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Article #1032Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory
From: wrcowan1
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:52
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 04:52
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Chris wrote: > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > news:43265b71$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > >> >>Chris wrote: >> >>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message >>>news:4323ad10$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... >>> >>> >>>>Chris wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message >>>>>news:4322710f$0$10625$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Chris wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Well considering that now the federal gubment is saying the locals > > were > >>>>>>>under water and overwhelmed themselves and they could not handle the >>>>>>>evacuation....makes you wonder why they didn't step in if they knew >>>>> >>>>>this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>FIrst reason is the law. The Federal Government can not just take > > over. > >>>>> >>>>>Not according to the homeland securitydepartment... >>>>> >>>> >>>>Read the law on Homeland security, FEMA and the National Guard. You >>>>will clearly see that they can not just come and take over. >>> >>> >>>You read it, I have already....notice the part about a national > > disaster? > >>That still does not change the fact that the federal Government can not >>take charge from the State and local officials. The fact it may called >>a national disaster, only means that aid as spelled out under the >>Staaford Act comes in to play. Read the Stafford act. >> >>Read these links as Well >> >>Louisiana State Emergency Operations Plan - 2005 >> > > http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/STATE%20OF%20LOUISIANA%20EOP%202005.doc > >>Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan: >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1a.pdf >> >>Southwest Louisiana Hurricane Evacuation and Sheltering Plan: >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSupplement1b.pdf >> >>Shelter Plan: >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/EOPSheltersupplement.pdf >> >>Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, as >>amended by Public Law 106-390, October 30, 2000 >>http://www.fema.gov/library/stafact.shtm#sec501 >> >>Federal Response Plan: >>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/plans/frp2003.pdf >> >> >>>>>> The Constitution and USC stand in the way. Inorder to have done it >>>>>>was to declare insurrection (which is not was going on in Lousiana). > > If > >>>>>>that was done then the Feds would have controlled the National Guard > > and > >>>>>>Federal Troops could step in. The Second reason is reality. >>>>>>Insurrection was last declared during the King Riots of the 1990's but >>>>>>that was only after The Govenor of California agreed to have it done. >>>>>>It has been a rarely used act If it were done what do you think the >>>>>>headlines would be if a govenor was pushed aside by force and troops >>>>>>descending on a majority Black city? >>>>>> >>>>>>MRC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Only two dead in NO? >>>> >>>>And your point? YOu have failed to address the Constitutional issues >>>>and well as the issues of the USC. >>>> >>>>MRC >>> >>> >>>And you have just kept spinning to try and deflect the sorry ass > > response by > >>>bushy and company....to bad it wasn't a horse show, maybe brownie could > > have > >>>done a better job with it. >> >>You still have failed to address the Constitutional issues as well as >>the issues dealing with the USC. Come on do you not have anything >>intellegent to write on the subject? >> >>MRC > > > Yes I do but you seem incapable of doing anything but defending bushy and > his fuckups.....so why bother....I am not going to change what you so > quaintly call your mind. Ah, so when faced with the facts you run. YOu know what I have said is correct. Otherwise you would have read them and address thesubject. Or is it that the law does not matter to you. Game, Set , Match! MRC
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X-Google-Thread: 10675b,6c188bf2182624f7 X-Google-Thread: 104ad1,6c188bf2182624f7 X-Google-Thread: feb97,6c188bf2182624f7 X-Google-Thread: 109097,6c188bf2182624f7 X-Google-Thread: 10b82c,6c188bf2182624f7 X-Google-Attributes: gid10675b,gid104ad1,gidfeb97,gid109097,gid10b82c,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!spooler.hal-mli.net!news.hal-pc.org!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:52:34 -0700 From: wrcowan1@hal-pc.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: nyc.general,dfw.general,nyc.politics,houston.general,austin.general Subject: Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory References: <1125894045.886073.267790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <lDTSe.6743$L86.2028@bignews6.bellsouth.net> <dfhfpo$oto$1@panix5.panix.com> <d1ioh11q3rrgnedi588ocf1r2pks8p4opo@4ax.com> <431C5AB9.AE78214@nyc.rr.com> <1125932127.743988.62930@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <431C8181.BD793ED7@nyc.rr.com> <1125986593.671671.242730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <jcvqh1t6q4ilpul6r9n69td99qedj6o7g2@4ax.com> <MPG.1d87500cb5b834c598a48b@newsgroups.comcast.net> <3qgTe.3110$AB4.1944@trnddc03> <431dd7c7$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> <U6uTe.865$JN5.814@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> <431fad33$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> <BsYTe.2720$I7.2358@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <4320fa7e$0$10625$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> <43225d87_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> <4322710f$0$10625$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> <4323a260_2@newsfeed.slurp.net> <4323ad10$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> <4325020e_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> <43265b71$0$10624$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> <4326795c_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> In-Reply-To: <4326795c_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 137 Message-ID: <4328e1de$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org> Organization: Houston Area League of PC Users NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Sep 2005 21:52:14 CDT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.151.151.117 X-Trace: 1126752734 news.hal-pc.org 10628 wrcowan1/69.151.151.117:2462 X-Complaints-To: abuse@hal-pc.org