> >
> > hirings and firings, transfers , promotions, demotions. Recruitment.
> > Blacklisting, blackballing, blackmailing, setups, defamations/character
> >
> >
> >
> > assassinations. Bribes. Payouts. Honors. Election financing/voter
> > fraud. Murders. You name it, there are ways to achieve what we are
> > discussing here.
> >
> >
> > The system can be manipulated from within.
> > What comes to mind is that virtually unlimited resources are expended.
> > As in the Jack the Ripper murders (see the film
> >
> >
> >
> > >From Hell, featuring actor Johnny Depp), some of the killings appear to
> >
> >
> > be 'silencings' or people being 'being disappeared' because they know
> > something. Canada's justice system is really something too. How many of
> >
> >
> > these apparently random 'first offence' killers are actually hired to
> > silence people. If they are caught, they know that it means a maximum
> > of about five to eight years inside. Not bad, if you are secretly paid
> > a large sum of money. You do five years inside, but you are making
> > fifty
> > thousand a year to be there , and there is a good chance that you
> > will not even be caught to begin with.
> >
> >
> > Hollywood Films about secret societies to watch:
> >
> >
> >
> > >From Hell
> >
> >
> > Skulls
> > Skulls II
> > Skulls III
> >
> > AS far as a network or a brotherhood, we already have words for some of
> >
> >
> >
> > those: gangs, mafia, etc. How deeply are the bikers, the rappers. or
> > the mafioso tied up in this? Some these pimp
> > 'street gangs' like the Crips and bloods in L.A. or the Canadian street
> >
> >
> >
> > gangs are heavily into child prostitution/procurement.
> > In Halifax it was the Glasgow Guys , a black gang that had a nationwide
> >
> >
> >
> > network of pimps and recruited teenaged girls, transporting them from
> > city to city. and murdering them if they tried to escape or threatened
> > to tell anyone. It emerged that the leaders of many of these
> > rap/pimp/rasta
> > gangs have been heavily into voodoo, paganism, and attending wiccan
> > events/occult parties and gatherings. Larry King was a black politician
> >
> >
> >
> > who ran a child pimping ring in Washington, D.C
> > watch this film: http://tinyurl.com/ykdd9o
> > It is a made-for television documentary that, mysteriously, never made
> > it to air, its broadcast cancelled at the last minute by 'the powers
> > that be'.
> > If you want to know how deep and how high the corruption goes, watch
> > 'The Clinton Chronicles' on Google video.
> >
> >
> > one of the ancient Babylonian human sacrifice rituals involved
> > parents burning their children alive as a sacrifice to 'Molech'
> > Christine Van Hees was ritually sacrificed and burned by Dutroux and
> > his cult.
> > According to people in the area on the night of the murder, who heard a
> >
> >
> >
> > young
> > woman screaming, one of the last utterances Van Hees is said to have
> > issued:
> > "No, not that! Stop! Mum!"
> > Van Hees was murdered not far from her parents home, in the basement
> > of an abandoned farm house, and as part of her torture was doused in
> > kerosine and lit on fire.
> >
> >
> > also of interest:
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1024319,00.html
> > Dutroux reveals that police helped in teens' kidnap
> > BY AGENCIES IN ARLON, BELGIUM
> >
> >
> > Marc Dutroux, whose face in court cannot be shown under Belgian law
> >
> >
> > Marc Dutroux, the Belgian paedophile, revealed today that police
> > officers helped him to abduct two young women whose bodies were later
> > discovered buried in his garden.
> >
> >
> > Testifying for the first time at his trial, Dutroux said that he
> > abducted An Marchal, 17, and Eefje Lambrecks, 19, with the help of a
> > heroin-addicted friend, who is also on trial, and two other men.
> >
> >
> > "I later found out they were members of the police force," he told the
> > court, without identifying them.
> > Dutroux, 47, a convicted paedophile, is testifying on the third day of
> > his trial in the small town of Arlon. He is accused of kidnapping,
> > imprisoning and repeatedly raping six girls in the 1990s, and killing
> > four of them.
> >
> >
> > His defence team says that he was part of a large paedophile network
> > that reached into the legal establishment.
> >
> >
> > Dutroux told the court: "It is regrettable that four people can never
> > come back. I cannot repair that. If I hadn't agreed to do what I did
> > they would probably be alive.
> >
> >
> > "I cannot accept all responsibility, but take responsibility for the
> > role I played."
> >
> >
> > Dutroux told the court that one of the police officers and his alleged
> > drug-addict accomplice, Michel Lelièvre, raped Ms Marchal after the
> > teenagers were kidnapped while on holiday near the Belgian coastal town
> >
> >
> >
> > of Ostende.
> >
> >
> > But Dutroux denied murdering the two young women, who according to a
> > post-mortem examination, were most likely to have been drugged until
> > they were unconscious and then buried alive.
> >
> >
> > Dutroux said that he left the two young women with Mr Lelièvre and a
> > French accomplice, Bernard Weinstein, whom Dutroux has today denied
> > killing, after previously admitting to murder while in custody. The two
> >
> >
> >
> > men planned to force the women into prostitution.
> >
> >
> > Dutroux told the court: "I never thought that they were going to kill
> > them. I find it a great shame that these girls died. It's a disaster."
> >
> >
> > Their bodies were discovered by the police in September 1996, buried in
> >
> >
> >
> > the garden of a property belonging to Dutroux.
> >
> >
> > A month before, the brutally abused bodies of Julie Lejeune and Melissa
> >
> >
> >
> > Russo, two eight-year-old girls, were unearthed from another Dutroux
> > property, along with that of Mr Weinstein.
> >
> >
> > Post-mortem examination reports showed that the children had starved to
> >
> >
> >
> > death after being raped and beaten.
> > **********
> > transcript of BBC television show broadcast throughout Europe:
> > Correspondent: Belgium's X-Files
> >
> >
> > Tx Date 5th May 2002
> >
> >
> > This script was made from audio tape - any inaccuracies are due to
> > voices being unclear or inaudible
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> >
> >
> > In 1996 this woman came forward to tell the Belgian
> > authorities she'd spent her childhood years as the victim
> > of a paedophile network.
> > She described a world of organised sexual abuse, torture
> > and even murder.
> > It was terrible, you didn't believe your eyes and I didn't
> > believe that humans could do that.
> >
> >
> > She talked of violent child sex orgies with politicians,
> > judges and influential businessmen; a Belgian
> > underworld in which the establishment has refused to
> > believe.
> >
> >
> > Claude Eerdekens says
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf is a pathological liar; she's a woman who's
> > invented a series of scenarios, which just don't stand up.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > A campaign followed to discredit her evidence. But now,
> > in an exclusive interview, the policeman assigned to
> > investigate her claims has broken his silence.
> > He says the enquiry was blocked because it threatened to
> > reveal too much.
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens says
> > I'm convinced that she has been a victim - that's for sure.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > In June 1996 this Belgian slum revealed a bitter secret
> > that would come to haunt the nation.
> > The eyes of the world watched in horror. Into the light
> > emerged two young girls.
> > Laetitia, aged fourteen and Sabine just twelve were the
> > latest in a long line of girls who'd gone missing.
> >
> >
> > Marc Dutroux, a convicted rapist and kidnapper, had led
> > the police to where he'd imprisoned them.
> > Relief swept Belgium as their tearful homecoming was
> > caught on camera.
> > But it soon turned to horror when police revealed the
> > secret cage hidden in the cellar of Dutroux's house.
> >
> >
> > The girls had been kept here, drugged and repeatedly
> > raped.
> > But what of Belgium's other missing children. Eight year
> > olds Julie and Melissa who were missing for more than a
> > year and twelve others who'd vanished mysteriously.
> >
> >
> > Was this a new lead in the hunt for them?
> >
> >
> > The hopes of their parents were soon dashed. Within
> > days Marc Dutroux led police to the site where the bodies
> > of Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo were buried.
> > The parents were informed but when the Russos asked to
> > see their daughter, Melissa, for the last time, they were
> > refused.
> >
> >
> > Mother of Melissa
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > We begged, we were crying to see her. Really we insisted
> > with our lawyer, we really cried. They said no, it's not
> > possible, that's the law. But we said what's the point of
> > the law. And they said it's for your own psychological
> > good.
> >
> >
> > Carine Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > It's not up to them to know what's good for our
> > psychological well-being. What would have been good
> > for us was to be certain.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > It's six years since the police unearthed the bodies of
> > Julie and Melissa buried in the garden of this house.
> >
> >
> > What's extraordinary to me is that though Dutroux's in
> > jail, he's never been tried for these crimes. It's as though
> > the judicial system froze when faced with having to bring
> > him to trial.
> >
> >
> > Officially Dutroux lived on benefits yet this house, now
> > derelict, was one of five that he owned.
> > The bodies of two more missing girls were found at
> > another of his houses- Efje Ambrecks and An Marchal.
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > PAUL MARCHAL
> > Father of Victim
> >
> >
> > I didn't believe that it was possible that children were
> > kept in, in a cellar and were raped and, and kept there,
> > until that Dutroux was, taken to prison and that he, that
> > he could see the cellar. At the moment I had to believe.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> >
> >
> > Before the murders Marc Dutroux had already been
> > convicted of five charges of rape and kidnapping. Yet
> > somehow he'd served only six years in jail before he was
> > released back into the Charleroi underworld.
> >
> >
> > This was once Belgium's industrial heartland but today
> > its most famous industry is crime.
> >
> >
> > Dutroux melted back into this realm of prostitution, drug
> > traffic and stolen cars and began to plan his next project -
> > the kidnap of children.
> > For the parents now burying their murdered daughters
> > after more than a year of fruitless searching, this was not
> > the end of their nightmare. They would soon find out
> > that Dutroux had been a prime suspect from the start, yet
> > nothing had been done to save their girls.
> >
> >
> > Melissa's father is still asking why his daughter was
> > allowed to die.
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > GINO RUSSO
> > Father of Melissa
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "Ten days after the kidnapping of Julie and Melissa in '95,
> > three witnesses said it was Dutroux who was kidnapping
> > children. But they don't go looking for Julie and Melissa
> > at his house straight after the kidnapping. It's
> > inexplicable. And he continues to kidnap other children.
> > They put a special surveillance unit to watch Dutroux
> > and he continues to kidnap children. It's inexplicable;
> > the whole thing is inexplicable from start to finish."
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel says:
> >
> >
> > What is known is that Dutroux was finally caught when
> > his white van was identified. It had been used to snatch a
> > sixth girl, miles away from his home patch.
> >
> >
> > The man who arrested Dutroux was Jean Marc Conerotte,
> > an investigating magistrate. He became a national hero,
> > uniquely respected by the parents of the murdered
> > children.
> >
> >
> > Paul Marchal
> > "He is someone who want to know the truth. You can feel
> > it when you talk to him, you can feel that he want to
> > investigate, the he want to have the truth. He is a very
> > good magistrate."
> >
> >
> > Conerotte arrested Dutroux's associates. Among the first
> > was Jean Michel Nihoul.
> > Nihoul and Dutroux had been seen at the site of the latest
> > abduction the night before. They'd been in constant
> > phone contact the day it happened. And the next day
> > Nihoul gave ten thousand pounds worth of drugs to an
> > accomplice of Dutroux.
> >
> >
> > One witness claimed, Nihoul had ordered a girl.
> > Conerotte knew Nihoul had influential friends, he
> > suspected he was the brains behind a network supplying
> > clients with children to abuse. It's a charge Nihoul
> > denies.
> > Conerotte appealed to the public for information.
> >
> >
> > "When I saw him walking down the stairs, I thought that I
> > knew everything about him. It was a shock; I thought
> > finally they stopped him.
> > Regina Louf was one of the first to come forward. She
> > said that as a child she'd been abused for many years in a
> > paedophile network involving Nihoul and Dutroux.
> > I remember Jean Michel Nihoul as a very cruel man; he
> > abused children in a very sadistic way.
> >
> >
> > She says that at the age of twelve she was taken with
> > other children to sex parties. And, she told investigators,
> > Dutroux was there, working for Nihoul.
> >
> >
> > REGINA LOUF
> > "Dutroux was a boy who brought drugs, cocaine and
> > something like that, to these parties, who brought some
> > girls, watched girls at these parties. Nihoul, he, he was a
> > sort of party beast. Dutroux was more on the side."
> >
> >
> > Nihoul denies he's ever met Regina Louf. But her story's
> > never changed. Nihoul, she said, was one of those who
> > organised the parties and invited the cream of Belgian
> > society - judges, politicians and influential businessmen
> > in order to compromise them.
> >
> >
> > "It was big business, yeah and it was very well organised
> > too. There was a lot of money going on there and a lot of
> > blackmail also. They had a lot of parties; they filmed it
> > even. So, yes, yes, it exists. I know it sounds crazy and I
> > know that there is a big taboo on everything like that but
> > it exists."
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf's story was horrific. But her account of a
> > violent paedophile underworld was by now reinforced by
> > new witnesses, some of whom also named influential
> > people.
> >
> >
> > The investigation began. The witnesses' identities were
> > protected. Each was given a codename beginning with X.
> > Regina was X-1. They went up to X-9. Their testimonies
> > became known as Belgium's X-Files.
> >
> >
> > The task of trying to verify them fell to a young police
> > investigator.
> >
> >
> > RUDY HOSKENS
> > Team Leader, Police
> > investigation
> >
> >
> > "They were telling stories we hadn't heard before in our
> > lives. Things we couldn't believe at first. So we told
> > ourselves, is this true? Could this be true? And when it
> > is true it's very, it's very, it's frightening that things like
> > that could happen".
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > "We had a special room for the interviews. It was
> > specially kept for people who had been victimised by
> > such matters. There was a camera in the room. They
> > were done mostly in the evening or the early hours.
> > When the interviews were finished, they were written
> > down by a few people of my team, all the way from the
> > first word to the last, literally."
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > But before the investigation could get under way there
> > was a bombshell.
> >
> >
> > Jean Marc Conerotte, the man who'd arrested Dutroux,
> > who'd saved the imprisoned girls, was sacked from the
> > case.
> >
> >
> > His removal caused a public outcry. Belgians lost faith in
> > their judicial system: Crowds descended on the Palace of
> > Justice and accused the courts of colluding with the
> > killers.
> >
> >
> > Crowds shouting
> >
> >
> > The father of one of the murdered girls spoke for all.
> >
> >
> > Gino Russo
> > Subtitles
> >
> >
> > "This decision is like spitting on
> > the graves of Julie and Melissa."
> >
> >
> > Gino Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "As an investigating magistrate, Conerotte, who arrests
> > ten people and they sack him and they appoint another
> > investigation magistrate, Langlois, who's never done the
> > job before. It's his first appointment in the most
> > important investigation, in the biggest file of the century.
> > You're going to put in an investigating magistrate who's
> > never done the job before - can you understand that?"
> >
> >
> > Three hundred thousand outraged Belgians marched
> > through Brussels in a demonstration of grief and
> > solidarity. This White March was the largest protest the
> > country had ever seen.
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > Belgians felt that the dismissal of Conerotte was a
> > betrayal of Dutroux's victims, that it signalled the end of
> > any real search for a network.
> >
> >
> > The two rescued girls were overwhelmed.
> >
> >
> > Laetitia
> > Subtitle
> >
> >
> > "Thank you for coming in such large numbers."
> >
> >
> > Sabine
> > Subtitle
> >
> >
> > "Thank you all for coming."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > The country's highest legal authorities had removed the
> > only judge in which the public had any faith because he'd
> > attended a fund raising dinner for the families of missing
> > children. A conflict of interest they'd called it; a lack of
> > judgement. The government feared a revolution.
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > VINCENT DECROLY MP
> > "I think there were a kind of insurrection climate, a kind of
> > pre-revolutionary climate here. You know, the big
> > powers in Belgium so the magistrates and the political
> > circus, the government, the parliament, everything was
> > totally discredited, everything was totally discredited."
> >
> >
> > No one knew what to believe anymore. Rumour and
> > speculation spawned a variety of wild theories.
> >
> >
> > Actor
> > "You will instigate ultimate fear."
> > A full length feature film suggested the whole affair was part of an
> > extreme right wing plot to destabilise the country.
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > 'Blue Belgium'
> > by Rob Van Eyck
> >
> >
> > "I'm very pleased Victor. Three hundred thousand idiots
> > marching in Brussels and an ocean of white balloons -
> > magnificent! Pathetic and impressive at the same time.
> > We really got them exactly where we want them."
> >
> >
> > To appease the public's concern, parliament set up the
> > Dutroux Nihoul Commission.
> > subtitles
> >
> >
> > I propose that the commission
> > observe a moment's silence.
> >
> >
> > 00.15.22
> > Aston
> > VINCENT DECROLY MP
> > Commission member
> > As the pressure grew more and more they decided, in a
> > kind of panic climate, to create the commission because
> > the political world had to try to find an answer.
> >
> >
> > 00.15.35
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > But what the commission revealed was incompetence that
> > beggared belief.
> >
> >
> > Police had been told of Dutroux's plans to make money
> > by kidnapping children. They had his house under
> > surveillance throughout the abductions.
> >
> >
> > They even searched inside and heard the sound of
> > children but failed to find the dungeon.
> > What it established beyond doubt was that the girls could
> > have been saved.
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> > Commission member
> >
> >
> > They had everything they needed to arrest Dutroux.
> > That's the scandal of this affair. Dutroux was known; he
> > had previous form. They had valid intelligence that he'd
> > built the hiding place in the cellar for the little girls.
> > There was information from Charleroi that the children
> > could be at the house.
> > But when the parliamentary commission began to ask
> > why, was it incompetence or had someone in authority
> > protected Dutroux, co-operation with their investigation
> > stopped.
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > GINO RUSSO
> > Father of Melissa
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "It was completely sabotaged to the point that all the work
> > they did has been locked away in archives for thirty
> > years. It was parliament that voted that on itself. Can
> > you imagine?"
> >
> >
> > If the commission's job had been to restore stability, to
> > clear the air of insurrection, it worked.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > The danger to Belgium's establishment was over. But
> > there was still no answer to the most important question -
> > was the catalogue of failures pure incompetence or had
> > Dutroux and his friends enjoyed protection?
> >
> >
> > Were they protected?
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> > Commission member
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "On the question of protection we didn't discover much,
> > unless you count the best protection that Dutroux could
> > have had and that's the incompetence of Belgium's police
> > and judicial system."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> >
> >
> > But Jean Michel Nihoul, the man suspected of hiring
> > Dutroux to kidnap children, was released from jail after
> > just five months. It's still unclear if he'll ever come to
> > trial and some members of the commission remain
> > convinced he is protected.
> >
> >
> > Vincent Decroly
> > "We succeeded in demonstrating that Nihoul was really an
> > artist in protection, really a specialised man in
> > manipulating enquiries, policemen and judges. We had
> > proof about that."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Nihoul's release just left more unanswered questions for
> > the families. The mother of Melissa, Carine Russo, has
> > access to the legal evidence the court will bring against
> > Dutroux.
> > She's found no answers, nothing to clarify who stole,
> > raped and killed her daughter. All charges Dutroux
> > denies.
> > Carine Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "Five years on there's still no admission from Dutroux.
> > There's no material evidence, no witness statements,
> > which state that it was Dutroux who really kidnapped the
> > children, who really raped them and who really killed
> > them."
> >
> >
> > 00.18.57
> > Gino Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "It's a catastrophe because nothing is anymore clear
> > today. Nothing is clear."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > The parents suspect Dutroux was not acting alone. That
> > others were involved in abducting and hiding the girls.
> >
> >
> > When he was briefly imprisoned for car theft in
> > November 1995, Dutroux claims to have left the girls in
> > his cellar, in this specially constructed cage with a little
> > food and water.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > On his release, after nearly four months, Dutroux claims
> > he'd found the children barely alive, that he tried to save
> > them but they died in his arms.
> >
> >
> > But for the Russos, this story can't be true.
> >
> >
> > Carine Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "Four months incarceration of two little girls of eight
> > years old in a cellar in the middle of winter. But when I
> > say cellar it's a little hide built inside the cellar, so it's
> > tiny, three metres by two, even less. No windows,
> > completely dark, they cut off the heating."
> >
> >
> > Gino Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > They cut the electricity and heat.
> >
> >
> > Carine Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > And no food - for four months. Then he says when he
> > came out of prison four months later, they're still alive.
> > Well then they're superhuman. It's unimaginable two
> > children of eight holding out, alone, with nothing to
> > sustain them - no food, no heat, no human, no
> > psychological contact. Nothing. In a little cage like that
> > for such a long time and survive.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > So how did they survive so long? Did someone else keep
> > them alive?
> >
> >
> > The Palace of Justice in Liege is the seat of one of
> > Belgium's most powerful figures - Prosecutor General
> > Anne Thily, who's in charge of the case.
> >
> >
> > She says there's no evidence to contradict Dutroux's
> > version of how the children died.
> > So how did the children survive so long? Nearly four
> > months, until Dutroux was released from prison.
> > 00.21.12
> > Aston
> > ANNE THILY
> > Prosecutor General
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > No, no, Julie was dead. Melissa was nearly dead and
> > then she died. I think it was the next day.
> >
> >
> > But Melissa, how could she have survived nearly four
> > months?
> > Anne Thily
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > Survive in what condition? In a lamentable state, she
> > was so weak she could not get up. That's according to
> > Dutroux of course; no one else was there.
> >
> >
> > Dutroux was acting alone. This is the mantra repeated
> > again and again in Belgium with a certitude that for the
> > victims' parents is inexplicable.
> >
> >
> > They believe that investigators have blocked every lead,
> > rejected every clue, which would reveal that Dutroux was
> > kidnapping girls for someone else.
> >
> >
> > Most painful perhaps is the autopsy report, which shows
> > Melissa had been repeatedly raped about two weeks
> > before her death, while Dutroux was in jail.
> >
> >
> > So who raped this child? Dutroux denies he raped the
> > girls.
> >
> >
> > But isn't it simple to find out if Dutroux raped them or
> > someone else - scientifically?
> >
> >
> > Carine Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "Normally yes, in principal, yes. But in fact the most
> > elementary scientific tests, like DNA tests, the traces of
> > the culprit on the body of the child, were just not done."
> >
> >
> > Back in the Palace of Justice they say the DNA tests were
> > done but the results were inconclusive.
> >
> >
> > Can you explain why there was no DNA analysis done?
> >
> >
> > Anne Thily
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > DNA analysis was done Madame!
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > And the results?
> >
> >
> > Anne Thily
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > Nothing.
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > What does that mean? That there was no trace of sperm?
> > Anne Thily
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > They were in a very putrefied state. It did not allow us to
> > make an analysis of that type, of sperm or anything.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > That's not what's written in the autopsy report. Again
> > the story doesn't square.
> >
> >
> > The bodies weren't severely decomposed. DNA can be
> > identified from samples taken long after death. The
> > question remains unanswered - why is there no DNA
> > result, might it have shown that someone else had raped
> > Melissa?
> >
> >
> > Other forensic tests that should have been routine were
> > just not done. Human hairs collected from Dutroux's
> > dungeon weren't sent for analysis.
> >
> >
> > The logic was strange. They claimed that as there was no
> > evidence anyone else had entered the cage, there was no
> > need to analyse the hair.
> >
> >
> > In five years Conerotte's successor has shed no light on
> > the abduction, imprisonment or death of the girls.
> >
> >
> > Jacques Langlois refused to be interviewed.
> >
> >
> > PAUL MARCHAL
> > Father
> > "Langlois don't believe in a sort of network. For Langlois,
> > Dutroux is the only one who used the girls. For Langlois
> > it's, it's simple; there's one raper, Dutroux, a closed case."
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > By the Spring of 1997, evidence of a paedophile network
> > linked to the Dutroux affair was emerging from the
> > testimony of the X witnesses.
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf had provided investigators with details of
> > her childhood abuse, which they'd begun to check.
> >
> >
> > RUDY HOSKENS
> > Team Leader, Police
> > investigation
> > "In one of her testimonies she explained how a certain
> > person had been murdered in a certain place. So, we
> > went to look for that case, that old case, she described it,
> > where it happened more or less."
> >
> >
> > REGINA LOUF
> > "I remember it like it's a film in my head. I can close my
> > eyes and see every little detail of that house she was
> > murdered."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Regina Louf described a house where in 1984 she said
> > she saw the torture and murder of a young girl. The
> > house was connected to an underground mushroom farm.
> >
> >
> > The building has since been demolished. But Rudy
> > Hoskens' team identified it and matched Regina's story
> > to an unsolved murder - that of fifteen year old Christine
> > van Hees.
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > "She gave us some details that made us think it's
> > impossible to give without having been there at that
> > place, or without having, yeah, lived that in the way the
> > body was found at that time and the way she described
> > the person was, was killed. There were some things that
> > were exact."
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "It was a sort of bondage, so her legs and her hands and
> > her throat were connected with the same rope and when
> > she moved she strangled herself, yeah."
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > The credibility of Regina Louf's testimony hinged partly
> > on whether she really knew the house where Christine
> > Van Hees was killed.
> >
> >
> > This man grew up there, though his family sold it before
> > the murder.
> > It was two houses knocked into one with a unique
> > passage of stairs and corridors. No one, he says, could
> > describe it unless they'd been there.
> >
> >
> > Man
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "There was the corridor here between the two houses.
> > And she drew a picture of the doors inside. They were
> > antique doors and she drew the mouldings. She
> > described the wallpaper and the front step. I don't know
> > how she could have described it all so faithfully if she'd
> > never entered the house."
> >
> >
> > Man
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "I don't know Regina Louf; I've never even met her. All I
> > know is from her description of the house, of the
> > mushroom farm, my brother and I agreed, I'm sure, it's
> > certain she entered the mushroom farm. It's certain. "
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > The police were now convinced they were on to
> > something. That Regina Louf's testimony was credible.
> >
> >
> > What's more it gave them a new link between Marc
> > Dutroux and the man accused of being his boss, Jean
> > Michel Nihoul.
> >
> >
> > In the year before her death, Christine Van Hees was a
> > regular visitor to the Brussels ice-rink where Marc
> > Dutroux also went.
> >
> >
> > He'd already been banned from the rink in Charleroi
> > where he was notorious for molesting girls. The manager
> > remembers it well.
> >
> >
> > Ice rink manager
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "And then I saw him with a young girl who was up against
> > the lockers like this. And Dutroux, who was in front of
> > her with his hands all over her like this."
> >
> >
> > So I grabbed him and pulled him back and brought him
> > over here. At that moment my father-in-law turned up
> > and when he found out what was happening he wanted to
> > hit him. So I grabbed his arm, otherwise he would have
> > punched him."
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> >
> >
> > When she wasn't skating Christine Van Hees used to
> > spend time in the building of a pirate radio station. It
> > belonged to Jean Michel Nihoul.
> >
> >
> > Both men, Dutroux and Nihoul, were at Christine Van
> > Hees's murder, according to Regina Louf.
> >
> >
> > And Dutroux was involved in the murder?
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "He watched it and he didn't do something, anything and
> > also he abused her that night, so, yes, he was involved."
> >
> >
> > How many people were there?
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "I still don't know for sure. But around eight."
> >
> >
> > Nihoul, Dutroux?
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "And a lot of others. So. But everybody except Dutroux
> > is free."
> >
> >
> > Oenka Frenkiel
> > Nihoul denied it. But her testimony was dynamite. If
> > true, it meant Dutroux and Nihoul were linked with
> > another murder. But then out of the blue the
> > investigation was stopped.
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > "We received a message that we couldn't investigate
> > anymore just like that. We were sent home. Just like
> > that, without an explanation because our work hadn't
> > been done all right. Very strange."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Why were you taken off this case?
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > "I wish I knew. Perhaps we were touching something we,
> > we couldn't touch. Some people say this, we didn't have
> > the proof at that moment to say things like that but
> > perhaps we were coming closer to some things, yeah,
> > perhaps."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Like what things?
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > I don't know, something Belgium or the world shouldn't
> > know about.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Patric De Baets, the head of Hoskens' team, had been one
> > of Belgium's most respected police investigators. It was
> > he who'd taken Regina's testimony. Now he too was sent
> > home, accused of manipulating her evidence.
> >
> >
> > Patric De Baets, who questioned her, was accused of
> > planting some of the information so that she would
> > reproduce it. You watched that investigation. Was that
> > true?
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > No, no way. No way. We even had some magistrates,
> > judges and superior gendarmerie officers watching how
> > we interviewed and they watched it from the first to the
> > last moment and if we did, hadn't done it right at that
> > time, they should have said to us, don't work that way.
> > But they didn't tell us anything.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > For De Baets and his colleagues, charged with
> > manipulating an enquiry, a Kafkaesque battle now began
> > to clear their names.
> >
> >
> > They were suspended and Regina Louf got a call from a
> > member of the new team assigned in their place. His
> > motive was clear.
