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Started by Stimpson J. Katz
Sat, 07 Nov 1992 07:30
Child Pornography (A proposed solution)
Author: Stimpson J. Katz
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 07:30
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 07:30
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I have a modest suggestion for dealing with the child pornography
problem. I hope it is implemented (or something similar) before some
university or BBS get prosecuted for distribution of child pornography.
I suggest that administrators and system operators who find child
pornography appearing on their systems cancel the offending messages
immediately. I know people are going to scream censorship, but the
alternative is for systems to stop carrying the newsgroups that
encourage (directly or indirectly) the posting of child pornograhy.
I know there will be complaints about who judges what is and is
not child pornography, but those posting must remember that these
messages get forwarded to many countries and some of them may have
very restrictive laws. The best defense is a good offense.
You certainly have the right to post what you wish, but if you
break the law, expect action. I hope system operators begin issuing
warnings and then placing restrictions, if necessary. Let's show
the world that we are capable of policing ourselves, and then no
policing from the outside will be necessary.
SJK
The Siphon (SIPHON@momad.uucp)
"I swear, by my life and my love of it, never to live for the
sake of another man, nor to ask another man to live for mine."
Guidelines discussion: RFD
Author: Richard M. Hartman
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 19:10
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 19:10
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The (rather large and vociferous) discusison about the rec.music.synth thing has spawned one legitimate question that I can tell (and, no, I don't think it should invalidated the outcome of a vote taken under the guidelines as they stood at the time. ex post facto and all that...) Is a msg w/ the subject line "RFD: ...." a sufficiently clear means of notifying a group about a change that may affect them? The initials RFD, CFV etc are clear to the news admins in new.groups who have read the guidelines and are watching for such things. But using INITIALS to try and get the point across to a bunch of musicians that got on the net to talk about synthesizers may not be clear. Should the messages that are posted to the affected groups have more detailed, unobfuscated "Subject:" lines? e.g. (1/2 :) ) : > Subject: Your news group may be renamed!!! Speak up NOW! -Richard Hartman hartman@ulogic.COM =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
Re: Guidelines discussion: RFD
Author: Bob Snyder
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 04:13
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 04:13
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>>>>> In article <567@ulogic.UUCP>, hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. >>>>> Hartman) writes: Richard> Is a msg w/ the subject line "RFD: ...." a sufficiently clear Richard> means of notifying a group about a change that may affect Richard> them? The initials RFD, CFV etc are clear to the news admins Richard> in new.groups who have read the guidelines and are watching Richard> for such things. But using INITIALS to try and get the point Richard> across to a bunch of musicians that got on the net to talk Richard> about synthesizers may not be clear. Much better than "Request for Discussion: rec.m". Some newsreaders truncate Subject lines. and generally a subject line "RFD: comp.sillyness reorg" should provoke enough interest to be read. Richard> Should the messages that are posted to the affected groups have Richard> more detailed, unobfuscated "Subject:" lines? e.g. (1/2 :) ) : > Subject: Your news group may be renamed!!! Speak up NOW! So when I go to read news.announce.newgroups, I see how many of these headers? :-) Bob
Re: Child Pornography (A proposed solution)
Author: Alan Hargreaves
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 03:39
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 03:39
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siphon@momad.UUCP (Stimpson J. Katz) writes: > I have a modest suggestion for dealing with the child pornography >problem. I hope it is implemented (or something similar) before some >university or BBS get prosecuted for distribution of child pornography. > I suggest that administrators and system operators who find child >pornography appearing on their systems cancel the offending messages >immediately. I know people are going to scream censorship, but the >alternative is for systems to stop carrying the newsgroups that >encourage (directly or indirectly) the posting of child pornograhy. hmmm do you have any concept of just how much news flows into a site in a day? I can't speak for other sys admins, but I have much better things to do with my time than scan all the news for artciles that I have to cancel. alan. -- Alan Hargreaves (VK2KVF) alan@frey.newcastle.edu.au, Uni of Newcastle, UCS. Ph: +61 49 215 512 Fax: +61 49 684 742 ICBM: 32 53 44.6 S / 151 41 52.6 E Software Bloat - Any UNIX(tm) after Version 7. (Sm@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au)
Re: Guidelines discussion: RFD
Author: Richard M. Hartman
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:56
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:56
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In article <TRSNYDER.92Nov7231333@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu> trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes: >>>>>> In article <567@ulogic.UUCP>, hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. >>>>>> Hartman) writes: > >Much better than "Request for Discussion: rec.m". Some newsreaders truncate >Subject lines. and generally a subject line "RFD: comp.sillyness reorg" should >provoke enough interest to be read. > >Richard> Should the messages that are posted to the affected groups have >Richard> more detailed, unobfuscated "Subject:" lines? e.g. (1/2 :) ) : > > > Subject: Your news group may be renamed!!! Speak up NOW! > >So when I go to read news.announce.newgroups, I see how many of these headers? >:-) Well it was only 1/2 serious... Got any better ideas? Perhaps RFD to news.groups and a seperate msg (& header) to affected groups referring them to the "real" discussion thread? -Richard Hartman hartman@ulogic.COM -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "If we shadows have offended, Think but this and all is mended: That you have but slumbered here, While these visions did appear. And this weak and idle theme, no more yielding but a dream."
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