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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:29:37 -0700, wrcowan1@hal-pc.org
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>Obwon wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:41:02 -0700, wrcowan1@hal-pc.org
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>>>dashaun345@aol.com wrote:
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>>>>wrcowan1@hal-pc.org wrote:
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>>>>>I do not think it was politicalization per se.  It was just plain
>>>>>stupidity.  The Mayor of N.O was an idiot who failed to carry out the
>>>>>emergency plan as outlined.  He did not think out his actions.  Instead
>>>>>he just reacted badly with poor judgement.  The Govenor of Louisiana did
>>>>>not follow the emergency plan as was outlined.  She furthe made things
>>>>>worse by failing to send in the guard earlier and in sufficent numbers.
>>>>> She failed to allow FEMA and the Red cross to do its job.  I think she
>>>>>probably politicized the situation.  She wanted to retain control when
>>>>>clearly she had no clue or was even prepared.  She feared sending in the
>>>>>guard because it would look bad.  She did not want to make mandatory
>>>>>evacuations because of perception.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am confident that if had at least directed all her agencies to
>>>>>coordinate with FEMA and the Red Cross things would have been better.
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>>>>The mayor of New Orleans did not display competence.
>>>>The governor of Louisiana did not display competence.
>>>>The President of the United States was unaware.
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>>>The President was awar.  He issued the declaration that allowed FEMA and 
>>>federal aid be available to louisian before the storm hit.  He told the 
>>>govenor that mandatory evacuations should occur.
>>>
>>>MRC
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>>   Yeah, but he wouldn't sign the necessary papers that
>> would have allowed the military to come in and
>> distribute aid,  for three days.  Until after many of
>> the evacuees had died.  You can call that "aware" if
>> you want to!
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>Again he was constraind by the actions of the Govenor.  She had to sign 
>off on it first.  For the President ohave done otherwise would have been 
>a bad precedent and possible violation of law.
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>Read the law.  Read the USC and the Stafford act.  If the PResident went 
>in with troops without following the law you would be howling all over 
>the place for his head on a platter.
>
>MRC

  Again...  HE WAS "CONSTRAINED" BY HIS OWN SOMNOLENCE!
When he got the warning that the state would need
federal help, in a late night phone call,  he rolled
over and went back to SLEEP!!!   Exactly when, we have
a right to expect,  given all he has said about keeping
America safe,  that he'd have gotten out of that bed,
turned on the t.v.  called his people and followed the
storms progress! 

  We have a right to expect him to have kept himself
informed of up-to-the-minute developments,  even if
there was nothing he could do,  we have a right to
expect that he'd at-the-least have keep himself abreast
of the impending matters and not go to sleep until the
coast was clear!  Or, even failing that, he'd have
ordered someone or a few people on his staff to follow
the events!

  Instead, he went back to sleep,  forgot about the
appeals and/or warnings and pleas for help!  He forgot
about the storm for three days,  not listening to a
radio report or even turning on a tv., and he had many
more resources he could have used than just those.
His own people,  the people he appointed to manage
disaster/emergency responses themselves remained
unaware and unconcerned about the unfolding disaster!

  Now, you're telling us about how "paperwork", and the
need to complete it properly,  was responsible for the
loss of lives and the civil unrest that ensued.  Clue:
Do you really know what you're talking about?  I don't
think so,  you're really not providing any evidence
that you either know or care about the real tasks
involve in really saving the lives of stricken victims
of disaster.

  Maybe, if you were caught in a flood and your
neighbor came by in a power boat,  and he said to you,
"Gee, I'd like to pick you up,  but I'll need a waiver
from your insurer,  so you'll have to wait there."
Maybe that would give you a clue as to how rescue
operations should be structured.

  Obwon
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