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "He said well, we have to search for mistakes you made
> > now and you have to prove now that you were right. I
> > said no, I don't have to prove that I'm right. You have to
> > investigate if I'm right or not. I'm not a police officer, I
> > can't do house search and I can't interrogate my abusers,
> > you have to do that. I just can tell my story and, and
> > make testimony, that's all I can do. He said wrong, you
> > have to prove it."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > News about Regina's story began to leak out.
> >
> >
> > When the media took it up, it was to destroy her.
> >
> >
> > Voice over
> > Subtitles
> >
> >
> > "X-1 and her fantasies -
> > an investigation beyond the real."
> >
> >
> > Presenter
> > Madame, Monsieur, bonsoir...
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > The flagship programme of the government funded
> > French language channel was unequivocal. De Baets was
> > guilty they declared and Regain Louf, a sinister and
> > deranged liar.
> >
> >
> > Claude Eerdekens
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > I think Regina Louf is a pathological liar. She's a
> > woman who's invented scenarios that don't stand up to
> > scrutiny. It's all been shown to be fiction.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Well no, not according to the investigators who were
> > sacked. They don't agree with you, they say they weren't
> > even allowed to investigate.
> >
> >
> > Claude Eerdekens
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > No, that's not accurate. I continue to believe these men
> > did not do their jobs properly and that they let the public
> > think that what Regina Louf and the other anonymous
> > witnesses said was partly true. That's all a tissue of lies,
> > stories verging on the pornographic. They make no
> > sense.
> >
> >
> > Oenka Frenkiel
> > Weren't you manipulated? I mean people have said she
> > was completely mad; she invented the whole thing.
> >
> >
> > Rudy Hoskens
> > "Well some people fear, some people say this but they
> > weren't there. We lived all the testimonies, we've seen
> > them, we did the investigations. So, for ourselves, we
> > know what should have been right or what could have
> > been wrong. But when you don't, when you haven't
> > lived it, when you haven't seen everything, you can't give
> > an opinion on this, it's impossible. But we found some
> > things that should have been investigated more."
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "I am married for thirteen years, I have four children, I live
> > a normal life. I have a business of my own so I am not
> > crazy. We are labelled as crazy, we have a stigma, we are
> > stigmatised as crazy persons because we had the courage
> > to talk about things that happened in our past. With
> > person who played a role in the Belgian economy or
> > politics or something like that. It was easier to make us
> > crazy than to believe us."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Despite its earlier investigating zeal, Belgium's
> > parliament now stood by as Regina Louf's testimony was
> > declared worthless. The judiciary announced it would
> > not be used in any trial.
> >
> >
> > Snf that might have been the end of it had the files of the
> > entire Dutroux investigation not been leaked.
> >
> >
> > Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck and two other investigative
> > journalists had access to every witness statement, every
> > police report in the Dutroux affair.
> >
> >
> > Their book on Belgium's X-Files shook the country.
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > How did you get the information for the book?
> >
> >
> > Aston
> > MARIE-JEANNE VAN
> > HEESWYCK
> > Journalist
> > "We had the opportunity to see the whole police file on
> > the, the affair and the problem is that we wanted to be
> > sure that there was no manipulation between, behind that
> > because it's, it's always possible. So, we decided to meet
> > a lot of people who were named in the files, who were
> > witnesses in the file. And we met those people, without
> > saying that, what we knew already. And we listened to
> > their story."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > They found the new team had rewritten Regina Louf's
> > original statements. Testimony had been changed.
> >
> >
> > Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck
> > "We began to check it. And we began to read again all the
> > questioning of Regina Louf to see how they did that,
> > rewrite it. And one by one we discovered that the
> > gendarmes, police of De Baets, had pretended that De
> > Baets manipulate, had manipulated the investigation. So
> > everybody was tricked."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > To this day no evidence has ever been produced to
> > support the allegations against De Baets. Yet he
> > continues to be accused.
> >
> >
> > I met him and his colleague in a Brussels café.
> >
> >
> > Their careers are in ruins and the investigation into
> > Regina's story is dead. And yet two separate inquires,
> > cleared them of every charge that they manipulated her
> > testimony.
> >
> >
> > Patric De Baets
> > "I show you the final report of the internal inquiry of the
> > gendarmerie. It was made twenty-sixth June 2000."
> >
> >
> > Frenkiel
> > So what does this mean?
> >
> >
> > Patric De Baets
> > "That I'm not a bad policeman."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > But now that's cleared you, you face new, new charges,
> > new allegations, new accusations against you.
> >
> >
> > Patric De Baets
> > I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid of that because I know the
> > conclusions will be the same.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > But why this constant barrage of accusations?
> >
> >
> > Patric De Baets
> > I don't know. I can imagination things but I can't explain
> > them.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > For six years the parents of the murdered girls have
> > grappled with the inexplicable. Why were their
> > daughters left to die? Why has Dutroux never come to
> > trial and why has every lead that might have revealed a
> > network behind Dutroux been blocked or ignored?
> >
> >
> > But Belgium's lost interest in their struggle. Today
> > anyone who talks of a network, even the parents, is
> > dismissed as deranged.
> >
> >
> > Paul Marchal
> > I talked in press about children who were raped and so on
> > and they started again with saying that I'm a little bit
> > foolish and that I'm fantasising. I'm sure that in several
> > years everyone will believe that networks will exist then
> > they have to accept.
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Since Marc Dutroux's arrest anyone who's questioned
> > the official line has been attacked. Every lead that might
> > have widened the net has hit the buffers.
> >
> >
> > Dutroux meanwhile has sat in jail. But outside, in the
> > shadowy circles in which he moved, potential witnesses
> > in the Dutroux affair have died in strange ways.
> >
> >
> > A police informer with links to the Charleroi underworld,
> > Jose Steppe, told a journalist he had explosive
> > information on Dutroux. Two days before they were due
> > to meet he died. His family believes he was poisoned.
> >
> >
> > Jean Paul Tamino was up to his neck in the Charleroi
> > underworld of stolen cars and prostitution. He was
> > summoned to see the Charleroi police and disappeared.
> > The day of Dutroux's arrest his foot was fished out of the
> > canal.
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "It's quite a coincidence that they die just before they want
> > to testify, you know, that's strange."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Social worker, Gina Pardaens worked with abused
> > children. She'd identified the paedophile members of a
> > pornography ring who'd threatened her. When she
> > reported the threat to the police she was killed in an
> > unexplained car crash.
> >
> >
> > Francois Reyskens told a friend he'd seen one of the
> > missing girls, Melissa, alive in Holland. Before he could
> > tell the police his body was found crushed on the railway
> > line. (sound of Train).
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Some twenty people, all potential witnesses in the
> > Dutroux affair, have died in mysterious circumstances.
> > Regina Louf
> > "I survived it all, I don't know why. I survived my
> > abusers, I survived my testimony just because I said it all.
> > Why kill me now, you know, I'm mad."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > An uneasy peace has returned to Belgium. The streets
> > are calm; the danger of insurrection has passed.
> > The paedophile networks persist. Sometimes there are
> > even arrests. Earlier this year nineteen men from one
> > village were charged with child rape.
> >
> >
> > But the Dutroux affair has paralysed Belgium's judiciary.
> > After six years in jail, there is still no date for his trial.
> > When it comes, it will satisfy no one.
> >
> >
> > Paul Marchal
> > The trial of Dutroux, it will be a theatre, circus and I
> > don't want to be part of a circus. The truth is that there is
> > a network and that they have to search for that network so
> > that you can save other children in the future.
> >
> >
> > Carine Russo
> > Voice over
> >
> >
> > "In this country we will never get to the truth. There is
> > just too much truth that needs to be exposed. I am
> > certain that the people want to understand; they are
> > capable of understanding a lot more than the politicians
> > and judiciary want to tell them. They treat the public like
> > children."
> >
> >
> > Regina Louf
> > "I did what I could do. I testified, I spoke up to the police,
> > to the judges, I spoke up to the press, you know, I yelled
> > it out. What can I do anymore now, I can't."
> >
> >
> > Olenka Frenkiel
> > Children continue to go missing in Belgium. Dutroux's
> > arrest has made no difference. Last year it was more than
> > two thousand.
> > Fifty-two of those cases remain unsolved.
> >
> >
> > Voice over
> > Olenka Frenkiel is live on-line now. Express your
> > opinions and e-mail her your questions at:
> >
> >
> > www.bbc.co.uk/correspondent
> >
> >
> > Reporter
> > OLENKA FRENKIEL
> > ****************
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=203148388
> >
> >
> > Latest on Canadian Pig Farmer, Robert Pickton's Serial Murder Trial:
> > Judge Steps Down
> > Published on Thursday, June 02, 2005 | Author MORRIS, Nick.
> >
> >
> > Justice Geoffrey Barrow of British Columbia Supreme Court, the judge
> > that was scheduled to preside over Canada's most prolific murder case
> > was replaced Wednesday just days into pre-trial proceedings.
> >
> >
> > Justice Barrow is stepping down from the trial of Robert Pickton, who
> > stands accused of at least 22 murders and is believed to be Canada's
> > most prolific serial killer.
> >
> >
> > Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm informed lawyers at a short
> > hearing that Justice Barrow cannot hear the case due to "scheduling
> > problems."
> >
> >
> > Dohm said he'll be replaced by Justice James Williams, who normally
> > sits in New Westminster's Supreme Court.
> >
> >
> > Pickton watched the events unfold as he appeared via a video link from
> > the pre-trial centre, where he is currently incarcerated. Dressed in a
> > black and grey shirt, he passively observed the scene in the courtroom.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pickton viewed proceedings via video link.
> > Pickton viewed proceedings via video link. (?AP)
> >
> >
> > Justice Barrow had only heard two days worth of arguments for and
> > against a strict publication ban on pre-trial proceedings, that has
> > been imposed on the trial. The hearing is due to resume on Friday and
> > lawyers have been informed that they will need to recap their views on
> > the ban. Dohm has said "The court will not lose any real time in this
> > change."
> >
> >
> > Pickton, a pig farmer from Vancouver's Port Coquitlam district has been
> >
> >
> >
> > in custody since his arrest on 7 February 2002, following a lengthy
> > search of his farm and other properties he has owned. The search
> > revealed the remains of 15 bodies located on his farm.
> >
> >
> > In January of 2004 the remains of a further 10 women were found. In
> > total 31 separate traces of DNA have been found on Pickton's property.
> >
> >
> > Most of the victims are believed to have been vulnerable women working
> > in the sex-trade in Vancouver's seedy Downtown Eastside area. The first
> >
> >
> >
> > woman to go missing from the area was Rebecca Guno, a prostitute and
> > drug addict, in June of 1983.
> >
> >
> > Since her disappearance, 61 women have been reported as missing from
> > the BC area. It was not until early 2002, 19 years after the first
> > woman vanished, that police made any charges in connection with any of
> > the disappearances.
> >
> >
> > After a few months of searching Pickton's pig farm, police charged him
> > with seven counts of murder. In September and October of 2002 he was
> > charged with a further eight counts of murder, following the discovery
> > of yet more remains on his property. DNA traces of another victim were
> > discovered on 9 January 2003, just days before Pickton's 13 January
> > pre-trial, but officers announced that they would not be adding any
> > further charges until afterwards, fearing that it would cause lengthy
> > delays to the case.
> >
> >
> > Crown prosecutor Mike Petrie and Pickton's defence lawyer Peter Ritchie
> >
> >
> >
> > would not comment on the reasons behind the switch of judges and how
> > they felt about it, but the public opinion is one of surprise. Many
> > feel that problems such as scheduling should have been considered
> > before the preliminary hearing began. The general consensus was that
> > the trial would continue into next year.
> >
> >
> > Justice James Williams will preside over the restarted preliminary
> > hearing when it starts this Friday.
> > ********************
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yxbp83
> >
> >
> > 'On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been
> > ground up and mixed with pork from the farm.
> > This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to
> > friends and visitors of the farm.'
> > *************
> > the way this system operates is that key people are put in key places.
> > For example
> >
> >
> > Republican (so-called conservative) Congressman Mark Foley was revealed
> >
> >
> >
> > to be aggressively gay in pursuit of male teenagers and youth working
> > as pages in the house.
> > Then we find that he was placed in positions to influence policy
> > in certain ways:
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yx269u
> > 'Foley played a leadership role on AIDS issues, supported the
> > Employment Not-Discrimination Act, opposed anti-gay provisions of
> > faith-based legislation, and voted against the Federal Marriage
> > Amendment.
> > He also co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's
> > Caucus and helped to write much of the legislation regarding
> > prosecution of pedophiles and child pornographers.'
> >
> >
> > ******************
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > http://xfilescanada.spaces.live.com/blog/
> >
> >
> > Pickton Murders
> >
> >
> > The lawyer representing U.S. television stations said he does
> > not believe the publication ban covers the Internet.
> > But the stations have said they will black out transmissions
> > to Canada.
> > RCMP Const. Katherine Galliford said "police will be watching
> > for violations of the publication ban." She goes on to say
> > "And if there are any concerns that come to light we'll
> > certainly investigate that further," Mentioning nothing about
> > possible connections to missing children, or other serial
> > killers involved in satanic cults reaching at least from
> > Mission to Vancouver. She makes no comment that the police
> > have stood down their watch on the Vancouver East Side.
> >
> >
> > In May 2005, Crown attorneys added 12 more first-degree murder
> > charges against Pickton, bringing the grim total to 27.
> > Rebecca Guno, a drug addict and prostitute, vanished from
> > Vancouver's downtown eastside in June 1983. Her name was the
> > first of 61 that would eventually be placed on the list of
> > women to disappear mysteriously from the drug-infested area
> > over the two decades that followed.
> > It wasn't until 19 years later, early in 2002, that charges
> > were laid in any of the cases. The charges came not long after
> > police focused their efforts on a farm in Port Coquitlam,
> > outside Vancouver. Dozens of officers scoured the farm in
> > search of evidence.
> > Within months, the owner of that farm, 53-year-old Robert
> > William Pickton, would face seven murder charges.
> > September 1998: - Vancouver police set up a team to review
> > files of up to 40 women missing as far back as 1971. One
> > tracked down, deaths of two others from illeness, overdose,
> > confirmed but no trace of many others.
> > In July 2002, police made a plea for the public's help in
> > locating nine more missing women, and said that if they cannot
> > be found, their names will be added to the list of 54 other
> > women who are missing.
> > In the spring of 1999, two Vancouver detectives teamed up with
> > two RCMP detectives to review the file pertaining to the 31
> > missing women. In August of that year police began
> > investigating an account by a woman, not a prostitute, who
> > said that a man snatched her from the stairwell of a hotel in
> > Vancouver's downtown eastside. The woman jumped from her
> > captor's moving vehicle to escape.
> > Accusations that police haven't done enough reached a fever
> > pitch when former detective and geographic profiler Kim Rossmo
> > claimed he told police that a serial killer was at work in the
> > Vancouver area and was ignored. Rossmo said that
> > disappearances from the neighborhood were normal, but that the
> > number of incidents was abnormally high between 1995 and 1998.
> >
> >
> > "If these activities go back to, say, 1995, seven years ago,
> > some of (the victims) could be buried fairly deep," says
> > former Vancouver police officer Kim Rossmo, an expert in
> > serial killers. Contrary to his earlier statment for some
> > unknown reason, he later says,"Now, one factor to the benefit
> > of the police is criminals are lazy, so they're not going to
> > be 40 feet below the surface,"
> > Rossmo, who sued the Vancouver department for wrongful
> > dismissal when they failed to renew his contract, claimed that
> > a single predator was responsible for killing prostitutes in
> > downtown Vancouver. The Vancouver department dismissed his
> > claims as sour grapes.
> >
> >
> > In 1998 I was introduced to Willy Pickton by a local Freemason
> >
> >
> > West Baker. "Be careful, not everyone that has gone down that
> >
> >
> > road has come back" was the ominous warning he gave me, he
> >
> >
> > also warned me to stay out of the pig barn after 11:00 pm, or
> >
> >
> > I would be horrified at what I saw, as Willy liked to butcher
> >
> >
> > all different kinds of animals, in all different ways, like a
> >
> >
> > Nazi doctor experimenting on Jews might. At first it seemed
> >
> >
> > there was very little out of the ordinary, except the saturday
> >
> >
> > "cock fights", and the all night orgies and strange foods at
> >
> >
> > "Piggies Palace" however, after the news broke in 2002, creepy
> >
> >
> > things just outside of my awareness started to make a whole
> >
> >
> > lot more sense, and I, having done business there, was
> >
> >
> > publicly requested to give a statment to the police. So I
> >
> >
> > attended a series of interviews with the police "Missing
> >
> >
> > women's task force" regarding the matter and submitted my dna
> >
> >
> > sample as requested, spent hours under the lights and camera,
> >
> >
> > almost as if I was on the spot. I was assured my dna would
> >
> >
> > only be used in this case, I found this to be untrue, much
> >
> >
> > later. I noticed something strange about the whole thing
> >
> >
> > though. Appathy. They didn't seem to care about the
> >
> >
> > implications of what I said, they were more interested in what
> >
> >
> > I knew, they didn't seem to have the humanity, they were
> >
> >
> > strangly detached, so I tested them a little, and found them
> >
> >
> > not interested in the victims, or the truth behind the
> >
> >
> > implications. I suggested, perhapse they start a missing
> >
> >
> > children's task force, they thought that was funny, their
> >
> >
> > micro expressions gave that away, though they didn't laugh.
> >
> >
> > All of a sudden, it dawned on me, their in on it, the
> >
> >
> > vancouver police were rounding them up, and Willy Pickton who
> >
> >
> > dealt with them on a weekly basis, (he had an inside track on
> >
> >
> > abandoned vehicles), was getting another cleanup contract, all
> >
> >
> > the girls who were robbing the other drug addicts, instead of
> >
> >
> > normal citizens, and were unable to re-pay their dealers, and
> >
> >
> > had deteriorated (look at their faces) to a point as to be
> >
> >
> > useless as prostitutes, were flaged by the Hell's Angels.
> >
> >
> > Delivered to the farm in abandoned vehicles, and proccessed by
> >
> >
> > Willy who was a mechanic, and a butcher. I realised the
> >
> >
> > taskforce was compromised some how, so I pretended to still be
> >
> >
> > their friend, and conducted my own investigation. As my own
> >
> >
> > investigations, and "interviews" later revieled, the victim's
> >
> >
> > thyroid glands, adrenaline glands, and other "Delacacies" were
> >
> >
> > extracted from the dead, or sometimes still living beings,
> >
> >
> > before the rest was put through a wood chipper, and fed to the
> >
> >
> > "Piggies" Willy called them. Before the Media Ban, the Mayor
> >
> >
> > of Port Coquitlam admitted to dining at a farm also owned by
> >
> >
> > the Picktons, just down the road from Dominion St, there is an
> >
> >
> > ominous quancet, on Burns Road the infamous "Piggies Palace".
> >
> >
> > There were blood rituals there, adrenaline glands as
> >
> >
> > appatizers, next to the cocaine dishes, during an all night
> >
> >
> > orgy, the girls not yet ready to be served were kept captive
> >
> >
> > at another location, and brought out as they were needed, for
> >
> >
> > what ever purpose...so... here I am, kind of the odd man out
> >
> >
> > so to speak, surrounded by vampyres, from dusk till dawn, so
> >
> >
> > to speak with no real idea what was going on until much later.
> >
> >
> > Politicans connected to Hell's Angels, connected to free
> >
> >
> > Masons, oddfellows, illuminati, witches, warlocks, satanists,
> >
> >
> > police, my "friends". Judges that put the media ban on this
> >
> >
> > are in league with them as well too, Conrad Black owns all of
> >
> >
> > our media, is a buildiberger. It would seem that these secret
> >
> >
> > societies run our whole world, and they eat us too. Well, I
> >
> >
> > really didn't expect to find this but I did. After the horror
> >
> >
> > I saw, it will be a release if they come to kill me, cause I
> >
> >
> > havn't even got to the best part yet, the tunnels. More of the
> >
> >
> > missing woman and children should be found in the old train
> >
> >
> > tunnels of New Westminster, than run deep underground to
> >
> >
> > vancouver and to coquitlam, where they are blood fed, and put
> >
> >
> > to use as required, people often hear them under the city, in
> >
> >
> > the sewers, and under the stores along Front St. women
> >
> >
> > sobbing, children crying, they are believed to be ghosts when
> >
> >
> > heard, so people back track real quick, and never made the
> >
> >
> > true discovery yet, but I did. Take a walk in the old
> >
> >
> > abandoned train tunnel at waterfront station in Vancouver if
> >
> >
> > you want to meet them. Most of those people are no longer
> >
> >
> > people anymore, they would kill a person who tryed to save
> >
> >
> > them, like a cat raised in an apartment, they would run from
> >
> >
> > an open door to freedom. The royal engineers from old
> > Westminster in England, brought these tunneling practices from
> >
> >
> > their country over here, as well as their secret societies,
> >
> >
> > and did their merlin black magic rituals with them.
> > Some of those people in the tunnels, have been born and raised
> >
> >
> > there, and they eat their dead. I just don't think social
> >
> >
> > services can handle that kind of rehabilitation, I don't know
> >
> >
> > just what we should do, it would appear if you follow the
> >
> >
> > traces, back through the Freemasons and such...I bet even the
> >
> >
> > Queen is blood fed...no wonder heaven won't help us. Somehow
> >
> >
> > Dave pickton got the contract to demolish and excavate
> >
> >
> > Woodlands Insane Assylum, fitting, he has experience
> >
> >
> > excavating mass unmarked graves, who else would the city of
> >
> >
> > New Westmonster call. Did you ever wonder where all of those
> >
> >
> > in-patients from RiverView and Woodlands went?? They did't
> >
> >
> > just release 500 insane people... did they? P and B Used
> >
> >
> > Building Supplies, and P and B Salvage are just two of the
> >
> >
> > companies owned by Dave and family. I heard another recent
> >
> >
> > little tid bit from the Pickton's self proclaimed "good
> >
> >
> > friend" of 25 years, West Baker, who runs the surplus store
> >
> >
> > 623 front street, New Westminster, who has 200 institutional
> >
> >
> > meal trays in his back store-room (for some reason), and an
> >
> >
> > access tunnel to the underground cattacombs of New West, who
> >
> >
> > has strong connections (sells them explosives such as live
> >
> >
> > grenades) with local Nazi activists, (Dale you know who you
> >
> >
> > are) who also lives commonlaw with Kathy Arcand, Dave
> >
> >
> > Pickton's Ex-Goulfriend. West claimes that Willy Pickton owns
> >
> >
> > all the land that the Picktons still hold, they just switched
> >
> >
> > around the titles and holdings, and the fun loving Willy is
> >
> >
> > ripping us tax payers off for a team of lawyers that he
> >
> >
> > doesn't pay for, so when they all help him get away with it
> >
> >
> > too, like they did when he went to trial in 1994 for stabbing
> >
> >
> > a prostitute in the back several times, she managed the knife
> >
> >
> > away from him and slit his throat in self defence, so he got
> >
> >
> > off... So i'ts business as usual, Dave wont even speak to
> >
> >
> > Willy, because he doesn't want to blow their cover. Dave goes
> >
> >
> > to Sturges, where they make their plans for September... As
> >
> >
> > for this going on elseware, I think all the world should check
> >
> >
> > very carefully for strange things in the cattacombs and
> >
> >
> > tunnels of their cities, you never know, there could be
> >
> >
> > someones loved one there, waiting for the light of day.
> > ****************
> > check out the blood-drinker headed down into what could be
> > one of North Korea's tunnels:
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yldqb8
> >
> >
> > this brief segment of street-level surveillance video of street-goers
> > was
> > shot in one of North Korea's occult power centers, all shot within
> > close proximity of oneanother (area dominated by massive masonic
> > obelisk monument) over the course of one morning.
> > a bureaucratic office complex area infested with military police and
> > what appear to be bureaucrats.
> >
> >
> > (the person is pale, with a red scarf, and a white shirt stained with
> > blood)
> >
> >
> > ************
> >
> >
> > for an idea of how crazy things can get watch The Clinton Chronicles:
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3251077391435895140&q=clinton...
> >
> >
> >
> > ************
> >
> >
> > Hells Angels
> >
> >
> > The Hells Angels actually have a direct connection & origin with Skull
> > n' Bones.
> >
> >
> > It might seem bizarre but here it is:
> >
> >
> > The Hells Angels in the early days were made up in large part of
> > Vietnam War veterans, who brought back with them their penchant for
> > opium trafficking. There was a huge illicit drug trade component to the
> >
> >
> >
> > Korean and Vietnamese wars. A good Hollywood film about this is the
> > film Air America starring Mel Gibson (1990) about the CIA's private
> > airline, and their drug smuggling operations in Cambodia (CIA sold
> > drugs and guns in Laos during the Vietnam War to finance its secret
> > operations in SouthEast asia)
> > Anyway, there are some who say the Vietnam War was exactly what JFK
> > thought it was and tried to prevent: an unecessary war that turned out
> > to be nothing more than a gigantic arms dealer / drug lord scam foisted
> >
> >
> >
> > on the American people. The war meant tens of billions to American gun,
> >
> >
> >
> > armaments, chemical weapons, and munitions dealers, not to mention drug
> >
> >
> >
> > lords, and when JFK threatened to disband the CIA and cease their plans
> >
> >
> >
> > for the war in Vietnam, it was one of the reasons that the CIA
> > assassinated JFK.
> > watch JFKII on Google video for an excellent recap of why JFK was
> > killed and who did it.
> > Anyway, the Hells Angels was composed largely of 'retired' and
> > drug-addicted Vietnam-era CIA operatives and cocaine-snorting war
> > veterans.(burnouts) who had lived their entire careers /lives
> > outside/above the law during their varous oversees and domestic
> > adventures. They were not a very pleasant group of people . George Bush
> >
> >
> >
> > Senior and his CIA skull n' Bones clan assassinated JFK & launched the
> > Vietnam War under Lyndon B. Johnson. The Hells Angels have always been
> > a distribution conduit/network for illegal drugs imported by the CIA
> > into NA. (Guess they were sick of letting the Italian mafiosos make all
> >
> >
> >
> > the money! so they let their fellow Bonesmen's friends and CIA running
> > dogs take over a lot of the street traffic.
> > So, now you know why the Angels always seem to be connected with this
> > occult stuff. They are called 'Hells'' Angels for a reason, you know!
> > To get up to speed on the whole JFK thing watch the following
> > film online here: http://tinyurl.com/yfja2y JFK II
> >
> >
> > and also rent Oliver Stone's 1991 film 'JFK', starring Kevin Costner as
> >
> >
> >
> > chief prosecutor .
> >
> >
> > I have little doubt now that many of these 'serial murders' throughout
> > the christian world, are actually ritual rapes and blood-drinkings and
> > burnings carried out by Skull n' Bones -type cults, involving
> > essentially the most dangerous and brazen and deadly people in the
> > world: the Secret Services and Intellegencia at the pinnacle of the
> > world's political and economic elite..
> > It could be that these bodies are being discarded from flying planes in
> >
> >
> >
> > the same that these planes do regular drug drops.
> >
> >
> > actually my background on the Hell's Angels was not quite accurate, in
> > that it implied that the Hell's Angels formed only after the Vietnam
> > War.
> > The gang actually had its roots from the Korean war, because a big part
> >
> >
> >
> > of the CIA role in the wars in both Korea and Vietnam were about
> > trading guns for drugs. Exporting guns to SouthEast asia, to BOTH
> > sides, often in exchange for drugs to be brought back to the U.S. via
> > Air America, the CIA's unofficial airforce. After all, how are you
> > going to start a profitable war in Asia, selling guns to both sides, if
> >
> >
> >
> > a lot of people cannot even afford to buy your guns? The solution was
> > to trade guns for drugs, to link up with the drug mafias in Asia. Fly
> > tons of guns and ammunition into S.E. Asia, and on the same planes fly
> > back tons of drugs , (cocaine and heroine and hashish you name it) into
> >
> >
> >
> > the United States. (usually the west coast, which is part of the reason
> >
> >
> >
> > LeftCoast Lotusland has its reputation as a druggie haven)
> > The CIA needed a conduit for taking delivery of the drugs in the U.S. ,
> >
> >
> >
> > and this is where the Hells Angels had their beginnings.
> > Even the corpses of returning Vietnam War soldiers were packed with
> > heroine and cocaine.
> >
> >
> > When the Vietnam War ended, the CIA started up their adventures in
> > South America, mainly because that was their business, and the end of
> > the Vietnam War meant they needed a new gig. Their business was and is
> > to start wars in drug-producing regions, and trade armaments for drugs
> > to be imported into the U.S. and other countries.
> >
> >
> > I am sure there were more than a few incidents of bikers and mafia
> > harrassing or ordering hits on Vietnam War protesters and peace
> > activists.
> >
> >
> > Anyway, the same pattern has continued to this day.
