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Re: Very large memories (paging files)

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From: William Bogstad
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1986 18:46
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In article <2383@peora.UUCP> joel@peora.UUCP (Joel Upchurch) writes:
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>	Another consideration, is that on at least some virtual
>	memory systems I've worked with, the the system transfers
>	the program over to some sort of paging file, before it
>	starts, which means that you end up reading the whole
>	program in anyway, and writing it out to boot. Does anyone
>	know of a virtual memory system that doesn't work this
>	way?

	Yes, it is my understanding that the Ridge 32 systems running
ROS page directly from the executable file.  The block size on disk is
4096 bytes and there is a way (although somewhat painful) to make files
contiguous which avoids some of the obvious problems with disk access
times.  ROS looks like System V unix from the system call level, but
internally is a message passing system consisting of multiple processes.
All disk i/o goes through the virtual memory manager.  When reading and
writing a file you are in fact passing messages to a simple process
whose data space is the contents of the file.  Overall, this method
doesn't work too badly.

				Bill Bogstad
				bogstad@hopkins-eecs-bravo.arpa
				bogstad@brl-smoke.arpa

Disclaimer:	I do not work for Ridge and have never done so.
    I am, however, the moderator for the ARPANET INFO-RIDGE mailing list.
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From: bogstad@brl-smoke.ARPA (William Bogstad )
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Subject: Re: Very large memories (paging files)
Message-ID: <3778@brl-smoke.ARPA>
Date: Sat, 13-Sep-86 14:46:05 EDT
Article-I.D.: brl-smok.3778
Posted: Sat Sep 13 14:46:05 1986
Date-Received: Sun, 14-Sep-86 07:35:01 EDT
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Reply-To: bogstad@brl.arpa (William Bogstad (JHU|mike) <bogstad>)
Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD.
Lines: 27
Keywords: paging, Ridge, ROS
Summary: Some systems don't use them