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> From: philipp@mit-trillian.UUCP
> .....
>
> (3)	Is there enough interest on the net to start a group
>	specifically about CCITT/ISO standards and their
>	implementations?  (Hallo Europe?  Canada?)
>
> .....

A YES to a group, dedicated to discussions on International
Standardisation.

I will support such a group with great enthusiasm - but isn't this
covered by the net.internat already?

I have tried to cross post this message to net.news.group, as I believe
it must be the proper group for this discussion.

Regards
	Soren Rabbe
	AmbraSoft A/S
	Denmark - Europe!

[The original article to which I'm replying came from net.lan.  I'm
reposting the questions that article asked.]

Philip Prindeville writes:
> I haven't heard much about CCITT protocols getting much acceptance
> in UNIX circles lately, with the exception of the EAN message
> system from the University of British Columbia C.S. Department.
> It has been installed at several sites, and is available for a
> reasonable fee.
> (1)	Does anyone in net-land know of an implementation of
> 	CCITT protocols (X.25 for [say] a DMF-32 as a network
> 	interface, or X.224/X.225 network/transport socket code,
> 	or an X.410 (et. al.) mailer)?
X.25 has been implemented on various machines under Unix, Xenix, etc.
Some companies offering such that come to mind are TITN, Systech,
MorningStar, Gateway/Source, The Software Group, and XDot.  I'm sure
there are others, but these are the ones I've found have more than
vaporware.  

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I don't know if anyone has X.224/X.225 available commercially.  We 
will be building it into our Electronic Image Transmission products; 
currently we use T.70/T.62 which are also CCITT protocols (and are 
subsets of the full X.224/5) geared towards document/teletext/facsimile 
usage.  We run X.410 and X.411 P1 on top of all that.  I don't think
there are any plans to sell just the comm software, but the whole
product complete...
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I know that AT&T Bell Labs folks are interested in this and there has
been much discussion in the net.mail* newsgroups about uucp, RFC, X.400
and ARPA domains and how in the hell they all fit together.  Comments?

> (2)	If yes, how is it and are sources available?

??? Anyone with any such products want to say?

> (3)	Is there enough interest on the net to start a group
> 	specifically about CCITT/ISO standards and their
> 	implementations?  (Hallo Europe?  Canada?)
I would like to start a group for that, but isn't net.dcom the right
place for that?  (And of course net.news.group for the proposal.)

> I had heard that the Swedish PTT (Post, Telegraph & Telephone) had
> implemented it, but I thought that was heresay.
The German PTT (Deutches Bundespost) has an X.400 system operating
today, tho I don't know any more than that.  KDD (Japan) has
interconnected with Univ of British Columbia in their X.400 mail system.
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We have been users of EAN for more than one year. You might know that in 
Europe a Message Handling net has been built based on OSI protocols 
(the implementation used is EAN).

EAN consists of

	7	P2
		P1
		RTS
	6	empty
	5	X.225 BAS
	4	X.224 Class 0
	3	several networks (PSTN, X.25 (using a simple driver), INET
		DECnet)

EAN is available for VAX/VMS, UNIX 4.2bsd, UNIX System V, soon VM/CMS
(list is incomplete)

As for other OSI Implementations:

RETIX, Santa Monica, CA (213) 829-4922 offers MAP (=selection of OSI protocols),
FTAM, X.400 MHS software, written in C, claimed to be portable. They
sell source licenses.


Bernhard Plattner
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