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Article #231Re: dress code for public schools
From: Joseph E. Taranta
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:00
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Sandy Lemons wrote: > Why? > > Dress codes are: > > Sexist: Females are more often than not forced into dresses or skirts Bull Shit... > Elitest. Unifoms are expensive. Yes, there are programs to help > poverty line partents, but what of the working class poor? What of > children of homeless parent (s) who reside in shelters? I don't know about you but we had to pay an enrollment fee (at a public school) and spent about $260.00 for "required" supplies. Needy families were supplied with these items paid for by the district. As for what various children wear.... It seems they are even more clothes conscious than when I was in school. If it doesn't say Timmy Middlefinger or Katfish Kline or whatever on it they won't wear it. How are the poverty kids supposed to feel if their clothes come from Good Will or Wal-Mart? How do you think they feel when they can't dress like the other kids? My daughter has a friend that comes from a single parent home she has two other siblings. Do you think her parent can afford for her to dress the way other children do? So much for the poverty theory... > Racist. Children /parents who wish to continue celebrating their own > cultures will not be allowed to. > Anti-religous freedoms. Islam? Menonites? Orthodox Jews? Hindu? All of > these religions have laws covering clothing. > To start with Menonites traditionally home school their children. Nobody is going to stop people from covering their faces or wearing certain head gear, I assure you.. For example Christmas is not recognized in our district because there are about 21 different cultures and religions in attendance at our schools. I have yet to hear anyone complain about it. > Enviromently unsound. Manufacture of new clothing when exsisting > clothing could be ulitized. Extra useage of water and power *might* be > a factor. might be..... Ah.. weasel words. This is laughable. New styles of clothes come out each and every season. I suspect the opposite of your statement would be true since the styles of uniforms would seldom change. > Controling. Self explanatory What school does not want to have control of their students. It is not supposed to be anarchy. > Depresses creativity. I can see where banning obscene words and > images and maybe even gang colors *might* be useful..but I'm not > convinced of that. I can't even begin to comment on how idiotic this statement is and on so many levels.Gang colors might be ? (again weasel words). Hmmm... What else "might" be acceptable? A confederate flag? Something anti-Semitic lets say like a swastika. No thank you.... What I think you meant was "Suppresses creativity" . Depress is to drop or sink; lower. To press down. Suppress is to subdue, curtail or prohibit the activities of. And, this I doubt very seriously. > Fosters comformity. No Japanese robot children needed, thank you. > That is about the most racist statement I have seen all day.. So much for the comments above about religion and cultural diversity. Incidentally, I work with several asian americans and I can assure you they are not "robots". Further I really think they would take issue with a statement like that. > Who is to judge just what clothing is 'correct'? Your idea of > 'correct' clothing is not always mine. I am very certain of that.... Which is exactly why uniforms in some instances are definitely a good idea. > > > If you insist on a dress code for children..also insist on one for > teachers as well. > Most places I know of the teachers have to adhere to a "dress code". With that said. Why should they? > Just my opinion...been there, done that > Lemons Well... been there done that. I seriously doubt that you actually have. There are teenagers out there that are shooting each other in the face over a pair of tennis shoes. There are teenagers that are committing suicide because they feel inadequate to others. Many parents could care less about what is going on in their kids lives or some are completely over indulged and have no sense of humility or humanity. That is reality ... If nothing else uniforms give a sense of belonging and put every one on even ground. I am not saying that it is a good idea for every community. It is very much so for communities where drugs, violence and gang activity is prevalent or for communities where the students come from varying socio-economic conditions. -- Regards; Joseph E. Taranta
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a9ce,1d01f7a3f1c92a14 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a9ce,public X-Google-Thread: 108b95,1d01f7a3f1c92a14 X-Google-Attributes: gid108b95,public X-Google-Thread: 10fa57,1d01f7a3f1c92a14 X-Google-Attributes: gid10fa57,public X-Google-Thread: fa37c,8c2741d3ea53dec6 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa37c,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,1d01f7a3f1c92a14 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,1d01f7a3f1c92a14 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public From: "Joseph E. Taranta" <nospam_jtaran@ibm.net> Subject: Re: dress code for public schools Date: 1997/11/26 Message-ID: <347BD527.BF494C41@ibm.net> X-Deja-AN: 292783460 References: <3472F555.D7DB1A4@idt.net> <64voc3$8k@news.cyberenet.net> <3474628F.35CB@superzippo.com> <3641260701D7FD99.186611D79CA74E16.9D7170147EFDDD73@library-proxy.airnews.net> <3474C227.5F61@superzippo.com> <347875F4.220F@mail.vjc.eduXXXX> <jlower-2311971457460001@tulnas7-33.ionet.net> <3479885E.2CD8@bigfoot.com> <65cdao$s15$1@news.net-quest.com> <347AFCCB.2B3E@bigfoot.com> <347b7d8e.54968457@nntp.iamerica.net> Organization: IBM Global Services Reply-To: nospam_jtaran@ibm.net Newsgroups: nj.general,md.general,dc.general,ok.general,la.general,balt.general