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Re: dress code for public schools

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From: ShirKahn
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:00
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!!!bmyers@ionet.net (TarlaStar) wrote:
>
>I've been realllllly good, but there is some shit I cannot eat....and
>this is it. FUCK YOU, PINKBOY. You deserve the life you've gotten. You
>deserve to get absolutely NO HEAD or better yet, bitten! 

<snip>


Tarla, unless your purpose is simply to vent, tantrums like this one
don't do much in furtherance of intelligent discourse.

Granted, the posters ideas you were replying to, while personally
repugnant to me,  do warrant some small amount of consideration.

I was one of the poor kids at Cascia Hall in the 80's. The uniforms
helped to level the playing field between myself and my " not as smart
but definlty more acceptable to polite society" classmates. Thanks to
the uniforms, I got picked on because I was smart, not for some
shallow reason like my clothes weren't good enough.

As for a dress code in the public schools I for one would like to see
it. I try to consider myself open minded. Hell, I even give *almost*
every one of Demming's posts reasonable consideration (more than 4
Bible quotes I skip it) but  I believe that things have gone too far
in many of our classrooms.  I don't know if any one cause can be
pinpointed and blame attached but I do feel that things are going to
have to start changing and quickly if today's youth (and at this rate,
tomorrows organ donors) are to have a reasonable expectation of
success. 

Now before you go off on me about clothes not being an accurate
measure, look at it from my point of view. For years, I have done
hiring for the finer restaurants in Tulsa.  A girl with 12 piercings
in one ear and a barbell in her tongue is not going to get a job from
me because her appearance would cause my customers to balk.  A young
man dressed in a manner generally associated with gangs is not going
to get hired because who are his friends going to be that come to
"hang" until he gets off work? Are they going to
scare/intimidate/irritate my high paying customers?  I don't know and
never will simply because I'm not going to take the chance. Wouldn't
that be a real shame if the applicant was intelligent and would have
done a good job for me but for the sake of fashion or "expressing his
individuality" he didn't get the job? Nobody wins.

 Now think about it, these are service positions. Typically,  these
jobs are not that tough to get and don't require, most times, formal
education. (My hiring has been basically "most teeth, phone, car" ok-
I'll give you a shot).  If they are getting denied jobs at the nice
places, where will they end up, some place with a drive-thru window?
Even then, their opportunities will be limited if they maintain the
dress/attitude (even in their off hours- I know your personal life
ideally should not effect your professional one but the reality is
that it does)

These are just my opinions debate if you like,  flame if you feel like
making an ass of  yourself.

-ShirKahn
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From: shirkahn@earthlink.net (ShirKahn)
Subject: Re: dress code for public schools
Date: 1997/11/25
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