> > The opium production of Afghanistan has tripled since the U.S. invaded
> > in 2001. My guess is that the heroine trade from Florida and New
> > Orleans, north to New York is flourishing,
> > as that is a likely conduit point for the drugs coming out of the
> > Middle East.
> >
> >
> > *****************
> > Ted Gunderson and the CIA's International Trafficking in Children
> >
> >
> > Former head of FBI Ted Gunderson exposes a pedphile network run by the
> > CIA for satanic purposes.
> >
> >
> > watch online:
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/ujghu
> > ****************
> > "The Ted Gunderson Files"
> >
> >
> > http://educate-yourself.org/tg/
> >
> >
> > Haven't had time to go through all of them, but am linking directly to
> > Gunderson's article on the abduction/disappearance of Johnny Gosch:
> >
> >
> > http://educate-yourself.org/tg/goschcradiointerview19aug03.shtml
> >
> >
> > and, still regarding Johnny Gosch with pics of the boys:
> >
> >
> > from http://www.johnnygosch.com/
> >
> >
> > **********
> >
> >
> > am placing the Johnny Gosch abduction info here as a theory that
> > relates to the sex industry and organized crime.
> >
> >
> > The recent possibility/belief that journalist Jeff Gannon is Johnny
> > Gosch, coincides with the suicide(??) of Hunter S. Thompson:
> >
> >
> > http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml
> >
> >
> >
> > Gonzo journalist, Hunter Thompson wrote a book called "The Strange and
> > Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs" which chronicled his
> > living and riding with the HA in California. Paul Banacci (who admits
> > to having originally abducted Johnny Gosch) maintains that Hunter
> > Thompson was the camera man involved in a snuff movie made while
> > Banacci was involved with the pedophile ring that Johnny Gosch was
> > abducted into.
> >
> >
> > am convinced that we have now found generally who is doing the
> > majority of these things.
> >
> >
> > Most of the prostitution surrounds 'procurement' activities. Sometimes
> > it is young guys approached by older guys/richer guys "Get me some
> > drugs. get me some girls."(the younger the pimp, the younger the girls
> > he has access to , so some of the real young guys going missing are
> > probably small time drug pushers and pimps who have done business with
> > the wrong people and need to be shut up. Maybe somewhere along there
> > someone decided that gang 'hits' on people should actually be
> > profitable for the gang. Why just take someone out in a mob hit when
> > that person can actually be sold and then killed.)
> >
> >
> > These rich bastards get more sadistic. They are used to getting what
> > they want, when they want, and doing whatever they lwant to whoever
> > they want to do it to. So when they watch the porn, the VERY hard
> > stuff, they want more, then they want it made to order, then they want
> > the real thing. They ask around . They find a circle of people into it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Girls who will be hurt for money. From there, they find
> > their way into the real monsters, the people who pay big money to kill
> > the girl's babies, drink their blood. Some girls think its a good way
> > to make drug money. Some have pimps or gangs push them into it, further
> >
> >
> >
> > and further and further along. They can get girsl who ran away from
> > home at 13, spent a year in Jamaica, her pimps are moving her around.
> > They go where the money is. If there is a Superbowl or an Olympics or a
> >
> >
> >
> > World Series or a big Stones gig, anything big and decadent that
> > attracts money, they want to be there with the young young young girls.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thes eguys get connected. They collect girls like ranchers collect
> > horses, keep small groups of fed and groomed women addicted to drugs
> > working for them. The money in this is huge. These girls fry their
> > brains on drugs, forget who they are, where they are, even which city
> > or country they are in. They appear in porn flicks. They get tied and
> > whipped, locked in boxes, hung from ropes . Then they go back to the
> > hotel room.Then one night they get taken to someone who takes it all
> > the way , and they get tortured to death or burned alive. And their
> > owner gets a great big cash deposit into a new account that someone
> > gave them a password for the previous week. $200,000.
> > Welcome to the world of the ultra rich, the CIA , secret service, high
> > society adventure boys. They believe in living life as though it is one
> >
> >
> >
> > big movie set.
> > Someone real high up has a lot of power. Their group is expanding ,
> > they manipulate things to make sure their choice for mayor or police
> > chief gets in, and competitors get destroyed. The money flows.
> > The bottom line is , this stuff is the the ultimate luxury. It takes
> > money.
> > Rich criminals. Rich period, are into this.
> > This is the anything goes world of the ultra rich, the Bushes, theCIA
> > adv Then these groups get addicted to it. they grow. They need more
> > girls.
> > Rich gays and pedophiles get into it. More and more people start
> > disappearing. Young men, children.The Hells angels are all ex- CIA drug
> >
> >
> >
> > addicts and sadists who have lost it . The rich have private security,
> > private investigators, many of them ex police officers,ex marines, ex
> > CIA or CSIS or MI6 agents. They build up little private armies of these
> >
> >
> >
> > people, and these people have friends. Soldiers, bikers, dealers,
> > pimps, mob contacts.
> > They help out. They have contacts in the govt.,police dept., coroner's
> > office. Investigations are shut down, people reassigned, people have
> > little 'accidents', people 'commit suicide' at surprising times. The
> > police start to give up.
> > The killings become more frequent, and the cults less selective about
> > their victims. Less careful, less demanding. So then just about anyone
> > will do as a victim, anyone who won't go missed , whose disappearance
> > won't be notable, who will not be protected, and who is considered
> > generally useless.
> >
> >
> > You want to find your killers, follow the money. Most of this is about
> > drugs and occult and pimping and total depravity.
> >
> >
> > Well, basically we have it all figured out now.
> > I think we now know what is generally happening to the majority of
> > these missing people. They 'disappear ' for a few days, then their
> > bodies
> > are found. The people taking them often work for various CIA
> > operations, CIA-connected biker gangs
> > and organized crime networks.
> >
> >
> > Listen to this excellent internet radio show
> > the Alex Jones show:
> >
> >
> > (you have to realize that what he is saying is true. Most will not
> > believe
> > it because it is so incredible, but once you start checking it all out,
> >
> >
> >
> > everything, absolutley EVERYTHING, he is saying on his daily radio show
> >
> >
> >
> > is true. He has grown so popular that this show is broadcast on over
> > 100 public AM and FM radio stations across the United States.)
> >
> >
> > click here to listen:
> > http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls
> >
> >
> > Here is one more of Alex Jones videos:
> >
> >
> > Order of Death
> >
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/hy7t9
> >
> >
> > ***********
> >
> >
> > Check out this information on the cult killings in Burgundy, France (a
> > medievil village full of ancient castles, including some owned the
> > Rothschild family)
> >
> >
> > This case began with the 1991 discovery of imprisoned and tortured
> > slaves, led to the discovery of several buried bodies, and involved
> > emerging evidence of a network that had killed possibly hundreds of
> > people.
> > It also featured a massive coverup, a deluge of destroyed evidence,
> > compromised judges, an investigator murdered. Sound familiar?)
> >
> >
> > http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/auxerre/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Joanna
> >
> >
> > On the morning of May 17, 1990, Patrice Bardot, an unemployed dustman,
> > traveled from his home in the French village of Monteau to the nearby
> > Yonne River for a day of fishing. Not long after he arrived he noticed
> > something floating in the water. Initially, he believed it was a
> > bobbing barrel, but as he drew nearer he was shocked to realize it was
> > a nude human body.
> >
> >
> > Bardot immediately flagged down a woman jogging on a nearby path and
> > alerted her of the gruesome find. The jogger then ran toward a caf?,
> > where the police were called. The authorities soon arrived and
> > conducted what would later be considered a terribly bungled
> > investigation.
> >
> >
> > The police cornered off a small section of land close to where the body
> >
> >
> >
> > was found and began searching for clues. However, investigators ignored
> >
> >
> >
> > a large portion of the surrounding area, most of which had been
> > trampled by police, emergency personnel, onlookers and vehicles.
> > According to an Expatica.com article by Graham Tearse, the secured area
> >
> >
> >
> > was "released to the public just several hours later" and the following
> >
> >
> >
> > day it was further trampled by children on a field trip. Had there been
> >
> >
> >
> > any evidence, it was likely lost from the contamination of the crime
> > scene.
> >
> >
> > The body was withdrawn from the river and taken to a nearby hospital
> > for identification and autopsy. The woman was identified as 20-year-old
> >
> >
> >
> > Joanna Parrish, who was from Gloucestershire, England. Joanna was
> > enrolled in a modern languages work/study program at Leeds University
> > and took a position as an assistant English teacher at a secondary
> > school in the nearby town of Auxerre. She was working on a bachelor's
> > degree in modern languages at Leeds University. At the time of her
> > death she was only one week away from completing her posting.
> >
> >
> > An autopsy revealed that Joanna had been drugged, tied up, raped,
> > beaten and strangled before being dumped into the river. It was
> > suspected that her body had been in the water only several hours prior
> > to it being found. Even though the body was discarded in broad
> > daylight, police were unable to find any witnesses. They believed that
> > whoever murdered Joanna was probably familiar with the area and could
> > have even resided in the immediate vicinity. Yet, police were unable to
> >
> >
> >
> > produce any suspects.
> >
> >
> > According to Tearse, Joanna had a friend named Janet visiting from
> > Canada around the time of her death. Janet claimed that Joanna placed
> > an advertisement in a local newspaper offering English lessons. She
> > planned to use the money to fund a holiday trip with her fianc?e.
> >
> >
> > Investigators learned that a local man responded to Joanna's ad by
> > phone and was interested in hiring her to teach his teenage son. They
> > made arrangements to meet at 7 p.m. on May 16 at the town's square in
> > Auxerre. Tearse suggested that on that day, Janet joined Joanna on her
> > trip into town and they walked around for a while before they separated
> >
> >
> >
> > at about 6:30 pm.
> >
> >
> > Joanna went to meet the man at the town square. It was the last time
> > Janet ever saw her again. Tearse said that Joanna never told Janet the
> > name of the man she was planning to meet.
> >
> >
> > Several weeks after her body was discovered, Joanna was buried in
> > Gloucestershire. Her parents, Roger and Pauline, went to Auxerre and
> > hired a lawyer to assist them in their gaining access to information
> > concerning the case from the magistrate and the police detectives. They
> >
> >
> >
> > wanted to closely follow the investigation, hoping that it would
> > eventually lead to the apprehension of their daughter's murderer. Their
> >
> >
> >
> > expectations were quickly shattered when they realized how inadequately
> >
> >
> >
> > the case was being handled.
> >
> >
> > At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder
> >
> >
> >
> > was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and
> >
> >
> >
> > disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly
> > mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that
> > high-level officials were trying to cover-up the fact that Burgundy had
> >
> >
> >
> > an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was
> > something that could not be hidden for long.
> >
> >
> > Negligence
> >
> >
> > The investigation into Joanna's death was bungled from the beginning.
> > The crime scene was turned into a forensic disaster. Moreover, much of
> > the information gathered during the investigation was kept from
> > Joanna's family, who desperately tried to learn what advances were
> > being made in the case.
> >
> >
> > Tearse suggested that during a British inquest into Joanna's murder,
> > critical evidence was discovered that was ignored or overlooked by
> > French coroners. He claimed that a second autopsy, conducted by the
> > British, revealed several bite marks on Joanna's body. From a forensic
> > standpoint, bite marks are vital clues that can reveal information
> > about the killer because teeth, bite and jaw formations are
> > individually unique and can be easily matched. The revelation shocked
> > Joanna's parents who couldn't comprehend how something so obvious and
> > important could have gone unnoticed.
> >
> >
> > During the autopsy, medical examiners were able to obtain sperm
> > samples. It took two years for the samples to be analyzed, but the
> > results led to a genetic print. The DNA evidence was one of the biggest
> >
> >
> >
> > clues in the investigation and Roger and Pauline hoped that it would
> > lead investigators to the killer. However, they were not so fortunate.
> >
> >
> > Tearse said, "investigators refused to call for voluntary DNA tests of
> > the local male population and continued to refuse to make a media
> > appeal for witnesses." It was another blow to the investigation and a
> > major disappointment for Roger and Pauline. Frustrated at the
> > incompetence of police, Joanna's family decided to take measures into
> > their own hands.
> >
> >
> > They family offered a reward for information into Joanna's death and
> > handed out leaflets in and around Auxerre and Mon?teau. They even
> > appealed to the British government for assistance. Even though they
> > were unsuccessful in getting help from the British government they did
> > manage to get some interesting responses to their leaflets.
> >
> >
> > Several people called offering some information directly concerning
> > Joanna's death. Roger and Pauline eagerly presented the new leads to
> > the French authorities. However, for some unknown reason the
> > investigators failed to pursue the tips.
> >
> >
> > Isabelle Laville, victim
> > Isabelle Laville, victim
> > The family members of other murdered victims in Burgundy responded to
> > the leaflets. Roger and Pauline learned that three other young women,
> > Isabelle Laville, 17, Danielle Bernard, 39, Sylvie Baton, 24, were
> > murdered near or in Auxerre between 1987 and 1990. Their families were
> > angered because they also felt as if the investigators were mishandling
> >
> >
> >
> > the cases of their deceased loved ones.
> >
> >
> > Eventually, Roger and Pauline discovered that there were approximately
> > 13 more unsolved murders and disappearances of women in the Auxerre
> > area over the last 30 years. Interestingly, investigators working on
> > Joanna's case never told them about the spate of murders, two of which
> > occurred within months of their daughter's death.
> >
> >
> > Roger and Pauline tried to obtain Joanna's case files so they could
> > bring in outside help to assist in the investigation. However,
> > investigators continued to deny them access to the documents. Even
> > though it seemed as if they were battling a lost cause, they refused to
> >
> >
> >
> > give up in their search for evidence.
> >
> >
> > Among the 17 girls missing or found murdered were seven pupils from the
> >
> >
> >
> > Medical-Educational Institute, a special needs school for handicapped
> > young women in Auxerre. The girls, 16 to 22 years old, were accounted
> > for in December 2000, when a former bus driver of the school made a
> > startling confession. Emile Louis, 68, admitted to police that he had
> > sex with the seven pupils and then murdered them sometime between 1977
> > and 1979.
> >
> >
> > When the girls first began to disappear, the police interviewed Louis
> > because he was known to have a history of sex offenses. However, they
> > did not pursue him for long and eventually he was disregarded as a
> > potential suspect. Eventually, the cases were dropped and the girls
> > were listed as runaways.
> >
> >
> > Emile Louis, mugshot
> > Emile Louis, mugshot
> > Louis continued to drive female pupils to and from school. It is also
> > believed that he continued to rape and kill them indiscriminately. He
> > would not be looked at as a suspect for almost another two decades.
> >
> >
> > Hugh Schofield's article Mystery of France's Missing Girls suggested
> > that there were similarities between many of the cases. He quoted
> > Corinne Herrmann, a French lawyer and author of the book The
> > Disappeared of the Yonne, stating that the girls were either mentally
> > handicapped, "or like Joanna far from home." Moreover, according to
> > Stuart Jeffries 2000 article for The Observer, witnesses were able to
> > place Louis near the spots where many of the victims were last seen.
> >
> >
> > Scene where bodies found
> > Scene where bodies found
> > Louis was caught almost two decades later when his daughter found items
> >
> >
> >
> > in his house belonging to several of the victims. During his
> > confession, Louis told authorities that he buried the girls near the
> > Yonne River. Only the skeletal remains of two girls were ever
> > recovered.
> >
> >
> > Not long after his admission of guilt, Louis changed his story. He
> > claimed that he was pressured into giving false testimony and that he
> > actually didn't commit the murders. In a January 2002 article in The
> > Guardian by Jon Henley, Louis insisted that "the girls were routinely
> > abused and finally abducted and killed by a nebulous ring of men 'of
> > some standing, locally and in the region." Not surprisingly, Louis'
> > story was met with skepticism by local investigators.
> >
> >
> > Louis could not be charged with the murders anyway because under French
> >
> >
> >
> > law it was considered unlawful to convict anyone of a murder 10 years
> > after a crime was committed. According to Jeffries, Louis was instead
> > "convicted for kidnapping, for which there is no statue of
> > limitations." The authorities believed Louis could have been involved
> > in some of the other murder cases, yet there was not enough evidence to
> >
> >
> >
> > convict him.
> >
> >
> > One thing was for certain: Louis could not have been directly
> > responsible for Joanna's death. At the time of her murder, he was
> > serving a prison sentence for sexually assaulting a minor.
> > Nevertheless, Schofield suggested that a private investigation
> > conducted for 13 years by French police agent Christian Jambert, 56,
> > "clearly established that Louis was linked to all the women." It was
> > believed that he was affiliated with a sex ring operation that
> > prostituted, abused and even murdered many girls in the region,
> > possibly including Joanna.
> >
> >
> > Christian Jambert, victim
> > Christian Jambert, victim
> > Initially the authorities ignored Jambert's theories, but an incident
> > in 1984 led them to reconsider the idea that there was indeed a sex
> > ring in the area. That January, a 19-year-old girl was found wandering
> > the streets of Auxerre in a confused state. When the police picked her
> > up and questioned her she claimed that she was held captive in the
> > basement of a nearby house, where she was sexually abused and tortured.
> >
> >
> >
> > The girl's testimony led the police to the home of Claude and Monique
> > Dunand, known friends of Emile Louis. Stuart said that when they
> > searched the house, they found another girl in the cellar, "naked and
> > suspended from a ladder by her wrists." He further claimed that for
> > approximately 15 years, local handicapped girls were lured to the
> > house, locked up, fed dog food and repeatedly raped and tortured by
> > invited guests. However, there was no indication that any of the girls
> > were murdered.
> >
> >
> > Claude Dunand was eventually convicted of kidnapping and given a life
> > sentence in 1991. His wife Monique received two years for accessory to
> > the crimes. According to Andrew Alderson and Kim Willsher's article 'I
> > Want Justice for Joanna,' Yonne crime reporter Ludovic Berger stated,
> > "Claude Dunand has always said that politicians, industrialists and
> > magistrates were involved but he has refused to name them." The article
> >
> >
> >
> > further suggested that a list of at least 50 clients "rumored to
> > include several French 'notables' who paid to torture and abuse"
> > captive girls was discovered by police and handed over to the Auxerre
> > Courthouse. However, the list mysteriously disappeared from a courtroom
> >
> >
> >
> > and has never been found.
> >
> >
> > It was not the only document that went missing. In fact, there were
> > more than 100 murder and missing person case files from between 1958
> > and 1982 that vanished from the courthouse. Moreover, the court ledger
> > documenting the investigations also vanished. It became increasingly
> > clear that someone was either trying to cover up the crimes or the
> > Auxerre Courthouse had a serious management problem.
> >
> >
> > Christian Jambert was almost certain he knew who was behind Burgundy's
> > rash of murders and missing person cases, and he was convinced that
> > Louis was one of the primary culprits. However, he also believed that
> > Louis was only one of many involved in the crimes. Jambert kept
> > meticulous notes and diaries concerning the cases, along with the
> > evidence he collected over the years. In 1997, he made preparations to
> > present his findings during a new inquiry. Yet, he never got the chance
> >
> >
> >
> > to reveal what he worked so hard to acquire.
> >
> >
> > In August of that year, just several days before the inquiries were
> > scheduled to begin, Jambert was found dead in the basement of his
> > Auxerre home. An autopsy revealed that he died from a single gunshot
> > wound to the head. Medical investigators claimed that Jambert had a
> > history of depression. It was believed that his poor mental state
> > prompted him to end his life. His death was listed as a suicide.
> >
> >
> > By the late 1990s, the mounting scandal in Auxerre gained international
> >
> >
> >
> > attention. People were shocked by the negligence exhibited in the
> > investigations and the fact that more than 100 files, mostly of missing
> >
> >
> >
> > women, had gone missing from Auxerre's Courthouse. According to Harry
> > de Quetteville's January 2002 article in The Telegraph, the scandal was
> >
> >
> >
> > "taken so seriously in Paris that Marylise Lebranchu, the French
> > justice minister, ordered a series of internal investigations."
> > Joanna's murder case was one of those selected for re-examination and
> > it was further linked with the inquiry into the seven girls Louis once
> > claimed to have murdered.
> >
> >
> > Not surprisingly, Joanna's parents welcomed the decision of a new
> > inquiry. They waited more than a decade for her investigation to be
> > reopened. BBC News Online stated that Roger, "was hopeful there would
> > be progress in the investigation and the potential capture of the
> > killer."
> >
> >
> > Investigators working on the case quickly realized that there was a
> > possibility someone tampered with Joanna's murder file. Witness
> > statements, which were obtained at the time of her murder, were missing
> >
> >
> >
> > from her dossier. Moreover, important DNA evidence taken during the
> > autopsy also disappeared from the file for more than a decade before it
> >
> >
> >
> > was found again.
> >
> >
> > During the investigation, it was suggested that Joanne and many of the
> > other girls that were murdered or missing were likely the victims of an
> >
> >
> >
> > organized sex gang operating around Auxerre. Yet, because so many of
> > the facts were missing, there was not enough evidence available to
> > convict anyone.
> >
> >
> > The only exception was the case of the seven missing girls Louis
> > initially claimed to have murdered before retracting his confession.
> > Investigators continued to believe he was involved in their
> > disappearances and murders. A re-examination of his case was ordered,
> > with the hope of uncovering more evidence linking Louis or anyone else
> > to the girls.
> >
> >
> > Seven missing girls, victims
> >
> >
> > Many in the community believed that the murder cases were deliberately
> > ignored and the files stolen or destroyed because they implicated
> > high-level officials. Investigators re-examining the cases determined
> > that it was more likely that gross negligence on behalf of local
> > magistrates was to blame for the mishandling of the cases. In all
> > likelihood, it was probably a combination of both theories that
> > prevented anyone from being apprehended for the crimes.
> >
> >
> > In March 2002, four magistrates from Burgundy faced accusations of
> > gross negligence in the cases of missing and murdered women in their
> > region. The judges included former chief prosecutors Rene Meyer and
> > Jacques Cazals and former deputy prosecutors Daniel Stilinovic and
> > Bertrand Daillie. The men were ordered to appear before a panel of six
> > senior judges, who would review the cases over a three-day period.
> >
> >
> > According to a 2002 article by Susan Bell in The Scotsman, accused
> > magistrate Stilinovic admitted that "there were people who allowed
> > information to be stifled." He was further quoted saying "magistrates
> > tampered with procedures on behalf of people they wanted to protect. It
> >
> >
> >
> > is a conspiracy at the very top." However, he maintained his innocence,
> >
> >
> >
> > suggesting that he did not stifle any of the investigations. His peers
> > thought otherwise.
> >
> >
> > The panel returned a verdict in late March and found Stilinovic guilty
> > of negligence. He received the severest penalty and was dismissed from
> > his position. Cazals was also found guilty and transferred from his
> > prestigious post in Paris. Meyer, who was retired at the time of the
> > inquiry, was stripped of his honorary title after he too was found
> > guilty. Daillie received no punishment.
> >
> >
> > New Evidence
> >
> >
> > In August 2002, investigators found new clues during their inquiry into
> >
> >
> >
> > Joanna's murder. They revealed that recently recovered DNA evidence
> > pointed to two men being involved in the rape and murder of Joanna. The
> >
> >
> >
> > BBC News further stated in their article "Fresh Clues in Joanna Murder
> > Hunt" that new documents were found which indicated that police
> > arrested a suspect in connection with Joanna's murder early in the
> > investigation. Yet, he was released because of lack of evidence.
> >
> >
> > Investigators are continuing to follow up on the new leads, hoping that
> >
> >
> >
> > it might result in the arrest of her killers. However, a great deal of
> > time has passed since her death and the chances of solving the crime
> > have significantly decreased over the years. Regardless, Joanna's
> > family and law enforcement officials re-examining the case have not
> > given up hope.
> >
> >
> > In April 2004, more new evidence arose concerning the suicide of
> > Jambert. According to Alderson and Willsher's article, Corinne Herrmann
> >
> >
> >
> > received access to Jambert's files while she was conducting research
> > into the case of the Burgundy's missing and murdered girls. She became
> > suspicious of his death and believed he might have been murdered. She
> > just had to prove her theory.
> >
> >
> > Herrmann, author of Les Disparues D'Auxerre, convinced Jambert's
> > children to exhume their father's body so that another autopsy could be
> >
> >
> >
> > conducted. After several days of examining the remains, the medical
> > investigators made a startling discovery. Alderson and Willsher claimed
> >
> >
> >
> > that Jambert had been shot not once, but twice in the head making it
> > almost impossible for him to have committed suicide.
> >
> >
> > Herrmann's suspicions were proven correct and she persuaded area
> > magistrates to begin a murder inquiry. It was believed that his murder
> > was directly linked with the investigation on which he was working.
> > Even though investigators interviewed several possible suspects, no one
> >
> >
> >
> > has yet been convicted for the crime.
> >
> >
> > Jambert's case, like Joanna's, is being pursued with more vigor than
> > ever before. Moreover, investigators continue to review the Louis case.
> >
> >
> >
> > They are hoping to put an end to the disappearances and murders that
> > have plagued Burgundy for so many years. Moreover, they hope to restore
> >
> >
> >
> > the reputation of the beautiful, medieval town that has attracted
> > visitors from around the world for centuries.
> >
> >
> > Emile Louis Trial
> >
> >
> > On November 2, 2004, Emile Louis' murder trial finally began in
> > Auxerre, France despite repeated attempts to throw out the case.
> > According to a November 3, 2004 AP Worldstream article, Louis' lawyers
> > requested that the case be delayed until after the European Court of
> > Human Rights ruled "on their bid to dismiss the case" because they
> > believed "the crimes took place too long ago for the case to be legally
> >
> >
> >
> > valid." However, the court rejected the defense request and ordered the
> >
> >
> >
> > resumption of Louis' trial.
> >
> >
> > The 70-year-old retired bus driver, convicted of the murders of seven
> > mentally handicapped women, continued to deny he was responsible for
> > the murders even though he confessed to them years earlier. It is hoped
> >
> >
> >
> > that the trial will finally reveal the truth as to how the girls died.
> > The trial is expected to last four weeks. If convicted, Louis could
> > face life imprisonment.
> >
> >
> > The case is considered one of France's most controversial scandals
> > because the investigation was bungled and many of the case files
> > dealing with the girls' disappearances, as well as other cases of
> > murdered and missing women went missing from the Auxerre Courthouse. It
> >
> >
> >
> > is believed that the files were destroyed in order to cover up a
> > high-level sex ring, which allegedly involved some prominent French
> > officials.
> >
> >
> > Auxerre Courthouse
> >
> >
> > AP Worldstream reported that, "more than 90 witnesses including
> > magistrates, social workers, police officers and family members of the
> > victims are to testify at the trial." Many other family members of the
> > victims are expected to fill the courthouse, in the hopes of seeing
> > Louis brought to justice after escaping prosecution for the murders for
> >
> >
> >
> > approximately twenty-five years. The father of British student Joanna
> > Parrish, who was murdered in Auxerre in 1990, is also expected to be in
> >
> >
> >
> > attendance.
> >
> >
> > Since the onset of the trial there has been an upsurge of media and
> > public interest, which has led to security concerns. Moreover, there is
> >
> >
> >
> > concern for Louis' personal safety and the authorities want to prevent
> > the possibility of someone taking justice into their own hands. In
> > response, safety measures were taken to secure the perimeter around the
> >
> >
> >
> > courthouse, Mie Kohiyama reported for Agence France-Presse. There is no
> >
> >
> >
> > doubt that Louis is considered by many to be one of France's most
> > reviled citizens.
> >
> >
> > Rachael Bell
> >
> >
> > Rachael Bell has completed master's degrees in clinical and health
> > psychology and is currently working on her PhD in the field of
> > psychology. On a part-time basis, she instructs bachelor and master's
> > level courses in psychology. She lives in Europe with her husband and
> > two children.
Re: Cannibal Hells Angels cult?
Author: gornk
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:39
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 19:39
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the Hells Angels are an extension of the CIA, the original Hells Angels
were WWII and Korean War/Vietnam veterans,
a lot of them heroine and cocaine-addicted backwoods Special Forces
operatives/ Air America pilots
who lived a decade in the jungles addicted to heroine, trading guns and
narcotics, looking like stoners with long hair,
killing people and torturing people as necessary to stay alive. THose
who survived returned to America still addicted, and the CIA set them
up as drug smugglers and drug dealers for their retirement.
Hells Angels was a term for mercenary paratroopers in WWI, daredevils
for hire who did special ops (illegal assassinations, terrorism, etc.
ie: 'fighting dirty') , there was a Howard Hughes movie and fighter
squadron named after them.
That is where Hells Angels got their name. They had their beginnings
in the SanFrancisco region, the stomping grounds of Bohemian Grove and
the CIA : this is Skull n' Bones, distilled to its essence, with its
steeped history in international drugs and weapons and death mongering.
They reach such highs, such narcotic and financial bliss, that they
thank the gods, and think they are doing the will of their god, their
god of darkness, because everything seems to go so well for them.
