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Article #808Re: Mission Accomplished! Bush Declares Evacuation Victory
From: Kurtz
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 04:52
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 04:52
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"Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message news:4323a7e1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > news:432270c5$0$10628$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > > > > > > Chris wrote: > > > <wrcowan1@hal-pc.org> wrote in message > > > news:43210d1d$0$10630$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org... > > > > > >> > > >>Chris wrote: > > >> > > >>>"Chris" <vscooter@nospam.copper.net> wrote in message > > >>>news:43207e46_4@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>"Obwon" <obllOob@att.net> wrote in message > > >>>>news:ucq0i1tvt9hhi01hgbp3sag7koenev86lc@4ax.com... > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>Please Phil, there were offers of help pouring in from > > >>>>>all over the world. Bush kept them out by refusing > > >>>>>aid. > > >> > > >>You are wrong, Foriegn aid is being accepted. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>>There was plenty of food and water in NO, it was > > >>>>>in the stores that had been abandoned. Obviously there > > >>>>>was a plan... To see to it that as many people would > > >>>>>die as could be killed by benevolent neglect. Everyone > > >>>>>was working hard to keep aid, food and water from > > >>>>>coming in. Or do you somehow believe that it takes > > >>>>>three days to drive trucks from Texas and Fla to NO? > > >>>>> > > >> > > >>The Govenor of the state of Louisiana blocked food and supplies from > > >>reaching people trapped at the New Orleans Convention Center and the > > >>Louisiana Superdome. Those were supplies had locally. > > >> > > >>Now as to getting trucks in from Texas and Fla, the roads were not > > >>passable. It takes to to map and safe route for convoys to travel. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>Yeah, it is funny how kids could steal school busses to get people out > > > > > > but > > > > > >>>>the government couldn't get military trucks in for three > days.....those > > >>> > > >>>must > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>be some damn powerful busses. Oops, I ruined another one of the bush > > >>>>faithfuls arguments...damn me all to hell. > > >>> > > >>Sorry to bust your bubble, but the mayor of New Orleans had hundreds of > > >>buses available to evacuate people on. Houston;s Metro offered to send > > >>every available bus to N.O. to help in the evacuation of the city but > > >>were turned down by the mayor. > > >> > > >>As for the kid who stole a bus, the question is where was he when he > > >>found the bus and where were the people he picked up located? Could it > > >>be he originated from an area not as flooded ans the rest of the city? > > >>How long did it take him ot get out? How many times did he have to > > >>change route? YOu know it is easy for someone who lives in the city to > > >>find route out. For those who do not it is not easy to get into a > > >>flooded city not knowing which streets are passable and which are not. > > >>It takes time to map a route that is safe and passable. > > >> > > >> > > >>MRC > > > > > > > > > So you are saying there is no one from NO in the military who knows > there > > > way around the city? And have you heard of this new thing called GPS and > > > satellite imaging? You could find your way around downtown Baghdad at > night > > > in a snowstorm...so don't tell me they couldn't fine their way around NO > in > > > the daytime.... > > > > > > No, I am not saying that but the majority of the Guard units brought in > > did not know the city. This is not star trek. Gizmos are nice but a > > GPS can not tell you what is passible or not. Not all guard units have > > the latest GPS systems. Satilite imaging is not something that > > individual units have nor is something the Guard units are equiped with. > > Further more Saltilite imaging does not tell you what is passiable > > (i.e debris or water depth). When disaster strikes, GPS and Satelite > > imaging can be worthless wheter you are in Bagdad or New Orleans. > > > > MRC > > You don't need the latest GPS....hell the one in my truck could have gotten > me through there and it is a retail version. And sattelite imaging can tell > you quite a bit about the waters depth...like if all you can see of a hosue > is it's roof, then the water is too deep....but if you can see the hubcaps > on a Hyundai then it is probably okay to go in there with your $120,000 > Hummer....get real and think before you respond... Or FEMA could have bought a few maps at the Texaco station with their $250,000.00 limit creditcards....Naw... too smart. > >
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