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Re: Not For KKKon$ervatives

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From: ed rhodes
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:16
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jdgraeme@my-deja.com (John Graeme) wrote in message news:<787f8b2d.0303091455.193ffd3c@posting.google.com>...
> edrhodes@hotmail.com (ed rhodes) wrote in message news:<b42fddaf.0303072121.775a2803@posting.google.com>...
> > So everything that the conservative mindset saw as "good and right"
> > for the past 200+ years; British rule, slavery, labor exploitation,
> > [child] exploitation, anti-voting laws, Jim Crow laws, all things that
> > liberal groups fought against were actually right?
> 
> 
> That's using definitions of liberal and conservative that do not
> accord with the way the terms are used politically.  It's saying that
> conservatives are those that oppose change, and liberals those that
> promote change.  But that obviously is not so in the political sense: 
> It's conservatives, for example, who now want to change the laws that
> legalized abortion.

Yes, they want to "return" the situation to the way it was before.
Sounds like "resisting change" to me.

  The whole notion of confusing the everyday
> meaning with the political meanings is silly.  The position called
> "liberal" nowadays is totally unlike the 19th century "liberal"
> position, which was more like what is now called libertarian--at least
> in the U.S.  Oddly enough, in some other countries the term liberal
> still means what we would call libertarian.

The conservatives of the past fought change... the conservatives of
today [still] fight change and fight to recind change in those places
where they've lost! I don't see a major difference!
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From: edrhodes@hotmail.com (ed rhodes)
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Subject: Re: Not For KKKon$ervatives
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