For info on the Skull n' Bones activities in the 1960's:
video:
http://tinyurl.com/yfja2y
gornk wrote:
> > I do not fall for those vast conspiracy things. No way even Slick Willie was dealing >drugs, no way CIA was dealing drugs.
> IS running in drugs , not WAS running drugs
>
> and your use of the term 'dealing' is intentionally misleading.
> The CIA is importing drugs from around the world in exchange for
> weapons/cash. It's called corruption. Its called hundreds of billions
> of dollars in tax-free money for organized criminal elements at the
> highest level of government, and its called a general public in
> complete ignorance and complete denial. (the actual
> distribution/dealing is done
> by the Hells Angels and other 'connected' criminal organizations.
>
> watch these videos:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yyf6mr
> and
> http://tinyurl.com/y4gyzx
>
> and for background on Skull n' Bones watch:
> http://tinyurl.com/sm5rm
> and
> I- http://tinyurl.com/yfua97
> II- http://tinyurl.com/eb6l7
> gornk wrote:
> > People keep changing the subject from the original topic to
> > a discussion on something completely different, usually childish
> > name-calling.
> > They do not want the TOPIC discussed.
> >
> > The information has to keep flowing , so read on:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > quote:
> >
> > 'I have been reading along, watching the videos, and it is very
> > interesting, especially, about informants being used, while they are on
> > a killing spree.There are indeed some nasty things being done in high
> > places.
> >
> > I am uncertain, maybe because I grew up in Montreal, Angel Territory. I
> > know the gangs have had rival fights, etc, over turf, drugs.
> >
> > It bothers me also, pedophiles, and the HA, getting along. So many are
> > married with kids, or have sisters, etc..
> >
> > A lot is spoken of happenings in the USA, I wonder if you have any info
> > on the hub, or triangle, in the Province of BC,as this lady wrote, that
> > she worked with victims from there. Also, have you heard of the Process
> > Church cult? . I do believe in cults, and I fear this is widespread,
> > and may end up reaching into the states.
> >
> > PS: Say there has been a long time cult going on, then they would
> > probably take something from the victim, to the people they obey., to
> > show it was done. It is very confusing to say the least
> >
> > _________________
> > osted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:26 am Post subject:
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > 'I have not had time to visit all these links and watch all the videos,
> > but I was googling cult activity and Satanism in BC. Came up with an
> > article about a 30+ year member of the VPD who used to investigate
> > child abuse cases ... Detective Constable Charles Ennis, aka Kerr
> > Cuhulain who is also head honcho of an organization called Officers of
> > Avalon (policeman, firefighters, EMTs, etc. of Wicca and the Pagan
> > religion). He notes that Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist who worked
> > out of Chilliwack General Hospital, had some patients who committed
> > suicide, and the article indicates that it was possibly related to
> > Gutowski's treatment received while undergoing therapy due to Satanic
> > cult involvement. I can't help but wonder if the suicides might just be
> > more related to the cult activity/involvement rather than Dr.
> > Gutowski's treatment??
> >
> > http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:1kctPz0ktxEJ:www.witchvox.com/va/...
> >
> > I have read a couple of the Ennis/Cuhulain articles and note that he
> > appears as bigoted towards Christians as he claims Christians are
> > towards Wicca. He has authored The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca,
> > Wiccan Warrior and Full Contact Magick: A Book of Shadows for the
> > Wiccan Warrior, and Witch Hunts: Out of the Broom Closet (Spiral
> > Publishing).
> > -----------------
> >
> > Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Fantastic Quigley. This is nearly THE most important find so far.
> > Kerr Cuhulain is based in Surrey, B.C. He has started an occult police
> > officers association called Officers of Avalon.
> > Piggy Palace (and Robert Pictons farm) is very near Surrey, B.C. , just
> > N.E.
> > of Surrey in Port Coquitlam. Ironically, Cuhulain was a child abuse
> > investigator
> > for the Vancouver Police Dept.
> >
> > This also fits the pattern of the cult putting their own people in key
> > positions of authority re: police, child abuse, missing persons.
> > (remember disgraced teen fondler, Congressman Mark Foley was chairman
> > of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
> >
> > Some info on the Picton pig farm cult:
> >
> > Quote:
> > http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/robert_pickton/6...
> >
> > Late in 1998, task force detectives got their best lead yet from
> > 37-year-old Bill Hiscox. Widowed two years earlier, Hiscox had turned
> > to drugs and alcohol after his wife died, rescued from the downhill
> > slide when his foster sister found him a job at P&B Salvage in Surrey,
> > southeast of Vancouver. The proprietors were Robert William "Willie"
> > Pickton and his brother David, of Port Coquitlam. Hiscox's helpful
> > relative was Robert Pickton's "off-and-on" girlfriend in 1997, and
> > Hiscox picked up his paychecks at the brothers' Port Coquitlam pig
> > farm, described by Hiscox as "a creepy-looking place" patrolled by a
> > vicious 600-pound boar. "I never saw a pig like that, who would chase
> > you and bite at you," he told police. "It was running out with the dogs
> > around the property."
> >
> > Robert William (Willie) Pickton
> >
> > Hiscox had grown concerned about the Picktons after reading newspaper
> > reports on Vancouver's missing women. Robert Pickton was "a pretty
> > quiet guy, hard to strike up a conversation with, but I don't think he
> > had much use for men." Pickton drove a converted bus with deeply tinted
> > windows, Hiscox told authorities. "It was Willie's pride and joy," he
> > said, "and he wouldn't part with it for anything. Willie used it a
> > lot." The brothers also ran a supposed charity, the Piggy Palace Good
> > Times Society, registered with the Canadian government in 1996 as a
> > non-profit society intended to "organize, co-ordinate, manage and
> > operate special events, functions, dances, shows and exhibitions on
> > behalf of service organizations, sports organizations and other worthy
> > groups." According to Hiscox, the "special events" convened at Piggy
> > Palace--a converted building at the hog farm--were drunken raves that
> > featured "entertainment" by an ever-changing cast of Downtown Eastside
> > prostitutes.
> >
> > David Francis Pickton
> >
> > Police were already familiar with the Pickton brothers. David Francis
> > Pickton had been convicted of sexual assault in 1992, fined $1,000 and
> > given 30 days' probation. His victim in that case told police Pickton
> > had attacker her in his trailer, at the pig farm, but she managed to
> > escape when a third party came in and distracted him. Port Coquitlam
> > authorities sought an order to destroy one of David's dogs in April
> > 1998, under the Livestock Protection Act, but the proceedings were
> > later dismissed without explanation. Pickton had also been sued three
> > times for damages, resulting from traffic accidents in 1988 and 1991,
> > settling all three claims out of court.
> >
> > Soon after Piggy Palace opened, the Pickton brothers and their sister,
> > Linda Louise Wright, found themselves in court again, sued by Port
> > Coquitlam officials for allegedly violating city zoning ordinances.
> > According to the complaint, their property was zoned for agricultural
> > use, but they had "altered a large farm building on the land for the
> > purpose of holding dances, concerts and other recreations" that
> > sometimes drew as many as 1,800 persons. Following a New Year's Eve
> > party on December 31, 1998, the Picktons were slapped with an
> > injunction banning future parties, the court order noting that police
> > were henceforth "authorized to arrest and remove any person" attending
> > public events at the farm. The "society" finally lost its nonprofit
> > status in January 2000, for failure to provide mandatory financial
> > statements.
> >
> > Other charges filed against Robert Pickton were more serious. In March
> > 1997 he was charged with the attempted murder of a drug-addicted
> > prostitute, Wendy Lynn Eistetter, whom he stabbed several times in a
> > wild melee at the pig farm. Eistetter told police that Pickton
> > handcuffed and attacked her on March 23, but that she escaped after
> > disarming him and stabbing him with his own knife. A motorist found
> > Eistetter beside the highway at 1:45 a.m. and took her to the nearest
> > emergency room, while Pickton sought treatment for a single stab wound
> > at Eagle Ridge Hospital. He was released on $2,000 bond, but the charge
> > was later dismissed without explanation in January 1998.
> >
> > The stabbing had crystallized Bill Hiscox's suspicion about Robert
> > Pickton, whom he called "quite a strange character." Aside from the
> > assault, Hiscox told police, there were "all the girls that are going
> > missing, and all the purses and Ids that are out there in his trailer
> > and stuff." Pickton, Hiscox told detectives, "frequents the downtown
> > area all the time, for girls."
> >
> > Police recorded Hiscox's statement and a detective accompanied him to
> > the pig farm, afterward vowing "to push the higher-ups, all the way to
> > the top, to investigate." Subsequent press reports indicate that the
> > farm was searched three times, apparently without result. The brothers
> > would remain on file, "persons of interest" to the inquiry, but no
> > surveillance would be mounted on the farm.
> >
> > Back in Vancouver, meanwhile, the list of missing women grew longer,
> > with no end in sight.
> >
> > Last edited by Thunkerdrone on Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:14 pm; edited 1 time
> > in total
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I checked Google Maps for an aerial view of the general area where
> > Piggy Palace and the Picton pig farm is located:
> >
> > It is in Port Coquitlam, which is just NorthEast of Surrey, B.C. where
> > our Officers of Avalon cult friends are headquartered.
> > Notice the big nearby rail yard. Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
> >
> > inland river /rail port, from what I can tell the biggest such port in
> > the Vancouver area.
> > This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
> > Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
> > disappearing onto ships.
> > If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
> > etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
> > that might be useful.
> >
> > Back to top
> > Thunkerdrone
> > Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> > Posts: 76
> > Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Check this out: the Hells Angels entire Vancouver chapter is also
> > located
> > in Port Coquitlam. So we have Officers of Avalon (police), the Pickton
> > pig cult,
> > and the Hells Angels all headquartered in the same area immediatelly
> > surrounding
> > this massive rail port:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/srtaa
> >
> > Quote:
> > Neal Hall, VANCOUVER SUN
> > Published: Tuesday, October 17, 2006
> > A high-profile member of the Vancouver Hells Angels says people have
> > been rude to him and he has experienced "fear and loathing" from the
> > public at supermarkets, restaurants and other places after an Ontario
> > court ruling last year that found the Hells Angels is a criminal
> > organization, a Vancouver judge was told Monday.
> >
> > In an affidavit filed in B.C. Supreme Court, Rickey Ciarniello, 61, the
> > president of the Vancouver chapter, who has been a member of the Hells
> > Angels since 1983, says he has always proudly worn his Hells Angels
> > insignia, known as colours, but since the Ontario ruling he has
> > experienced "harassment, stigma and ostracism that membership would now
> > seem to entail."
> >
> > He was wearing a black jacket in court Monday that said in small
> > letters on the front: Vancouver Hells Angels.
> >
> > His affidavit, obtained by The Vancouver Sun, claims he is a
> > law-abiding Hells Angels member who is "not responsible for the
> > criminal acts that have, at times, been committed by some of its
> > members."
> >
> > His affidavit recalled that after the Ontario ruling, Ciarniello went
> > to a restaurant called Joey Tomatoes wearing his colours and overheard
> > a couple asking to be moved because they didn't want to sit next to a
> > criminal.
> >
> > "Following that I was quite uncomfortable and decided to leave the
> > restaurant," said the affidavit.
> >
> > "I have noticed a marked difference in the way that people respond to
> > me when I am wearing my colours," Ciarniello said in his affidavit.
> >
> > "The mood has gone from friendly and casual curiosity to fear, loathing
> > and avoidance such that I am now made to feel uncomfortable wearing the
> > HAMC [Hells Angels Motorcycle Club] insignia."
> >
> > Since the Ontario judgment, his affidavit says, staff members at the
> > local Safeway near his PORT COQUITLAM home -- where he has purchased
> > groceries for 20 years -- are not as friendly as they used to be, and
> > he's received similar treatment at a Shell gas station.
> >
> > His affidavit also states that John Bryce, president of the East End
> > chapter of the Hells Angels, was refused as a customer of the Bank of
> > Nova Scotia, after two decades of business with it, after the Ontario
> > ruling.
> >
> > And Ciarniello says while he regularly spoke to the media on behalf of
> > the Hells Angels in B.C. and nationally, he has generally refrained
> > from speaking out to the same extent after the ruling because he is
> > concerned that "I may be charged with participating in the activities
> > of a criminal organization...."
> >
> > He said the effect of the Ontario ruling "is to declare me a member of
> > a criminal organization notwithstanding that I have never engaged in
> > the promotion of criminal conduct."
> >
> > His affidavit was filed as part of his constitutional challenge of all
> > the sections of the Criminal Code making it illegal to participate,
> > direct or instruct people for the benefit of a criminal organization.
> >
> > He claims the Ontario Superior Court ruling in the case known as
> > Lindsay and Bonner has caused a stigma to belonging to the Hells Angels
> > in B.C., which infringes his section seven rights of life, liberty and
> > security of person.
> >
> > n...@png.canwest.com
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > http://www.thenownews.com/issues05/112105/news/112105nn2.html
> >
> > Quote:
> > Hells Angels members get four years
> >
> > By Jennifer Saltman - Staff Reporter
> >
> > Two senior members of the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels - which
> > is based in Coquitlam - were each sentenced in B.C. Supreme Court
> > Monday to four years in jail for drug trafficking.
> >
> > Surrey resident Norman Edward Krogstad, 58, who police say is the
> > president of the Vancouver chapter, and 55-year-old Langley resident
> > Cedric Baxter Smith, a senior member of the chapter, had pleaded guilty
> > earlier to 11 counts of cocaine trafficking.
> >
> > The two were sentenced by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm for
> > their role in trafficking almost 10 kilograms of cocaine bought by a
> > former biker who was working as an undercover police agent.
> >
> > Smith was also fined $100,000 for his role in the trafficking
> > operation, during which the police agent bought nine kilograms and 24
> > ounces of cocaine between June 2003 and September 2004.
> >
> > When police raided Smith's home, they seized $73,000 in cash - and Dohm
> > ordered Smith to pay $27,500 on top of that to satisfy payment of the
> > fine.
> >
> > Krogstad and Smith were among 10 men arrested on the Lower Mainland and
> > in Prince George in January after a 20-month-long joint police
> > investigation.
> >
> > The investigation resulted in firearm and drug-trafficking charges
> > against six members and associates of the Prince George Renegades
> > motorcycle club and four members and associates of the Hells Angels'
> > Vancouver chapter.
> >
> > Undercover police officers bought large quantities of drugs, stolen
> > property and illegal guns were purchased from various members of
> > Vancouver- and Prince George-based Hells Angels, and their associates.
> >
> > In Vancouver and Prince George, investigators seized more than
> > $100,000, 25 pounds of marijuana, 14 kilograms of cocaine and
> > restricted and prohibited weapons.
> >
> > The Angels' COQUITLAM clubhouse was not searched during the operation.
> > The Vancouver chapter has approximately 16 members
> > .
> > ********
> > ed Nov 15, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From:
> >
> > Quote:
> > http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=16079
> >
> > "A special team investigating the cases," reported the New York Times
> > on Saturday, November 23, 2002, "arrived and found body parts in a
> > freezer, as well as purses and other personal effects later linked to
> > the missing.... Not one body has been found intact, and a wood chipper
> > and Mr. Pickton's pigs are believed to have devoured much of the
> > evidence."
> >
> > The Scene of the Crimes
> >
> > "There are no whole bodies at the pig farm," says Elaine Allan, a
> > former coordinator for a DES drop-in center for sex workers. While
> > employed there in the late '90s, she worked with almost 20 of the women
> > who are believed to have been murdered by Robert Pickton, dismembered,
> > and fed to his pigs. In her late 30s with medium-length hair, an
> > intelligent air, and attentive eyes, Allan's voice expresses an almost
> > aching sensitivity for the victims.
> >
> > "I can't tell you exactly what they have found on the farm because of
> > the ban on that information. You know about the ban?" I say that I do,
> > but the local papers have reported about the feet, teeth, and bones.
> > Everyone knows about the body parts, the pigs, the wood chipper, the
> > freezers. Indeed, the animal rights organization PETA had planned to
> > place a large ad in the Province describing the murders in horrifying
> > detail. ("They were drugged and dragged across the room," the PETA ad
> > began. "Their struggles and cries went unanswered.... [b]They were
> > slaughtered and their heads were sawed off.... Their body parts were
> > refrigerated.... And their bones discarded. [/b]It's Still Going On.
> > Please remember that this scenario is a reality for more than 640
> > million sensitive individuals who lose their lives every year in this
> > country for nothing more than the taste of their 'meat.'")
> >
> > What detail could Allan possibly tell me that wasn't already known? Was
> > there more than dismembered women in the meat freezer, in the teeth of
> > the wood chipper, or the guts of the pigs? Were there worse details,
> > more horrifying details?
> >
> > "Yes," she says. "It's worse than you can imagine."
> > Now for the truly sickening part, if this were not bad enough
> >
> > I followed the street address provided in the above news article, the
> > street address for the pig farm: 953 Dominion Avenue (Dominion
> > Triangle)
> > on Google Maps, and I found that the swatch of farmland actually
> > borders the massive rail yard and inland sea port. The above article
> > also mentions that women from Seattle started disappearing at the same
> > time, and my guess is that this is not the only other city involved.
> >
> > Now it starts to get truly strange:
> >
> > I did a Google on the most famous Hells Angel in history
> > Sonny Barger
> > During the course of my search I came upon a biker-connected band
> > known as Spiralarms.
> > The bass player for Spiralarms, known as 'Spiralbass' (has a Myspace
> > page)
> >
> > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&frie...
> >
> > and on his page I found this:
> > http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/MANTIS11/enemy/gutsyjm3io9.gif
> >
> > (edited by Hazel, sorry TD just too graphic for me, and if too graphic
> > for me I am sure its too graphic for others. However, I left the link
> > intact, if anyone wants to see this image, cut and paste away. Thanx)
> >
> > I got curious about this guy , and found that he is from Benicia,
> > California.
> > I did a Google Earth on Benicia, California.
> > Benicia is literally just across the river from Mount Diablo, on the
> > north side , and not far geographically from Bohemian Grove (approx. 70
> > miles SE). It is another port city, this time for Concord Naval Weapons
> > Base.
> > http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove_maps.h...
> >
> > Now back to our friend Kerr Kuhulain (detective constable Charles
> > Ennis):
> >
> > Kuhulain and his books are prominent on this site:
> > http://spiralpublishinginc.com/osCommerce/
> >
> > this is Kuhulain's publisher : Spiral Publishing.
> >
> > Spiral Arms
> > Spiral Publishing
> >
> > The goddess depicted above is Kali
> >
> > >From http://tinyurl.com/yxjms2
> >
> > "Cannibalism (more precisely, anthropophagy) is an age-old tradition
> > that, judging by a constant stream of flabbergasted news reports, is
> > far from extinct. Much-debated indications exist that our Neanderthal,
> > Proto-Neolithic, and Neolithic (Stone Age) predecessors were cannibals.
> > Similarly contested claims were made with regards to the 12th century
> > advanced Anasazi culture in the southwestern United States and the
> > Minoans in Crete (today's Greece)."
> >
> > The Britannica Encyclopedia (2005 edition) recounts how the "Binderwurs
> > of central India ate their sick and aged in the belief that the act was
> > pleasing to their goddess, Kali." Cannibalism may also have been common
> > among followers of the Shaktism cults in India.
> >
> > Now , are not many of the ships into Port Coquitlam from India?
> > Is Kerr Kuhulain himself not from India? Remember, if you look at
> > the Pickton farm on google earth, it right beside both an asian
> > shipping port and a massive rail yard . This is a colossal scale rail
> > yard. This is valuable land, and lots of it.
> >
> > Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > http://newsfromrussia.com/world/2005/10/27/66369.html
> >
> > Indian cannibal sect eats human corpses, believing it give them
> > supernatural powers
> >
> > Quote:
> > 16:42 2005-10-27
> > A new Indian documentary seeks to shed light on a secretive sect of
> > Hindu ascetics who allegedly eat human corpses, believing it will make
> > them ageless and give them supernatural powers.
> >
> > The 10-minute movie "Feeding on the Dead" delves into the little-known
> > world of the 1,000-year-old Aghori sect, whose sadhus, or holy men,
> > purportedly pull bodies from Hinduism's holy river, the Ganges, in
> > northern India.
> >
> > The sect has been written about, but rarely filmed performing its
> > rituals. Cannibalism is illegal in India.
> >
> > Director Sandeep Singh, who shut down his transport business to pursue
> > film-making, said it took him more than three months to gain an Aghori
> > sadhu's trust and persuade him to be filmed while performing a
> > cannibalistic ritual.
> >
> > "When we first met the sadhu, he said: 'Rubbish, we don't do this,"'
> > Singh told The Associated Press in an interview. "It took months before
> > he admitted to the rituals."
> >
> > There are about 70 Aghori sadhus at a given time, Singh said. They
> > remain with the sect for 12 years, and can then return to their
> > families, he said.
> >
> > Unlike other Hindu holy men, most of whom are vegetarians and
> > teetotalers, the Aghoris also drink alcohol.
> >
> > But it is their consumption of human flesh, a practice whose origins
> > remain a mystery, which has earned them the condemnation of other
> > Hindus and relegated most of them to living around crematoriums in the
> > hills around the northern holy city of Varanasi, where the documentary
> > was made.
> >
> > While filming, Singh and three cameramen waited with an Aghori holy
> > man, whose name is not mentioned in the film, for 10 days in June
> > before the sadhu found a corpse floating in the Ganges.
> >
> > Hindus generally cremate the dead, but sometimes ceremonially dispose
> > of bodies in the Ganges.
> >
> > "The body was decomposed and bluish in color, but the sadhu was not
> > afraid about falling sick," Singh said. "He sat on the corpse, prayed
> > to a goddess of crematoriums and offered some flesh to the goddess
> > before eating it."
> >
> > Singh said the sadhu ate part of the corpse's elbow, believing the
> > flesh would stop him from aging and give him special powers, like the
> > ability to levitate or control the weather.
> >
> > The filmmaker said he did not see any such powers displayed, and plans
> > to continue his research into the sect by filming ascetics at various
> > intervals during their 12 years as Aghoris, reports the AP.
> > I.L.
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > Thunkerdrone
> >
> > Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> > Posts: 76
> >
> > Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/vvrlq
> >
> > Quote:
> > The cruel rites of Kali in no way belong to the past. As the Indian
> > press currently reports, in recent times more and more incidents of
> > human sacrifice to the goddess have accumulated, in which it is
> > primarily children who are offered up. The ancient and universal myth
> > of the Earth Mother, who consumes her own progeny and fattens herself
> > with their corpses, who greedily laps up the blood-seed of humans and
> > animals, who lures life into her abyss and dark hole in order to
> > destroy it, is actually celebrating a renaissance in contemporary India
> > (Neumann, 1989, pp. 148-149).
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > willow
> >
> > Joined: 30 Apr 2006
> > Posts: 1793
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:35 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Quote:
> > this was an operation on an industrial scale Now I am beginning to
> > understand why the media ban.
> >
> > Trevor Greene mentions in his book Bad Date 2001, that there was a
> > Farmer Willie possibly involved, but rather than concentrating on that
> > aspect, he followed up a lot, on the fear of a lot of the ladies that
> > women were being taken aboard ships, used as "entertainment" and dumped
> > over board.
> >
> > Until now, I did not realize the property bordered the port.
> >
> > http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9024098%255...
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > 21mar04
> >
> > CANADIANS horrified by the discovery of an alleged serial killer in
> > their midst have been confronted with even worse news -- they may have
> > eaten animals that ate the victims.
> >
> > The farmer suspected of killing at least 22 women is feared to have
> > disposed of their bodies by feeding them to his pigs.
> >
> > The pigs were then slaughtered on his farm, 30km east of Vancouver, and
> > the meat given to hundreds of locals.
> >
> > Police this week confirmed samples of the pig meat probably contained
> > human DNA, raising the prospect that those living near the farm of
> > suspected killer Robert William Pickton "ate" his victims.
> >
> > Pickton, 54, apparently had a habit of slaughtering pigs, wrapping up
> > the meat and distributing it to associates and friends.
> >
> > Many of Pickton's victims were prostitutes. The killer regularly gave
> > pork from his farm to other sex workers.
> >
> > "Those are my friends that he served up," said one prostitute this week
> > after learning she may eaten meat contaminated with her friends' DNA.
> >
> > Families of the missing women expressed shock at the news, with one
> > telling a Vancouver radio station: "I'm not eating dinner tonight."
> >
> > Police have asked anyone with frozen pork products from the farm to
> > turn them into authorities immediately.
> >
> > Health officials are examining whether human pathogens and diseases
> > such as hepatitis and HIV could have been transferred through the meat
> > products.
> >
> > Police arrested Pickton in February 2002, but only announced this week
> > they had found human remains and other DNA samples at the farm.
> >
> > Pickton has been charged with 15 counts of first-degree murder in the
> > disappearances of women over the past 20 years.
> >
> > Many of the victims vanished from Vancouver's drug-ridden areas. More
> > than 60 prostitutes went missing over the past decade and are feared to
> > have been murdered at the farm.
> >
> > -------------------
> > So here we have a biker band Spiralarms, and the cover of their
> > CD contains Kali , the cannibalistic goddess of death, whom is
> > worshipped in cannibalistic rituals.
> >
> > The drummer for Spiralarms is from the Mount Diablo/Bohemian Grove area
> > (where sacrifices are done to Mol-luk , Condor Man, eater of human
> > flesh) and the drummer also has the cartoon of a human flesh
> > slaughterhouse on his page.
> >
> > Then further up the coast in B.C. we have Port Coquitlam, the central
> > headquarters of the Hells Angels for the entire region, and a gigantic
> > cannibal restaurant/hall called Piggy Palace, with a slaughterhouse
> > next to it, situated right next to what could be the most gigantic rail
> > yard in NA,
> > and a port servicing ships from Asia.
> >
> > Finally, we have child-abuse squad occultist Kerr Kuhulain who lives
> > just SW of Port Coquitlam and publishes occult books
> > at a publisher by the name of Spiral Press. He has also formed an
> > occult police organization called The Officers of Avalon.
> >
> > Now we wonder why the police did nothing for so long?
> > Quote:
> > http://www.twpt.com/cuhulain.htm
> >
> > Kerr Cuhulain A former Air Force officer, Kerr Cuhulain (Vancouver) has
> > been a police officer for the past twenty years, and a Wiccan for
> > thirty. He's served on the SWAT team, Gang Crime Unit, and hostage
> > negotiation team. He travels throughout North America as a popular
> > speaker at writers' conferences and Pagan festivals, and he has been
> > the subject of many books, articles, and media interviews. He is the
> > author of The Law Enforcement Guide to Wicca.
> >
> > "As a child I was a seeker (though, at the time, I couldn't have told
> > you what I was looking for). I remember leaving libations from my lunch
> > box for various Greek Gods while I was in elementary school. I found a
> > book on Wicca in my high school library 31 years ago and realized that
> > there was a name for what I believed. There was no turning back after
> > that."
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > Thunkerdrone
> >
> > Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> > Posts: 76
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:42 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Quote:
> > http://tinyurl.com/yg8oov
> >
> > Vancouver Sun
> > 16 September 1989,
> >
> > Gutowski, who at that time claimed to have treated five "ritual abuse
> > survivors in the last four to five years,"(2 is quoted as follows:
> >
> > "We, as psychiatrists, don't want to believe it at all. But the weight
> > of evidence about hypnotic regressions convinces us that these things
> > are actually true. And when you see the reality of the impact it has on
> > their minds and bodies and emotions, it becomes much more
> > believable."(29)
> > "According to Gutowski, at these [occult crime] conferences,
> > psychiatrists are hearing that survivor's disclosures are pointing to
> > the fact that prominent people are involved in cult activities.
> > `They're mayors, lawyers, police, church people- upstanding citizens.
> > These people are not from Skid Road,' he says."(30)
> > "Gutowski says evidence gathering is nearly impossible because cults
> > `go to extreme detail in covering up the remains of people that are
> > murdered, especially of babies. But I don't think anything is being
> > done because of the difficulty of getting evidence'".(31)
> > "Chilliwack's Gutowski estimates that up to half of the one in 3,000
> > people with multiple personality disorders in Canada have been ritually
> > abused. The other half have experienced extremely sadistic sexual,
> > physical, mental, or emotional violence. `The typical memories (of
> > those who have been ritually abused) are of being tied down,
> > mutilations in the secrecy of night in graveyards, bushes and forests.
> > Wounds are inflicted where they're not seen and they are not
> > deep.'"(32)
> > "Consistency in the way patients retell the details of their stories
> > while in trances, as well as cross-patient consistencies in the
> > recounting of typical cult activities, convinces Gutowski further."(33)
> >
> > Gutowski's name appears again in the Ottawa Citizen, on March 3, 1990.
> > Gutowski is quoted as follows:
> >
> > "Dr. Willi Gutowski, a psychiatrist at the Chilliwack General Hospital
> > in British Columbia, has dealt with 20 cult survivors since 1985.
