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Started by Cato A. Guldberg
Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
N� er OS/2 d�d!
Author: Cato A. Guldberg
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
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--------------BB354202233BC2B8267B1518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Emne: > Judgement Day results > Dato: > Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:46:45 -0400 > Fra: > "Brad Wardell" > Nyhetsgrupper: > stardock.os2 > > > > > In 1998, Stardock took the position that if IBM had no current or projected > plans for a new fat OS/2 client, that it was in the interests of OS/2 users > and the computing community in general that a third-party should work with > IBM to license OS/2 technology on an OEM basis and make a new client > available. > > To that end, late last year, Stardock prepared a business plan and opened > negotiations with IBM. The wheels of bureacracy grind slowly, but eventually > it was up to "IBM" (executive level) to make the ultimate call on > proceeding. > > For the past 6 months, Stardock and IBM have been working closely together > in hammering out the details of an OS/2 client. Everything from potential > names down to which minute components would or would not be included. These > meetings included multiple in-person meetings with IBM staff and executives > here at Stardock's office complex in Livonia Michigan. > > With an agreement in principle in place, the last major hurdle was this week > in which the IBMers in favor of our proposal (mostly in Austin) presented > their case to IBM as a whole. > > The call has been made -- there will be no new client from Stardock and IBM > has indicated that they have no plans for an OS/2-based client of their own. > > Though IBM indicated Stardock had the strongest proposal, they have decided > that it is currently not in IBM's or their customer's interests to license > any current OS/2 technology on an OEM-basis. > > There was never any discord between IBM and Stardock over financials, > technical viability, target market, or the like. IBM has simply finally > made the decision that a new OS/2 client would be in conflict with their > strategic directions. > > Stardock would like to extend a special thanks to all the IBMers (and in > particular Ken Christopher and Timothy Sipples) who went above and beyond > the call in working with us and going to bat inside IBM. Remember when you > meet folks like them, who are and have been intimately involved with OS/2, > that their hands may be just as tied as yours when the IBM Corporation as a > whole sets policy. > > Everything that could be done was done. > > Brad > > --- > Brad Wardell > Product Manager: Object Desktop & The Corporate Machine > http://www.stardock.com > Kj�re OS/2-venner! Det er ser n� ut for at OS/2 n� er er lagt i kista for godt, og at IBM satte den siste spikeren i kista for en ny OS/2 klient. Jeg m� si at jeg oppi all skuffelsen f�ler en viss skadefryd overfor de norske OS/2-brukere som i sin grensel�se naivitet har idealisert IBM. P� noen m�ter er IBM VERRE enn Microsoft - sistnevnte leverer tross alt fortsatt operativsystemer!! Noen av dere vil sikkert si: IBM, som andre selskap, er ogs� avhengig av � tjene penger. Hvorfor da "sabotere" at et mindre selskap som Stardock overtar utviklingen av en OS/2-klient, n�r det tross alt er Stardock som b�rer den �konomiske risikoen ved videreutvikling og markedsf�ring? Nei, folkens, dette kan vanskelig oppfattes anderledes enn at IBM aktivt �nsker � ta livet av OS/2!! Det ser ut til at det eneste alternativet til Mafiasoft blir Linux eller andre systemer med �pen kildekode. Jeg f�r begynne � orientere meg i den retning.... By the way: Jeg har masse OS/2 software til salgs (SmartSuite, ColorWorks V2, UniMaint 5, GammaTech Utilities v 4, Process Commander, BackAgain/2 Professional V4, Norman Virus Control v 4.70 + en rekke registerte shareware-programmer), s� dersom noen er interessert, s� er det bare � kontakte meg p� adressen nedenfor. Med hilsen Cato A. Guldberg -- Cato A. Guldberg, M.D. Oscar Wistings gate 61 B N-4019 STAVANGER, Norway. Phone: +47 51 58 23 35 Fax: +47 51 52 50 03 e-mail: cguldber@eunet.no PS: Ironi: OS/2 har aldri tidligere kj�rt s� stabilt hos meg (har brukt OS/2 Warp fra 1994) som n�!! --------------BB354202233BC2B8267B1518 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE>Emne: Judgement Day results Dato: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:46:45 -0400 Fra: "Brad Wardell" <bwardell@stardock.com> Nyhetsgrupper: stardock.os2 In 1998, Stardock took the position that if IBM had no current or projected plans for a new fat OS/2 client, that it was in the interests of OS/2 users and the computing community in general that a third-party should work with IBM to license OS/2 technology on an OEM basis and make a new client available. To that end, late last year, Stardock prepared a business plan and opened negotiations with IBM. The wheels of bureacracy grind slowly, but eventually it was up to "IBM" (executive level) to make the ultimate call on proceeding. For the past 6 months, Stardock and IBM have been working closely together in hammering out the details of an OS/2 client. Everything from potential names down to which minute components would or would not be included. These meetings included multiple in-person meetings with IBM staff and executives here at Stardock's office complex in Livonia Michigan. With an agreement in principle in place, the last major hurdle was this week in which the IBMers in favor of our proposal (mostly in Austin) presented their case to IBM as a whole. The call has been made -- there will be no new client from Stardock and IBM has indicated that they have no plans for an OS/2-based client of their own. Though IBM indicated Stardock had the strongest proposal, they have decided that it is currently not in IBM's or their customer's interests to license any current OS/2 technology on an OEM-basis. There was never any discord between IBM and Stardock over financials, technical viability, target market, or the like. IBM has simply finally made the decision that a new OS/2 client would be in conflict with their strategic directions. Stardock would like to extend a special thanks to all the IBMers (and in particular Ken Christopher and Timothy Sipples) who went above and beyond the call in working with us and going to bat inside IBM. Remember when you meet folks like them, who are and have been intimately involved with OS/2, that their hands may be just as tied as yours when the IBM Corporation as a whole sets policy. Everything that could be done was done. Brad --- Brad Wardell Product Manager: Object Desktop & The Corporate Machine <A HREF="http://www.stardock.com">http://www.stardock.com</A></PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Kjære OS/2-venner! <P>Det er ser nå ut for at OS/2 nå er er lagt i kista for godt, og at IBM satte den siste spikeren i kista for en ny OS/2 klient. Jeg må si at jeg oppi all skuffelsen føler en viss skadefryd overfor de norske OS/2-brukere som i sin grenseløse naivitet har idealisert IBM. På noen måter er IBM VERRE enn Microsoft - sistnevnte leverer tross alt fortsatt operativsystemer!! <P>Noen av dere vil sikkert si: IBM, som andre selskap, er også avhengig av å tjene penger. Hvorfor da "sabotere" at et mindre selskap som Stardock overtar utviklingen av en OS/2-klient, når det tross alt er Stardock som bærer den økonomiske risikoen ved videreutvikling og markedsføring? Nei, folkens, dette kan vanskelig oppfattes anderledes enn at IBM aktivt ønsker å ta livet av OS/2!! <P>Det ser ut til at det eneste alternativet til Mafiasoft blir Linux eller andre systemer med åpen kildekode. Jeg får begynne å orientere meg i den retning.... <P>By the way: Jeg har masse OS/2 software til salgs (SmartSuite, ColorWorks V2, UniMaint 5, GammaTech Utilities v 4, Process Commander, BackAgain/2 Professional V4, Norman Virus Control v 4.70 + en rekke registerte shareware-programmer), så dersom noen er interessert, så er det bare å kontakte meg på adressen nedenfor. <P>Med hilsen <BR> <P>Cato A. Guldberg <P>-- <BR>Cato A. Guldberg, M.D. <BR>Oscar Wistings gate 61 B <BR>N-4019 STAVANGER, Norway. <BR>Phone: +47 51 58 23 35 <BR>Fax: +47 51 52 50 03 <BR>e-mail: cguldber@eunet.no <P>PS: Ironi: OS/2 har aldri tidligere kjørt så stabilt hos meg (har brukt OS/2 Warp fra 1994) som nå!! <BR> </HTML> --------------BB354202233BC2B8267B1518--
Re: Nå er OS/2 død!
Author: G. van der Veer
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00
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> Kj�re OS/2-venner! > > Det er ser n� ut for at OS/2 n� er er lagt i kista for godt, og at IBM > satte den siste spikeren i kista for en ny OS/2 klient. Jeg m� si at > jeg oppi all skuffelsen f�ler en viss skadefryd overfor de norske > OS/2-brukere som i sin grensel�se naivitet har idealisert IBM. P� noen > m�ter er IBM VERRE enn Microsoft - sistnevnte leverer tross alt > fortsatt operativsystemer!! ja tyv�rr, s� blir det.. OS/2-v�rldens �nda har nu kommit - �tminstone n�r det g�ller klienten. > Noen av dere vil sikkert si: IBM, som andre selskap, er ogs� avhengig > av � tjene penger. Hvorfor da "sabotere" at et mindre selskap som > Stardock overtar utviklingen av en OS/2-klient, n�r det tross alt er > Stardock som b�rer den �konomiske risikoen ved videreutvikling og > markedsf�ring? Nei, folkens, dette kan vanskelig oppfattes anderledes > enn at IBM aktivt �nsker � ta livet av OS/2!! Problemet som jag t�nker ligger bakom �r att IBM inte �nskar dela tekniken med StarDock. Vidare �r vi som privatanv�ndare inget intresseomr�de f�r IBM. OS/2 f�r i h�sten av sitt liv leva vidare som server f�r att d� sakta i all tystnad. Det �r ingen d�lig marknadsf�ring... bara likgiltighet fr�n IBM's sida, snarare ovilja. Vi som sm� dv�rganv�ndare �r inte tillr�ckligt intressanta f�r Big Blue. > Det ser ut til at det eneste alternativet til Mafiasoft blir Linux > eller andre systemer med �pen kildekode. Jeg f�r begynne � orientere > meg i den retning.... Ingen kommersiell produkt f�r mig l�ngre. Jag t�nker inte "downgrada" mitt system till Windows 95,98 eller NT. Det endaste alternativet blir d� sj�lvfallet Linux. Om det inte blir Linux s� g�r jag �ver fr�n PC till Mac. > By the way: Jeg har masse OS/2 software til salgs (SmartSuite, > ColorWorks V2, UniMaint 5, GammaTech Utilities v 4, Process > Commander, BackAgain/2 Professional V4, Norman Virus Control v 4.70 + > en rekke registerte shareware-programmer), s� dersom noen er > interessert, s� er det bare � kontakte meg p� adressen nedenfor. H�r har jag en beta Warp Server for E-business k�randes... alldeles utm�rkt och till rimligt pris, ca 140 kronor med JFS, HPFS386 och massor av bra program. Systemet skall v�l inte f�rsvinna fr�n datorn p� kort sikt. Det finns i allafall ett hush�ll d�r Warp klarar �ret 2000!!! S�rjom icke, mina v�nner, livet g�r vidare... �ven utan OS2. tjohej, -- Berry van der Veer +------------------------------------------+ http://www.torget.se/users/g/gvdveer http://www.dsv.nl/~gvdveer +------------------------------------------+
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