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takworld <takworld@sirius.com> wrote:
>Ken McKinney wrote:
>> 
>> (Katy qualifies her previous statements re: cars, houses, and datability)
>> 
>> OK Katy,
>> 
>> I'm sorry that I overreacted to your earlier post -- I agree that
>> different
>> people "plateau" at different levels of maturity, and understand why
>> you want to date someone with a maturity level comparable to your own.
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity, what factors do you associate with maturity in
>> men?
>> I mean, I have my own ideas, but it would be interesting to hear yours.
>> 
>> Ken
>
>It's getting so hard to figure out just where your reply should be 
>dropped in, so, just jump in and worry about the pirranah later.  We all 
>have these triggers that make certain people stand out in a crowd to us. 
> And they are all individual tastes.  When asked, "what is the first 
>thing you notice about a person?" or "what initially (before you 
>even talk to him/her) attracts you to a person?" we all usually have a 
>few things that are completely superficial -- hair color, size/shape, 
>the sound of a laugh, the motion, etc.  I once followed a guy off my 
>commuter train (not even my stop and I was already late) just because of 
>his cologne, and he was completely not someone I really wanted to even 
>meet, he just smelled so good.  So, what Katy (I think she is the one 
>who mentioned BMW's) said about what might attract a woman's attention 
>was just mentioning some of the myriad of stuff women might "upon first 
>impression" (which we all know is not always the truest) judge a man.  
>Of course, when he turns out to be a jerk, his cars and houses and stuff 
>mean nothing.  Personally, since I don't drive (so the rest of you can 
>continue to live) anyone with any kind of car that runs is just fine 
>with me.  I know enough people with really raggedy cars (the seats are 
>almost no better than just the bear steel frames, there is no longer any 
>upholstery on the ceiling, you can sometimes ses the road whizzing by 
>under your feet as you sit there, windows don't work...) that get me 
>around to see things just fine and that's all that matters.  Well, good 
>conversation while traveling is always good too.  And heat on a cold 
>day, good brakes, good steering (ok, there's a lot of things that count 
>but you know what I mean).  Houses?  I own my own place so I know what 
>trouble it is and I know enough folks who prefer to rent and avoid all 
>this money drain business, they put their money someplace else and I 
>sometimes envy them (because, now that I own this thing, I kind of have 
>to continue to own something similar or else pay a heavy tax bill and my 
>goal in life is to try to keep as much money out of government hands as 
>possible since they don't utilize money well at all).  I have a good 
>male friend who owns his house, owns a nice yuppie car, has a 
>professional (in the tradition sense) job, and is basically society's 
>idea of ideal, but he can't find a mate (probably because he's looking 
>for someone who can't ever be).  Everything he has looks like no one 
>lives there but is a lovely picture out of GQ or something -- no 
>fingerprints on anything, no shoes tossed under a chair, no "what am I 
>suppose to do with this?" mail stacked on a table, no dishes in the sink 
>(no food in the frig).  I almost feel like I shouldn't track my 
>invisible footprints through his house when I visit -- but I do, just 
>out of a sort of duty to mess things up (chaos is good).  He's a nice, 
>nice, nice guy (really, I have had far too many experiences with rats 
>and snakes and evil and know the difference).  Just is always going to 
>have trouble accepting the filth and untidiness of real life.  So, what 
>Katy said cannot be interpreted as "the definitive" anything and I'm 
>real sure Katy didn't mean it as the onliest criteria, or even the most 
>important -- for simplicity, she just put out there *one* set of 
>judgment values that sometimes affect how we pick our people.  And you 
>know we all have our own, so don't get on her case without first 
>examining your own.  Cha-cha-cha.
>
>
You have a lot of good things to say, but try to break them up into 
paragraphs so they are easier to read.