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kiwicove@cybercom.net (Jim Davis) sayeth thus:


>  And yet why do people still do them?  Drugs, including alcohol and 
>Tobacco spew just as much propaganda as the 'clean body' set.  
>Totalitarianism is caused when the option of counter propaganda is lost.  
>In this country everybody throws their stories out and what the public 
>likes sticks.
>  Do you really think a product like Tobacco could make it WITHOUT 
>propaganda?  Or a product like Heroin?  Yes the product has a built in 
>addiction that all but garantees return customers, but the first time the 
>consumer must be convinced to use it.

One could hardly say that heroin is being *marketed* in the sense that
it is being introduced and proffered with a campaign of *propaganda*
could one?  In a very real sense there is an enormous effort to
*market* the non-use of such things.

Clearly there must be some intrinsic properties of the product itself
in order for people to become willing to override or disregard the
marketing campaign against such substances.  

So to answer your question, YES indeed, these products are making it
in spite of propaganda.


>  Both these statements are fairly meaningless in a culture where more 
>people can sing the "Big Mac Song" than can identify their State Reps.

What does one have to do with the other?   It is reasonably to say
that we have a built in facility to remember musical patterns
(particularly catchy little ditties that are difficult to purge once
*caught*) along with their associative context better than mundane
facts.  Can you tell me who your last State Rep was?  10 years ago?
Clearly, unless you have had  specific contact with the same it is
quite natural to *not remember* such things.

>  Adverstising.  Marketing.  That's where the real power in America 
>lies. 

Find out who controls what gets *advertised* and you'll be a little
closer to the "real power in (not just) America."

> I'm not making any moral or ethical judgments on that, it's just 
>the truth.

And water is wet.

>  Laws mean very little in the face of superior marketing- look at the 
>projected revenues of illegal drugs in this country for and then look at 
>the projected budgets of the agencies set to deal with them.

try to tell that to the judge.

>: I remain a free mind

>  And I'm sure that you can recite the "Big Mac Song" from heart.  Now 
>who are those State Reps?  (Not a flame, but ask 10 people the same two 
>questions.)

Still don't understand what your trying to say,  is it that you
possess this profound insight that separates you from the *herd* and
makes you "special?"

>: There are two sides to everything.

>  But one always has to come out on top.  Pity, isn't it?

Witty it isn't.

>  Catch you later,

>  Jim Davis,  Webmaster Depressed Press / Virtually Boston
>      http://www.cybercom.net/~kiwicove/


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