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> Emne:
>              Judgement Day results
>          Dato:
>              Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:46:45 -0400
>           Fra:
>              "Brad Wardell"
>  Nyhetsgrupper:
>              stardock.os2
>
>
>
>
> In 1998, Stardock took the position that if IBM had no current or projected
> plans for a new fat OS/2 client, that it was in the interests of OS/2 users
> and the computing community in general that a third-party should work with
> IBM to license OS/2 technology on an OEM basis and make a new client
> available.
>
> To that end, late last year, Stardock prepared a business plan and opened
> negotiations with IBM. The wheels of bureacracy grind slowly, but eventually
> it was up to "IBM" (executive level) to make the ultimate call on
> proceeding.
>
> For the past 6 months, Stardock and IBM have been working closely together
> in hammering out the details of an OS/2 client.  Everything from potential
> names down to which minute components would or would not be included.  These
> meetings included multiple in-person meetings with IBM staff and executives
> here at Stardock's office complex in Livonia Michigan.
>
> With an agreement in principle in place, the last major hurdle was this week
> in which the IBMers in favor of our proposal (mostly in Austin) presented
> their case to IBM as a whole.
>
> The call has been made -- there will be no new client from Stardock and IBM
> has indicated that they have no plans for an OS/2-based client of their own.
>
> Though IBM indicated Stardock had the strongest proposal, they have decided
> that it is currently not in IBM's or their customer's interests to license
> any current OS/2 technology on an OEM-basis.
>
> There was never any discord between IBM and Stardock over financials,
> technical viability, target market, or the like.  IBM has simply finally
> made the decision that a new OS/2 client would be in conflict with their
> strategic directions.
>
> Stardock would like to extend a special thanks to all the IBMers (and in
> particular Ken Christopher and Timothy Sipples) who went above and beyond
> the call in working with us and going to bat inside IBM.  Remember when you
> meet folks like them, who are and have been intimately involved with OS/2,
> that their hands may be just as tied as yours when the IBM Corporation as a
> whole sets policy.
>
> Everything that could be done was done.
>
> Brad
>
> ---
> Brad Wardell
> Product Manager: Object Desktop & The Corporate Machine
> http://www.stardock.com
>

Kj�re OS/2-venner!

Det er ser n� ut for at OS/2 n� er er lagt i kista for godt, og at IBM
satte den siste spikeren i kista for en ny OS/2 klient. Jeg m� si at jeg
oppi all skuffelsen f�ler en viss skadefryd overfor de norske
OS/2-brukere som i sin grensel�se naivitet har idealisert IBM. P� noen
m�ter er IBM VERRE enn Microsoft - sistnevnte leverer tross alt fortsatt
operativsystemer!!

Noen av dere vil sikkert si: IBM, som andre selskap, er ogs� avhengig av
� tjene penger. Hvorfor da "sabotere" at et mindre selskap som Stardock
overtar utviklingen av en OS/2-klient, n�r det tross alt er Stardock som
b�rer den �konomiske risikoen ved videreutvikling og markedsf�ring? Nei,
folkens, dette kan vanskelig oppfattes anderledes enn at IBM aktivt
�nsker � ta livet av OS/2!!

Det ser ut til at det eneste alternativet til Mafiasoft blir Linux eller
andre systemer med �pen kildekode. Jeg f�r begynne � orientere meg i den
retning....

By the way: Jeg har masse OS/2 software til salgs (SmartSuite,
ColorWorks V2, UniMaint 5, GammaTech Utilities v 4, Process Commander,
BackAgain/2 Professional V4, Norman Virus Control v 4.70 + en rekke
registerte shareware-programmer), s� dersom noen er interessert, s� er
det bare � kontakte meg p� adressen nedenfor.

Med hilsen


Cato A. Guldberg

--
Cato A. Guldberg, M.D.
Oscar Wistings gate 61 B
N-4019 STAVANGER, Norway.
Phone:    +47 51 58 23 35
Fax:      +47 51 52 50 03
e-mail:   cguldber@eunet.no

PS: Ironi: OS/2 har aldri tidligere kj�rt s� stabilt hos meg (har brukt
OS/2 Warp fra 1994) som n�!!


