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Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory

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From: Kurtz
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 04:52
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"Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message
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> <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> news:432270c5$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> >
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> > > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
> > > news:43210d1d$0$10630$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org...
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Chris wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>"Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message
> > >>>news:43207e46_4@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>"Obwon" <obllOob@att.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:ucq0i1tvt9hhi01hgbp3sag7koenev86lc@4ax.com...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Please Phil, there were offers of help pouring in from
> > >>>>>all over the world.  Bush kept them out by refusing
> > >>>>>aid.
> > >>
> > >>You are wrong, Foriegn aid is being accepted.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>>There was plenty of food and water in NO, it was
> > >>>>>in the stores that had been abandoned.  Obviously there
> > >>>>>was a plan...   To see to it that as many people would
> > >>>>>die as could be killed by benevolent neglect.  Everyone
> > >>>>>was working hard to keep aid,  food and water from
> > >>>>>coming in.  Or do you somehow believe that it takes
> > >>>>>three days to drive trucks from Texas and Fla to NO?
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>The Govenor of the state of Louisiana blocked food and supplies from
> > >>reaching people trapped at the New Orleans Convention Center and the
> > >>Louisiana Superdome.  Those were supplies had locally.
> > >>
> > >>Now as to getting trucks in from Texas and Fla, the roads were not
> > >>passable.  It takes to to map and safe route for convoys to travel.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>Yeah, it is funny how kids could steal school busses to get people
out
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > >>>>the government couldn't get military trucks in for three
> days.....those
> > >>>
> > >>>must
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>be some damn powerful busses. Oops, I ruined another one of the bush
> > >>>>faithfuls arguments...damn me all to hell.
> > >>>
> > >>Sorry to bust your bubble, but the mayor of New Orleans had hundreds
of
> > >>buses available to evacuate people on.  Houston;s Metro offered to
send
> > >>every available bus to N.O. to help in the evacuation of the city but
> > >>were turned down by the mayor.
> > >>
> > >>As for the kid who stole a bus, the question is where was he when he
> > >>found the bus and where were the people he picked up located?  Could
it
> > >>be he originated from an area not as flooded ans the rest of the city?
> > >>How long did it take him ot get out?  How many times did he have to
> > >>change route?  YOu know it is easy for someone who lives in the city
to
> > >>find route out.  For those who do not it is not easy to get into a
> > >>flooded city not knowing which streets are passable and which are not.
> > >>It takes time to map a route that is safe and passable.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>MRC
> > >
> > >
> > > So you are saying there is no one from NO in the military who knows
> there
> > > way around the city? And have you heard of this new thing called GPS
and
> > > satellite imaging? You could find your way around downtown Baghdad at
> night
> > > in a snowstorm...so don't tell me they couldn't fine their way around
NO
> in
> > > the daytime....
> >
> >
> > No, I am not saying that but the majority of the Guard units brought in
> > did not know the city.  This is not star trek.  Gizmos are nice but a
> > GPS can not tell you what is passible or not.  Not all guard units have
> > the latest GPS systems.  Satilite imaging is not something that
> > individual units have nor is something the Guard units are equiped with.
> >   Further more Saltilite imaging does not tell you what is passiable
> > (i.e debris or water depth).  When disaster strikes, GPS and Satelite
> > imaging  can be worthless wheter you are in Bagdad or New Orleans.
> >
> > MRC
>
> You don't need the latest GPS....hell the one in my truck could have
gotten
> me through there and it is a retail version. And sattelite imaging can
tell
> you quite a bit about the waters depth...like if all you can see of a
hosue
> is it's roof, then the water is too deep....but if you can see the hubcaps
> on a Hyundai then it is probably okay to go in there with your $120,000
> Hummer....get real and think before you respond...

Or FEMA could have bought a few maps at the Texaco station with their
 $250,000.00 limit creditcards....Naw... too smart.
>
>
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