> >
> > "Drugs are a frequent thing that happens, used to confuse (the victims)
> > so they don't really remember what's reality. That's a purposeful
> > technique so (memories of the event are) actually blocked out of the
> > conscious mind and this is where the development of the multiple
> > personality starts.
> >
> > "The cult's activities, he says, 'are so gross, that most people who
> > aren't familiar with the field would say, 'that's not possible'.
> > Secrecy is one of their biggest weapons."(34)
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > willow wrote:
> >
> > At second Glance I realize Kerr Cuhulain is an alias as you already
> > mentioned. All I can tell is he is Canadian, doesn't seem to have an
> > Indian (as in the continent) name or appearance (to me).
> > -------
> >
> > yes, his real name is Charles Ennis. He is not East-Indian.
> > --------
> >
> > Kim Rossmo was treated completely infairly. Instead of getting a medal
> > for figuring out the geographic evidence suggesting a serial killer was
> > to blame for the growing number of missing women in the DTES, he was
> > let go! After being treated like an outcast for quite some time by his
> > own department and fellow officers.
> >
> > http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2006/06/19/bc_child-porn20060619.html
> > Quote:
> > Earlier this year Vancouver police Sgt. John Dragani - who has since
> > retired - was charged with possession of child pornography after
> > allegations surfaced in 2005 that he had child porn on his home
> > computer.
> >
> > http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/9-year-vetren-of-rcmp-fired...
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > Tristan Johnson, 35, a nine-yearvetren of the force came under
> > suspiscion due to an annonymous tip he was accessing child porn from
> > his home computer. In another stunning display of interdepartmental
> > cooperation the tip was passed on to the Vancouver police (the suspects
> > jurisdiction, Surrey.) After 4 months of investigation, they determined
> > there was enough evidence supporting the tip to fire him, they
> > approached the suspect and let him know, he chose to resign in the face
> > of dismissal. The matter is before the Crown.
> >
> > http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=65c84a7b-1efc-4...
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > 2nd ex-cop faces child-porn probe Prosecutors study report from
> > Vancouver police department on allegations involving nine-year
> > veteran's home computer
> >
> > http://www.mindytran.com/rcmp_sanctioned_killers.htm
> >
> > Quote:
> > The RCMP have been aiding a known group of killers to avoid justice for
> > many years in Canada. These killers were all later identified as
> > protected police informants. The Police have gone to great lengths to
> > protect their informants from prosecution and aggressively obstruct the
> > victims families from having any recourse to justice. These "special"
> > informants are functioning as Police agents, above the law and in
> > certain cases, virtually licensed to kill!
> >
> > Little about the laws governing these "untouchables" is known and
> > little is ever willingly disclosed by the RCMP. In most cases, Canadian
> > laws will prohibit you from knowing, or the media from publishing, the
> > identities of police informants . see- justice department quiz
> > (question #1)
> >
> > What is known is that the number of these "informants" is constantly
> > being increased and they are involved in criminal activity, while at
> > the same time, the RCMP is urging the public to inform them of any
> > criminal activity.
> > see- RCMP website- number of informants (final paragraph)
> >
> > _________________
> > http://www.nanowrimo.org
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > Thunkerdrone
> >
> > Joined: 05 Nov 2006
> > Posts: 76
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:35 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
> > sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
> >
> > What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
> > to take the fall and shut up?
> >
> > http://www.mindytran.com/canadian_informants.htm
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > Canadian informants
> >
> > Examples of Canadian informants:
> >
> > This man confessed to having committed 43 murders in 1986, supposedly
> > before turning police informant, and assuming a new identity under the
> > witness protection program.
> > quote from serial killer index:
> > hey there! love the sight but have you ever heard of Yves "Apache"
> > Trudeau? he is a Hells Angel, now under the protection of the Canadian
> > government due to his turning in his biker cronies. In return for
> > ratting his buddies out he recieved immunity for some 43 murders he
> > committed, mostly for revenge and / or money. A pretty prolific killer
> > I would say
> > What was Trudeau doing?
> > see- story
> > see- short version
> > full story- the complete story has now been removed from CBC website.
> > This information is rapidly disappearing from the public domain.
> >
> > Cory Patterson, another admitted member of these informant/ killers,
> > claimed that there were others like him. He was never charged, just
> > relocated. Patterson was found dead after he informed on his police
> > handlers and disclosed his protected informant status to a journalist.
> > The CBC fifth Estate investigated and aired the program.
> > quote-Justice Paul Hermiston couldn't believe what he was hearing.
> > Never in his career had he heard of such a bizarre case. He was at a
> > loss to even speculate why the RCMP would hire such a wicked man.
> > see story
> >
> > Clifford Robert Olson, Canada's most notorious serial killer, was an
> > informant and received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the police
> > following his arrest. He was a suspect when there was only one victim,
> > was heavily implicated when there were three, but went on to kill
> > eleven innocent children before the authorities finally decided to stop
> > his killing spree. Before any of these murders began, Olson was well
> > known to police as 'Bobo" the prison informant, a brutal serial rapist
> > of young male inmates.
> > see- Clifford Olson named as informant.
> > see- Bobo the prison rapist
> >
> > Olson had also committed approximately eighty rapes around Vancouver
> > without ever being apprehended!
> > quote-This is a fellow that committed approximately eighty rapes in
> > Greater Vancouver. We know from undercover policewomen who were in his
> > home when he was identified as a suspect that he actually had a map up
> > on the wall of his apartment, his flat, and on the map he had marked up
> > the locations of his attacks.
> > see pg/4- Kim Rossmo
> > Quote: Since 1981, questions have been raised about the search for
> > Canada's first known serial killer. This account shows in meticulous
> > detail, how the investigation unfolded from the outset. It is possible
> > that Olson might have been stopped early in his rampage, when two
> > officers, each working separate cases, identified him as a suspect.
> > see- Olson's full story
> > To this day, an ex police member, Kettle is continuing to be vocal
> > about his attempts to have Olson investigated at the time. The RCMP
> > blocked all attempts. There never was a court case.
> > see- The best Olson story
> >
> > The murder of Leo LaChance disclosed the complicity of the Crown and
> > the RCMP in a cover-up to benefit this killer, a known RCMP informant.
> > Information regarding this killer's protected informant status was
> > prohibited from being made known during the court case and even
> > withheld from the subsequent inquiry.
> > see- story
> >
> > This informant was on the RCMP payroll when he killed two people. He
> > confessed, yet no charges were ever laid. This story has now been
> > removed from news site- www.montrealgazettemay17_2002.pdf Contact them
> > for information as to why this has now been removed from their website.
> >
> > Danny Kane was involved in many murders and was authorized to receive
> > two million dollars from the RCMP at the time of his death.
> > Quote:
> > Serious questions are being asked as to why the RCMP looked the other
> > way when they knew that their informant, Danny Kane, was personally
> > involved in almost a dozen different murders.
> > see- story
> >
> > Recently, CTV W5 looked into another suspicious case in Kenora Ontario.
> > A suspect was arrested and charged with murder. Years later the charge
> > was stayed when another suspect surfaced. The other suspect, a police
> > informant, the police investigator, his uncle! The police refuse to
> > investigate further or to charge the cop.
> > see- W5 story
> >
> > This dangerous RCMP agent was permitted to move right in with his next
> > victim. There were no warnings. It took years of enduring judicial
> > obstruction for the mother of the murder victim to find out that her
> > son's killer was an RCMP agent
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > quigley
> >
> > Joined: 21 May 2006
> > Posts: 727
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:09 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Quote:
> > Port Coquitlam appears to be a massive
> > sea/rail port, from what I can tell the biggest port in the Vancouver
> > area.
> > This would mean a preponderance of international shipping (particularly
> > Asian) This would be the same area/source for the stories of women
> > disappearing onto ships.
> > If anyone can find any reference to tunnels or mines or Hells Angels
> > etc. in the Surrey or Port Coquitlam area
> > that might be useful.
> >
> > The boundaries of the Dominion Av and Burns Rd properties owned by the
> > Picktons are in fact north of the Lougheed Hwy and the massive rail
> > connections are to the south, but all in very close proximity to both
> > the farm and Piggy's Palace. There are certainly no major ports
> > adjacent to either of the Pickton properties, but it is interesting to
> > note that the Burns Rd property leads eastward to the Pitt River.
> > Doesn't take much stretch to visualize smaller logging or fishing
> > vessels being able to transport things from the Pitt River location
> > down river to the major ports around Surrey, New West and Richmond.
> >
> > There is one major port on the Fraser River in Richmond where I was
> > involved in a private investigation/search (body ultimately recovered
> > from the Fraser). One of the things we talked about at the time was a
> > massive "chute" that goes about 100' up in the air and appears to have
> > something to do with the logging industry (massive wood chipping
> > operation??). The particular location we were in is called Mitchell
> > Island. It is a very industrial type area with a lot of transport
> > trucks, containers, auto parts places, reputed chop-shop locations,
> > etc. I'm pretty steely, and it was one of the blackest, scariest places
> > I've ever been with weird people in the shadows, watching what we were
> > doing and ducking out of sight. Long story ... another time.
> >
> > Just mainly trying to point out where the water runs from and to in
> > relation to the Pickton boys.
> >
> > BTW ... while you are looking at that same area west of the Pitt River
> > bridge, further west around the corner of Lougheed and Shaughnessy is a
> > hotel called "The Shaughnessy" (I think) ... I do know that it is
> > reputed to have heavy HA patronage.
> >
> > Just to the east of the Pitt River bridge is a hotel that used to be
> > called "The Wild Duck Inn" and used to be referred to as "The
> > Gilnetter". Also known for lots of HA attendees.
> >
> > Thunkerdrone, FWIW ... the Pitt River bridge is the dividing line
> > between POCO and Haney. There was previous mention of a HA clubhouse
> > across the road from the Pickton property in POCO. Don't know whether
> > it ever was determined if it was the Domion Av or Burns Rd property.
> > There is also a Haney chapter of the HA, so looks like there is a lot
> > of HA activity in that general area.
> >
> > quig
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > Desespere
> >
> > Joined: 21 Apr 2006
> > Posts: 991
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:32 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I can't remember the name of the bike club in Edmonton, it used to be
> > the Rebels. The fortress was on 83 street and 115 ave if I remember
> > correctly, and was still there when the other one took over from the
> > Rebels. It moved after that, 1990's I think. I don't know where they
> > gather now. Is HA in Edmonton?
> > _________________
> > Take the first step in faith. You don't have to
> > see the whole staircase, just take the first step.
> > - Martin Luther King Jr.
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > willow
> >
> > Joined: 30 Apr 2006
> > Posts: 1793
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:54 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Hi Des, Yes, they're in Edmonton, Winnipeg, Ontario, Quebec, don't know
> > about Saskatchewan, but if they aren't there then that's probably the
> > only place they aren't. I am pretty sure they are in the maritime
> > provinces too.
> > _________________
> > http://www.nanowrimo.org
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > willow
> >
> > Joined: 30 Apr 2006
> > Posts: 1793
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:27 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Quote:
> > So now we may find out the real reason Clifford Olson was able to
> > sell information on the bodies location to the RCMP?
> >
> > What really happened? Did Olson do it alone after all? Or was he paid
> > to take the fall and shut up?
> >
> > Thunkerdrone you may be interested in this site as well
> >
> > http://www.injusticebusters.com/06/RCMP2006.shtml
> >
> > Also check out our Olson thread if you havn't already.
> > http://www.freeforum101.com/edmontonsk/viewtopic.php?t=981&highlight=...
> >
> > There's some hair raising stuff here, and yes I think its related to
> > the death cult stuff you've been edumacating us on with your wonderful
> > links.
> > You may be able to help tie some of this together with your POV.
> > _________________
> > http://www.nanowrimo.org
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > quigley
> >
> > Joined: 21 May 2006
> > Posts: 727
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:46 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
> >
> > A few years ago there were definitely "prospecting" clubs (I think aka
> > "puppet" clubs) for HA in Saskatchewan. They are clubs that go by other
> > names, but supposedly do the dirty work for the HA.
> >
> > I read an article on it recently about the heirarchy and the various
> > affiliations, but can't recall all of it. Will try to find the info
> > again and post it.
> >
> > quig
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > quigley
> >
> > Joined: 21 May 2006
> > Posts: 727
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:51 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Re Vancouver Ports, and a post recently about Stan Hennessy being
> > linked to the HA:
> >
> > Quote:
> > The Vancouver Sun published the picture last week prompting questions
> > about the link between the union and the Hells Angels - the most talked
> > about organized crime outfit in B.C. but the one with the least number
> > of members in jail.
> >
> > Local 31 in Delta led by Hennessy represents more than 6,000 workers in
> > B.C. and the Yukon, including about 230 civilian employees of the
> > Vancouver police, 80 civilian employees of the Abbotsford force, about
> > 350 inside workers at the Greater Vancouver Regional District, and
> > several hundred truckers who haul containers at the Port of Vancouver.
> >
> > Vancouver civilian police employees have access to highly sensitive
> > information, ranging from the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC)
> > to criminal records. They liaise with Crown attorneys, deal with the
> > public at front counters, assist victims, and perform secretarial work
> > in all sections of the department.
> >
> > Let's not even talk about the Vancouver Port which is internationally
> > renowned for being a gateway for contraband.
> >
> > from:
> > http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f4ad0a1...
> >
> > quig
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > adrian
> >
> > Joined: 13 Apr 2006
> > Posts: 675
> > Location: ALBERTA
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: Thunker:::
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > YIKES
> >
> > It has also taken years and years for the murders here, to be looked
> > at, and the surrounding areas. BTW Saskatchewan, Alberta, and B.C.
> > there are a hell of a lot of missing and/or murdered. The task force,
> > is being quiet, but they have some great profilers, and investigators,
> > of the homicidal sexual sadist.
> >
> > There could actually be a brotherhood of sorts, and that could contain,
> > many types of people.The way the gals are killed are not disclosed,
> > other than then, the obvious burning to some, and one with full body
> > trauma. Unless someone has learned more info., I wonder if any are
> > secretly held, and used, tortured, till deemed disposable.Twisted sick.
> >
> > Plus with bodies splintering out all over, there are a lot of different
> > jurisdictions.I hope the police from each place is keeping in touch
> > with each other.There could even be a cop who has knowledge, who knows?
> >
> > _________________
> > THX
> >
> > Back to top
> >
> > quigley
> >
> > Joined: 21 May 2006
> > Posts: 727
> >
> > Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Re HA in Saskatchewan ...
> >
> > Um ... I guess hellsangelssaskatoon.ca with www. in front of it might
> > give us a bit of a clue here
> >
> > and from a Criminal Intelligence Service Canada 2001 report at
> > http://www.cfdp.ca/crint01.htm
> >
> > Quote:
> > Trafficking in cocaine and marijuana continues to be the primary
> > activity of the HELLS ANGELS Saskatoon chapter. The gang manages
> > numerous marijuana grow operations and is also involved in strip clubs
> > and escort agencies
> >
> > from Injusticebusters "Gangs of Saskatoon"
> > http://www.injusticebusters.com/04/Gangs_of_Saskatoon.htm
> >
> > Quote:
> > The Hells Angels are using street gangs to deal illegal drugs such as
> > "crystal meth," a highly addictive stimulant popping up everywhere on
> > the streets of Saskatoon, say police.
> >
> > "There is a tonne of crystal meth in town here. It's appeared in huge
> > quantities over the past year," Saskatoon Police Services Sgt. Gavin
> > Morgan told the Saskatchewan News Network.
> >
> > "We do have intelligence that there are connections in the drug trade
> > between the Hells Angels and the Native street gangs."
> >
> > quig
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > The Hells Angels seem to be the missing link between the CIA drug lords
> > and the various street gangs, be they the black , Italian, or native
> > gangs
> > not to mention the fact that the CIA has been known to plant their own
> > in key positions at many police departments:
> >
> > CIA importing cocaine into U.S.: Dateline NBC
> >
> > video
> > http://tinyurl.com/yxs4wf
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > I watched that and drew the conclusion that the CIA denies it,
> > So no, they did not admit dealing drugs.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > A Los Angelas Police narcotics detective
> > said it. I believe him. btw, he is not the only one to come
> > forward) He was recruited by the CIA , but turned them down
> > to work for the LAPD instead.
> > found another video on this:
> > video:
> >
> > Former narcotics investigator Mike Ruppert was forced out of the LAPD
> > in 1977 when he exposed the evidence of drug trafficking by the CIA.
> > THis is one of his first appearances caught on video in 1997 at the
> > Granada Forum in California. Topic is CIA Drug Running.
> > http://tinyurl.com/yjugzk
> >
> > Reply » .com/ya86ey
> > **********
> > gornk wrote:
> > > I was speaking today with a colleague, trying to
> > > get myself inside the head of a blood-drinker,
> > > and that of a rich and powerful blood-drinker at
> > > that.
> > >
> > >
> > > What strains the credulity of the average person is that they
> > > cannot believe that 'respectable', 'intelligent', 'prominent'
> > > people would engage in such things. Is it possible?
> > > But to better understand , research the life of Benjamin Franklin for
> > > some insight into the type of people I am referring to.
> > > Benjamin Franklin was both ingenious and satanic.
> > >
> > >
> > > In my research, the conclusion that I came to is that this belief
> > > system is also prevalent among some of the most prominent,
> > > prolific, and brilliant minds in the world.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hence, the rich and powerful involved, and very willing both to provide
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > eachother victims and to help conceal the crimes.
> > >
> > >
> > > Some of these people are worshipped for their genious.
> > > Their genious is fed by evil, but their genious also produces
> > > immeasurable wealth and knowledge to mankind.
> > >
> > >
> > > The rich and powerful are heavily into hedonism. They recognize no
> > > boundaries. Their quest is to achieve complete omnipotence, and these
> > > people feel that they are performing A SERVICE TO HUMANITY each time
> > > they ritualistically take a life. Each time they give a life surge to
> > > the stronger among us.
> > >
> > >
> > > That is why the ritual murder is termed a 'sacrifice'. They are willing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > that humanity , (and the victim's loved ones) lose these people in
> > > order that the stronger among us, the smartest, perhaps even the
> > > ingenious, will gain , at any cost, greater fortitude, greater life
> > > force, to perform their great works in the service of mankind.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is also why the victims of this network tend to be the weaker
> > > underlings, society's discarded, such as poor and uneducated
> > > people/hitchhikers/ prostitutes. These are deemed to be the expendable
> > > sector of society, the equivalent of beef cattle, in service to the
> > > greater good of humanity.
> > >
> > >
> > > warning: graphic video of kosher slaughter process at
> > > kosher meat packing plant.
> > >
> > >
> > > (similar to satanic ritual torture of animals and people. Ancient
> > > practice of drinking blood of tortured victims/animals in occult
> > > rituals. Why?
> > > The blood of the tortured is the most ancient narcotic , going back to
> > > man's most primitive beginnings. The blood of the tortured is full of
> > > natural opiates (endorphin pain-killers) secreted by the brain
> > > into the blood stream. The blood of the tortured (animal or human) is
> > > also full of adrenaline, the natural stimulant that is secreted into
> > > the blood by the adrenal glands
> > > for the 'fight or flight' response . Thus pain and fear produce a
> > > harvest of opiates and stimulants from the glands of a mammal.
> > >
> > >
> > > graphic video of kosher slaughter: http://tinyurl.com/y8zfu8
> > >
> > >
> > > (note how this death chamber is crafted to generate maximum terror in
> > > the animals.)
> > > Standard north american plants immediately kill the animal with
> > > a bolt through the head, far different from the kosher meat processing
> > > depicted here. In this video, notice how the slaughter chamber is
> > > crafted to provoke maximum terror among the animals, with the deafening
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > sound of several hellish machines operating simultaneosly and the
> > > simultaneous death throes of several animals. Note how the machine
> > > immobilizes the head of the animals while its voice box is ripped from
> > > the throat with a hook after the throat is slit, to silence the animal,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > then the machine squeezes the torso of the animal, its blood draining
> > > into a grate
> > > and the legs then mechanically crushed to prevent it from standing
> > > while it dies slowly, . This is
> > > conducted to produce maximum pain and terror. (notice that part
> > > of the ritual is that if the animal makes eye contact with anyone
> > > else other than the appointed throat cutter, they are to kick blood
> > > into it's eyes.)
> > >
> > >
> > > In occult rituals, the victim is tortured and their blood drained into
> > > goblets.
> > > This blood is immediately drinken because it provides an incredible
> > > narcotic high.
> > > Just like many popular narcotics are actually a mixture of opiates and
> > > stimulants together (morphine and amphetamines) (codeine and caffeine).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This ancient practice created an addiction among it's proponents. It
> > > became habitual, and also
> > > imbued with spiritual meaning among the ignorant. Ancient man did not
> > > understand why the blood of the tortured contained opiates and
> > > stimulants, or why drinking this blood made him feel like a god. He
> > > thought that this was his mystical connection with dark spirits, and
> > > the narcotic high a reward by spirits for his cruelty toward his
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder how blood drinkers deal with these modern scourges of AIDS,
> > > hepc etc.
> > > ARe people known to be uninfected chosen? Maybe children or
> > > babies in cases that they wish to use actual human blood? Do they have
> > > access to the medical
> > > records of victims? Access to blood lab records or testing facilities?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Somehow they are obtaining victims with clean blood.
> > > In case that blood safety is in question , I would guess that, as
> > > mentioned earlier, we can now synthesize same or even more
> > > powerful endorphin and adrenaline , in the form of narcotic
> > > mixtures,through plant-based opiates (endorphins) and stimulants
> > > (adrenaline) . If the blood cannot be used in the ritual, then the cult
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > will use drugs.
> > > I am willing to bet that there is still a higher than average incidence
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > of HIV among satanists, due to these factors. Especially back in the
> > > early 1980's before public awareness and the attendant precautions.
> > >
> > >
> > > My guess is that these rituals are often designed equally around
> > > ministering to the hormonal/bestial needs of these people.
> > > It is probable that those performing these acts feel that they
> > > reach a physically satiated state from participating. The act of
> > > committing the violence alone, under the proscribed ritual, does things
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > to their blood and brain chemistry from which they derive strength,
> > > both spiritual and physical.
> > >
> > >
> > > A good analogy I can think of is sport hunters and sport fishermen, and
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > especially sport fisherman, who unlike hunters, often release or
> > > discard their catch. There is no logical reason to lure fish and
> > > inflict pain on them, and then release them into the water. These are
> > > not particularly sadistic people either. There is something primordial
> > > and ancient about the life and death struggle of having a fish on the
> > > line. It is struggling for its life, fighting, and one must in turn
> > > resist its fight, in effect fight for one's life. Fight or flight
> > > hormones are released into the blood.
> > > Many people are addicted to the thrill of hooking a big fish, even if
> > > they throw it back.
> > > This is the adrenaline rush of the predator, of the hunter.
> > > Some people watch horror films for the same reason. They get an
> > > adrenaline rush from being frightened, and find that their sedentary
> > > and secure life dulls them into not hormonally experiencing life's
> > > daily struggle for survival. This is the adrenaline rush of the hunted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > These are both fight or flight hormonal rushes that people are
> > > experiencing/achieving.
> > > That of the hunter and that of the hunted. There may be a crucial
> > > difference here. Satanists may be achieving a blood chemistry
> > > conducive to physical stamina, even genius, through ritualistic
> > > violence
> > > (adrenaline rush of the predator) followed by blood drinking, or
> > > perhaps the consumption of powerful narcotics containing both opiates
> > > and stimulants. (Mick Jagger, a knighted Freemason of the highest
> > > order, put out a record called 'Goats Head Soup', with a picture of a
> > > goats head in a pot. He was also a notorious user of heroine, and one
> > > of the Rolling Stones biggest hits is a song called 'Sympathy for the
> > > Devil'.
> > > Mick Jagger fits the exact profile of the satanic persona that I make
> > > reference to .
> > > Extremely wealthy, and revered, gifted and talented, at one point the
> > > subject of mass adoration at its absurd extreme.
> > > He achieved cult-status popularity. People worshipped him, and so he
> > > accepted their offerings......a very good candidate for satanism,
> > > to be recruited by the cult, to be made to drink human blood. He too
> > > would be sacrificing something in participation, sacrificing his
> > > morality
> > > as part of the process, likely in the hopes of attaining greater
> > > strength with which to reward his supporters, and earn their adulation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jagger would be just a tiny cog, one of thousands and tens of thousands
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > of prominent people who are 'dabbled' in the occult, dipped in the
> > > blood.
> > > I mention him here only because his occult past is fairly widely known.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What was not known until recently is the extent of occultism, and the
> > > seriousness
> > > of it practitioners: their extremism.
> > > Bohemian Grove: satanic rituals of rich and powerful
> > > DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE
> > > WHAT IS BOHEMIAN GROVE?
> > > SEE THE TRUTH AS DOCUMENTED IN ALEX'S FILM, DARK SECRETS: INSIDE
> > > BOHEMIAN GROVE
> > >
> > >
> > > Since 1873, the global elite has held secret meetings in the ancient
> > > redwood forest of Northern California. Members of the Bohemian Club,
> > > headquartered in San Francisco, CA, include Former Presidents
> > > Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush family maintains a strong
> > > involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of this all-male
> > > organization don red, black and silver robes and conduct an occult
> > > ritual Wherein they Worship a giant stone owl, sacrificing a human
> > > being in effigy to What they call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated
> > > Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just
> > > Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN
> > > GROVE
> > > watch the video online here:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/j29x9
> > >
> > >
> > > (bear in mind that the ritual depicted here is for the 'outer circle',
> > > the largest and most mainstream gathering of the year. This is where
> > > each member is allowed to bring a guest. This is recruitment time. The
> > > real satanic stuff at the Grove goes on not in the summer time,
> > > when this video was shot, but in the autumn , and the autumn rituals
> > > are ultra secretive, include only insiders in tiny, concealed groups.
> > >
> > >
> > > The grove itself is a massive, thickly forested rural installation
> > > protected by the united states Secret Service. If ritual human
> > > sacrifice (murder) were to take place securely and secretly anywhere in
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > America, it would have to be at a place like this, for it to remain a
> > > secret for so long, and it would likely be somewhere here, on this
> > > forested land, at some dark and obscure time of year.)
> > > Child abductee and child prostitute Paul Bonacci has written a book in
> > > which he describes taking part as a child in pedophile/murder rituals
> > > at Bohemian Grove)
> > >
> > >
> > > Skull and Bones: Secret Satanic Society of the political elite
> > > I. http://tinyurl.com/f9bme
> > > II. http://tinyurl.com/qrg9p
> > >
> > >
> > > Burned bodies are sometimes connected with rituals involving child
> > > sacrifice. The parents should be thoroughly investigated in any case
> > > in which a body is found burned, especially that of a youth.
> > > Burning the body is of course also a good means of destroying forensic
> > > evidence thoroughly. You burn up any finger prints or fibres, and/or
> > > conceal the type of injuries inflicted during the killing. I suspect
> > > the fire department therefore plays a very large role in secret
> > > societies.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as media/police/establishment complicity in this: the mind
> > > boggles.
> > > A fish rots from the head down. If you have the allegiance of key
> > > offices of power, key to the power structures of society, that may be
> > > all that is required.
> > > Everyone in authority is with you, or they are out.
> > > 'You are with us, or you are against us.' From there follows mysterious
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hirings and firings, transfers , promotions, demotions. Recruitment.
> > > Blacklisting, blackballing, blackmailing, setups, defamations/character
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > assassinations. Bribes. Payouts. Honors. Election financing/voter
> > > fraud. Murders. You name it, there are ways to achieve what we are
> > > discussing here.
> > >
> > >
> > > The system can be manipulated from within.
> > > What comes to mind is that virtually unlimited resources are expended.
> > > As in the Jack the Ripper murders (see the film
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From Hell, featuring actor Johnny Depp), some of the killings appear to
> > >
> > >
> > > be 'silencings' or people being 'being disappeared' because they know
> > > something. Canada's justice system is really something too. How many of
> > >
> > >
> > > these apparently random 'first offence' killers are actually hired to
> > > silence people. If they are caught, they know that it means a maximum
> > > of about five to eight years inside. Not bad, if you are secretly paid
> > > a large sum of money. You do five years inside, but you are making
> > > fifty
> > > thousand a year to be there , and there is a good chance that you
> > > will not even be caught to begin with.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hollywood Films about secret societies to watch:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From Hell
> > >
> > >
> > > Skulls
> > > Skulls II
> > > Skulls III
> > >
> > > AS far as a network or a brotherhood, we already have words for some of
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > those: gangs, mafia, etc. How deeply are the bikers, the rappers. or
> > > the mafioso tied up in this? Some these pimp
> > > 'street gangs' like the Crips and bloods in L.A. or the Canadian street
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > gangs are heavily into child prostitution/procurement.
