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"ed rhodes" <edrhodes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > Ed Rhodes <edward.j.rhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > I'm not going to respond point-by-point because this contest has been
played
> > > out millions of times on talk radio, the TV, and groups like this.
Also,
> > > point-by-point gets tiring after a while.  The main thrust of my
argument
> > > that got lost amidst all the details is that "conservative mindset"
and
> > > "liberal mindset" are irrelevant.  What's right is right and what's
wrong is
> > > wrong (no pun intended).
> >
> > It's like a litmus test.
> >
> > And it always works like this
> > Conservatives are always right,and liberals are consistently wrong.
> >
> > The world wouldn't be in this mess if not for 8 years of liberal rule.
> >
> > Clinton the liberal screwed everything up.
> >
> > And now George Bush has to fix all those things,and has to put up with
> > liberals getting constantly underfoot.
>
> So everything that the conservative mindset saw as "good and right"
> for the past 200+ years; British rule, slavery, labor exploitation,
> [child] exploitation, anti-voting laws, Jim Crow laws, all things that
> liberal groups fought against were actually right?

To say that the liberalism todasy equates with the mindset of the founding
fathers is like saying nite equal day and day equal nite.
Todays leftists(liberals)are opposed to the basic ideals of the founding
fathers. The founders dispised central governments governments ruled by
Kings(dictators). They therefore set up a union of states with most of the
power going to the states(the government closest to the people), limiting
the powers of the federal government.
Todays liberals however see the federal government as a central power
charged with overseeing the cradle to the grave wefare of the people.
Liberals also see the federal government as the final arbitor of what they
call social questions. The government through the use of taxes and other
means redistributes the wealth of the nation and they alone will determine
who shall have what.
The liberal founders of this nation had nothing in common with the
contemporary liberals of to day.
The liberals who freed the slaves were Republican liberals who fought the
civil war with the democrats (conservatives of that day)
The solid democrtic south was a force to be reckoned with for the next 75 to
100 years.
What I am saying to you is that while the meanings of words (labels)do not
change. The attitudes of the people who these labelss are applied to do.
It might be said that yesterdays conservative might be todays liberal and
vice versa each is the product of the time he lives in .