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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: wrcowan1
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:52
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Chris wrote:
> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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>>
>>Chris wrote:
>>
>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>news:4323ad10$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
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>>>
>>>>Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4322710f$0$10625$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well considering that now the federal gubment is saying the locals
> 
> were
> 
>>>>>>>under water and overwhelmed themselves and they could not handle the
>>>>>>>evacuation....makes you wonder why they didn't step in if they knew
>>>>>
>>>>>this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>FIrst reason is the law.  The Federal Government can not just take
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> over.
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>>>>>
>>>>>Not according to the homeland securitydepartment...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Read the law on Homeland security, FEMA and the National Guard.  You
>>>>will clearly see that they can not just come and take over.
>>>
>>>
>>>You read it, I have already....notice the part about a national
> 
> disaster?
> 
>>That still does not change the fact that the federal Government can not
>>take charge from the State and local officials.  The fact it may called
>>a national disaster, only means that aid as spelled out under the
>>Staaford Act comes in to play.  Read the Stafford act.
>>
>>Read these links as Well
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>>Louisiana State Emergency Operations Plan - 2005
>>
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> http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/STATE%20OF%20LOUISIANA%20EOP%202005.doc
> 
>>Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan:
>>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1a.pdf
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>>Southwest Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan:
>>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1b.pdf
>>
>>Shelter Plan:
>>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSheltersupplement.pdf
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>>Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, as
>>amended by Public Law 106-390, October 30, 2000
>>http://www.fema.gov/library/stafact.shtm#sec501
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>>Federal Response Plan:
>>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/frp2003.pdf
>>
>>
>>>>>> The Constitution and USC stand in the way.  Inorder to have done it
>>>>>>was to declare insurrection (which is not was going on in Lousiana).
> 
> If
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>>>>>>that was done then the Feds would have controlled the National Guard
> 
> and
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>>>>>>Federal Troops could step in.  The Second reason is reality.
>>>>>>Insurrection was last declared during the King Riots of the 1990's but
>>>>>>that was only after The Govenor of California agreed to have it done.
>>>>>>It has been a rarely used act  If it were done what do you think the
>>>>>>headlines would be if a govenor was pushed aside by force and troops
>>>>>>descending on a majority Black city?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MRC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Only two dead in NO?
>>>>
>>>>And your point?  YOu have failed to address the Constitutional issues
>>>>and well as the issues of the USC.
>>>>
>>>>MRC
>>>
>>>
>>>And you have just kept spinning to try and deflect the sorry ass
> 
> response by
> 
>>>bushy and company....to bad it wasn't a horse show, maybe brownie could
> 
> have
> 
>>>done a better job with it.
>>
>>You still have failed to address the Constitutional issues as well as
>>the issues dealing with the USC.  Come on do you not have anything
>>intellegent to write on the subject?
>>
>>MRC
> 
> 
> Yes I do but you seem incapable of doing anything but defending bushy and
> his fuckups.....so why bother....I am not going to change what you so
> quaintly call your mind.


Ah, so when faced with the facts you run.  YOu know what I have said is 
correct.  Otherwise you would have read them and address thesubject.  Or 
is it that the law does not matter to you.

Game, Set , Match!

MRC
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:52:34 -0700
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