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My eyes went all googly to have seen *TheAmazingGuffy@gmail.com* write this:

> Roger Coppock wrote:
>> I Am *Not* Mentok wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1997/11.06/BrighteningSuni.html wherein
>>> it says:
>>>
>>> "There is a better explanation for global warming than air pollution, two
>>> _Harvard_ researchers say:
>>
>> You're "Harvard" "researchers" (Ahem! Cough! Cough!)
>> are Soon and Baliunas, who've both been on the
>> Carbon fuel industry take for many years now.
>> A partial and out-of-data list of money they've taken
>> from industry interests is below.
>>
>>
>>> '*the* *Sun* *is* *increasing* *in* *brightness* *and* *radiance*.'
>>
>> In science, it's not somebodys word, but real data which
>> determines the facts.  What does actual data say?
>>
>> Over the last 29 years direct, not proxy, measurement of
>> *the* *Sun's* *output* *has* *shown* *no* *long* *term* *growth,*
>> just a small amplitude 11-year cycle,
>> so something else must be warming the Earth:
>> http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant
>>
>> =-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>> Willie Soon:
>> "Fraser Forum" contributing writer with Fraser Institute: $ 120,000
>> Science Roundtable Member with Tech Central Station: $ 95,000
>> Senior Scientist with George C. Marshall Institute: $ 515,000
>>
>> Sallie Baliunas:
>> Board of Academic and Scientific Advisors with Committee for a
>> Constructive Tomorrow: $ 382,000
>> Senior Scientist, Science Advisory Board Member with George C. Marshall
>> Institute: $ 515,000
>> Scientific Expert with Competitive Enterprise Institute: $ 1,645,000
>> Enviro-Sci host, Science Roundtable Member with Tech Central Station: $
>> 95,000
>> Spokeswoman with Manhattan Institute for Policy Research: $ 175,000
>> Policy Expert with Heritage Foundation: $ 525,000
>> Position Paper Reviewer with American Council on Science and Health: $
>> 85,000
>
> Like this paper Roger....
> http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20030320/
>
> "The accurate long-term dataset, therefore, shows a significant
> positive trend (.05 percent per decade) in TSI between the solar minima
> of solar cycles 21 to 23 (1978 to present). This major finding may help
> climatologists to distinguish between solar and man-made influences on
> climate."

Interesting that "Roger" chose to cherry-pick what he wanted to "discredit" and 
the manner in which he did it, conveniently ignoring anything and everything 
else which did not agree with his agenda, like the effect of volcanic activity 
on the atmosphere and climate, and the possibility that we are simply in a 
long-running natural cycle on the upswing in global temperatures.

"Amazing", had our "friend" Roger bothered to take my advice and read any of the 
other references to which I pointed instead of choosing to narrow-mindedly zero 
in on just the one to which I referred, he would have at least achieved a 
modicum of the enlightenment I suggested he would have attained and sound a hell 
of a lot more intelligent than he imagines he is.

This is what I call "willful ignorance";  choosing, by an act of one's will, to 
ignore opposing viewpoints simply because they do not jibe with what one 
steadfastly holds to be true, even after being shown evidence, however flawed it 
may or may not be, to the contrary.  At least have the intellectual honesty 
and/or integrity to listen to it before dismissing it out-of-hand, eh, "Roger"?

"Roger", there are scads more people than just these two - whom you chose to 
vilify - who hold a similar opinion and are not under anyone's sway or the 
influence of some industry's purse-strings.  You are *so* intent on only 
listening to one side of the argument when the true intellectual examines /all/ 
sides of an issue before making such a rash, 
"don't-let-facts-get-in-the-way-of-the-truth" presumption.  I happen to believe 
that the actual answer to this whole "global warming" brouhaha lies somewhere 
in-between;  that it could very well be caused by a combination of these factors 
(man-made and a hotter sun, plus a few more), and not just one or the other. 
Fair enough?

"Guffy", thank you for being a voice of reason.  Life is so much simpler when 
one employs common sense, logic and rational thought instead of falling prey to 
emotional hype, apparently to which "Roger" has fallen victim, as well as the 
vast majority of the "the-sky-is-falling" global warming crowd.

-- 
The *Original* Captain Ozone

(and *not* this clown:  http://captainozone.com/)