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>fereira@isis.com (John Fereira) wrote:

>In article <4nv4l6$b86@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> yng@firefly.prairienet.org (Y Ng) writes:
>>
>>Jennifer R Lind (betzl@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>
>>
>>: I will admit however that the last guy I dated did own a home and he
>>: was the most irresponsible guy I ever met.  He didn't take care of his
>>: house, his yard or pay any of his bills on time.
>>
>>: >
>>: >>
>>: >>I've been involved with men who hadn't left home yet and I won't get
>>: >>involved with them because they don't know how to be responsible.  
>>: >
>>: >You base his responsibility upon his living at home (and saving,
>>: >what, $400 - $900 dollars a month) ???
>>
>>: As I just said above, owning a house doesn't mean someone is
>>: responsible, so yes I am changing my view here.  There is more to
>>: responsibilty than saving money though.  The proble with the men I went
>>: out with is that since they never lived on there own they didn't know
>>: how to take care of themselves.  Mother did laundry, bought food,
>>: cooked, etc.  When I get married I'm not going to work full time and
>>: take care of the house.  I already played that game with one guy I
>>: lived with and I'm not doing it again.   

You're absolute correct here.  Owning any thing, home, business, Prosche,
Ferrari doesn't mean responsibility.  It only means the guy know how
to make the $$$$$$$$!
>>: > 
>>
>>: >>Jen
>>
>>	could you list the things that a man suppose to do to be
>>	considered as a responsible man? or maybe list the things
>>	that a woman should do as a wife?
>>
>>	one question for your men out there, how many times that your
>>	partner initiate sex? and how many times you have to beg for 
>>	it? the successful rate, or the unsuccessful rate, please.
> 
>And while you're at it could you describe in detail the actual act
>so that we can make an informed determination as to whether it's better
>when the man initiates or the woman.  

No need to go into detail, unless all involving parties wanted to.
Some netters might object and cry foul here. (I don't care. I can talk
about anything. )

It's perfectly okay that either the male or the female to initiate sex.
I believe either side should try to initiate sex if / when he/she feels
the needs to have it. And the other side should try to accommodate
whenever it is possible. 

I believe some do, but please don't use sex as a weapon to get 
what you want; or you'll be degrading yourself to street walkers' level!


Alex Lam.
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>John Fereira
>fereira@isis.com
>Isis Distributed Systems - Ithaca, NY


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