> > > In Halifax it was the Glasgow Guys , a black gang that had a nationwide
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > network of pimps and recruited teenaged girls, transporting them from
> > > city to city. and murdering them if they tried to escape or threatened
> > > to tell anyone. It emerged that the leaders of many of these
> > > rap/pimp/rasta
> > > gangs have been heavily into voodoo, paganism, and attending wiccan
> > > events/occult parties and gatherings. Larry King was a black politician
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > who ran a child pimping ring in Washington, D.C
> > > watch this film: http://tinyurl.com/ykdd9o
> > > It is a made-for television documentary that, mysteriously, never made
> > > it to air, its broadcast cancelled at the last minute by 'the powers
> > > that be'.
> > > If you want to know how deep and how high the corruption goes, watch
> > > 'The Clinton Chronicles' on Google video.
> > >
> > >
> > > one of the ancient Babylonian human sacrifice rituals involved
> > > parents burning their children alive as a sacrifice to 'Molech'
> > > Christine Van Hees was ritually sacrificed and burned by Dutroux and
> > > his cult.
> > > According to people in the area on the night of the murder, who heard a
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > young
> > > woman screaming, one of the last utterances Van Hees is said to have
> > > issued:
> > > "No, not that! Stop! Mum!"
> > > Van Hees was murdered not far from her parents home, in the basement
> > > of an abandoned farm house, and as part of her torture was doused in
> > > kerosine and lit on fire.
> > >
> > >
> > > also of interest:
> > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1-1024319,00.html
> > > Dutroux reveals that police helped in teens' kidnap
> > > BY AGENCIES IN ARLON, BELGIUM
> > >
> > >
> > > Marc Dutroux, whose face in court cannot be shown under Belgian law
> > >
> > >
> > > Marc Dutroux, the Belgian paedophile, revealed today that police
> > > officers helped him to abduct two young women whose bodies were later
> > > discovered buried in his garden.
> > >
> > >
> > > Testifying for the first time at his trial, Dutroux said that he
> > > abducted An Marchal, 17, and Eefje Lambrecks, 19, with the help of a
> > > heroin-addicted friend, who is also on trial, and two other men.
> > >
> > >
> > > "I later found out they were members of the police force," he told the
> > > court, without identifying them.
> > > Dutroux, 47, a convicted paedophile, is testifying on the third day of
> > > his trial in the small town of Arlon. He is accused of kidnapping,
> > > imprisoning and repeatedly raping six girls in the 1990s, and killing
> > > four of them.
> > >
> > >
> > > His defence team says that he was part of a large paedophile network
> > > that reached into the legal establishment.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux told the court: "It is regrettable that four people can never
> > > come back. I cannot repair that. If I hadn't agreed to do what I did
> > > they would probably be alive.
> > >
> > >
> > > "I cannot accept all responsibility, but take responsibility for the
> > > role I played."
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux told the court that one of the police officers and his alleged
> > > drug-addict accomplice, Michel Lelièvre, raped Ms Marchal after the
> > > teenagers were kidnapped while on holiday near the Belgian coastal town
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > of Ostende.
> > >
> > >
> > > But Dutroux denied murdering the two young women, who according to a
> > > post-mortem examination, were most likely to have been drugged until
> > > they were unconscious and then buried alive.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux said that he left the two young women with Mr Lelièvre and a
> > > French accomplice, Bernard Weinstein, whom Dutroux has today denied
> > > killing, after previously admitting to murder while in custody. The two
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > men planned to force the women into prostitution.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux told the court: "I never thought that they were going to kill
> > > them. I find it a great shame that these girls died. It's a disaster."
> > >
> > >
> > > Their bodies were discovered by the police in September 1996, buried in
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the garden of a property belonging to Dutroux.
> > >
> > >
> > > A month before, the brutally abused bodies of Julie Lejeune and Melissa
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Russo, two eight-year-old girls, were unearthed from another Dutroux
> > > property, along with that of Mr Weinstein.
> > >
> > >
> > > Post-mortem examination reports showed that the children had starved to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > death after being raped and beaten.
> > > **********
> > > transcript of BBC television show broadcast throughout Europe:
> > > Correspondent: Belgium's X-Files
> > >
> > >
> > > Tx Date 5th May 2002
> > >
> > >
> > > This script was made from audio tape - any inaccuracies are due to
> > > voices being unclear or inaudible
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > >
> > >
> > > In 1996 this woman came forward to tell the Belgian
> > > authorities she'd spent her childhood years as the victim
> > > of a paedophile network.
> > > She described a world of organised sexual abuse, torture
> > > and even murder.
> > > It was terrible, you didn't believe your eyes and I didn't
> > > believe that humans could do that.
> > >
> > >
> > > She talked of violent child sex orgies with politicians,
> > > judges and influential businessmen; a Belgian
> > > underworld in which the establishment has refused to
> > > believe.
> > >
> > >
> > > Claude Eerdekens says
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf is a pathological liar; she's a woman who's
> > > invented a series of scenarios, which just don't stand up.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > > A campaign followed to discredit her evidence. But now,
> > > in an exclusive interview, the policeman assigned to
> > > investigate her claims has broken his silence.
> > > He says the enquiry was blocked because it threatened to
> > > reveal too much.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens says
> > > I'm convinced that she has been a victim - that's for sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > > In June 1996 this Belgian slum revealed a bitter secret
> > > that would come to haunt the nation.
> > > The eyes of the world watched in horror. Into the light
> > > emerged two young girls.
> > > Laetitia, aged fourteen and Sabine just twelve were the
> > > latest in a long line of girls who'd gone missing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Marc Dutroux, a convicted rapist and kidnapper, had led
> > > the police to where he'd imprisoned them.
> > > Relief swept Belgium as their tearful homecoming was
> > > caught on camera.
> > > But it soon turned to horror when police revealed the
> > > secret cage hidden in the cellar of Dutroux's house.
> > >
> > >
> > > The girls had been kept here, drugged and repeatedly
> > > raped.
> > > But what of Belgium's other missing children. Eight year
> > > olds Julie and Melissa who were missing for more than a
> > > year and twelve others who'd vanished mysteriously.
> > >
> > >
> > > Was this a new lead in the hunt for them?
> > >
> > >
> > > The hopes of their parents were soon dashed. Within
> > > days Marc Dutroux led police to the site where the bodies
> > > of Julie Lejeune and Melissa Russo were buried.
> > > The parents were informed but when the Russos asked to
> > > see their daughter, Melissa, for the last time, they were
> > > refused.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mother of Melissa
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > We begged, we were crying to see her. Really we insisted
> > > with our lawyer, we really cried. They said no, it's not
> > > possible, that's the law. But we said what's the point of
> > > the law. And they said it's for your own psychological
> > > good.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carine Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > It's not up to them to know what's good for our
> > > psychological well-being. What would have been good
> > > for us was to be certain.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel says:
> > > It's six years since the police unearthed the bodies of
> > > Julie and Melissa buried in the garden of this house.
> > >
> > >
> > > What's extraordinary to me is that though Dutroux's in
> > > jail, he's never been tried for these crimes. It's as though
> > > the judicial system froze when faced with having to bring
> > > him to trial.
> > >
> > >
> > > Officially Dutroux lived on benefits yet this house, now
> > > derelict, was one of five that he owned.
> > > The bodies of two more missing girls were found at
> > > another of his houses- Efje Ambrecks and An Marchal.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > PAUL MARCHAL
> > > Father of Victim
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't believe that it was possible that children were
> > > kept in, in a cellar and were raped and, and kept there,
> > > until that Dutroux was, taken to prison and that he, that
> > > he could see the cellar. At the moment I had to believe.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > >
> > >
> > > Before the murders Marc Dutroux had already been
> > > convicted of five charges of rape and kidnapping. Yet
> > > somehow he'd served only six years in jail before he was
> > > released back into the Charleroi underworld.
> > >
> > >
> > > This was once Belgium's industrial heartland but today
> > > its most famous industry is crime.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux melted back into this realm of prostitution, drug
> > > traffic and stolen cars and began to plan his next project -
> > > the kidnap of children.
> > > For the parents now burying their murdered daughters
> > > after more than a year of fruitless searching, this was not
> > > the end of their nightmare. They would soon find out
> > > that Dutroux had been a prime suspect from the start, yet
> > > nothing had been done to save their girls.
> > >
> > >
> > > Melissa's father is still asking why his daughter was
> > > allowed to die.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > GINO RUSSO
> > > Father of Melissa
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ten days after the kidnapping of Julie and Melissa in '95,
> > > three witnesses said it was Dutroux who was kidnapping
> > > children. But they don't go looking for Julie and Melissa
> > > at his house straight after the kidnapping. It's
> > > inexplicable. And he continues to kidnap other children.
> > > They put a special surveillance unit to watch Dutroux
> > > and he continues to kidnap children. It's inexplicable;
> > > the whole thing is inexplicable from start to finish."
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel says:
> > >
> > >
> > > What is known is that Dutroux was finally caught when
> > > his white van was identified. It had been used to snatch a
> > > sixth girl, miles away from his home patch.
> > >
> > >
> > > The man who arrested Dutroux was Jean Marc Conerotte,
> > > an investigating magistrate. He became a national hero,
> > > uniquely respected by the parents of the murdered
> > > children.
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Marchal
> > > "He is someone who want to know the truth. You can feel
> > > it when you talk to him, you can feel that he want to
> > > investigate, the he want to have the truth. He is a very
> > > good magistrate."
> > >
> > >
> > > Conerotte arrested Dutroux's associates. Among the first
> > > was Jean Michel Nihoul.
> > > Nihoul and Dutroux had been seen at the site of the latest
> > > abduction the night before. They'd been in constant
> > > phone contact the day it happened. And the next day
> > > Nihoul gave ten thousand pounds worth of drugs to an
> > > accomplice of Dutroux.
> > >
> > >
> > > One witness claimed, Nihoul had ordered a girl.
> > > Conerotte knew Nihoul had influential friends, he
> > > suspected he was the brains behind a network supplying
> > > clients with children to abuse. It's a charge Nihoul
> > > denies.
> > > Conerotte appealed to the public for information.
> > >
> > >
> > > "When I saw him walking down the stairs, I thought that I
> > > knew everything about him. It was a shock; I thought
> > > finally they stopped him.
> > > Regina Louf was one of the first to come forward. She
> > > said that as a child she'd been abused for many years in a
> > > paedophile network involving Nihoul and Dutroux.
> > > I remember Jean Michel Nihoul as a very cruel man; he
> > > abused children in a very sadistic way.
> > >
> > >
> > > She says that at the age of twelve she was taken with
> > > other children to sex parties. And, she told investigators,
> > > Dutroux was there, working for Nihoul.
> > >
> > >
> > > REGINA LOUF
> > > "Dutroux was a boy who brought drugs, cocaine and
> > > something like that, to these parties, who brought some
> > > girls, watched girls at these parties. Nihoul, he, he was a
> > > sort of party beast. Dutroux was more on the side."
> > >
> > >
> > > Nihoul denies he's ever met Regina Louf. But her story's
> > > never changed. Nihoul, she said, was one of those who
> > > organised the parties and invited the cream of Belgian
> > > society - judges, politicians and influential businessmen
> > > in order to compromise them.
> > >
> > >
> > > "It was big business, yeah and it was very well organised
> > > too. There was a lot of money going on there and a lot of
> > > blackmail also. They had a lot of parties; they filmed it
> > > even. So, yes, yes, it exists. I know it sounds crazy and I
> > > know that there is a big taboo on everything like that but
> > > it exists."
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf's story was horrific. But her account of a
> > > violent paedophile underworld was by now reinforced by
> > > new witnesses, some of whom also named influential
> > > people.
> > >
> > >
> > > The investigation began. The witnesses' identities were
> > > protected. Each was given a codename beginning with X.
> > > Regina was X-1. They went up to X-9. Their testimonies
> > > became known as Belgium's X-Files.
> > >
> > >
> > > The task of trying to verify them fell to a young police
> > > investigator.
> > >
> > >
> > > RUDY HOSKENS
> > > Team Leader, Police
> > > investigation
> > >
> > >
> > > "They were telling stories we hadn't heard before in our
> > > lives. Things we couldn't believe at first. So we told
> > > ourselves, is this true? Could this be true? And when it
> > > is true it's very, it's very, it's frightening that things like
> > > that could happen".
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > "We had a special room for the interviews. It was
> > > specially kept for people who had been victimised by
> > > such matters. There was a camera in the room. They
> > > were done mostly in the evening or the early hours.
> > > When the interviews were finished, they were written
> > > down by a few people of my team, all the way from the
> > > first word to the last, literally."
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > But before the investigation could get under way there
> > > was a bombshell.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean Marc Conerotte, the man who'd arrested Dutroux,
> > > who'd saved the imprisoned girls, was sacked from the
> > > case.
> > >
> > >
> > > His removal caused a public outcry. Belgians lost faith in
> > > their judicial system: Crowds descended on the Palace of
> > > Justice and accused the courts of colluding with the
> > > killers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Crowds shouting
> > >
> > >
> > > The father of one of the murdered girls spoke for all.
> > >
> > >
> > > Gino Russo
> > > Subtitles
> > >
> > >
> > > "This decision is like spitting on
> > > the graves of Julie and Melissa."
> > >
> > >
> > > Gino Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "As an investigating magistrate, Conerotte, who arrests
> > > ten people and they sack him and they appoint another
> > > investigation magistrate, Langlois, who's never done the
> > > job before. It's his first appointment in the most
> > > important investigation, in the biggest file of the century.
> > > You're going to put in an investigating magistrate who's
> > > never done the job before - can you understand that?"
> > >
> > >
> > > Three hundred thousand outraged Belgians marched
> > > through Brussels in a demonstration of grief and
> > > solidarity. This White March was the largest protest the
> > > country had ever seen.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > Belgians felt that the dismissal of Conerotte was a
> > > betrayal of Dutroux's victims, that it signalled the end of
> > > any real search for a network.
> > >
> > >
> > > The two rescued girls were overwhelmed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Laetitia
> > > Subtitle
> > >
> > >
> > > "Thank you for coming in such large numbers."
> > >
> > >
> > > Sabine
> > > Subtitle
> > >
> > >
> > > "Thank you all for coming."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > The country's highest legal authorities had removed the
> > > only judge in which the public had any faith because he'd
> > > attended a fund raising dinner for the families of missing
> > > children. A conflict of interest they'd called it; a lack of
> > > judgement. The government feared a revolution.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > VINCENT DECROLY MP
> > > "I think there were a kind of insurrection climate, a kind of
> > > pre-revolutionary climate here. You know, the big
> > > powers in Belgium so the magistrates and the political
> > > circus, the government, the parliament, everything was
> > > totally discredited, everything was totally discredited."
> > >
> > >
> > > No one knew what to believe anymore. Rumour and
> > > speculation spawned a variety of wild theories.
> > >
> > >
> > > Actor
> > > "You will instigate ultimate fear."
> > > A full length feature film suggested the whole affair was part of an
> > > extreme right wing plot to destabilise the country.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > 'Blue Belgium'
> > > by Rob Van Eyck
> > >
> > >
> > > "I'm very pleased Victor. Three hundred thousand idiots
> > > marching in Brussels and an ocean of white balloons -
> > > magnificent! Pathetic and impressive at the same time.
> > > We really got them exactly where we want them."
> > >
> > >
> > > To appease the public's concern, parliament set up the
> > > Dutroux Nihoul Commission.
> > > subtitles
> > >
> > >
> > > I propose that the commission
> > > observe a moment's silence.
> > >
> > >
> > > 00.15.22
> > > Aston
> > > VINCENT DECROLY MP
> > > Commission member
> > > As the pressure grew more and more they decided, in a
> > > kind of panic climate, to create the commission because
> > > the political world had to try to find an answer.
> > >
> > >
> > > 00.15.35
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > But what the commission revealed was incompetence that
> > > beggared belief.
> > >
> > >
> > > Police had been told of Dutroux's plans to make money
> > > by kidnapping children. They had his house under
> > > surveillance throughout the abductions.
> > >
> > >
> > > They even searched inside and heard the sound of
> > > children but failed to find the dungeon.
> > > What it established beyond doubt was that the girls could
> > > have been saved.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> > > Commission member
> > >
> > >
> > > They had everything they needed to arrest Dutroux.
> > > That's the scandal of this affair. Dutroux was known; he
> > > had previous form. They had valid intelligence that he'd
> > > built the hiding place in the cellar for the little girls.
> > > There was information from Charleroi that the children
> > > could be at the house.
> > > But when the parliamentary commission began to ask
> > > why, was it incompetence or had someone in authority
> > > protected Dutroux, co-operation with their investigation
> > > stopped.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > GINO RUSSO
> > > Father of Melissa
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "It was completely sabotaged to the point that all the work
> > > they did has been locked away in archives for thirty
> > > years. It was parliament that voted that on itself. Can
> > > you imagine?"
> > >
> > >
> > > If the commission's job had been to restore stability, to
> > > clear the air of insurrection, it worked.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > The danger to Belgium's establishment was over. But
> > > there was still no answer to the most important question -
> > > was the catalogue of failures pure incompetence or had
> > > Dutroux and his friends enjoyed protection?
> > >
> > >
> > > Were they protected?
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > CLAUDE EERDEKENS MP
> > > Commission member
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "On the question of protection we didn't discover much,
> > > unless you count the best protection that Dutroux could
> > > have had and that's the incompetence of Belgium's police
> > > and judicial system."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > >
> > >
> > > But Jean Michel Nihoul, the man suspected of hiring
> > > Dutroux to kidnap children, was released from jail after
> > > just five months. It's still unclear if he'll ever come to
> > > trial and some members of the commission remain
> > > convinced he is protected.
> > >
> > >
> > > Vincent Decroly
> > > "We succeeded in demonstrating that Nihoul was really an
> > > artist in protection, really a specialised man in
> > > manipulating enquiries, policemen and judges. We had
> > > proof about that."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Nihoul's release just left more unanswered questions for
> > > the families. The mother of Melissa, Carine Russo, has
> > > access to the legal evidence the court will bring against
> > > Dutroux.
> > > She's found no answers, nothing to clarify who stole,
> > > raped and killed her daughter. All charges Dutroux
> > > denies.
> > > Carine Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "Five years on there's still no admission from Dutroux.
> > > There's no material evidence, no witness statements,
> > > which state that it was Dutroux who really kidnapped the
> > > children, who really raped them and who really killed
> > > them."
> > >
> > >
> > > 00.18.57
> > > Gino Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "It's a catastrophe because nothing is anymore clear
> > > today. Nothing is clear."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > The parents suspect Dutroux was not acting alone. That
> > > others were involved in abducting and hiding the girls.
> > >
> > >
> > > When he was briefly imprisoned for car theft in
> > > November 1995, Dutroux claims to have left the girls in
> > > his cellar, in this specially constructed cage with a little
> > > food and water.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > On his release, after nearly four months, Dutroux claims
> > > he'd found the children barely alive, that he tried to save
> > > them but they died in his arms.
> > >
> > >
> > > But for the Russos, this story can't be true.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carine Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "Four months incarceration of two little girls of eight
> > > years old in a cellar in the middle of winter. But when I
> > > say cellar it's a little hide built inside the cellar, so it's
> > > tiny, three metres by two, even less. No windows,
> > > completely dark, they cut off the heating."
> > >
> > >
> > > Gino Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > They cut the electricity and heat.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carine Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > And no food - for four months. Then he says when he
> > > came out of prison four months later, they're still alive.
> > > Well then they're superhuman. It's unimaginable two
> > > children of eight holding out, alone, with nothing to
> > > sustain them - no food, no heat, no human, no
> > > psychological contact. Nothing. In a little cage like that
> > > for such a long time and survive.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > So how did they survive so long? Did someone else keep
> > > them alive?
> > >
> > >
> > > The Palace of Justice in Liege is the seat of one of
> > > Belgium's most powerful figures - Prosecutor General
> > > Anne Thily, who's in charge of the case.
> > >
> > >
> > > She says there's no evidence to contradict Dutroux's
> > > version of how the children died.
> > > So how did the children survive so long? Nearly four
> > > months, until Dutroux was released from prison.
> > > 00.21.12
> > > Aston
> > > ANNE THILY
> > > Prosecutor General
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > No, no, Julie was dead. Melissa was nearly dead and
> > > then she died. I think it was the next day.
> > >
> > >
> > > But Melissa, how could she have survived nearly four
> > > months?
> > > Anne Thily
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > Survive in what condition? In a lamentable state, she
> > > was so weak she could not get up. That's according to
> > > Dutroux of course; no one else was there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux was acting alone. This is the mantra repeated
> > > again and again in Belgium with a certitude that for the
> > > victims' parents is inexplicable.
> > >
> > >
> > > They believe that investigators have blocked every lead,
> > > rejected every clue, which would reveal that Dutroux was
> > > kidnapping girls for someone else.
> > >
> > >
> > > Most painful perhaps is the autopsy report, which shows
> > > Melissa had been repeatedly raped about two weeks
> > > before her death, while Dutroux was in jail.
> > >
> > >
> > > So who raped this child? Dutroux denies he raped the
> > > girls.
> > >
> > >
> > > But isn't it simple to find out if Dutroux raped them or
> > > someone else - scientifically?
> > >
> > >
> > > Carine Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "Normally yes, in principal, yes. But in fact the most
> > > elementary scientific tests, like DNA tests, the traces of
> > > the culprit on the body of the child, were just not done."
> > >
> > >
> > > Back in the Palace of Justice they say the DNA tests were
> > > done but the results were inconclusive.
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you explain why there was no DNA analysis done?
> > >
> > >
> > > Anne Thily
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > DNA analysis was done Madame!
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > And the results?
> > >
> > >
> > > Anne Thily
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > Nothing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > What does that mean? That there was no trace of sperm?
> > > Anne Thily
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > They were in a very putrefied state. It did not allow us to
> > > make an analysis of that type, of sperm or anything.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > That's not what's written in the autopsy report. Again
> > > the story doesn't square.
> > >
> > >
> > > The bodies weren't severely decomposed. DNA can be
> > > identified from samples taken long after death. The
> > > question remains unanswered - why is there no DNA
> > > result, might it have shown that someone else had raped
> > > Melissa?
> > >
> > >
> > > Other forensic tests that should have been routine were
> > > just not done. Human hairs collected from Dutroux's
> > > dungeon weren't sent for analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > > The logic was strange. They claimed that as there was no
> > > evidence anyone else had entered the cage, there was no
> > > need to analyse the hair.
> > >
> > >
> > > In five years Conerotte's successor has shed no light on
> > > the abduction, imprisonment or death of the girls.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jacques Langlois refused to be interviewed.
> > >
> > >
> > > PAUL MARCHAL
> > > Father
> > > "Langlois don't believe in a sort of network. For Langlois,
> > > Dutroux is the only one who used the girls. For Langlois
> > > it's, it's simple; there's one raper, Dutroux, a closed case."
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > By the Spring of 1997, evidence of a paedophile network
> > > linked to the Dutroux affair was emerging from the
> > > testimony of the X witnesses.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf had provided investigators with details of
> > > her childhood abuse, which they'd begun to check.
> > >
> > >
> > > RUDY HOSKENS
> > > Team Leader, Police
> > > investigation
> > > "In one of her testimonies she explained how a certain
> > > person had been murdered in a certain place. So, we
> > > went to look for that case, that old case, she described it,
> > > where it happened more or less."
> > >
> > >
> > > REGINA LOUF
> > > "I remember it like it's a film in my head. I can close my
> > > eyes and see every little detail of that house she was
> > > murdered."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Regina Louf described a house where in 1984 she said
> > > she saw the torture and murder of a young girl. The
> > > house was connected to an underground mushroom farm.
> > >
> > >
> > > The building has since been demolished. But Rudy
> > > Hoskens' team identified it and matched Regina's story
> > > to an unsolved murder - that of fifteen year old Christine
> > > van Hees.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > "She gave us some details that made us think it's
> > > impossible to give without having been there at that
> > > place, or without having, yeah, lived that in the way the
> > > body was found at that time and the way she described
> > > the person was, was killed. There were some things that
> > > were exact."
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "It was a sort of bondage, so her legs and her hands and
> > > her throat were connected with the same rope and when
> > > she moved she strangled herself, yeah."
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > The credibility of Regina Louf's testimony hinged partly
> > > on whether she really knew the house where Christine
> > > Van Hees was killed.
> > >
> > >
> > > This man grew up there, though his family sold it before
> > > the murder.
> > > It was two houses knocked into one with a unique
> > > passage of stairs and corridors. No one, he says, could
> > > describe it unless they'd been there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Man
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "There was the corridor here between the two houses.
> > > And she drew a picture of the doors inside. They were
> > > antique doors and she drew the mouldings. She
> > > described the wallpaper and the front step. I don't know
> > > how she could have described it all so faithfully if she'd
> > > never entered the house."
> > >
> > >
> > > Man
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "I don't know Regina Louf; I've never even met her. All I
> > > know is from her description of the house, of the
> > > mushroom farm, my brother and I agreed, I'm sure, it's
> > > certain she entered the mushroom farm. It's certain. "
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > The police were now convinced they were on to
> > > something. That Regina Louf's testimony was credible.
> > >
> > >
> > > What's more it gave them a new link between Marc
> > > Dutroux and the man accused of being his boss, Jean
> > > Michel Nihoul.
> > >
> > >
> > > In the year before her death, Christine Van Hees was a
> > > regular visitor to the Brussels ice-rink where Marc
> > > Dutroux also went.
> > >
> > >
> > > He'd already been banned from the rink in Charleroi
> > > where he was notorious for molesting girls. The manager
> > > remembers it well.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ice rink manager
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "And then I saw him with a young girl who was up against
> > > the lockers like this. And Dutroux, who was in front of
> > > her with his hands all over her like this."
> > >
> > >
> > > So I grabbed him and pulled him back and brought him
> > > over here. At that moment my father-in-law turned up
> > > and when he found out what was happening he wanted to
> > > hit him. So I grabbed his arm, otherwise he would have
> > > punched him."
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > >
> > >
> > > When she wasn't skating Christine Van Hees used to
> > > spend time in the building of a pirate radio station. It
> > > belonged to Jean Michel Nihoul.
> > >
> > >
> > > Both men, Dutroux and Nihoul, were at Christine Van
> > > Hees's murder, according to Regina Louf.
> > >
> > >
> > > And Dutroux was involved in the murder?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "He watched it and he didn't do something, anything and
> > > also he abused her that night, so, yes, he was involved."
> > >
> > >
> > > How many people were there?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "I still don't know for sure. But around eight."
> > >
> > >
> > > Nihoul, Dutroux?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "And a lot of others. So. But everybody except Dutroux
> > > is free."
> > >
> > >
> > > Oenka Frenkiel
> > > Nihoul denied it. But her testimony was dynamite. If
> > > true, it meant Dutroux and Nihoul were linked with
> > > another murder. But then out of the blue the
> > > investigation was stopped.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > "We received a message that we couldn't investigate
> > > anymore just like that. We were sent home. Just like
> > > that, without an explanation because our work hadn't
> > > been done all right. Very strange."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Why were you taken off this case?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > "I wish I knew. Perhaps we were touching something we,
> > > we couldn't touch. Some people say this, we didn't have
> > > the proof at that moment to say things like that but
> > > perhaps we were coming closer to some things, yeah,
> > > perhaps."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Like what things?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > I don't know, something Belgium or the world shouldn't
> > > know about.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Patric De Baets, the head of Hoskens' team, had been one
> > > of Belgium's most respected police investigators. It was
> > > he who'd taken Regina's testimony. Now he too was sent
> > > home, accused of manipulating her evidence.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patric De Baets, who questioned her, was accused of
> > > planting some of the information so that she would
> > > reproduce it. You watched that investigation. Was that
> > > true?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > No, no way. No way. We even had some magistrates,
> > > judges and superior gendarmerie officers watching how
> > > we interviewed and they watched it from the first to the
> > > last moment and if we did, hadn't done it right at that
> > > time, they should have said to us, don't work that way.
> > > But they didn't tell us anything.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > For De Baets and his colleagues, charged with
> > > manipulating an enquiry, a Kafkaesque battle now began
> > > to clear their names.
> > >
> > >
> > > They were suspended and Regina Louf got a call from a
> > > member of the new team assigned in their place. His
> > > motive was clear.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "He said well, we have to search for mistakes you made
> > > now and you have to prove now that you were right. I
> > > said no, I don't have to prove that I'm right. You have to
> > > investigate if I'm right or not. I'm not a police officer, I
> > > can't do house search and I can't interrogate my abusers,
> > > you have to do that. I just can tell my story and, and
> > > make testimony, that's all I can do. He said wrong, you
> > > have to prove it."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > News about Regina's story began to leak out.
> > >
> > >
> > > When the media took it up, it was to destroy her.
> > >
> > >
> > > Voice over
> > > Subtitles
> > >
> > >
> > > "X-1 and her fantasies -
> > > an investigation beyond the real."
