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Article #1834Re: Not For KKKon$ervatives
From: John Graeme
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 22:55
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 22:55
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edrhodes@hotmail.com (ed rhodes) wrote in message news:<b42fddaf.0303072121.775a2803@posting.google.com>... > joan-of-slack@phantomemail.com (joanie) wrote in message news:<5773014d.0303060116.39bdf61c@posting.google.com>... > > "istartedi" <comments@vrml3d.com> wrote in message news:<b41lou$hi9$1@bob.news.rcn.net>... > > > Ed Rhodes <edward.j.rhodes@verizon.net> wrote in message > > > news:HjJ7a.14666$8f7.2353@nwrdny02.gnilink.net... > > > > > > I'm not going to respond point-by-point because this contest has been played > > > out millions of times on talk radio, the TV, and groups like this. Also, > > > point-by-point gets tiring after a while. The main thrust of my argument > > > that got lost amidst all the details is that "conservative mindset" and > > > "liberal mindset" are irrelevant. What's right is right and what's wrong is > > > wrong (no pun intended). > > > > It's like a litmus test. > > > > And it always works like this > > Conservatives are always right,and liberals are consistently wrong. > > > > The world wouldn't be in this mess if not for 8 years of liberal rule. > > > > Clinton the liberal screwed everything up. > > > > And now George Bush has to fix all those things,and has to put up with > > liberals getting constantly underfoot. > > So everything that the conservative mindset saw as "good and right" > for the past 200+ years; British rule, slavery, labor exploitation, > [child] exploitation, anti-voting laws, Jim Crow laws, all things that > liberal groups fought against were actually right? That's using definitions of liberal and conservative that do not accord with the way the terms are used politically. It's saying that conservatives are those that oppose change, and liberals those that promote change. But that obviously is not so in the political sense: It's conservatives, for example, who now want to change the laws that legalized abortion. The whole notion of confusing the everyday meaning with the political meanings is silly. The position called "liberal" nowadays is totally unlike the 19th century "liberal" position, which was more like what is now called libertarian--at least in the U.S. Oddly enough, in some other countries the term liberal still means what we would call libertarian.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fe6ac,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe6ac,public X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 10675b,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10675b,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,e9005233215f2c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-09 14:55:08 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: jdgraeme@my-deja.com (John Graeme) Newsgroups: nyc.general,dc.general,ca.general,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Not For KKKon$ervatives Date: 9 Mar 2003 14:55:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 42 Message-ID: <787f8b2d.0303091455.193ffd3c@posting.google.com> References: <3E5A49F7.BF00F177@yahoo.com> <DHx6a.69020$zF6.4800531@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <b3elv5$m7e$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <eeX6a.8190$8f7.1488@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <b3m848$c6o$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <HjJ7a.14666$8f7.2353@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <b41lou$hi9$1@bob.news.rcn.net> <5773014d.0303060116.39bdf61c@posting.google.com> <b42fddaf.0303072121.775a2803@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.122.254.30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047250508 30284 127.0.0.1 (9 Mar 2003 22:55:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Mar 2003 22:55:08 GMT