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Article #1835Re: Not For KKKon$ervatives
From: ed rhodes
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:16
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:16
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jdgraeme@my-deja.com (John Graeme) wrote in message news:<787f8b2d.0303091455.193ffd3c@posting.google.com>... > edrhodes@hotmail.com (ed rhodes) wrote in message news:<b42fddaf.0303072121.775a2803@posting.google.com>... > > So everything that the conservative mindset saw as "good and right" > > for the past 200+ years; British rule, slavery, labor exploitation, > > [child] exploitation, anti-voting laws, Jim Crow laws, all things that > > liberal groups fought against were actually right? > > > That's using definitions of liberal and conservative that do not > accord with the way the terms are used politically. It's saying that > conservatives are those that oppose change, and liberals those that > promote change. But that obviously is not so in the political sense: > It's conservatives, for example, who now want to change the laws that > legalized abortion. Yes, they want to "return" the situation to the way it was before. Sounds like "resisting change" to me. The whole notion of confusing the everyday > meaning with the political meanings is silly. The position called > "liberal" nowadays is totally unlike the 19th century "liberal" > position, which was more like what is now called libertarian--at least > in the U.S. Oddly enough, in some other countries the term liberal > still means what we would call libertarian. The conservatives of the past fought change... the conservatives of today [still] fight change and fight to recind change in those places where they've lost! I don't see a major difference!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: fe6ac,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe6ac,public X-Google-Thread: 10675b,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10675b,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-10 05:16:23 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: edrhodes@hotmail.com (ed rhodes) Newsgroups: nyc.general,dc.general,ca.general,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Not For KKKon$ervatives Date: 10 Mar 2003 05:16:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <b42fddaf.0303100516.376a0403@posting.google.com> References: <3E5A49F7.BF00F177@yahoo.com> <DHx6a.69020$zF6.4800531@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <b3elv5$m7e$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <eeX6a.8190$8f7.1488@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <b3m848$c6o$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <HjJ7a.14666$8f7.2353@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <b41lou$hi9$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <5773014d.0303060116.39bdf61c@posting.google.com> <b42fddaf.0303072121.775a2803@posting.google.com> <787f8b2d.0303091455.193ffd3c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.223.48.235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047302183 336 127.0.0.1 (10 Mar 2003 13:16:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Mar 2003 13:16:23 GMT