> > >
> > >
> > > Presenter
> > > Madame, Monsieur, bonsoir...
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > The flagship programme of the government funded
> > > French language channel was unequivocal. De Baets was
> > > guilty they declared and Regain Louf, a sinister and
> > > deranged liar.
> > >
> > >
> > > Claude Eerdekens
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > I think Regina Louf is a pathological liar. She's a
> > > woman who's invented scenarios that don't stand up to
> > > scrutiny. It's all been shown to be fiction.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Well no, not according to the investigators who were
> > > sacked. They don't agree with you, they say they weren't
> > > even allowed to investigate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Claude Eerdekens
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > No, that's not accurate. I continue to believe these men
> > > did not do their jobs properly and that they let the public
> > > think that what Regina Louf and the other anonymous
> > > witnesses said was partly true. That's all a tissue of lies,
> > > stories verging on the pornographic. They make no
> > > sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > Oenka Frenkiel
> > > Weren't you manipulated? I mean people have said she
> > > was completely mad; she invented the whole thing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rudy Hoskens
> > > "Well some people fear, some people say this but they
> > > weren't there. We lived all the testimonies, we've seen
> > > them, we did the investigations. So, for ourselves, we
> > > know what should have been right or what could have
> > > been wrong. But when you don't, when you haven't
> > > lived it, when you haven't seen everything, you can't give
> > > an opinion on this, it's impossible. But we found some
> > > things that should have been investigated more."
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "I am married for thirteen years, I have four children, I live
> > > a normal life. I have a business of my own so I am not
> > > crazy. We are labelled as crazy, we have a stigma, we are
> > > stigmatised as crazy persons because we had the courage
> > > to talk about things that happened in our past. With
> > > person who played a role in the Belgian economy or
> > > politics or something like that. It was easier to make us
> > > crazy than to believe us."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Despite its earlier investigating zeal, Belgium's
> > > parliament now stood by as Regina Louf's testimony was
> > > declared worthless. The judiciary announced it would
> > > not be used in any trial.
> > >
> > >
> > > Snf that might have been the end of it had the files of the
> > > entire Dutroux investigation not been leaked.
> > >
> > >
> > > Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck and two other investigative
> > > journalists had access to every witness statement, every
> > > police report in the Dutroux affair.
> > >
> > >
> > > Their book on Belgium's X-Files shook the country.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > How did you get the information for the book?
> > >
> > >
> > > Aston
> > > MARIE-JEANNE VAN
> > > HEESWYCK
> > > Journalist
> > > "We had the opportunity to see the whole police file on
> > > the, the affair and the problem is that we wanted to be
> > > sure that there was no manipulation between, behind that
> > > because it's, it's always possible. So, we decided to meet
> > > a lot of people who were named in the files, who were
> > > witnesses in the file. And we met those people, without
> > > saying that, what we knew already. And we listened to
> > > their story."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > They found the new team had rewritten Regina Louf's
> > > original statements. Testimony had been changed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck
> > > "We began to check it. And we began to read again all the
> > > questioning of Regina Louf to see how they did that,
> > > rewrite it. And one by one we discovered that the
> > > gendarmes, police of De Baets, had pretended that De
> > > Baets manipulate, had manipulated the investigation. So
> > > everybody was tricked."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > To this day no evidence has ever been produced to
> > > support the allegations against De Baets. Yet he
> > > continues to be accused.
> > >
> > >
> > > I met him and his colleague in a Brussels café.
> > >
> > >
> > > Their careers are in ruins and the investigation into
> > > Regina's story is dead. And yet two separate inquires,
> > > cleared them of every charge that they manipulated her
> > > testimony.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patric De Baets
> > > "I show you the final report of the internal inquiry of the
> > > gendarmerie. It was made twenty-sixth June 2000."
> > >
> > >
> > > Frenkiel
> > > So what does this mean?
> > >
> > >
> > > Patric De Baets
> > > "That I'm not a bad policeman."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > But now that's cleared you, you face new, new charges,
> > > new allegations, new accusations against you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Patric De Baets
> > > I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid of that because I know the
> > > conclusions will be the same.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > But why this constant barrage of accusations?
> > >
> > >
> > > Patric De Baets
> > > I don't know. I can imagination things but I can't explain
> > > them.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > For six years the parents of the murdered girls have
> > > grappled with the inexplicable. Why were their
> > > daughters left to die? Why has Dutroux never come to
> > > trial and why has every lead that might have revealed a
> > > network behind Dutroux been blocked or ignored?
> > >
> > >
> > > But Belgium's lost interest in their struggle. Today
> > > anyone who talks of a network, even the parents, is
> > > dismissed as deranged.
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Marchal
> > > I talked in press about children who were raped and so on
> > > and they started again with saying that I'm a little bit
> > > foolish and that I'm fantasising. I'm sure that in several
> > > years everyone will believe that networks will exist then
> > > they have to accept.
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Since Marc Dutroux's arrest anyone who's questioned
> > > the official line has been attacked. Every lead that might
> > > have widened the net has hit the buffers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dutroux meanwhile has sat in jail. But outside, in the
> > > shadowy circles in which he moved, potential witnesses
> > > in the Dutroux affair have died in strange ways.
> > >
> > >
> > > A police informer with links to the Charleroi underworld,
> > > Jose Steppe, told a journalist he had explosive
> > > information on Dutroux. Two days before they were due
> > > to meet he died. His family believes he was poisoned.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean Paul Tamino was up to his neck in the Charleroi
> > > underworld of stolen cars and prostitution. He was
> > > summoned to see the Charleroi police and disappeared.
> > > The day of Dutroux's arrest his foot was fished out of the
> > > canal.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "It's quite a coincidence that they die just before they want
> > > to testify, you know, that's strange."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Social worker, Gina Pardaens worked with abused
> > > children. She'd identified the paedophile members of a
> > > pornography ring who'd threatened her. When she
> > > reported the threat to the police she was killed in an
> > > unexplained car crash.
> > >
> > >
> > > Francois Reyskens told a friend he'd seen one of the
> > > missing girls, Melissa, alive in Holland. Before he could
> > > tell the police his body was found crushed on the railway
> > > line. (sound of Train).
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Some twenty people, all potential witnesses in the
> > > Dutroux affair, have died in mysterious circumstances.
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "I survived it all, I don't know why. I survived my
> > > abusers, I survived my testimony just because I said it all.
> > > Why kill me now, you know, I'm mad."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > An uneasy peace has returned to Belgium. The streets
> > > are calm; the danger of insurrection has passed.
> > > The paedophile networks persist. Sometimes there are
> > > even arrests. Earlier this year nineteen men from one
> > > village were charged with child rape.
> > >
> > >
> > > But the Dutroux affair has paralysed Belgium's judiciary.
> > > After six years in jail, there is still no date for his trial.
> > > When it comes, it will satisfy no one.
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Marchal
> > > The trial of Dutroux, it will be a theatre, circus and I
> > > don't want to be part of a circus. The truth is that there is
> > > a network and that they have to search for that network so
> > > that you can save other children in the future.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carine Russo
> > > Voice over
> > >
> > >
> > > "In this country we will never get to the truth. There is
> > > just too much truth that needs to be exposed. I am
> > > certain that the people want to understand; they are
> > > capable of understanding a lot more than the politicians
> > > and judiciary want to tell them. They treat the public like
> > > children."
> > >
> > >
> > > Regina Louf
> > > "I did what I could do. I testified, I spoke up to the police,
> > > to the judges, I spoke up to the press, you know, I yelled
> > > it out. What can I do anymore now, I can't."
> > >
> > >
> > > Olenka Frenkiel
> > > Children continue to go missing in Belgium. Dutroux's
> > > arrest has made no difference. Last year it was more than
> > > two thousand.
> > > Fifty-two of those cases remain unsolved.
> > >
> > >
> > > Voice over
> > > Olenka Frenkiel is live on-line now. Express your
> > > opinions and e-mail her your questions at:
> > >
> > >
> > > www.bbc.co.uk/correspondent
> > >
> > >
> > > Reporter
> > > OLENKA FRENKIEL
> > > ****************
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=203148388
> > >
> > >
> > > Latest on Canadian Pig Farmer, Robert Pickton's Serial Murder Trial:
> > > Judge Steps Down
> > > Published on Thursday, June 02, 2005 | Author MORRIS, Nick.
> > >
> > >
> > > Justice Geoffrey Barrow of British Columbia Supreme Court, the judge
> > > that was scheduled to preside over Canada's most prolific murder case
> > > was replaced Wednesday just days into pre-trial proceedings.
> > >
> > >
> > > Justice Barrow is stepping down from the trial of Robert Pickton, who
> > > stands accused of at least 22 murders and is believed to be Canada's
> > > most prolific serial killer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm informed lawyers at a short
> > > hearing that Justice Barrow cannot hear the case due to "scheduling
> > > problems."
> > >
> > >
> > > Dohm said he'll be replaced by Justice James Williams, who normally
> > > sits in New Westminster's Supreme Court.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pickton watched the events unfold as he appeared via a video link from
> > > the pre-trial centre, where he is currently incarcerated. Dressed in a
> > > black and grey shirt, he passively observed the scene in the courtroom.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pickton viewed proceedings via video link.
> > > Pickton viewed proceedings via video link. (?AP)
> > >
> > >
> > > Justice Barrow had only heard two days worth of arguments for and
> > > against a strict publication ban on pre-trial proceedings, that has
> > > been imposed on the trial. The hearing is due to resume on Friday and
> > > lawyers have been informed that they will need to recap their views on
> > > the ban. Dohm has said "The court will not lose any real time in this
> > > change."
> > >
> > >
> > > Pickton, a pig farmer from Vancouver's Port Coquitlam district has been
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > in custody since his arrest on 7 February 2002, following a lengthy
> > > search of his farm and other properties he has owned. The search
> > > revealed the remains of 15 bodies located on his farm.
> > >
> > >
> > > In January of 2004 the remains of a further 10 women were found. In
> > > total 31 separate traces of DNA have been found on Pickton's property.
> > >
> > >
> > > Most of the victims are believed to have been vulnerable women working
> > > in the sex-trade in Vancouver's seedy Downtown Eastside area. The first
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > woman to go missing from the area was Rebecca Guno, a prostitute and
> > > drug addict, in June of 1983.
> > >
> > >
> > > Since her disappearance, 61 women have been reported as missing from
> > > the BC area. It was not until early 2002, 19 years after the first
> > > woman vanished, that police made any charges in connection with any of
> > > the disappearances.
> > >
> > >
> > > After a few months of searching Pickton's pig farm, police charged him
> > > with seven counts of murder. In September and October of 2002 he was
> > > charged with a further eight counts of murder, following the discovery
> > > of yet more remains on his property. DNA traces of another victim were
> > > discovered on 9 January 2003, just days before Pickton's 13 January
> > > pre-trial, but officers announced that they would not be adding any
> > > further charges until afterwards, fearing that it would cause lengthy
> > > delays to the case.
> > >
> > >
> > > Crown prosecutor Mike Petrie and Pickton's defence lawyer Peter Ritchie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > would not comment on the reasons behind the switch of judges and how
> > > they felt about it, but the public opinion is one of surprise. Many
> > > feel that problems such as scheduling should have been considered
> > > before the preliminary hearing began. The general consensus was that
> > > the trial would continue into next year.
> > >
> > >
> > > Justice James Williams will preside over the restarted preliminary
> > > hearing when it starts this Friday.
> > > ********************
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yxbp83
> > >
> > >
> > > 'On March 10, 2004, it was revealed that human flesh may have been
> > > ground up and mixed with pork from the farm.
> > > This pork was never distributed commercially, but was handed out to
> > > friends and visitors of the farm.'
> > > *************
> > > the way this system operates is that key people are put in key places.
> > > For example
> > >
> > >
> > > Republican (so-called conservative) Congressman Mark Foley was revealed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > to be aggressively gay in pursuit of male teenagers and youth working
> > > as pages in the house.
> > > Then we find that he was placed in positions to influence policy
> > > in certain ways:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yx269u
> > > 'Foley played a leadership role on AIDS issues, supported the
> > > Employment Not-Discrimination Act, opposed anti-gay provisions of
> > > faith-based legislation, and voted against the Federal Marriage
> > > Amendment.
> > > He also co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's
> > > Caucus and helped to write much of the legislation regarding
> > > prosecution of pedophiles and child pornographers.'
> > >
> > >
> > > ******************
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://xfilescanada.spaces.live.com/blog/
> > >
> > >
> > > Pickton Murders
> > >
> > >
> > > The lawyer representing U.S. television stations said he does
> > > not believe the publication ban covers the Internet.
> > > But the stations have said they will black out transmissions
> > > to Canada.
> > > RCMP Const. Katherine Galliford said "police will be watching
> > > for violations of the publication ban." She goes on to say
> > > "And if there are any concerns that come to light we'll
> > > certainly investigate that further," Mentioning nothing about
> > > possible connections to missing children, or other serial
> > > killers involved in satanic cults reaching at least from
> > > Mission to Vancouver. She makes no comment that the police
> > > have stood down their watch on the Vancouver East Side.
> > >
> > >
> > > In May 2005, Crown attorneys added 12 more first-degree murder
> > > charges against Pickton, bringing the grim total to 27.
> > > Rebecca Guno, a drug addict and prostitute, vanished from
> > > Vancouver's downtown eastside in June 1983. Her name was the
> > > first of 61 that would eventually be placed on the list of
> > > women to disappear mysteriously from the drug-infested area
> > > over the two decades that followed.
> > > It wasn't until 19 years later, early in 2002, that charges
> > > were laid in any of the cases. The charges came not long after
> > > police focused their efforts on a farm in Port Coquitlam,
> > > outside Vancouver. Dozens of officers scoured the farm in
> > > search of evidence.
> > > Within months, the owner of that farm, 53-year-old Robert
> > > William Pickton, would face seven murder charges.
> > > September 1998: - Vancouver police set up a team to review
> > > files of up to 40 women missing as far back as 1971. One
> > > tracked down, deaths of two others from illeness, overdose,
> > > confirmed but no trace of many others.
> > > In July 2002, police made a plea for the public's help in
> > > locating nine more missing women, and said that if they cannot
> > > be found, their names will be added to the list of 54 other
> > > women who are missing.
> > > In the spring of 1999, two Vancouver detectives teamed up with
> > > two RCMP detectives to review the file pertaining to the 31
> > > missing women. In August of that year police began
> > > investigating an account by a woman, not a prostitute, who
> > > said that a man snatched her from the stairwell of a hotel in
> > > Vancouver's downtown eastside. The woman jumped from her
> > > captor's moving vehicle to escape.
> > > Accusations that police haven't done enough reached a fever
> > > pitch when former detective and geographic profiler Kim Rossmo
> > > claimed he told police that a serial killer was at work in the
> > > Vancouver area and was ignored. Rossmo said that
> > > disappearances from the neighborhood were normal, but that the
> > > number of incidents was abnormally high between 1995 and 1998.
> > >
> > >
> > > "If these activities go back to, say, 1995, seven years ago,
> > > some of (the victims) could be buried fairly deep," says
> > > former Vancouver police officer Kim Rossmo, an expert in
> > > serial killers. Contrary to his earlier statment for some
> > > unknown reason, he later says,"Now, one factor to the benefit
> > > of the police is criminals are lazy, so they're not going to
> > > be 40 feet below the surface,"
> > > Rossmo, who sued the Vancouver department for wrongful
> > > dismissal when they failed to renew his contract, claimed that
> > > a single predator was responsible for killing prostitutes in
> > > downtown Vancouver. The Vancouver department dismissed his
> > > claims as sour grapes.
> > >
> > >
> > > In 1998 I was introduced to Willy Pickton by a local Freemason
> > >
> > >
> > > West Baker. "Be careful, not everyone that has gone down that
> > >
> > >
> > > road has come back" was the ominous warning he gave me, he
> > >
> > >
> > > also warned me to stay out of the pig barn after 11:00 pm, or
> > >
> > >
> > > I would be horrified at what I saw, as Willy liked to butcher
> > >
> > >
> > > all different kinds of animals, in all different ways, like a
> > >
> > >
> > > Nazi doctor experimenting on Jews might. At first it seemed
> > >
> > >
> > > there was very little out of the ordinary, except the saturday
> > >
> > >
> > > "cock fights", and the all night orgies and strange foods at
> > >
> > >
> > > "Piggies Palace" however, after the news broke in 2002, creepy
> > >
> > >
> > > things just outside of my awareness started to make a whole
> > >
> > >
> > > lot more sense, and I, having done business there, was
> > >
> > >
> > > publicly requested to give a statment to the police. So I
> > >
> > >
> > > attended a series of interviews with the police "Missing
> > >
> > >
> > > women's task force" regarding the matter and submitted my dna
> > >
> > >
> > > sample as requested, spent hours under the lights and camera,
> > >
> > >
> > > almost as if I was on the spot. I was assured my dna would
> > >
> > >
> > > only be used in this case, I found this to be untrue, much
> > >
> > >
> > > later. I noticed something strange about the whole thing
> > >
> > >
> > > though. Appathy. They didn't seem to care about the
> > >
> > >
> > > implications of what I said, they were more interested in what
> > >
> > >
> > > I knew, they didn't seem to have the humanity, they were
> > >
> > >
> > > strangly detached, so I tested them a little, and found them
> > >
> > >
> > > not interested in the victims, or the truth behind the
> > >
> > >
> > > implications. I suggested, perhapse they start a missing
> > >
> > >
> > > children's task force, they thought that was funny, their
> > >
> > >
> > > micro expressions gave that away, though they didn't laugh.
> > >
> > >
> > > All of a sudden, it dawned on me, their in on it, the
> > >
> > >
> > > vancouver police were rounding them up, and Willy Pickton who
> > >
> > >
> > > dealt with them on a weekly basis, (he had an inside track on
> > >
> > >
> > > abandoned vehicles), was getting another cleanup contract, all
> > >
> > >
> > > the girls who were robbing the other drug addicts, instead of
> > >
> > >
> > > normal citizens, and were unable to re-pay their dealers, and
> > >
> > >
> > > had deteriorated (look at their faces) to a point as to be
> > >
> > >
> > > useless as prostitutes, were flaged by the Hell's Angels.
> > >
> > >
> > > Delivered to the farm in abandoned vehicles, and proccessed by
> > >
> > >
> > > Willy who was a mechanic, and a butcher. I realised the
> > >
> > >
> > > taskforce was compromised some how, so I pretended to still be
> > >
> > >
> > > their friend, and conducted my own investigation. As my own
> > >
> > >
> > > investigations, and "interviews" later revieled, the victim's
> > >
> > >
> > > thyroid glands, adrenaline glands, and other "Delacacies" were
> > >
> > >
> > > extracted from the dead, or sometimes still living beings,
> > >
> > >
> > > before the rest was put through a wood chipper, and fed to the
> > >
> > >
> > > "Piggies" Willy called them. Before the Media Ban, the Mayor
> > >
> > >
> > > of Port Coquitlam admitted to dining at a farm also owned by
> > >
> > >
> > > the Picktons, just down the road from Dominion St, there is an
> > >
> > >
> > > ominous quancet, on Burns Road the infamous "Piggies Palace".
> > >
> > >
> > > There were blood rituals there, adrenaline glands as
> > >
> > >
> > > appatizers, next to the cocaine dishes, during an all night
> > >
> > >
> > > orgy, the girls not yet ready to be served were kept captive
> > >
> > >
> > > at another location, and brought out as they were needed, for
> > >
> > >
> > > what ever purpose...so... here I am, kind of the odd man out
> > >
> > >
> > > so to speak, surrounded by vampyres, from dusk till dawn, so
> > >
> > >
> > > to speak with no real idea what was going on until much later.
> > >
> > >
> > > Politicans connected to Hell's Angels, connected to free
> > >
> > >
> > > Masons, oddfellows, illuminati, witches, warlocks, satanists,
> > >
> > >
> > > police, my "friends". Judges that put the media ban on this
> > >
> > >
> > > are in league with them as well too, Conrad Black owns all of
> > >
> > >
> > > our media, is a buildiberger. It would seem that these secret
> > >
> > >
> > > societies run our whole world, and they eat us too. Well, I
> > >
> > >
> > > really didn't expect to find this but I did. After the horror
> > >
> > >
> > > I saw, it will be a release if they come to kill me, cause I
> > >
> > >
> > > havn't even got to the best part yet, the tunnels. More of the
> > >
> > >
> > > missing woman and children should be found in the old train
> > >
> > >
> > > tunnels of New Westminster, than run deep underground to
> > >
> > >
> > > vancouver and to coquitlam, where they are blood fed, and put
> > >
> > >
> > > to use as required, people often hear them under the city, in
> > >
> > >
> > > the sewers, and under the stores along Front St. women
> > >
> > >
> > > sobbing, children crying, they are believed to be ghosts when
> > >
> > >
> > > heard, so people back track real quick, and never made the
> > >
> > >
> > > true discovery yet, but I did. Take a walk in the old
> > >
> > >
> > > abandoned train tunnel at waterfront station in Vancouver if
> > >
> > >
> > > you want to meet them. Most of those people are no longer
> > >
> > >
> > > people anymore, they would kill a person who tryed to save
> > >
> > >
> > > them, like a cat raised in an apartment, they would run from
> > >
> > >
> > > an open door to freedom. The royal engineers from old
> > > Westminster in England, brought these tunneling practices from
> > >
> > >
> > > their country over here, as well as their secret societies,
> > >
> > >
> > > and did their merlin black magic rituals with them.
> > > Some of those people in the tunnels, have been born and raised
> > >
> > >
> > > there, and they eat their dead. I just don't think social
> > >
> > >
> > > services can handle that kind of rehabilitation, I don't know
> > >
> > >
> > > just what we should do, it would appear if you follow the
> > >
> > >
> > > traces, back through the Freemasons and such...I bet even the
> > >
> > >
> > > Queen is blood fed...no wonder heaven won't help us. Somehow
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave pickton got the contract to demolish and excavate
> > >
> > >
> > > Woodlands Insane Assylum, fitting, he has experience
> > >
> > >
> > > excavating mass unmarked graves, who else would the city of
> > >
> > >
> > > New Westmonster call. Did you ever wonder where all of those
> > >
> > >
> > > in-patients from RiverView and Woodlands went?? They did't
> > >
> > >
> > > just release 500 insane people... did they? P and B Used
> > >
> > >
> > > Building Supplies, and P and B Salvage are just two of the
> > >
> > >
> > > companies owned by Dave and family. I heard another recent
> > >
> > >
> > > little tid bit from the Pickton's self proclaimed "good
> > >
> > >
> > > friend" of 25 years, West Baker, who runs the surplus store
> > >
> > >
> > > 623 front street, New Westminster, who has 200 institutional
> > >
> > >
> > > meal trays in his back store-room (for some reason), and an
> > >
> > >
> > > access tunnel to the underground cattacombs of New West, who
> > >
> > >
> > > has strong connections (sells them explosives such as live
> > >
> > >
> > > grenades) with local Nazi activists, (Dale you know who you
> > >
> > >
> > > are) who also lives commonlaw with Kathy Arcand, Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > Pickton's Ex-Goulfriend. West claimes that Willy Pickton owns
> > >
> > >
> > > all the land that the Picktons still hold, they just switched
> > >
> > >
> > > around the titles and holdings, and the fun loving Willy is
> > >
> > >
> > > ripping us tax payers off for a team of lawyers that he
> > >
> > >
> > > doesn't pay for, so when they all help him get away with it
> > >
> > >
> > > too, like they did when he went to trial in 1994 for stabbing
> > >
> > >
> > > a prostitute in the back several times, she managed the knife
> > >
> > >
> > > away from him and slit his throat in self defence, so he got
> > >
> > >
> > > off... So i'ts business as usual, Dave wont even speak to
> > >
> > >
> > > Willy, because he doesn't want to blow their cover. Dave goes
> > >
> > >
> > > to Sturges, where they make their plans for September... As
> > >
> > >
> > > for this going on elseware, I think all the world should check
> > >
> > >
> > > very carefully for strange things in the cattacombs and
> > >
> > >
> > > tunnels of their cities, you never know, there could be
> > >
> > >
> > > someones loved one there, waiting for the light of day.
> > > ****************
> > > check out the blood-drinker headed down into what could be
> > > one of North Korea's tunnels:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yldqb8
> > >
> > >
> > > this brief segment of street-level surveillance video of street-goers
> > > was
> > > shot in one of North Korea's occult power centers, all shot within
> > > close proximity of oneanother (area dominated by massive masonic
> > > obelisk monument) over the course of one morning.
> > > a bureaucratic office complex area infested with military police and
> > > what appear to be bureaucrats.
> > >
> > >
> > > (the person is pale, with a red scarf, and a white shirt stained with
> > > blood)
> > >
> > >
> > > ************
> > >
> > >
> > > for an idea of how crazy things can get watch The Clinton Chronicles:
> > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3251077391435895140&q=clinton...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ************
> > >
> > >
> > > Hells Angels
> > >
> > >
> > > The Hells Angels actually have a direct connection & origin with Skull
> > > n' Bones.
> > >
> > >
> > > It might seem bizarre but here it is:
> > >
> > >
> > > The Hells Angels in the early days were made up in large part of
> > > Vietnam War veterans, who brought back with them their penchant for
> > > opium trafficking. There was a huge illicit drug trade component to the
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Korean and Vietnamese wars. A good Hollywood film about this is the
> > > film Air America starring Mel Gibson (1990) about the CIA's private
> > > airline, and their drug smuggling operations in Cambodia (CIA sold
> > > drugs and guns in Laos during the Vietnam War to finance its secret
> > > operations in SouthEast asia)
> > > Anyway, there are some who say the Vietnam War was exactly what JFK
> > > thought it was and tried to prevent: an unecessary war that turned out
> > > to be nothing more than a gigantic arms dealer / drug lord scam foisted
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > on the American people. The war meant tens of billions to American gun,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > armaments, chemical weapons, and munitions dealers, not to mention drug
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > lords, and when JFK threatened to disband the CIA and cease their plans
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > for the war in Vietnam, it was one of the reasons that the CIA
> > > assassinated JFK.
> > > watch JFKII on Google video for an excellent recap of why JFK was
> > > killed and who did it.
> > > Anyway, the Hells Angels was composed largely of 'retired' and
> > > drug-addicted Vietnam-era CIA operatives and cocaine-snorting war
> > > veterans.(burnouts) who had lived their entire careers /lives
> > > outside/above the law during their varous oversees and domestic
> > > adventures. They were not a very pleasant group of people . George Bush
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Senior and his CIA skull n' Bones clan assassinated JFK & launched the
> > > Vietnam War under Lyndon B. Johnson. The Hells Angels have always been
> > > a distribution conduit/network for illegal drugs imported by the CIA
> > > into NA. (Guess they were sick of letting the Italian mafiosos make all
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the money! so they let their fellow Bonesmen's friends and CIA running
> > > dogs take over a lot of the street traffic.
> > > So, now you know why the Angels always seem to be connected with this
> > > occult stuff. They are called 'Hells'' Angels for a reason, you know!
> > > To get up to speed on the whole JFK thing watch the following
> > > film online here: http://tinyurl.com/yfja2y JFK II
> > >
> > >
> > > and also rent Oliver Stone's 1991 film 'JFK', starring Kevin Costner as
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > chief prosecutor .
> > >
> > >
> > > I have little doubt now that many of these 'serial murders' throughout
> > > the christian world, are actually ritual rapes and blood-drinkings and
> > > burnings carried out by Skull n' Bones -type cults, involving
> > > essentially the most dangerous and brazen and deadly people in the
> > > world: the Secret Services and Intellegencia at the pinnacle of the
> > > world's political and economic elite..
> > > It could be that these bodies are being discarded from flying planes in
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the same that these planes do regular drug drops.
> > >
> > >
> > > actually my background on the Hell's Angels was not quite accurate, in
> > > that it implied that the Hell's Angels formed only after the Vietnam
> > > War.
> > > The gang actually had its roots from the Korean war, because a big part
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > of the CIA role in the wars in both Korea and Vietnam were about
> > > trading guns for drugs. Exporting guns to SouthEast asia, to BOTH
> > > sides, often in exchange for drugs to be brought back to the U.S. via
> > > Air America, the CIA's unofficial airforce. After all, how are you
> > > going to start a profitable war in Asia, selling guns to both sides, if
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > a lot of people cannot even afford to buy your guns? The solution was
> > > to trade guns for drugs, to link up with the drug mafias in Asia. Fly
> > > tons of guns and ammunition into S.E. Asia, and on the same planes fly
> > > back tons of drugs , (cocaine and heroine and hashish you name it) into
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the United States. (usually the west coast, which is part of the reason
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LeftCoast Lotusland has its reputation as a druggie haven)
> > > The CIA needed a conduit for taking delivery of the drugs in the U.S. ,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and this is where the Hells Angels had their beginnings.