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<PRE>Emne:&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Judgement Day results
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dato:&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:46:45 -0400
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fra:&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Brad Wardell"&nbsp;<bwardell@stardock.com>
&nbsp;Nyhetsgrupper:&nbsp;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; stardock.os2




In 1998, Stardock took the position that if IBM had no current or projected
plans for a new fat OS/2 client, that it was in the interests of OS/2 users
and the computing community in general that a third-party should work with
IBM to license OS/2 technology on an OEM basis and make a new client
available.

To that end, late last year, Stardock prepared a business plan and opened
negotiations with IBM. The wheels of bureacracy grind slowly, but eventually
it was up to "IBM" (executive level) to make the ultimate call on
proceeding.

For the past 6 months, Stardock and IBM have been working closely together
in hammering out the details of an OS/2 client.&nbsp; Everything from potential
names down to which minute components would or would not be included.&nbsp; These
meetings included multiple in-person meetings with IBM staff and executives
here at Stardock's office complex in Livonia Michigan.

With an agreement in principle in place, the last major hurdle was this week
in which the IBMers in favor of our proposal (mostly in Austin) presented
their case to IBM as a whole.

The call has been made -- there will be no new client from Stardock and IBM
has indicated that they have no plans for an OS/2-based client of their own.

Though IBM indicated Stardock had the strongest proposal, they have decided
that it is currently not in IBM's or their customer's interests to license
any current OS/2 technology on an OEM-basis.

There was never any discord between IBM and Stardock over financials,
technical viability, target market, or the like.&nbsp; IBM has simply finally
made the decision that a new OS/2 client would be in conflict with their
strategic directions.

Stardock would like to extend a special thanks to all the IBMers (and in
particular Ken Christopher and Timothy Sipples) who went above and beyond
the call in working with us and going to bat inside IBM.&nbsp; Remember when you
meet folks like them, who are and have been intimately involved with OS/2,
that their hands may be just as tied as yours when the IBM Corporation as a
whole sets policy.

Everything that could be done was done.

Brad

---
Brad Wardell
Product Manager: Object Desktop &amp; The Corporate Machine
<A HREF="http://www.stardock.com">http://www.stardock.com</A></PRE>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;
<BR>Kj&aelig;re OS/2-venner!

<P>Det er ser n&aring; ut for at OS/2 n&aring; er er lagt i kista for godt,
og at IBM satte den siste spikeren i kista for en ny OS/2 klient. Jeg m&aring;
si at jeg oppi all skuffelsen f&oslash;ler en viss skadefryd overfor de
norske OS/2-brukere som i sin grensel&oslash;se naivitet har idealisert
IBM. P&aring; noen m&aring;ter er IBM VERRE enn Microsoft - sistnevnte
leverer tross alt fortsatt operativsystemer!!

<P>Noen av dere vil sikkert si: IBM, som andre selskap, er ogs&aring; avhengig
av &aring; tjene penger. Hvorfor da "sabotere" at et mindre selskap som
Stardock overtar utviklingen av en OS/2-klient, n&aring;r det tross alt
er Stardock som b&aelig;rer den &oslash;konomiske risikoen ved videreutvikling
og markedsf&oslash;ring? Nei, folkens, dette kan vanskelig oppfattes anderledes
enn at IBM aktivt &oslash;nsker &aring; ta livet av OS/2!!

<P>Det ser ut til at det eneste alternativet til Mafiasoft blir Linux eller
andre systemer med &aring;pen kildekode. Jeg f&aring;r begynne &aring;
orientere meg i den retning....

<P>By the way: Jeg har masse OS/2 software til salgs (SmartSuite, ColorWorks
V2, UniMaint 5, GammaTech Utilities v 4, Process Commander,&nbsp; BackAgain/2
Professional V4, Norman Virus Control v 4.70 + en rekke registerte shareware-programmer),
s&aring; dersom noen er interessert, s&aring; er det bare &aring; kontakte
meg p&aring; adressen nedenfor.

<P>Med hilsen
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>Cato A. Guldberg

<P>--
<BR>Cato A. Guldberg, M.D.
<BR>Oscar Wistings gate 61 B
<BR>N-4019 STAVANGER, Norway.
<BR>Phone:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +47 51 58 23 35
<BR>Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +47 51 52 50 03
<BR>e-mail:&nbsp;&nbsp; cguldber@eunet.no

<P>PS: Ironi: OS/2 har aldri tidligere kj&oslash;rt s&aring; stabilt hos
meg (har brukt OS/2 Warp fra 1994) som n&aring;!!
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