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In article <195@aluxp.UUCP> szmanda@aluxp.UUCP (szmanda) writes:
>I am  posting an MS-Basic nibble copier to net.sources.  It seems to be able
>to circumvent the copy protection on all of the disks I  have tried to  copy.
>
>This program, written by Dennis Brothers, is being posted because of therecent
>interest in backing up protected software.  It is intended **only** for use
>by persons who wish to exercise their legal right to produce archival copies
>of software that they have purchased.  It is **not* intended that this program
>be used for unlawful purposes.
>                                                Chuck Szmanda

As someone who makes their living off copy protected Mac software, I'm offended
by your claim that this is "**not** intended that this program be used for
unlawful purposes".

Let's call a spade a spade. This program WILL be used to duplicate copy 
protected software, not always for backup purposes. Software WILL be
ripped off by this program.

I just had to set that straight.
-- 

J Bradford Parker
uucp: seismo!harvard!gcc-opus!brad
otherwise: what else is there ?

"Say something once, Why say it again ?"
	- David Burne

> 
> As someone who makes their living off copy protected Mac software, I'm offended
> by your claim that this is "**not** intended that this program be used for
> unlawful purposes".
> 
> Let's call a spade a spade. This program WILL be used to duplicate copy 
> protected software, not always for backup purposes. Software WILL be
> ripped off by this program.
> 
> I just had to set that straight.
> -- 
> 
> J Bradford Parker
> uucp: seismo!harvard!gcc-opus!brad
> otherwise: what else is there ?
> 
> "Say something once, Why say it again ?"
> 	- David Burne

As someone who has wasted a large amount of time (an invaluable
commodity to some of us) replacing protected software, I find the
cavalier attitude of Mr. Parker contemptable. As a "toolmaker" I know
that I cannot control the purpose to which my tools are put, and am
realistic enough to know that I cannot dictate morality to those who use
the information I impart to them. I have one sure solution to the
problem of having your ideas "ripped off". Don't have any. Judging by
your most recent example, we will not be missing out on much. 

Jeff E Mandel MD
SDCC6!IR408
UCSD Anesthesia Research

P.S. - The person who wrote the song "Psycho Killer" spells his name
David BYRNE. 

> As someone who makes their living off copy protected Mac software, I'm offended
> by your claim that this is "**not** intended that this program be used for
> unlawful purposes".
> 
> Let's call a spade a spade.

OK...Anyone who makes his living off copy protected software
is making a living by ripping off his customers.

Not all (perhaps not even most) software pirates are consumers.


-- 

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In article <314159@foo.UUCP> bar@hack.UUCP (nUxi) writes:
>I am posting a fast Unix dump program to net.sources.  It seems to be able
>to circumvent the permission bits on all of the disks I have tried to copy.
>
>This program, written by a friend, is being posted because of the recent
>interest in backing up protected software.  It is intended **only** for use
>by persons who wish to exercise their legal right to produce archival copies
>of software that they have purchased.  It is **not* intended that this program
>be used for unlawful purposes.
>                                                nUxi-matic

As someone who makes their living off trade secret protected Unix
software, I'm offended by your claim that this is "**not** intended
that this program be used for unlawful purposes".

Let's call a spade a spade. This program WILL be used to duplicate
trade secret protected software, not always for backup purposes.
Software WILL be ripped off by this program.

I just had to set that straight.

J C Gnu									  X-}

In article <1858@sdcc6.UUCP> ir408@sdcc6.UUCP (ir408) writes:
>As someone who has wasted a large amount of time (an invaluable
>commodity to some of us) replacing protected software, I find the
>cavalier attitude of Mr. Parker contemptable. As a "toolmaker" I know
>that I cannot control the purpose to which my tools are put, and am
>realistic enough to know that I cannot dictate morality to those who use
>the information I impart to them. I have one sure solution to the
>problem of having your ideas "ripped off". Don't have any. Judging by
>your most recent example, we will not be missing out on much. 
>
>Jeff E Mandel MD
>SDCC6!IR408
>UCSD Anesthesia Research
>

In reply, I hardly think I'm trying to dictate morality. I simply think
that posting such a program to a public net might not be responcible.
As to my ideas, you don't know me, so I doubt you could give an accurate
synopsis. Thanks for the kind words.

ps: you're right, it's Byrne. Sorry David.
-- 

J Bradford Parker
uucp: seismo!harvard!gcc-opus!brad
otherwise: what else is there ?

"Say something once, Why say it again ?"
	- David Byrne

In article <1941@sun.uucp> gnu@sun.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
>In article <314159@foo.UUCP> bar@hack.UUCP (nUxi) writes:
>>I am posting a fast Unix dump program to net.sources.  It seems to be able
>>to circumvent the permission bits on all of the disks I have tried to copy.
>>
>>This program, written by a friend, is being posted because of the recent
>>interest in backing up protected software.  It is intended **only** for use
>>by persons who wish to exercise their legal right to produce archival copies
>>of software that they have purchased.  It is **not* intended that this program
>>be used for unlawful purposes.
>>                                                nUxi-matic
>
>As someone who makes their living off trade secret protected Unix
>software, I'm offended by your claim that this is "**not** intended
>that this program be used for unlawful purposes".
>
>Let's call a spade a spade. This program WILL be used to duplicate
>trade secret protected software, not always for backup purposes.
>Software WILL be ripped off by this program.
>
>I just had to set that straight.
>
>J C Gnu							  X-}

Reading this over, I can't believe I sound that way. :-)
-- 

J Bradford Parker
uucp: seismo!harvard!gcc-opus!brad
otherwise: what else is there ?

"Say something once, Why say it again ?"
	- David Byrne

> In article <1941@sun.uucp> gnu@sun.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
> >In article <314159@foo.UUCP> bar@hack.UUCP (nUxi) writes:
> >>I am posting a fast Unix dump program to net.sources.  It seems to be able
> >>to circumvent the permission bits on all of the disks I have tried to copy.
> >>
> >>This program, written by a friend, is being posted because of the recent
> >>interest in backing up protected software.  It is intended **only** for use
> >>by persons who wish to exercise their legal right to produce archival copies
> >>of software that they have purchased.  It is **not* intended that this program
> >>be used for unlawful purposes.
> >>                                                nUxi-matic
> >
> >As someone who makes their living off trade secret protected Unix
> >software, I'm offended by your claim that this is "**not** intended
> >that this program be used for unlawful purposes".
> >
> >Let's call a spade a spade. This program WILL be used to duplicate
> >trade secret protected software, not always for backup purposes.
> >Software WILL be ripped off by this program.
> >
> >I just had to set that straight.
> >
> >J C Gnu							  X-}
> 
> Reading this over, I can't believe I sound that way. :-)
> -- 
> 
> J Bradford Parker
> uucp: seismo!harvard!gcc-opus!brad
> otherwise: what else is there ?
> 
> "Say something once, Why say it again ?"
> 	- David Byrne
As the guy who started this exchange, I can't either.
                                         Peace,

                                         Chuck Szmanda
                                         aluxp!szmanda