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> If you have a local newsgroup called "general", you will sometimes find
> articles from other sites in that newsgroup.

This is the "newsgroup splicing" problem, which I've been thinking
about, but do not have a working solution yet.

Either: 1. all newsgroup names must be globally unique;
    or: 2a. sites can carry "different" groups with the same name.

A related proposition:
        2b. sites can carry the "same" group under different names.

Both 2b and 2a are necessary to support transparent newsgroup
renaming.  Implementing this requires somewhat different news
protocols.
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In article <1992Nov4.071034.5756@samba.oit.unc.edu> Nigel.Allen@launchpad.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:
>This way, both your users and the rest of the net will benefit. They won't
>wonder about (or reply or follow up to) posts from other sites in "general",
>and if they should cross-post an article to your local <site name>.general
>and a more widely-distributed one, it won't show up in "general" at othe
>sites.
>

Of course, this doesn't always work since you sometime get duplicated
<site name>.general postings.  Specifically I know that uw.general
exists at both University of Waterloo (Waterloo Ontario) and 
University of Washington (in Seattle WA), and that often messages
ended up in both.  (Those this might have been secondarily caused
by uw.general (Waterloo) being carried at Microsoft because of
all the Waterloo co-op students and grads.)

I have also seen this duplication in one or two other cases, but
I can't remember the names right now.

-David Gibbs
(dagibbs@quantum.qnx.com)

Nigel.Allen@launchpad.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:

>If you have a local newsgroup called "general", you will sometimes find
>articles from other sites in that newsgroup. These articles will normally
>have been cross-posted to general (by which the original poster meant
>their *own* general newsgroup) and to a more widely-distributed group.
>These other-site posts to general can confuse your users. (In fact, if you
>check general on your own site, you may find some fairly shrill arguments
>about the U.S. presidential election that were cross-posted to soc.singles
>and general.)

I think the general news group is one that c-news or nn create
automatically which explains why so many sites end up with it.  Also,
choosing a name like cs.general is also a bad idea because it confused me
for quite some time how the only things that ever appeared in our own
cs.general newsgroup were from exotic locations outside the department and
also parts of threads that were not in the group either.  I eventaully
cottoned on to what was happening when one of the aforementioned articles
was someone testing his theory of cross-posting :-)

Craig
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Hello,
Is there a admin or USENET cop who can stop certain people from
continuously advertising on the net dispite numerous warnings from
many people on the net.  This guy from ICPA has posted an ad at LEAST
3 times on one newsgroup and cross posted to many others.

How can we stop this unethical violation of the network????


Here is his post or part of it as I don't want them to get
further adverts from my post :

=================================================================


Article 8604 (19 more) in soc.culture.australian:
From: icpa@iat.holonet.net (Tony Rodriguez)

Subject: International Software Jobs
Message-ID: <Bxo8p1.2D5@iat.holonet.net>
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:24:37 GMT
Lines: 28

	The International Computer Professional Association is a member 
supported organization for experienced software professionals who want to
work overseas. By using our network of over 750 technical recruitment firms 
(stuff deleted)


Sincerely 

Tony Rodriguez

Director ICPA


International Computer Professional Association
2261 Market Street, Suite 309
San Francisco, CA 94114
USA

Tel: (415) 695 - 7618
Fax: (415) 252 - 5769

email icpa@holonet.net

In article <lgitbkINNhm2@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, reno@darlo.Eng.Sun.COM (Reno Marioni) writes:
|> 
|> Hello,
|> Is there a admin or USENET cop who can stop certain people from
|> continuously advertising on the net dispite numerous warnings from
|> many people on the net.  This guy from ICPA has posted an ad at LEAST
|> 3 times on one newsgroup and cross posted to many others.
|> 
|> How can we stop this unethical violation of the network????
|> 
|> 
|> 

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