> > > Even the corpses of returning Vietnam War soldiers were packed with
> > > heroine and cocaine.
> > >
> > >
> > > When the Vietnam War ended, the CIA started up their adventures in
> > > South America, mainly because that was their business, and the end of
> > > the Vietnam War meant they needed a new gig. Their business was and is
> > > to start wars in drug-producing regions, and trade armaments for drugs
> > > to be imported into the U.S. and other countries.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am sure there were more than a few incidents of bikers and mafia
> > > harrassing or ordering hits on Vietnam War protesters and peace
> > > activists.
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway, the same pattern has continued to this day.
> > > The opium production of Afghanistan has tripled since the U.S. invaded
> > > in 2001. My guess is that the heroine trade from Florida and New
> > > Orleans, north to New York is flourishing,
> > > as that is a likely conduit point for the drugs coming out of the
> > > Middle East.
> > >
> > >
> > > *****************
> > > Ted Gunderson and the CIA's International Trafficking in Children
> > >
> > >
> > > Former head of FBI Ted Gunderson exposes a pedphile network run by the
> > > CIA for satanic purposes.
> > >
> > >
> > > watch online:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/ujghu
> > > ****************
> > > "The Ted Gunderson Files"
> > >
> > >
> > > http://educate-yourself.org/tg/
> > >
> > >
> > > Haven't had time to go through all of them, but am linking directly to
> > > Gunderson's article on the abduction/disappearance of Johnny Gosch:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://educate-yourself.org/tg/goschcradiointerview19aug03.shtml
> > >
> > >
> > > and, still regarding Johnny Gosch with pics of the boys:
> > >
> > >
> > > from http://www.johnnygosch.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > **********
> > >
> > >
> > > am placing the Johnny Gosch abduction info here as a theory that
> > > relates to the sex industry and organized crime.
> > >
> > >
> > > The recent possibility/belief that journalist Jeff Gannon is Johnny
> > > Gosch, coincides with the suicide(??) of Hunter S. Thompson:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://educate-yourself.org/cn/goschgannohuntertrublingtale05apr05.shtml
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gonzo journalist, Hunter Thompson wrote a book called "The Strange and
> > > Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs" which chronicled his
> > > living and riding with the HA in California. Paul Banacci (who admits
> > > to having originally abducted Johnny Gosch) maintains that Hunter
> > > Thompson was the camera man involved in a snuff movie made while
> > > Banacci was involved with the pedophile ring that Johnny Gosch was
> > > abducted into.
> > >
> > >
> > > am convinced that we have now found generally who is doing the
> > > majority of these things.
> > >
> > >
> > > Most of the prostitution surrounds 'procurement' activities. Sometimes
> > > it is young guys approached by older guys/richer guys "Get me some
> > > drugs. get me some girls."(the younger the pimp, the younger the girls
> > > he has access to , so some of the real young guys going missing are
> > > probably small time drug pushers and pimps who have done business with
> > > the wrong people and need to be shut up. Maybe somewhere along there
> > > someone decided that gang 'hits' on people should actually be
> > > profitable for the gang. Why just take someone out in a mob hit when
> > > that person can actually be sold and then killed.)
> > >
> > >
> > > These rich bastards get more sadistic. They are used to getting what
> > > they want, when they want, and doing whatever they lwant to whoever
> > > they want to do it to. So when they watch the porn, the VERY hard
> > > stuff, they want more, then they want it made to order, then they want
> > > the real thing. They ask around . They find a circle of people into it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Girls who will be hurt for money. From there, they find
> > > their way into the real monsters, the people who pay big money to kill
> > > the girl's babies, drink their blood. Some girls think its a good way
> > > to make drug money. Some have pimps or gangs push them into it, further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and further and further along. They can get girsl who ran away from
> > > home at 13, spent a year in Jamaica, her pimps are moving her around.
> > > They go where the money is. If there is a Superbowl or an Olympics or a
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > World Series or a big Stones gig, anything big and decadent that
> > > attracts money, they want to be there with the young young young girls.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thes eguys get connected. They collect girls like ranchers collect
> > > horses, keep small groups of fed and groomed women addicted to drugs
> > > working for them. The money in this is huge. These girls fry their
> > > brains on drugs, forget who they are, where they are, even which city
> > > or country they are in. They appear in porn flicks. They get tied and
> > > whipped, locked in boxes, hung from ropes . Then they go back to the
> > > hotel room.Then one night they get taken to someone who takes it all
> > > the way , and they get tortured to death or burned alive. And their
> > > owner gets a great big cash deposit into a new account that someone
> > > gave them a password for the previous week. $200,000.
> > > Welcome to the world of the ultra rich, the CIA , secret service, high
> > > society adventure boys. They believe in living life as though it is one
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > big movie set.
> > > Someone real high up has a lot of power. Their group is expanding ,
> > > they manipulate things to make sure their choice for mayor or police
> > > chief gets in, and competitors get destroyed. The money flows.
> > > The bottom line is , this stuff is the the ultimate luxury. It takes
> > > money.
> > > Rich criminals. Rich period, are into this.
> > > This is the anything goes world of the ultra rich, the Bushes, theCIA
> > > adv Then these groups get addicted to it. they grow. They need more
> > > girls.
> > > Rich gays and pedophiles get into it. More and more people start
> > > disappearing. Young men, children.The Hells angels are all ex- CIA drug
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > addicts and sadists who have lost it . The rich have private security,
> > > private investigators, many of them ex police officers,ex marines, ex
> > > CIA or CSIS or MI6 agents. They build up little private armies of these
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > people, and these people have friends. Soldiers, bikers, dealers,
> > > pimps, mob contacts.
> > > They help out. They have contacts in the govt.,police dept., coroner's
> > > office. Investigations are shut down, people reassigned, people have
> > > little 'accidents', people 'commit suicide' at surprising times. The
> > > police start to give up.
> > > The killings become more frequent, and the cults less selective about
> > > their victims. Less careful, less demanding. So then just about anyone
> > > will do as a victim, anyone who won't go missed , whose disappearance
> > > won't be notable, who will not be protected, and who is considered
> > > generally useless.
> > >
> > >
> > > You want to find your killers, follow the money. Most of this is about
> > > drugs and occult and pimping and total depravity.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, basically we have it all figured out now.
> > > I think we now know what is generally happening to the majority of
> > > these missing people. They 'disappear ' for a few days, then their
> > > bodies
> > > are found. The people taking them often work for various CIA
> > > operations, CIA-connected biker gangs
> > > and organized crime networks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Listen to this excellent internet radio show
> > > the Alex Jones show:
> > >
> > >
> > > (you have to realize that what he is saying is true. Most will not
> > > believe
> > > it because it is so incredible, but once you start checking it all out,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > everything, absolutley EVERYTHING, he is saying on his daily radio show
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > is true. He has grown so popular that this show is broadcast on over
> > > 100 public AM and FM radio stations across the United States.)
> > >
> > >
> > > click here to listen:
> > > http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is one more of Alex Jones videos:
> > >
> > >
> > > Order of Death
> > >
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/hy7t9
> > >
> > >
> > > ***********
> > >
> > >
> > > Check out this information on the cult killings in Burgundy, France (a
> > > medievil village full of ancient castles, including some owned the
> > > Rothschild family)
> > >
> > >
> > > This case began with the 1991 discovery of imprisoned and tortured
> > > slaves, led to the discovery of several buried bodies, and involved
> > > emerging evidence of a network that had killed possibly hundreds of
> > > people.
> > > It also featured a massive coverup, a deluge of destroyed evidence,
> > > compromised judges, an investigator murdered. Sound familiar?)
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/auxerre/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joanna
> > >
> > >
> > > On the morning of May 17, 1990, Patrice Bardot, an unemployed dustman,
> > > traveled from his home in the French village of Monteau to the nearby
> > > Yonne River for a day of fishing. Not long after he arrived he noticed
> > > something floating in the water. Initially, he believed it was a
> > > bobbing barrel, but as he drew nearer he was shocked to realize it was
> > > a nude human body.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bardot immediately flagged down a woman jogging on a nearby path and
> > > alerted her of the gruesome find. The jogger then ran toward a caf?,
> > > where the police were called. The authorities soon arrived and
> > > conducted what would later be considered a terribly bungled
> > > investigation.
> > >
> > >
> > > The police cornered off a small section of land close to where the body
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > was found and began searching for clues. However, investigators ignored
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > a large portion of the surrounding area, most of which had been
> > > trampled by police, emergency personnel, onlookers and vehicles.
> > > According to an Expatica.com article by Graham Tearse, the secured area
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > was "released to the public just several hours later" and the following
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > day it was further trampled by children on a field trip. Had there been
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > any evidence, it was likely lost from the contamination of the crime
> > > scene.
> > >
> > >
> > > The body was withdrawn from the river and taken to a nearby hospital
> > > for identification and autopsy. The woman was identified as 20-year-old
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joanna Parrish, who was from Gloucestershire, England. Joanna was
> > > enrolled in a modern languages work/study program at Leeds University
> > > and took a position as an assistant English teacher at a secondary
> > > school in the nearby town of Auxerre. She was working on a bachelor's
> > > degree in modern languages at Leeds University. At the time of her
> > > death she was only one week away from completing her posting.
> > >
> > >
> > > An autopsy revealed that Joanna had been drugged, tied up, raped,
> > > beaten and strangled before being dumped into the river. It was
> > > suspected that her body had been in the water only several hours prior
> > > to it being found. Even though the body was discarded in broad
> > > daylight, police were unable to find any witnesses. They believed that
> > > whoever murdered Joanna was probably familiar with the area and could
> > > have even resided in the immediate vicinity. Yet, police were unable to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > produce any suspects.
> > >
> > >
> > > According to Tearse, Joanna had a friend named Janet visiting from
> > > Canada around the time of her death. Janet claimed that Joanna placed
> > > an advertisement in a local newspaper offering English lessons. She
> > > planned to use the money to fund a holiday trip with her fianc?e.
> > >
> > >
> > > Investigators learned that a local man responded to Joanna's ad by
> > > phone and was interested in hiring her to teach his teenage son. They
> > > made arrangements to meet at 7 p.m. on May 16 at the town's square in
> > > Auxerre. Tearse suggested that on that day, Janet joined Joanna on her
> > > trip into town and they walked around for a while before they separated
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > at about 6:30 pm.
> > >
> > >
> > > Joanna went to meet the man at the town square. It was the last time
> > > Janet ever saw her again. Tearse said that Joanna never told Janet the
> > > name of the man she was planning to meet.
> > >
> > >
> > > Several weeks after her body was discovered, Joanna was buried in
> > > Gloucestershire. Her parents, Roger and Pauline, went to Auxerre and
> > > hired a lawyer to assist them in their gaining access to information
> > > concerning the case from the magistrate and the police detectives. They
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > wanted to closely follow the investigation, hoping that it would
> > > eventually lead to the apprehension of their daughter's murderer. Their
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > expectations were quickly shattered when they realized how inadequately
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the case was being handled.
> > >
> > >
> > > At the time, Roger and Pauline didn't know that their daughter's murder
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > was not an isolated case. In fact, there were many unsolved murders and
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > disappearances in the Burgundy region, most of which were grossly
> > > mismanaged, completely ignored and even discarded. Many suspected that
> > > high-level officials were trying to cover-up the fact that Burgundy had
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > an unusually high murder rate for such a tiny province. It was
> > > something that could not be hidden for long.
> > >
> > >
> > > Negligence
> > >
> > >
> > > The investigation into Joanna's death was bungled from the beginning.
> > > The crime scene was turned into a forensic disaster. Moreover, much of
> > > the information gathered during the investigation was kept from
> > > Joanna's family, who desperately tried to learn what advances were
> > > being made in the case.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tearse suggested that during a British inquest into Joanna's murder,
> > > critical evidence was discovered that was ignored or overlooked by
> > > French coroners. He claimed that a second autopsy, conducted by the
> > > British, revealed several bite marks on Joanna's body. From a forensic
> > > standpoint, bite marks are vital clues that can reveal information
> > > about the killer because teeth, bite and jaw formations are
> > > individually unique and can be easily matched. The revelation shocked
> > > Joanna's parents who couldn't comprehend how something so obvious and
> > > important could have gone unnoticed.
> > >
> > >
> > > During the autopsy, medical examiners were able to obtain sperm
> > > samples. It took two years for the samples to be analyzed, but the
> > > results led to a genetic print. The DNA evidence was one of the biggest
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > clues in the investigation and Roger and Pauline hoped that it would
> > > lead investigators to the killer. However, they were not so fortunate.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tearse said, "investigators refused to call for voluntary DNA tests of
> > > the local male population and continued to refuse to make a media
> > > appeal for witnesses." It was another blow to the investigation and a
> > > major disappointment for Roger and Pauline. Frustrated at the
> > > incompetence of police, Joanna's family decided to take measures into
> > > their own hands.
> > >
> > >
> > > They family offered a reward for information into Joanna's death and
> > > handed out leaflets in and around Auxerre and Mon?teau. They even
> > > appealed to the British government for assistance. Even though they
> > > were unsuccessful in getting help from the British government they did
> > > manage to get some interesting responses to their leaflets.
> > >
> > >
> > > Several people called offering some information directly concerning
> > > Joanna's death. Roger and Pauline eagerly presented the new leads to
> > > the French authorities. However, for some unknown reason the
> > > investigators failed to pursue the tips.
> > >
> > >
> > > Isabelle Laville, victim
> > > Isabelle Laville, victim
> > > The family members of other murdered victims in Burgundy responded to
> > > the leaflets. Roger and Pauline learned that three other young women,
> > > Isabelle Laville, 17, Danielle Bernard, 39, Sylvie Baton, 24, were
> > > murdered near or in Auxerre between 1987 and 1990. Their families were
> > > angered because they also felt as if the investigators were mishandling
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the cases of their deceased loved ones.
> > >
> > >
> > > Eventually, Roger and Pauline discovered that there were approximately
> > > 13 more unsolved murders and disappearances of women in the Auxerre
> > > area over the last 30 years. Interestingly, investigators working on
> > > Joanna's case never told them about the spate of murders, two of which
> > > occurred within months of their daughter's death.
> > >
> > >
> > > Roger and Pauline tried to obtain Joanna's case files so they could
> > > bring in outside help to assist in the investigation. However,
> > > investigators continued to deny them access to the documents. Even
> > > though it seemed as if they were battling a lost cause, they refused to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > give up in their search for evidence.
> > >
> > >
> > > Among the 17 girls missing or found murdered were seven pupils from the
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Medical-Educational Institute, a special needs school for handicapped
> > > young women in Auxerre. The girls, 16 to 22 years old, were accounted
> > > for in December 2000, when a former bus driver of the school made a
> > > startling confession. Emile Louis, 68, admitted to police that he had
> > > sex with the seven pupils and then murdered them sometime between 1977
> > > and 1979.
> > >
> > >
> > > When the girls first began to disappear, the police interviewed Louis
> > > because he was known to have a history of sex offenses. However, they
> > > did not pursue him for long and eventually he was disregarded as a
> > > potential suspect. Eventually, the cases were dropped and the girls
> > > were listed as runaways.
> > >
> > >
> > > Emile Louis, mugshot
> > > Emile Louis, mugshot
> > > Louis continued to drive female pupils to and from school. It is also
> > > believed that he continued to rape and kill them indiscriminately. He
> > > would not be looked at as a suspect for almost another two decades.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hugh Schofield's article Mystery of France's Missing Girls suggested
> > > that there were similarities between many of the cases. He quoted
> > > Corinne Herrmann, a French lawyer and author of the book The
> > > Disappeared of the Yonne, stating that the girls were either mentally
> > > handicapped, "or like Joanna far from home." Moreover, according to
> > > Stuart Jeffries 2000 article for The Observer, witnesses were able to
> > > place Louis near the spots where many of the victims were last seen.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scene where bodies found
> > > Scene where bodies found
> > > Louis was caught almost two decades later when his daughter found items
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > in his house belonging to several of the victims. During his
> > > confession, Louis told authorities that he buried the girls near the
> > > Yonne River. Only the skeletal remains of two girls were ever
> > > recovered.
> > >
> > >
> > > Not long after his admission of guilt, Louis changed his story. He
> > > claimed that he was pressured into giving false testimony and that he
> > > actually didn't commit the murders. In a January 2002 article in The
> > > Guardian by Jon Henley, Louis insisted that "the girls were routinely
> > > abused and finally abducted and killed by a nebulous ring of men 'of
> > > some standing, locally and in the region." Not surprisingly, Louis'
> > > story was met with skepticism by local investigators.
> > >
> > >
> > > Louis could not be charged with the murders anyway because under French
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > law it was considered unlawful to convict anyone of a murder 10 years
> > > after a crime was committed. According to Jeffries, Louis was instead
> > > "convicted for kidnapping, for which there is no statue of
> > > limitations." The authorities believed Louis could have been involved
> > > in some of the other murder cases, yet there was not enough evidence to
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > convict him.
> > >
> > >
> > > One thing was for certain: Louis could not have been directly
> > > responsible for Joanna's death. At the time of her murder, he was
> > > serving a prison sentence for sexually assaulting a minor.
> > > Nevertheless, Schofield suggested that a private investigation
> > > conducted for 13 years by French police agent Christian Jambert, 56,
> > > "clearly established that Louis was linked to all the women." It was
> > > believed that he was affiliated with a sex ring operation that
> > > prostituted, abused and even murdered many girls in the region,
> > > possibly including Joanna.
> > >
> > >
> > > Christian Jambert, victim
> > > Christian Jambert, victim
> > > Initially the authorities ignored Jambert's theories, but an incident
> > > in 1984 led them to reconsider the idea that there was indeed a sex
> > > ring in the area. That January, a 19-year-old girl was found wandering
> > > the streets of Auxerre in a confused state. When the police picked her
> > > up and questioned her she claimed that she was held captive in the
> > > basement of a nearby house, where she was sexually abused and tortured.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The girl's testimony led the police to the home of Claude and Monique
> > > Dunand, known friends of Emile Louis. Stuart said that when they
> > > searched the house, they found another girl in the cellar, "naked and
> > > suspended from a ladder by her wrists." He further claimed that for
> > > approximately 15 years, local handicapped girls were lured to the
> > > house, locked up, fed dog food and repeatedly raped and tortured by
> > > invited guests. However, there was no indication that any of the girls
> > > were murdered.
> > >
> > >
> > > Claude Dunand was eventually convicted of kidnapping and given a life
> > > sentence in 1991. His wife Monique received two years for accessory to
> > > the crimes. According to Andrew Alderson and Kim Willsher's article 'I
> > > Want Justice for Joanna,' Yonne crime reporter Ludovic Berger stated,
> > > "Claude Dunand has always said that politicians, industrialists and
> > > magistrates were involved but he has refused to name them." The article
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > further suggested that a list of at least 50 clients "rumored to
> > > include several French 'notables' who paid to torture and abuse"
> > > captive girls was discovered by police and handed over to the Auxerre
> > > Courthouse. However, the list mysteriously disappeared from a courtroom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and has never been found.
> > >
> > >
> > > It was not the only document that went missing. In fact, there were
> > > more than 100 murder and missing person case files from between 1958
> > > and 1982 that vanished from the courthouse. Moreover, the court ledger
> > > documenting the investigations also vanished. It became increasingly
> > > clear that someone was either trying to cover up the crimes or the
> > > Auxerre Courthouse had a serious management problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > Christian Jambert was almost certain he knew who was behind Burgundy's
> > > rash of murders and missing person cases, and he was convinced that
> > > Louis was one of the primary culprits. However, he also believed that
> > > Louis was only one of many involved in the crimes. Jambert kept
> > > meticulous notes and diaries concerning the cases, along with the
> > > evidence he collected over the years. In 1997, he made preparations to
> > > present his findings during a new inquiry. Yet, he never got the chance
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > to reveal what he worked so hard to acquire.
> > >
> > >
> > > In August of that year, just several days before the inquiries were
> > > scheduled to begin, Jambert was found dead in the basement of his
> > > Auxerre home. An autopsy revealed that he died from a single gunshot
> > > wound to the head. Medical investigators claimed that Jambert had a
> > > history of depression. It was believed that his poor mental state
> > > prompted him to end his life. His death was listed as a suicide.
> > >
> > >
> > > By the late 1990s, the mounting scandal in Auxerre gained international
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > attention. People were shocked by the negligence exhibited in the
> > > investigations and the fact that more than 100 files, mostly of missing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > women, had gone missing from Auxerre's Courthouse. According to Harry
> > > de Quetteville's January 2002 article in The Telegraph, the scandal was
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "taken so seriously in Paris that Marylise Lebranchu, the French
> > > justice minister, ordered a series of internal investigations."
> > > Joanna's murder case was one of those selected for re-examination and
> > > it was further linked with the inquiry into the seven girls Louis once
> > > claimed to have murdered.
> > >
> > >
> > > Not surprisingly, Joanna's parents welcomed the decision of a new
> > > inquiry. They waited more than a decade for her investigation to be
> > > reopened. BBC News Online stated that Roger, "was hopeful there would
> > > be progress in the investigation and the potential capture of the
> > > killer."
> > >
> > >
> > > Investigators working on the case quickly realized that there was a
> > > possibility someone tampered with Joanna's murder file. Witness
> > > statements, which were obtained at the time of her murder, were missing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > from her dossier. Moreover, important DNA evidence taken during the
> > > autopsy also disappeared from the file for more than a decade before it
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > was found again.
> > >
> > >
> > > During the investigation, it was suggested that Joanne and many of the
> > > other girls that were murdered or missing were likely the victims of an
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > organized sex gang operating around Auxerre. Yet, because so many of
> > > the facts were missing, there was not enough evidence available to
> > > convict anyone.
> > >
> > >
> > > The only exception was the case of the seven missing girls Louis
> > > initially claimed to have murdered before retracting his confession.
> > > Investigators continued to believe he was involved in their
> > > disappearances and murders. A re-examination of his case was ordered,
> > > with the hope of uncovering more evidence linking Louis or anyone else
> > > to the girls.
> > >
> > >
> > > Seven missing girls, victims
> > >
> > >
> > > Many in the community believed that the murder cases were deliberately
> > > ignored and the files stolen or destroyed because they implicated
> > > high-level officials. Investigators re-examining the cases determined
> > > that it was more likely that gross negligence on behalf of local
> > > magistrates was to blame for the mishandling of the cases. In all
> > > likelihood, it was probably a combination of both theories that
> > > prevented anyone from being apprehended for the crimes.
> > >
> > >
> > > In March 2002, four magistrates from Burgundy faced accusations of
> > > gross negligence in the cases of missing and murdered women in their
> > > region. The judges included former chief prosecutors Rene Meyer and
> > > Jacques Cazals and former deputy prosecutors Daniel Stilinovic and
> > > Bertrand Daillie. The men were ordered to appear before a panel of six
> > > senior judges, who would review the cases over a three-day period.
> > >
> > >
> > > According to a 2002 article by Susan Bell in The Scotsman, accused
> > > magistrate Stilinovic admitted that "there were people who allowed
> > > information to be stifled." He was further quoted saying "magistrates
> > > tampered with procedures on behalf of people they wanted to protect. It
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > is a conspiracy at the very top." However, he maintained his innocence,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > suggesting that he did not stifle any of the investigations. His peers
> > > thought otherwise.
> > >
> > >
> > > The panel returned a verdict in late March and found Stilinovic guilty
> > > of negligence. He received the severest penalty and was dismissed from
> > > his position. Cazals was also found guilty and transferred from his
> > > prestigious post in Paris. Meyer, who was retired at the time of the
> > > inquiry, was stripped of his honorary title after he too was found
> > > guilty. Daillie received no punishment.
> > >
> > >
> > > New Evidence
> > >
> > >
> > > In August 2002, investigators found new clues during their inquiry into
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joanna's murder. They revealed that recently recovered DNA evidence
> > > pointed to two men being involved in the rape and murder of Joanna. The
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > BBC News further stated in their article "Fresh Clues in Joanna Murder
> > > Hunt" that new documents were found which indicated that police
> > > arrested a suspect in connection with Joanna's murder early in the
> > > investigation. Yet, he was released because of lack of evidence.
> > >
> > >
> > > Investigators are continuing to follow up on the new leads, hoping that
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > it might result in the arrest of her killers. However, a great deal of
> > > time has passed since her death and the chances of solving the crime
> > > have significantly decreased over the years. Regardless, Joanna's
> > > family and law enforcement officials re-examining the case have not
> > > given up hope.
> > >
> > >
> > > In April 2004, more new evidence arose concerning the suicide of
> > > Jambert. According to Alderson and Willsher's article, Corinne Herrmann
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > received access to Jambert's files while she was conducting research
> > > into the case of the Burgundy's missing and murdered girls. She became
> > > suspicious of his death and believed he might have been murdered. She
> > > just had to prove her theory.
> > >
> > >
> > > Herrmann, author of Les Disparues D'Auxerre, convinced Jambert's
> > > children to exhume their father's body so that another autopsy could be
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > conducted. After several days of examining the remains, the medical
> > > investigators made a startling discovery. Alderson and Willsher claimed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > that Jambert had been shot not once, but twice in the head making it
> > > almost impossible for him to have committed suicide.
> > >
> > >
> > > Herrmann's suspicions were proven correct and she persuaded area
> > > magistrates to begin a murder inquiry. It was believed that his murder
> > > was directly linked with the investigation on which he was working.
> > > Even though investigators interviewed several possible suspects, no one
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > has yet been convicted for the crime.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jambert's case, like Joanna's, is being pursued with more vigor than
> > > ever before. Moreover, investigators continue to review the Louis case.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > They are hoping to put an end to the disappearances and murders that
> > > have plagued Burgundy for so many years. Moreover, they hope to restore
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > the reputation of the beautiful, medieval town that has attracted
> > > visitors from around the world for centuries.
> > >
> > >
> > > Emile Louis Trial
> > >
> > >
> > > On November 2, 2004, Emile Louis' murder trial finally began in
> > > Auxerre, France despite repeated attempts to throw out the case.
> > > According to a November 3, 2004 AP Worldstream article, Louis' lawyers
> > > requested that the case be delayed until after the European Court of
> > > Human Rights ruled "on their bid to dismiss the case" because they
> > > believed "the crimes took place too long ago for the case to be legally
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > valid." However, the court rejected the defense request and ordered the
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > resumption of Louis' trial.
> > >
> > >
> > > The 70-year-old retired bus driver, convicted of the murders of seven
> > > mentally handicapped women, continued to deny he was responsible for
> > > the murders even though he confessed to them years earlier. It is hoped
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > that the trial will finally reveal the truth as to how the girls died.
> > > The trial is expected to last four weeks. If convicted, Louis could
> > > face life imprisonment.
> > >
> > >
> > > The case is considered one of France's most controversial scandals
> > > because the investigation was bungled and many of the case files
> > > dealing with the girls' disappearances, as well as other cases of
> > > murdered and missing women went missing from the Auxerre Courthouse. It
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > is believed that the files were destroyed in order to cover up a
> > > high-level sex ring, which allegedly involved some prominent French
> > > officials.
> > >
> > >
> > > Auxerre Courthouse
> > >
> > >
> > > AP Worldstream reported that, "more than 90 witnesses including
> > > magistrates, social workers, police officers and family members of the
> > > victims are to testify at the trial." Many other family members of the
> > > victims are expected to fill the courthouse, in the hopes of seeing
> > > Louis brought to justice after escaping prosecution for the murders for
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > approximately twenty-five years. The father of British student Joanna
> > > Parrish, who was murdered in Auxerre in 1990, is also expected to be in
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > attendance.
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the onset of the trial there has been an upsurge of media and
> > > public interest, which has led to security concerns. Moreover, there is
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > concern for Louis' personal safety and the authorities want to prevent
> > > the possibility of someone taking justice into their own hands. In
> > > response, safety measures were taken to secure the perimeter around the
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > courthouse, Mie Kohiyama reported for Agence France-Presse. There is no
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > doubt that Louis is considered by many to be one of France's most
> > > reviled citizens.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rachael Bell
> > >
> > >
> > > Rachael Bell has completed master's degrees in clinical and health
> > > psychology and is currently working on her PhD in the field of
> > > psychology. On a part-time basis, she instructs bachelor and master's
> > > level courses in psychology. She lives in Europe with her husband and
> > > two children.
Re: Cannibal Hells Angels cult?
Author: The Sanity Inspector
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:10
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:10
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gornk wrote: > the Hells Angels are an extension of the CIA, the original Hells Angels > were WWII and Korean War/Vietnam veterans, > a lot of them heroine and cocaine-addicted backwoods Special Forces > operatives/ Air America pilots > who lived a decade in the jungles addicted to heroin, trading guns and > narcotics, looking like stoners with long hair, > killing people and torturing people as necessary to stay alive. [...] And if you treat 'em nice, they'll buy you a beer: http://bargerbrewing.com/ -- bruce The dignified don't even enter in the game. -- The Jam
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