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On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:15:18 GMT, "Kurtz" <the
horror@HG.com> wrote:

>
><wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
>news:432b9b9a$0$10631$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
>>
>>
>> Obwon wrote:
>> > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:41:02 -0700, wrcowan1@hal-pc.org
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>dashaun345@aol.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>wrcowan1@hal-pc.org wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>I do not think it was politicalization per se.  It was just plain
>> >>>>stupidity.  The Mayor of N.O was an idiot who failed to carry out the
>> >>>>emergency plan as outlined.  He did not think out his actions.
>Instead
>> >>>>he just reacted badly with poor judgement.  The Govenor of Louisiana
>did
>> >>>>not follow the emergency plan as was outlined.  She furthe made things
>> >>>>worse by failing to send in the guard earlier and in sufficent
>numbers.
>> >>>> She failed to allow FEMA and the Red cross to do its job.  I think
>she
>> >>>>probably politicized the situation.  She wanted to retain control when
>> >>>>clearly she had no clue or was even prepared.  She feared sending in
>the
>> >>>>guard because it would look bad.  She did not want to make mandatory
>> >>>>evacuations because of perception.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I am confident that if had at least directed all her agencies to
>> >>>>coordinate with FEMA and the Red Cross things would have been better.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>The mayor of New Orleans did not display competence.
>> >>>The governor of Louisiana did not display competence.
>> >>>The President of the United States was unaware.
>> >>
>> >>The President was awar.  He issued the declaration that allowed FEMA and
>> >>federal aid be available to louisian before the storm hit.  He told the
>> >>govenor that mandatory evacuations should occur.
>> >>
>> >>MRC
>> >
>> >
>> >   Yeah, but he wouldn't sign the necessary papers that
>> > would have allowed the military to come in and
>> > distribute aid,  for three days.  Until after many of
>> > the evacuees had died.  You can call that "aware" if
>> > you want to!
>>
>>
>> Again he was constraind by the actions of the Govenor.  She had to sign
>> off on it first.  For the President ohave done otherwise would have been
>> a bad precedent and possible violation of law.
>>
>> Read the law.  Read the USC and the Stafford act.  If the PResident went
>> in with troops without following the law you would be howling all over
>> the place for his head on a platter.
>>
>> MRC
>
>Pentagon devising scenarios for martial law in US
>
>author: Patrick Martin
>9 August 2005
>
>According to a report published Monday by the Washington Post, the Pentagon
>has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental
>United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification
>for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.
>
>The front-page article cites sources working at the headquarters of the
>military's Northern Command (Northcom), located in Colorado Springs,
>Colorado. The plans themselves are classified, but "officers who drafted the
>plans" gave details to Post reporter Bradley Graham, who was recently given
>a tour of Northcom headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base. The article thus
>appears to be a deliberate leak conducted for the purpose of accustoming the
>American population to the prospect of military rule.
>
>(snip)
>
>Military lawyers have studied the legal implications of such deployments,
>which risk coming into conflict with a longstanding congressional
>prohibition on the use of the military for domestic policing, known as posse
>comitatus. Involving the National Guard, which is exempt from posse
>comitatus, could be one solution, Admiral Keating told the Post. "He cited a
>potential situation in which Guard units might begin rounding up people
>while regular forces could not," Graham wrote.
>
>Graham adds: "when it comes to ground forces possibly taking a lead role in
>homeland operations, senior Northcom officers remain reluctant to discuss
>specifics. Keating {Admiral Timothy J. Keating, head of Northcom} said such
>situations, if they arise, probably would be temporary, with lead
>responsibility passing back to civilian authorities."
>
>This is what Chertoff effectively is now going
>to be doing with our law enforcement: to allow for the
>militarization of law enforcement through the
>overturning of Posse Comitatus, but to insure that the
>military doesn't control it, and that it remains under
>political control within the Cabal so it can be used
>for political purposes.
>

  And don't forget the plan to arrest dissidents.
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